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In today’s video, we run through which three European countries have recognised Palestine. Also, we discuss Sunak’s sudden announcement of a UK election; Macron visits New Caledonia; and China launches military drills around Taiwan.
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00:00 Intro
00:22 Which EU Countries Have Recognised Palestine?
03:04 Sunak Announces July Election
04:29 Macron Visits New Caledonia
05:44 China Launches Military Drills Around Taiwan
06:49 TLDR Good News
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@mix3k818
@mix3k818 24 дня назад
Israel's diplomacy just keeps making more and more enemies for no good reason. Same happened in Poland: we voted for Palestine to be a full member of the UN and Israel's ambassador in Poland threw a fit in response.
@davidboi4025
@davidboi4025 24 дня назад
How? Hanas decided it wanted to feel the steam roller you expect the sun to blow up in small blasts? its war...
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 24 дня назад
Or 6 months ago when an Israeli politician cried to "send them all(Palestinians) to Ireland"
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 24 дня назад
​@@davidboi4025you are sick in the head 🧠 🪱
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 24 дня назад
Poland: look I am on your side and hate Islamic fundamentalist, but we have to admit Palestine statehood. Irasel: you are a traitor and would let jews to the Nazis!!
@donovanlocust1106
@donovanlocust1106 24 дня назад
​@@toyotaprius79as if the Irish wouldn't love it
@akend4426
@akend4426 24 дня назад
At this point, I’m convinced that Netanyahu is willing to do anything to stay in power, regardless of how much it damages Israel’s international reputation in the process.
@tauceti8060
@tauceti8060 24 дня назад
Power is like an addictive drug,once yout taste it its hard to let go.
@ad_astra468
@ad_astra468 24 дня назад
That’s why the two other members of national unity cabinet have threatened to resign if he doesn’t provide a “day after” plan for Gaza by June 8th.
@iambicpentakill971
@iambicpentakill971 24 дня назад
It's not all on him though, some of Israel's other politicians are just as monstrous and should be held accountable. Israel isn't like Russia where you get defenestrated if you speak up
@rene280195
@rene280195 24 дня назад
True, that's a reality that even the isreali admit, that doesn't change that this is a political move tho, nor a humanitarian one.
@elvangulley3210
@elvangulley3210 24 дня назад
Bull crap its real easy for you Europeans who are thousands of miles away to tell Israel how it can fight a war when you dont have to deal with hamas ​@@rene280195
@hoolio5659
@hoolio5659 24 дня назад
Im usually of the opinion that announcements like this doesn’t actually change much. But it does signal to other countries shifting perceptions and ways of approaching Palestine within these countries, which is why they are important to notice.
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 24 дня назад
Yeah given the situation, it little late for that declaration. But better late then never I guess
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 24 дня назад
@@starmaker75 Leo Varadkar has Been saying Ireland would recognize but only do as whole of EU rather than one nation but his successor is little more nationalist in his heart and decide go ahead without need EU to do it
@dimaignatiev6370
@dimaignatiev6370 24 дня назад
Well actually, you can say Palestine is independent.Except for the fact that the Israeli army is keeping the Order for them...And the fact that Israel surpresses most of the extreme Jihadi factions...So yeah...Independence!
@daveogfans413
@daveogfans413 24 дня назад
Is this a bit account? Lmao
@4thzone697
@4thzone697 24 дня назад
​@dimaignatiev6370 lol, israel has a history of suppressing secular independance movements in palestine and promoting/supporting jihadist movements. Right-wing Israeli governments need a foil to maintain occupation and expansion of settlements. Lets also not forget the most pro-peace israeli president was assassinated with wide support and edorsment by society and currrent leaders.
@bababababababa6124
@bababababababa6124 24 дня назад
Over 140 countries globally recognise Palestine, why is Netanyahu getting mad as if this is a new thing? 😂
@kevburke
@kevburke 24 дня назад
Because the three counties are American allies and, in the case of Ireland, Biden's ancestral home.
@bababababababa6124
@bababababababa6124 24 дня назад
@@kevburkegood, and more will follow in the coming months
@ZenioDovgj
@ZenioDovgj 24 дня назад
Too bad Palestine doesn't recognize itself.
@divxxx
@divxxx 24 дня назад
because he likes a two-state solution where both states are Israel
@richardgreenwood7956
@richardgreenwood7956 24 дня назад
Because it’s after they started 5th terrorist war, while most of Palestinians still would vote in radical Islamist that wants violence. Why not recognise ISIS then?
@santividal9387
@santividal9387 24 дня назад
The announcement of Rishi calling for the general election in July was the most memeble thing I've seen in my life. Not only it started raining, but someone blasted out 'Things can only get better' in a speaker nearby. The overall feeling of failure has to be the worst ever beginning of a political campaign in years.
@user-sq5sl4uz3c
@user-sq5sl4uz3c 23 дня назад
This is exhausting as an American that is pro Palestine and absolutely despises Netanyahu because I have no good options in the election.
@GobbiExists
@GobbiExists 20 дней назад
maybe there could be a Muslim willing to be president that you could write-in a vote for? or vote for the Greens if available in your state as they are pro-peace in general? or you could just abstain if you don’t want your voice to be heard
@jacobnair6707
@jacobnair6707 19 дней назад
@@GobbiExistsyeah just abstain and let trump win 🤦‍♂️
@ofer3000
@ofer3000 19 дней назад
Womp womp
@lynxfresh5214
@lynxfresh5214 19 дней назад
Shockingly an electoral system that feasibly only has two parties (that originally were one) isn't democratic at all.
@GD-jc3wx
@GD-jc3wx 18 дней назад
LOL Israel took control over the Philadelphi Corridor today. Now there are even less chances for a Palestinian state to ever be possible. The international community can do as they please, the facts speak louder than their tantrums. Palestine is not independent.
@itshample3010
@itshample3010 24 дня назад
Nailed the pronunciation of Taoíseach. Refreshing to witness from a British based news organization. Props
@fionanosullivan6522
@fionanosullivan6522 24 дня назад
It's great to see. I shudder everytime British media just plough ahead with "Irish Prime Minister" 🤮
@herbivorethecarnivore8447
@herbivorethecarnivore8447 24 дня назад
@@fionanosullivan6522 You "shudder"? Have a bit more nuance. It's not an easy word to pronounce, just as I wouldn't expect a Chinese person to pronounce "ostentatious" perfectly on their first try. It's a hard word to pronounce with sounds that aren't native to their language. Don't be so judgemental.
@neondemon5137
@neondemon5137 24 дня назад
Sorry, most people don't speak faery.
