Why Mixers Love Mixing on NS10's 

All speakers with crossovers have phasing issues

I've got the sn10s, I find them quite similar but not the same. They still give you what your looking for from them :)

i think they work really well for someone (like me lol) who may have been focusing too much on HI's n LOWs... they are also SOOOOOO much better for getting the low mids right. if you're doing well now... i bet you'd be even better with the ns10's... or the headphone/sennheiser/sonicworks thing i have going on.

Use a more full range speaker, & then adjust your low end, after setting your mid-range correct on NS-10's. I won't mix without my NS-10's ! Nice Vid HMS, you're right !

All the musicality and cohesiveness is still in the midrange. The human ear is the most sensitive to that frequency range. I get what you're saying but even hip-hop engineers partly mix on NS 10s and for that exact reason.

you can work the bass line on them ?

In my opinion the best way is following: For producing just take your favorite Hifi System (with or without Sub, whatever you like and sounds pleasant to your ears). For critical and final mixing decisions you use something like the Yamahas or Neumanns (without sub). And for finally checking your bass you can use good headphones and back and forth checking between different systems (and the key here is referencing - just put on a track you want to compare your bass with and whatever system you play it on, the bass should match)

and for the bass under 100Hz ? I work on dance songs and maybe I will go with ns10 ......

if youre still looking, i have a pair im ready to let go of. hit my email at hendersonjasonlee@gmail.com with an offer or questions if interested

Nullll1111 did you get them?

@Wade Williams Yes. They're in front of me right now.

Benevolent Mutation Studios Kali LP6 all day! I’ve learned my Kali’s and I don’t need anything else!

Benevolent Mutation Studios is the hiss bad?

@@wadewilliams1892 nah not bad at all, I get a little bit from nearby devices but I can only notice if I get really close to the tweeter

dont go with HS5 i tried them. It's really not the sound of ns10 !! the ns10 have a bump around 2,5kHz .... the HS5 has a big bump around 1kHz. It's really not the same sound .......

Because of everybody's bitches about the NS-10's.....No low end !!! They don't lie !

That's an expensive way my friend burning cd's for reference,but i guess its a good test because cd's dont lie 👍

super interesting, would love to know if anyone has tried this

Part of the ns10s' magic is the transient response. A filter on the master can help you focus in on the mids the way and ns10 would, but the closed back design of the ns10s is part of what makes them so "honest" and why you have to work to make things sound good on them. They really lack depth and that forces you to make good decisions. Consider grabbing an avantone mix cube for a similar result. The full range speaker design is intended to help with translation on small speaker systems

@@luc.musicproducer right on

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, my goodness!!!!

Look for a pair NS615 the price is not that hyped like the NS10's but they are prety rare to find. They are the same speakers. Only the 615 was made to stand vertical tweeter wise 👍

Just because more systems are better quality now, doesn't change the fact that the majority of musical information, and the area our ears are most sensitive to, is the midrange.

No because NS-10s aren't flat.

I have a yamaha ps2500s. Was only a few hundred bucks used. Don't get caught up in the nonsense that you need at fancy power amp

Hardcore Music Studio you should totally do a follow on video this this showing how you have them set up... any in line fuses?

I’ve heard of a lot of studios using any 1990’s home stereo. Sounds weird but that’s what I heard.

the whole point of them is that they dont have any sub frequencies - make syou make sure there will be enough bass on the average crappy home speaker which wont have any sub either

he uses the headphone for check the booty end

@@AJbassist The booty end LOOOL

It does the opposite, it makes you figure out where the bottom is most powerful and useful so those elements still translate on limited playback systems like a phone speaker. The car test should be replaced by the phone test as far as I'm concerned. If it's all there off the phone speaker it should play back on anything pretty well

Hmm... maybe it's more like looking at the road ahead instead of watching a screen with a 360 degree view around the car

@@hardcoremusicstudio At least that leaves you the option to see what's going on in the neighboring lane 😊 Anyways, I can agree that it's crucial to know the strengths and limitations of your monitoring system