@itshample3010
@itshample3010 24 дня назад
I see the assblasted section of the Brits have arrived lol
@itshample3010
@itshample3010 24 дня назад
@@neondemon5137 Yeah, we know you don't. You speak Pashtun lmao
@herbert3177
@herbert3177 23 дня назад
oh no, israel is diplomatically isolating itself in response, what are we going to do
@nhecos2998
@nhecos2998 24 дня назад
Most nations officially support a two states solution, so the recognition of Palestine statehood is something that is on the roadmap for these countries. Ireland, Spain & Norway simply chose to act on it now because it's a powerful symbolic gesture at a time when it's very obvious that Israel actions in Gaza are completely disproportionate to its right to self-defense..
@hoteny
@hoteny 24 дня назад
Waiting for an abomination’s response against your comment…
@rene280195
@rene280195 24 дня назад
Another way to see it is: Hamas has gain the support of Spain president and other Spain mimisters, and said president is trying to make a smoke screen around his wife corription investigation through a diplomatic action, so Israel is mad with this political movemenr because: 1) some of the isreali ministers are monster and asshole 2) is like a treat to Hamas, they started this particular conflict and now they have a political Ally within the EU, Pedro Sánchez.
@elvangulley3210
@elvangulley3210 24 дня назад
No they aren't it's just war
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 24 дня назад
​​@@elvangulley3210 Your lies are dead in the water. How many international courts do you need chasing after your country before you wake up?
@elvangulley3210
@elvangulley3210 24 дня назад
@@RazorMouth the same court that says nothing of what going on in Africa
@keithheaven176
@keithheaven176 24 дня назад
Getting more than a little tired of the media over emphasising the vote winning capability of Nigel Farage. Remember that he has stood for election to the UK parliament 7 times and failed every time. Maybe he will help Trump to similar success.
@stockie_uk
@stockie_uk 24 дня назад
He's seen as the lead voice of people to the right of the Conservatives and gets given air time in the media by people who want to shift UK political discourse rightwards. Remember that a lot of the UK medias journalists/reporters see the Conservatives as the default middle ground as they are in the same political bubble, are friends with and went to the same schools/universities as them.
@HeavyMetalMouse
@HeavyMetalMouse 24 дня назад
I think it's less about 'ability to win' and more about 'ability to take votes away from people on the same end of the political spectrum'. Nobody is really expecting him to 'win', but the Tories are likely very glad that he isn't running for that reason alone - the UK has a very different culture around voting for non-primary parties even in elections where it is strategically disadvantageous, compared to, say, the US.
@zackgravity7284
@zackgravity7284 24 дня назад
@@HeavyMetalMouse both countries use shitty FPTP if u didnt know y
@geofflepper3207
@geofflepper3207 23 дня назад
Canada has the far right, xenophobic, somewhat Trumpian "People's Party of Canada" led by a disgruntled politician who didn't think that the Conservatives' shift to the right was far right enough. Although it got more votes in 2021 hitting about 6% of voters by getting almost all the votes of Canadians who are full bore anti-vaxers the People's Party didn't win a single seat in the country for the second election in a row. I'm not sure if it cost Conservatives any seats in either 2019 or 2021. Now that vaccine mandates are long gone I suspect that the People's Party will in the next election fall back to 2% of voters where it was in 2019 and likely will fall into complete irrelevance after that, especially as the Conservatives have moved even further right.
@stemba16
@stemba16 24 дня назад
There is a big discussion in Czechia, if we recognise Palestine, current government says no, but other people say yes. Complicated thing after the split of Czechoslovakia
@RezzpektMVP
@RezzpektMVP 22 дня назад
No we dont
@dachd
@dachd 21 день назад
Yeah, here in Czechia we overwhelmingly support Israel with extremely small portion of population expressing sympathy with Palestine. Calling it Big, is disingenuous.
@georgesdelatour
@georgesdelatour 24 дня назад
Genuine question with no political agenda. If, say, Ireland, Norway or Spain “recognises” Palestine: 1) What territory does it recognise as constituting the boundaries of that state? 2) Who does it recognise as the de jure (or even de facto) government of that state? Given that the West Bank and Gaza are not physically connected, and have different governments (one of which is arguably not currently in control of its territory), which one does it choose, and why?
@Lo6a4evskiy
@Lo6a4evskiy 24 дня назад
I think you're reading too deep into what's in essence political posturing.
@M-tl4xt
@M-tl4xt 24 дня назад
This is just woke posturing. But de facto they are recognizing Hamas as legitimate. So they are sponsoring terrorism.
@chrisgabele75
@chrisgabele75 24 дня назад
​@@Lo6a4evskiy no, he has a point
@nenasiek
@nenasiek 24 дня назад
My country recognised Palestine years ago and we simply say that the border havent been decided yet. Its done so the 2 state solution will be more likely. Btw this does not mean that we support hamas or any other terrorist group.
@user-uf4rx5ih3v
@user-uf4rx5ih3v 24 дня назад
It doesn't mean anything. No country recognizes Palestinian borders or government. Practically, Israel controls everything but Gaza (although they have now set foothold in the territory). The West Bank and Gaza are ruled by different bodies, but the West Bank is overseen by Israel. Contrast that with Taiwan, which is de facto an independent country but not recognized as such. In the current global order, being recognized as an independent state comes with certain benefits. Palestine cannot take advantage of most of them however, because it's just not independent. Having other countries recognize Palestine is a way for them to show disapproval of Israel. Nothing more, nothing less.
@randomperson-uj4bp
@randomperson-uj4bp 23 дня назад
The recongitions arent really a way of showing who supports Palestine. Czechia supports Israel (over 90%) but they recongize Palestine.
@ofer3000
@ofer3000 19 дней назад
Good to hear that Czechia loves Israel but can you tell me why?
@randomperson-uj4bp
@randomperson-uj4bp 19 дней назад
@@ofer3000 Both were oppressed for a long time, and both had similar situations. As google puts it, Lubomír Zaorálek said that Czech media and society viewed Israel as a trusted friend, a vibrant democracy, and an economic and technological powerhouse, adding that the Czech Republic had one of the lowest levels of anti-Semitism in Europe.
@ofer3000
@ofer3000 19 дней назад
@@randomperson-uj4bp ❤️
@chnadeau1
@chnadeau1 24 дня назад
The license plates in Manitoba read “Friendly Manitoba” for a reason.
@graham1034
@graham1034 24 дня назад
Just a casual 4.5 million kg extra taters
@slopernafti902
@slopernafti902 24 дня назад
What is a "license plate"? Do you mean a number plate?
@BeenchHoopla
@BeenchHoopla 24 дня назад
@@slopernafti902 in Canada we call them license plates ya dig?
@slopernafti902
@slopernafti902 24 дня назад
@@BeenchHoopla Imagine living in Canada lol. Horrible place.
@graham1034
@graham1034 24 дня назад
@slopernafti902 in Canada our plates aren't just a number, they have the province name, a slogan, some provincial imagery, etc. Same thing in the US.
@CarlosD374
@CarlosD374 23 дня назад
Who would think that a two-state solution requires there to be 2 recognised states. Mind blowing...
@frankyyaggabot6222
@frankyyaggabot6222 23 дня назад
The Palestinians probably find it hilarious as they have been offered that 5 times since 1948 and rejected it because they only believe in a one state solution.
@listener8228
@listener8228 23 дня назад
I wish Palestine would just accept full statehood with the 2 state solution
@namedrik5876
@namedrik5876 23 дня назад
​​​​​@@frankyyaggabot6222 The main problem with that was sovereignty, Israel wanted Palestine to have no army, Israel would control the Jordan river border, and would be able to invade or in their words "can freely operate within Palestinian state to rid terrorists", and wanted settlers to stay where they were. And Palestine didn't reject it, but wanted clarifications. Palestine wanted full control of its resources and the ability to have a military, however Yasser Arafat (who had mandate from all Palestinian groups to negotiate) did accept. The "Palestine didn't accept peace" is a lie that Israelis spread.
@HairLessBush
@HairLessBush 23 дня назад
​@@frankyyaggabot6222 according to u that is. Those offers are highly biased and one-sided in favor of iz ra tel. That's why some of them were rejected. (Code word "SOME"not all)
@kristof6472
@kristof6472 23 дня назад
​@@frankyyaggabot6222 absolutely false and misleading. Those "deals" included things like a palestinian state heavily subservient to the Israelis.
@hs7ehfheuezdhji
@hs7ehfheuezdhji 24 дня назад
Add Belgium and Slovenia too
@PeterPeter-pr2hi
@PeterPeter-pr2hi 23 дня назад
It’s interesting that Eastern European states mostly recognize Palestine whereas Western European states mostly don’t, while the public opinion tends to be the opposite, as I see a lot of Western Europeans calling out Israel recently and protesting, whereas Eastern Europeans either don’t seem to care that much, or tend to be more in favour of Israel (I’m not taking any sides here, but the latter is a bit unfortunate, because those who seem to support Israel often do so not because they are informed in the conflict, but due to prejudices against Arabs). Obviously, I know that public opinion can differ a lot, and is probably different in places like Bosnia and Serbia than Hungary and Czechia, and I also know that Eastern European recognition of Palestine often happened thanks to the USSR. But it’s still an interesting development.
@natedcarr6148
@natedcarr6148 23 дня назад
The last bit of news is actually encouraging. It's good to know that there are some who still give generously and selflessly without seeking reward, recompense, or recognition.
@12Metatron
@12Metatron 24 дня назад
They should recognize taiwan too
@The_Soviet_Onion
@The_Soviet_Onion 24 дня назад
Sadly won’t happen
@NoEndForUs
@NoEndForUs 24 дня назад
Taiwan is a complicated case. Why you may ask? Because, it's officially the Republic of China. It includes not only the biggest Island (Taiwan) but other smaller islands. Also, it claims the whole territory under the People's Republic of China. So, you see, it's not Taiwan and China but the Republic of China and the People's Republic of China. You can recognize either one, not both. Both have claims on the same territory. This issue is a little different than the Israel-Palestine issue. This is why most countries recognize PRC because they can recognize only ONE and PRC is more beneficial one to recognize.
@SaceedAbul
@SaceedAbul 24 дня назад
Only if Taiwan recognizes Palestinians
@dimaignatiev6370
@dimaignatiev6370 24 дня назад
@@NoEndForUs Just like in the Palestine case...So they claim...I didn't see any Kuomintang there lately...
@mcboat3467
@mcboat3467 24 дня назад
​@@NoEndForUs the Reichkommasarit of Palestine I mean PA don't claim entire historical palastine as thier own country. Plus settler states are bad and guess who is a settler state in Taiwan (ROC)
@calvinware7957
@calvinware7957 24 дня назад
Sending soldiers is not a difusion of tensions it's an escalation of it
@sizanogreen9900
@sizanogreen9900 24 дня назад
It is "some kind of political solution tho"
@svenrio8521
@svenrio8521 24 дня назад
As opposed to letting them riot forever?
@calvinware7957
@calvinware7957 24 дня назад
@@svenrio8521 I find it extremely unimaginative of you that you can't think of any other solution to get angry people to stop rioting other than force. You could pause the reform to appease them and then meet with them address their concerns and compromise
@calvinware7957
@calvinware7957 24 дня назад
@@sizanogreen9900 "solution" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there
@War4Skills
@War4Skills 23 дня назад
@@calvinware7957unrealistic expectations
@user-ml1rv1jk3w
@user-ml1rv1jk3w 24 дня назад
So Palestine gets recognized but Somaliland is still waiting for anyone to recognize it?
@iihamed711
@iihamed711 23 дня назад
not comparable. Palestine is under an occupation while Somaliland is a breakaway region of Somalia.
@Luredreier
@Luredreier 23 дня назад
Somaliland isn't currently facing genocide and a whole host of other severe issues related to a occupation by Israel... Most countries respect that Somaliland should earn its independence through an agreement with Somalia. Especially with Ethiopian support for Somaliland they have some leverage over Somalia.
@ThoughtfulSheep
@ThoughtfulSheep 23 дня назад
it did face a genocide between 1988 till 1991. that is why somaliland should take over the world​@@Luredreier
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon 23 дня назад
@@iihamed711UN should just impose the first Mandate and get all palestinian arabs to Jordan. Enough of emoty space there
@davidz2690
@davidz2690 23 дня назад
@@Luredreier genocide lmao? Don't be insane. The only thing even remotely related to genocide in this situation was by Hamas on Jews on 7th October 2023. Unlike Hamas, Israel don't target civilians...
@MrEnterainment
@MrEnterainment 22 дня назад
Thank you for using the word 'Taoiseach' and not 'Prime Minster' when referring to Simon Harris. A lot of news outlets (including TLDR in the past) use the term Prime Minster when referring to our Taoiseach.
@dko1905
@dko1905 23 дня назад
Really love the short and sweet positive news piece
@mohammadhazraty2372
@mohammadhazraty2372 23 дня назад
The right to self-determination is in the human rights
@mrtree.1
@mrtree.1 20 дней назад
I think they skipped that part
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 24 дня назад
Ireland I understand because of history, but Spain that pretty rich given spain is have separatism problems.