No it's not.... it's like saying "I have practiced driving looking through a little hole so I know how to design a car for people that can only see through a tiny hole". Also these speaker are a accident at this translation... they were never meant for this which means the company made speakers that would emulate all the bad things any speaker would do if a mix wasn't right. What using a high end speaker does would be like saying "I drive a car that drives for me so I'm the worlds best driver". Although I couldn't use just these myself, although I'm not doing basic mixes and masters. These are are for the "mixing" stage not the creation or editing stage. You have to get those stages right before mixing, you'll need more detail to do this. The mixing stage is about translation and then mastering is about making it as loud as you can without losing any dynamics or quality, again so it translates. Expensive high watt systems don't need music to be mastered, there a volume knob there for that. These are about a need in the industry, not about being something that blows minds. You'll need something detailed so you can hear the small sounds you don't want to clean up the mix, but you'll need something like this. These are there only as a "worst case" scenario monitor. If your mix isn't good then it won't sound good. Where as other speakers can make bad mixes sound good. Now, if you play your music on your own stuff then it is fine... But mixing and mastering is about getting your sound to be heard properly everywhere. Other wise you don't need mixing and mastering, although if you're making music I would assume you're trying to make money which means broadening your client base to anyone. With these speakers, if the mix is bad... you'll be able to listen to them for about 10 minuets before you get ear fatigue.... if it's good then you should last hours. Mix cubes are designed in this same way... but should never be main monitors. Their there to show if your mix is expecting to much from all the speakers. Plus again... "in the mix stage"... If someone has to edit in the mix stage then for that moment they are editing not mixing. So really the statement is: "IT IS LIKE DRIVING A REALLY BAD CAR THAT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO DRIVE WELL AND THEN WHEN YOU DRIVE A WELL DESIGNED CAR YOU'LL DRIVE IT LIKE A PRO". Although, more than anything, it's about what you're used to... but then if you could "play" a driving technique you'll want to test it on bad cars before you let someone "play" your driving technique. Just saying

its more like saying most people can only see through a tiny hole so I'm going to make sure that there are enough interesting things happening within that tiny hole. Sure - make sure theres plenty for those with a wider view too... or something

@Moonbase Records how do you know? Have a link?

They are vintage NS-10M's, I have a pair just like them !

That was what i was thinking

You're killing all your low end and air. You should treat the sub range as an extension to low mids instead of getting rid of it completely

@@mdhssounds I still mix my sub to the low mids but I have noticed a almost immediately better translation when mixing this way. The best part is its literally a button click away from full range👍

@@mdhssounds also I mix almost predominately hip hop and bass heavy music so this is just something I do to check what laptops and and cell phones are hearing.

The Avantone Pro CLA10 Active Studio Monitors, They are powered NS10's :)

I agree with what you're saying, check out my other video on "Why the Car Test Works." However I have to say that after years mixing on one pair of monitors in the same space, then getting NS10's, my mixes translated better almost instantly. I also find that NS10's sound the same in any room I've been in, which always provides a good reference when working in other studios.

@@hardcoremusicstudio Hey man ! Everyone is entitled to their opinions, I was just stating the facts.

Yet every well mixed record sounds fantastic on the NS10s. They are truthful to the sound, so when something sounds bad on them it's really not monitor's fault.

I mix with Focal Alphas in a treated studio, in the past I mixed with headphones and I never felt my mixes bad or weak on the car.. I don't really get why people pay so much attention to this topic. If you're good and you are used to your speakers and environment, I don't think there's any problem

One of my tutors who built multiple BBC studios in the uk, said that they are the *expletive* reference! They’re to check what a mix will sound like on the average home sound system!

..bullshit. ns10 have some features other speakers dont have like super fast bass transients due to closed box desing (time stamping on bass reflex monitor could be double or more....), they have very low total harmonic distortion, great stereo image and mid range super clarity. they are a godsent, a truly magical tool...there are few other alternatives to ns10, like unity audio stuff or rasch audio... they are not pleasant to listening, they are a tool like a medical monitor, or a measurement mic, like or not that's not the point, get one two or three pair of those.

@@kyma1999x I agree, I mix with NS-10's at a very low volume in mono, then compare with the Far field Tannoy's. Always sounds great. make them sound good & it will sound good anywhere. ;)