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 24 дня назад
Funny, Catalonia and Basque also support Palestine as well so they on term with Spain
@ShubhamMishrabro
@ShubhamMishrabro 24 дня назад
Spain doesn't support kosovo
@maxman4948
@maxman4948 24 дня назад
they should receive all refugee
@DiotimaMantinea-qm5yt
@DiotimaMantinea-qm5yt 24 дня назад
Ridiculous comment.
@EclipseZer0
@EclipseZer0 24 дня назад
That has little to do with separatism. Or are you implying Palestine was never meant to be a country like the UN said, and that instead is a separatist region of Israel?
@supernerd1999
@supernerd1999 23 дня назад
China launches military drill around Taiwan, commonly known here in Taiwan as “a Thursday”
@Twinkiepower420
@Twinkiepower420 24 дня назад
I’m curious as to how they coordinated it. Like if Sanchez just thought Harris was already working on it and called him, if their ambassadors planned this, or if it’s a coincidence that turned into coordination. It doesn’t matter, I’m just curious.
@Gante_Gato
@Gante_Gato 24 дня назад
They've been in talks for a while. This was not a surprise or anything, it's a coordinated effort
@oldrabbit8290
@oldrabbit8290 23 дня назад
meanwhile the US also throw a fit, despite its alleged support for the 2 states solution..
@rene280195
@rene280195 24 дня назад
The issue is not the recognizion itself, but the timing and what State of Palestine are they recognizing, which borders and which leaders?
@nopasaran7534
@nopasaran7534 24 дня назад
1967 borders and the Palestinian Authority
@glitch9065
@glitch9065 24 дня назад
@@nopasaran7534 And Jerusalem as the capital, with the squatters out.
@yitzhakspolter9551
@yitzhakspolter9551 24 дня назад
​@@glitch9065 the "squatters" are the Jews?
@notaspeck6104
@notaspeck6104 23 дня назад
The people, so that they can’t be wiped off the map?
@georgeshapiro301
@georgeshapiro301 23 дня назад
That's not the actual issue for Israel. They only care that there is something - anything - hinting at validating the existence of Palestinians and Palestine. It is literally the official policy of the ruling coalition in Israel to deny and undermine both a state and the functioning of what passes for a governing structure (for example, they have, yet again, taken and withheld tax revenue in the occupied territories this week, and threatened further punishment for the recognition.... upon the Palestinians). The problem is that Zionism as it is conceived in Israel is incompatible with reality and justice, and the stated political desires of most of the rest of the world and international law. They believe they cannot and will not ever tolerate a state. On the contrary, the ruling coalition - and a large swatch of the Israeli population, though it is nuanced - want to continue seizing and expelling corralling the millions of Palestinians who are left in the region. There is no room for pretending Israel is reasonable here, that the details and "timing" are the problem. They fundamentally do not accept that Palestinians have the right to exist.
@hjalmarfreidenvall1655
@hjalmarfreidenvall1655 24 дня назад
Neat
@steffplaysmapping1104
@steffplaysmapping1104 23 дня назад
Well... This is a break from previous recognition practice. Norway usually don't recognize countries with unresolved claims over other countries or over disputed land and especially not if it's a country with more than one government. There need to be a solution where a Palestinian state lives in peace and recognition with Israel, but there's a legitimate fear that this will give the signal that antisemitic terror in the name of Islam and anti-zionism are effective. This also comes following the government sending condolences to Iran over the death of president Raisi, a sign of naivety that spits on the victims of Raisi and the Iranian diaspora in Norway. I fear our naivety will make us apathetic towards the axis of evil.
@MWhaleK
@MWhaleK 23 дня назад
I don't know about Norway and Spain, but for Ireland it's about centuries of having been the testing ground for the worst parts of British colonialism combined with a "famine" where the Irish people starved while Ireland was exporting food to Britian because the Irish had been forced onto a diet of pretty much only potatoes.
@KathyMort
@KathyMort 23 дня назад
Norway has always historically been pro Palestine, at least since after 1980s.
@incurableromantic4006
@incurableromantic4006 23 дня назад
Basing middle-east policy on something totally unrelated that happened in the 1840s - is simply childish.
@A190xx
@A190xx 23 дня назад
Sadly, the history is still deliberately mistaught in Ireland, which is why their Taoiseach has taken the side of Hamas which will embolden other terrorists across the world. I hope the following helps and starts a course of checking what readers were taught in school: 1) The Palestine Mandate was not British colonialism. The League of Nations asked Britain to arrange a homeland for the Jews, as Britain was one of the few nations with even a vague possibility of doing so. Two states were created with Arab Muslims given Jordan and Israel to the Jews. 2) There were far more famines in Ireland before 1801, but these could not be blamed on the British as there was still an Irish Government. British brought new technology and industry, which reduced these famines, but did not eradicate them. 3) The independence movement started the disingenuous view that all the landlords were British. They were almostly entirely Irish and the same families as before 1801, but they practised the "British religion" of Protestantism or lived in London, which is common around the world for the wealthy to live near the capital. Even the Scots that were moved there centuries earlier were termed British, as they were not Catholic and represented the ruling class. This was designed to create a common enemy for the working Catholic peasants, albeit the leaders were mostly middle class. Paradoxically, American families who left 300 years ago and have never visited Ireland are considered Irish. 4) Britain was made up of MPs from all 4 nations, but, since 1801, it was not de rigueur to mess with domestic affairs. The British government, Crown and people sent the equivalent of billions of pounds in aid and, eventually, it was Britain that resolved the problem. 5) And what the Irish education system especially ignores is that Britain and Europe were all suffering famines following poor harvests across the Continent. 6) Following independence, there was a significant risk the Irish people would want to rejoin Britain, so the teaching of history was amended with many facts now almost impossible to research online under the tide of falsehoods. It is time to return to the truth and I hope readers will undertake some research, so Britain and Ireland can bury the past. 7) There were definitely heinous acts carried out by the British government or its agents, but these occurred across all 4 nations and undertaken by people from all 4 nations.
@attilakovacs2231
@attilakovacs2231 19 дней назад
Did you ask the Bengali people of India?
@richardides2035
@richardides2035 23 дня назад
Two state is to fragil concept... learn from history... if Czechoslovakia could not make it work how can they? There is no way...
@tannerwilson4843
@tannerwilson4843 24 дня назад
What horrible timing for the elections in July when many people will be on vacation. Sunak knows his only shot to have turnout numbers become extremely low when many will be out of town on vacation and not worrying about politics.
@marcb08
@marcb08 21 день назад
The same happened last year in Spain, when Sánchez called for early elections the 23rd of July. The right accused him of wanting a low turn out, so that the abstention rate could favor PSOE, but actually the turn out increased a little bit (66.5%, compared to 65% in 2019).
@teelo12000
@teelo12000 24 дня назад
The Fourth of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the UK declared in one voice: We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our Election Day!
@silliestsususagest3276
@silliestsususagest3276 23 дня назад
I think you're vastly overstating how important the general election is, I mean it's just an exercise in democracy which happens around every 5 years or so. But yes replacing blue with red.
@spacemarine3482
@spacemarine3482 21 день назад
Starmer is going to be exactly the same as the tories don't get your hopes up
@ahmetkarl1229
@ahmetkarl1229 24 дня назад
Israel is all like "yea we support 2 state solution, see we even retreated from Gaza a few decades ago", and is triggered after someone recognizes Palestine.
@mr.netflix9149
@mr.netflix9149 24 дня назад
They support the two state solution, no one said the second state has to be Palestine (Polish Gaza incoming).
@erellevi4400
@erellevi4400 24 дня назад
You kow there are different sides in israel, left wing and right wing like everywhere else, the current goverment is an extremist right wing who dont want 2 states, its not speical to have that sincw its like that everyone yet you need to make one side the entire population of israel
@Twinkiepower420
@Twinkiepower420 24 дня назад
@@erellevi4400I mean, stats and polls show most Israelis don’t support a two state solution. So if Bibi’s an extremist, most Israelis aren’t that far off
@giwrgossv6928
@giwrgossv6928 24 дня назад
they agreed many many years ago and declare State of Israel but the islamo-terrorist star war, and until this day they don't want two states solution, the only thing they want is to erase Israel. but every time they are starting the war, loosing and crying! and for NO reason I have to pay as an eu cityzen millions euros for "help" and the terrorist use those money to make fkg rockets!
@erellevi4400
@erellevi4400 24 дня назад
@@Twinkiepower420 the right wing does not want two states, i was saying that other then that the current goverment is extremist anyway, yes the majority is right wing yet there are left wings who support 2 states and those are the people he talks about
@Weavileiscool
@Weavileiscool 24 дня назад
Me, an American: why July 4th?
@jdng86
@jdng86 24 дня назад
Because the world doesn't revolve around American holidays.
@ElectrostatiCrow
@ElectrostatiCrow 24 дня назад
They're trying to do something while the Yanks are distracted.
@stockie_uk
@stockie_uk 24 дня назад
Various reasons: Rishi may have been facing a internal vote of no confidence and leadership challenge after his MPs faith in him declined. There was good news with inflation dropping to 2.3%. Forecasting showed that government borrowing in the autumn was going to be higher than expected so he wouldn't be able to justify the tax cuts he would like to do. the General Election campaign to 6 weeks long as a minimum so... The right-wing politics apparatus that we share with the US didn't want to be be working flat out on UK & US elections at the same time over September/October. They didn't want it to clash during the English school holidays (mid July-end of August) when the greatest number of people are on holiday. They didn't want to hold it December/January as it would interrupt peoples Christmas's and older people (who tend to vote Conservative) are less likely to come out and vote in the colder and darker winter months. & The more time passes, the more problems and scandals are piling up for the Conservatives.
@vboyz21
@vboyz21 23 дня назад
Nice video, but write the date correctly...DD/MM
@nickxplore4265
@nickxplore4265 23 дня назад
Well done, Norway, Spain and Ireland. Countries for HUMANS.
@suevialania
@suevialania 22 дня назад
And now recognize, Catalonia! Basque Country, Galiza! Curdistan! Canary Guanche Islands! EtcAnd Morocco cities of Ceuta & Mellla!
@noone2262
@noone2262 21 день назад
I'm moroccan. Spain can keep Ceuta and melilla. Stop the genocide in gaza. And just for your info, catalans are also in support of recognising palestine.
@suevialania
@suevialania 21 день назад
@@noone2262 if you don't care about Morocco, you are a traitor! And you must support the Republic of Catalonia!! And what about the Curdistan, where Turkish do a genocide? Double standards!
@uvbe
@uvbe 24 дня назад
Not usually happy about what my country does. Glad this is not one of those times!
@gusgrow9768
@gusgrow9768 24 дня назад
What country are you from?
@uvbe
@uvbe 24 дня назад
@@gusgrow9768 Spain
@nom33345
@nom33345 24 дня назад
Feliz por reconocer terroristas?
@joaquincimas1707
@joaquincimas1707 24 дня назад
​@@nom33345Llora
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor 24 дня назад
Israel you had it coming
@user-fz8hq4tv7n
@user-fz8hq4tv7n 22 дня назад
We dont care. You can say what you want, terror stat of palestain will never be
@ry7300
@ry7300 22 дня назад
Stop shaking your legs 😂
@davidcooks2379
@davidcooks2379 15 дней назад
Norway could give some of its northern territories to palestinians. Surely nobody suggests Israel should cede their sovereign territory to terrorists. Gaza and Judea and Samaria are Israel sovereign territory since 1948
@Savings_and_Grift_Plan
@Savings_and_Grift_Plan 24 дня назад
2:05 "Was a reward for terrorism" Bold talk coming from a dude who the International Criminal Court has labeled as a war criminal.
@GatisLandis
@GatisLandis 24 дня назад
Where was this criminal court when there was genocide in Syria, they are a joke.
@nom33345
@nom33345 24 дня назад
The same criminal court that's done nothing against Kim jong un? Yeah, reliable source
@spacemarine3482
@spacemarine3482 21 день назад
@@nom33345 He's already sanctioned to hell plus he isn't committing a genocide.
@spacemarine3482
@spacemarine3482 21 день назад
@@GatisLandis What genocide? The one ISIS did against the Yazidi?
@nom33345
@nom33345 20 дней назад
@@spacemarine3482 not committing genocide? Are you stupid?
@looseycanon
@looseycanon 24 дня назад
I'd actually say, that two states is nonsense. I keep thinking about split of British Raj into India and Pakistan, where both eastern and western halves of Pakistan were administered from the West, but were fairly different, to the point that East declared independence on West, had a war with the West and now is a separate country. I wonder, given how long has this mess had been left to persist, just how much have the populations changed? Whether we'd not get a repeat of what happened around India, if we went with the two state solution, given it's decades old concept. So maybe, it would be more prudent to split theoretical Palestinian state into two territorially homogeneous states.
@memeconsumer773
@memeconsumer773 24 дня назад
Thats a interesting view, but its important to know that Pakistan and Bangladesh were vastly different countries, especially in terms of culture and beliefs so it would be applicable if the two theoretical states were that different (Which idk much about Palestiniani culture), its also important to know that if it were not for India's massive support for rebels in Bangladesh it wouldn't have been created
@kingofhearts3185
@kingofhearts3185 24 дня назад
It's not 1:1, but you make a reasonable case. That's basically how things have operated for years too.
@kumbaya69421
@kumbaya69421 24 дня назад
@@kingofhearts3185 As an Indian or Bangladeshi, I'd say the split worked out well, as a Pakistani, maybe not so much.
@zackgravity7284
@zackgravity7284 24 дня назад
@@memeconsumer773 pakistan also did atrocities to bangladesh
@nayeemhaider8367
@nayeemhaider8367 23 дня назад
Well Pak and bangladesh didnt work out because of cultural differences. When in comes to Gaza and the West Bank, they share a common ethnicity, language culture etc
@Griffiana
@Griffiana 24 дня назад
"...dum, da-da-da-dum, da-da-da-dum, da-da-da-dum, da-da-da-dum."
@joshuamariano9172
@joshuamariano9172 23 дня назад
so is this time to recognize separatist movements in Spain as well?
@generatea2207
@generatea2207 24 дня назад
Catalonia stares aggressively
@santividal9387
@santividal9387 24 дня назад
Naaa. Catalonia's process towards independence is slowly dying, even if the opposition parties in Spain keep arguing otherwise. You only have to see the results on the elections of Catalonia this past weeks. The pro independence parties have died out and for the first time in decades they don't even sum a simple majority in the Congress. Catalan people are moving on
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 24 дня назад
Dream on! Don't get any funny ideas. This is just an exception, 'cause they're Jews. You know how it is. Spain is not Jewish so not the same.
@alexisdasiukevich5417
@alexisdasiukevich5417 24 дня назад
Catalonia just voted overwhelmingly for unionism in the last election.
@teddybearington3
@teddybearington3 24 дня назад
❤❤❤
@tynovel
@tynovel 24 дня назад
Ben's pronunciation of Taiwan always sounds weird to my ears. Maybe he is enunciating the "W" a tad too much. The usual way most people pronounce it is tai-1. Yes, 1 as in the number.
@Longhouse3321
@Longhouse3321 23 дня назад
Not sure about ireland...they really don't get along with them now.
@LurkingObserver
@LurkingObserver 24 дня назад
As long as they recognise Taiwan...
@VYZD846
@VYZD846 23 дня назад
They won’t.
@neverletmego6414
@neverletmego6414 23 дня назад
Taiwan's own constitution says it's a part of China but under a different government "Republic of China". Until they change their constitution no one is going to recognize "Republic of Taiwan"
@vivekp4854
@vivekp4854 24 дня назад
Doesn't palestine want the entirety of the current israel, gaza and west bank ?
@metamorphis7
@metamorphis7 24 дня назад
No
@preetjitsingh328
@preetjitsingh328 24 дня назад
​@@metamorphis7Hamas yes. PA : No. They want something along the lines of 1967 borders.
@Lo6a4evskiy
@Lo6a4evskiy 24 дня назад
@@preetjitsingh328 is that actually supported by any real actions? Last I checked all of the negotiations about anything of the sort have historically failed and all of the polling also suggests otherwise.
@preetjitsingh328
@preetjitsingh328 24 дня назад
@@Lo6a4evskiy issue is about some caves and one neighbourhood. In fact had Tzipi Livi won; there would have been a Palestinian State. Would it have lasted? God knows. The right wing from both sides might not have allowed it
@TheBarrej2006
@TheBarrej2006 24 дня назад
As always, its complicated. Most of them do dream of that, but most (almost all) believe that it is not practical or reasonable. The people are broadly divided into 2 groups, those that believe that peaceful coexistence with Israel is possible, and those that do not believe that it is possible. Those who believe that peaceful coexistence is not possible will seek for all the territory, even if they believe that it is practically impossible, because anything else is untenable. Those who believe in peaceful coexistence want a fair division of territory, (details can be determined), but are unwilling to just take Israel at their terms, because peaceful coexistence requires a less then fully one-sided relationship.
@herisruns
@herisruns 21 день назад
i recognize the independent states of catalunya and euskara ❤💛💚
@UncontrolledJibe
@UncontrolledJibe 24 дня назад
Yes, but they only recognize "from the fence to the sea"
@bennygoodmanisgod
@bennygoodmanisgod 24 дня назад
Even that is too much
@Billious
@Billious 24 дня назад
Spain! Spain! Spain! 🇪🇸
@mr.netflix9149
@mr.netflix9149 24 дня назад
Portugal, Portugal, Portugal 🇵🇹!
@United-Nations-Space-Command.
@United-Nations-Space-Command. 24 дня назад
Didn't the PM sell spain to Catalonia Separatists to keep his job?
@mr.heisenberg1570
@mr.heisenberg1570 24 дня назад
Viva España! 🇪🇸
@alexisdasiukevich5417
@alexisdasiukevich5417 24 дня назад
@@United-Nations-Space-Command. Yeah but it paid off, support for independence has now declined massively and unionist parties won big at the last election.
@slaveofrhllor
@slaveofrhllor 23 дня назад
​@@alexisdasiukevich5417"Support for independence has now declined massively"...😂😂😂😂 In your dreams...
@ancaoraathasach
@ancaoraathasach 24 дня назад
Excellent news. Proud day to be Irish! Kudos for pronouncing "Taoiseach" correctly.
@mayoite160
@mayoite160 24 дня назад
Israel really lashed out at Ireland by using the terrorism card, talk about tone deaf
@elvangulley3210
@elvangulley3210 24 дня назад
​@@mayoite160they are right this just rewarded hamas and Ireland has a long history of supporting terrorism
@Ogeroigres
@Ogeroigres 24 дня назад
Take all the Palestinians then.
@bennygoodmanisgod
@bennygoodmanisgod 24 дня назад
Not surprising coming from the same country who sent condolences to Nazi Germany after Hitler died.
@thomashelbo1432
@thomashelbo1432 24 дня назад
.. but where will this "Palestine" be...?
@bennelong8451
@bennelong8451 23 дня назад
We need a new Reconquista
@Protont
@Protont 24 дня назад
So Palestine gets spanish recognition but Kosovo doesn’t because they dont wanna encourage separatism?
@connecticutaggie
@connecticutaggie 24 дня назад
Nation states have internationally recognized borders and a ruling structure that represents the country and all relations between that country and other nation states. Palestine has neither so, what/who is the 'Palestine' that these countries are recognizing?
@nenasiek
@nenasiek 24 дня назад
Its to say that the 2 state solution needs to happen, theres no agreement on where the border is.
@IcarianX
@IcarianX 24 дня назад
The borders are the 1967 borders. They are internationally recognised. The Palestinian authority has been recognised as the ruling authority, though they don't control Gaza. The division of the two was a deliberate tactic by Israel so we should not reward Israel by using it as an excuse not to recognise Palestine.
@darth3911
@darth3911 24 дня назад
@@nenasiekThat’s not possible as the majority of Palestines people are against a two state solution. If it wasn’t for that fact the current war would never of happened.
@connecticutaggie
@connecticutaggie 23 дня назад
@@IcarianX The problem with the Palestinian authority is that they have no authority and they don't "rule" (set and enforce laws) so you can't negotiate a treaty with them that will count for anything. They have a "constitution" that was created by the British 100 years ago but it seems no one follows it. Also, the lack of continuity of their land and that it is mostly wholly within Israel makes things even more complex. This is all stuff that "Palestine" needs to work out and create a cohesive approach. Maybe we need a three state solution. Regarding the borders, the extreme end of both sides consider all of the land is theirs and that the other side are interlopers. Other then the six-day war and the current war, it has been mostly Palestine that has refused to accept those borders. That needs to be resolved before recognition makes sense.
@connecticutaggie
@connecticutaggie 23 дня назад
@@nenasiek Yes, and the primary groups refusing to accept and respect the 1967 borders are in Palestine. Maybe the only real solution is to move toward a 3-state solution (Israel, Southern Palestine(Gaza), and Northern Palestine(West Bank)) since there does not seem to be one voice that can speak for bother portions of Palestine.
@youcantata
@youcantata 21 день назад
Peace for Papstein.
@rimacalid6557
@rimacalid6557 19 дней назад
The US and UK should do the same, if they want the world to take their mediation seriously.
@chasemeeske4059
@chasemeeske4059 24 дня назад
How funny would it be if the US, UK and Israel recognise Catalonia and the Basque Country
@MULTIMAN-MUSIC
@MULTIMAN-MUSIC 24 дня назад
Please inform yourself. 143 out of 190 UN nations already recognise Palestine as a state, those who don’t are former British colonies like America, Canada, Israel and Australia guess why, yeah, all European settler and colonies that massacres the local ethnic population.
@VivaErDuce
@VivaErDuce 24 дня назад
I don't think it would be possible ngl
@rizkyadiyanto7922
@rizkyadiyanto7922 24 дня назад
spain will recognize hawai, scotland, and north ireland.
@ayouberriouch5973
@ayouberriouch5973 24 дня назад
I like how you see an attack on Israel as an attack on the US and UK . AIPAC is incredible.
@joaquincimas1707
@joaquincimas1707 24 дня назад
Cry harder. Catalonians and Basque people have the same rights as the rest of spaniards. In fact, the basque country have plenty autonomy in everything outside military (their taxes are collected by their goverment) Comparing Palestine with Catalonia and the Basque Country is like comparing the moon and the sun.
@michaelk4896
@michaelk4896 23 дня назад
Spain recognises Palestine but calls Catalunyan secession/independence 'illegal'. Peak irony.
@lookash3048
@lookash3048 22 дня назад
Spanish government doesn't bomb Barcelona. Moreover Barcelona in Spain is the second most important city in the country. That's gigantic difference.
@michaelk4896
@michaelk4896 22 дня назад
@@lookash3048 The current Spanish state is the direct successor of Francoist Spain, who certainly did bomb and suppress any and all independence movements. They have definitely bombed Barcelona before. The suppression of the Catalunyan independence movement and jailing the movement's leaders, while supporting an independence movement of a people on the other side of the Med that do not want to be part of Israel and have their own culture/language/identity, is peak cognitive dissonance and highly hypocritical.
@spacemarine3482
@spacemarine3482 21 день назад
@@michaelk4896 The Catalan indepndece parties are litteral are minority in Catalonia know
@faisali.chowdhiry821
@faisali.chowdhiry821 21 день назад
@@michaelk4896 false equivalence
@marcb08
@marcb08 21 день назад
​@@michaelk4896Palestinians don't want independence from Israel, they are -in fact- independent, they want to stop colonisation and genocide.
@Animodeus
@Animodeus 21 день назад
Can anyone send me the map of Palestine in the 18s? The same map that looks like a corn ice cream
@val-schaeffer1117
@val-schaeffer1117 23 дня назад
Israel and USA should recognise Catalunya as a separate nation. Having said that, I never see Thailand, India or even rich South Korea and Taiwan feel they are entitled to an opinion on Spain and Norway. What is it about Western countries, that they just cannot mind their own business?
@marcb08
@marcb08 21 день назад
Catalonia moved on from independence... tldr eu made a video on how PSC (Catalan branch of PSOE, a unionist leftist party) won the election in Catalunya (you can go and see it).... but not only that, the different independentist parties have lost the majority of the parliament for the first time in decades... so, not even Catalans wants independence anymore 🤭🤭🤭
@MrJaakko007
@MrJaakko007 24 дня назад
spain we dont recognize kosovo but we do palestina
@aleksa1410
@aleksa1410 24 дня назад
Weird how they don’t recognize both since they have shown that they like to support terrorists
@ivannaharmoni
@ivannaharmoni 24 дня назад
Palestine as a nation of independent and unique mix of people existed for centuries before Britain arrived and invented Israel. Kosovo as a independent state was formed due to paranoia and distrust between ethnicities and the hubris of nationalistic fervor. Catalonia is a richer than average province of Spain. Essentially, Rich snobs not wanting to pay their fair share to the country. Arguing instead a difference in dialect constitutes them as whole different nation.
@tompickel
@tompickel 24 дня назад
​@@ivannaharmoni Please don't reinvent history.
@kingofhearts3185
@kingofhearts3185 24 дня назад
​@@ivannaharmoni I'm almost impressed how much you twisted all 3 of those to be so divorced from the truth. You have a future in politics.
@fennoman9241
@fennoman9241 24 дня назад
​@@ivannaharmoni Israel has historically existed for far longer than this idea of fake nation "palestine".
@eviataryarhi6708
@eviataryarhi6708 23 дня назад
You can’t do that step when one side screams “from the river to the sea “ if you’ll give them the river they will push to the sea
@spacemarine3482
@spacemarine3482 21 день назад
fFom the river to the sea was originally in the Likud party charter (From the River to the sea their will only be Israeli soverienty) and taken by Palestians for their own cry of indepence.
@anthonyn.7379
@anthonyn.7379 23 дня назад
Bibi continues to lose both at home and abroad 😂
@2.Cuzzzz
@2.Cuzzzz 22 дня назад
Israel in retaliation should recognize Svalbard as it's independent country........
@Lambzalot
@Lambzalot 24 дня назад
I'm not going to act like I understand how this process works. However, wouldn't making Palestine a nation state immediately throw it on the state sponsor of terrorism list limiting the options of a that you could give it?
@Ramschat
@Ramschat 24 дня назад
Probably, yes What makes it complicated is that the two seperated parts of Palestine are ruled by two different organizations as well. The West-Bank is not under Hamas control. I expect that embassies would be opened there, rather than in Gaza
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 24 дня назад
What?
@Ushmadand
@Ushmadand 24 дня назад
Anytime Palestinian Statehood is talked about, it is either in reference to the Palestinian Authority led by Fatah (Who don't like Hamas) or a future Palestinian governmental organization, so I doubt it. The Palestinian Authority has no "military" as they officially declared that there would be no more militias in July 2007. The militias who agreed were absorbed into the police force and those who didn't denounced Fatah and continue militia activities in the event of IDF raids in the West Bank. Hamas is in a similar position to Taliban Afghanistan in how no one recognizes them as the official government but works with them as they do govern Gaza.
@CedarHunt
@CedarHunt 24 дня назад
The bigger immediate issue would be that, by recognizing Palestinian statehood, they are implicitly endorsing Palestinian territorial claims and rewarding terrorism. After all, a state must have defined borders, and "Palestine" claims virtually all Israeli land. Though I suppose Israel could respond by officially recognizing Catalonian statehood in the case of Spain.
@Abdullah_the_Palestinian
@Abdullah_the_Palestinian 24 дня назад
Jenin, Nablus, and Tulkarm have been under Hamas military control since about a year. ​@@Ramschat
@harrymaxwell9342
@harrymaxwell9342 24 дня назад
If a Palestine state were to exist as a state, who governs the state? Who decides the borders? And how can we ensure they don't do another October 7th?(asking out of curiosity, no shitposting pls)
@Ganjor420
@Ganjor420 24 дня назад
Well the last thing agreed on, and not taken by force, was UN resolution 181... so that sounds like a reasonable point to start. Of cause I can't speak for the people living there.
@oussamaalaoui9121
@oussamaalaoui9121 24 дня назад
If a Palestinian state existed years ago the 7 October won't happen because Hamas won't be able to take controlle over Gaza strip
@dhjddjjejdjf1680
@dhjddjjejdjf1680 24 дня назад
1967 borders
@baku_m_salti3128
@baku_m_salti3128 24 дня назад
The Palestinian Authority would govern it. The borders (by international law) would be the 1967 borders of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem, but of course changes might occur during negotiations. And of course, the last question is the trickiest one for everybody, and there will have to be an enormous amount of truth and reconciliation to ensure that neither side is taken over by absolutists like Hamas or Netanyahu. It's a long path, but the path of a thousand miles starts with a step. Hopefully this helps
@leGUIGUI
@leGUIGUI 24 дня назад
"who governs the state?" PLO "Who decides the borders?" The Oslo accords. "And how can we ensure they don't do another October 7th?" How can you ensure Pakistan won't attack India? there is no 1000% way to do it, that doesn't mean neither Pakistan not India should be treated as any less than as of state. As a matter of fact, Palestine becoming a state would result in it having less reasons to attack Israel. It would make Israel safer.
@SeverusFelix
@SeverusFelix 24 дня назад
I stand with New Caledonia. Just living somewhere for ten years doesn't make you a native. That goes for all you Californians and New Yorkers colonizing my country, too.
@spacemarine3482
@spacemarine3482 21 день назад
Sorry man housing prices are insane
@SeverusFelix
@SeverusFelix 21 день назад
@@spacemarine3482 I bet you could beat up Will Smith. He has a nice house.
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 23 дня назад
Recognition of Palestine, without committing troops to a peace keeping force is pointless posturing.
@incurableromantic4006
@incurableromantic4006 23 дня назад
Quite. These countries all love to condemn Israel - but none of them are going to do the wet work and take the losses of dealing with ham as.
@ChinnuWoW
@ChinnuWoW 24 дня назад
Why do they only recognize Palestine NOW and not years ago?
@guardianoffire8814
@guardianoffire8814 24 дня назад
Pressure from Israel; specifically Israel uses the right to use vast amounts of money to lobby politicians in the democratic system using the free money the American govt provides to influence foreign policy on the Middle East throughout Western countries like the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Germany and high ranking officials in the European Union.
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 24 дня назад
Something happened on 7th October that won them over.
@bennygoodmanisgod
@bennygoodmanisgod 24 дня назад
Because they had common sense then. Not anymore
@technobladeleakedclips1827
@technobladeleakedclips1827 24 дня назад
Because they fell to the woke mob
@Proud_Hadrami
@Proud_Hadrami 24 дня назад
​@@bennygoodmanisgodnah common sence returned to them
@vampireheart1987
@vampireheart1987 23 дня назад
According to Netanyahu, recognizing the state of Palestine would be "a reward for terrorism". Any neutral and clear-thinking human being would rather say that giving the Israeli government what it wants would be "a reward for terrorism".
@Alex-fs9vl
@Alex-fs9vl 21 день назад
Palestine - Hamas. Ofc they are terrorists,all people know it
@davidpowelson4817
@davidpowelson4817 23 дня назад
Yea? What's to recognize? A Capital? A Currency? A Economy? A Currency? ...a bunch Palestinians do not make up a State.
@noone2262
@noone2262 21 день назад
4 million people fighting for their land are what now?
@davidpowelson4817
@davidpowelson4817 21 день назад
@@noone2262 a lost cause.
@noone2262
@noone2262 21 день назад
@@davidpowelson4817 so they should just accept getting kicked out of their homes?
@jb-r9717
@jb-r9717 24 дня назад
Two states sound good, however they have two lives all in one place, so Israel has to do some territorial concession to move all people from Gaza close to others, , that way each other in its own place , this division has caused the war they have today.
@Horsa-sr8oz
@Horsa-sr8oz 24 дня назад
It is interesting that so many countries are happy to recognize a group of people run by two governments, one having the declared goal of the destruction of Israel, and neither having any plans to change their current autocratic systems, yet groups of people like the Kurds are totally ignored. Why has the UN done nothing about the Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon, Syria etc al. Even when the West Bank and Gaza were Arab controlled for nearly 20 years, no effort was really made to rehabilitate them. Going so far in fact that the PLO charter with Egypt and Syria in 1964 guaranteed that they would make no claim on what was then Jordanian territory which is now the West Bank. I have asked many people how you make peace with those who are vehemently committed to your destruction. Never received a constructive reply. Throughout the world many demonstration have taken place, especially in Muslim countries, calling for the destruction of Israel. The UN does nothing as this is considered normal. Whenever anyone visits Israel, there is never a surety, that there will not be a Hamas rocket or terror attack. Such possibilities are a fact of life in Israel. The UN again does nothing.
@scarecrow108productions7
@scarecrow108productions7 24 дня назад
Because the UN has been compartmentalized and compromised... The UN we know is no more. They even mourned the Iranian Pres. death.... shameless organization Hypocritically taking sides just for "ratings".
@Fusseliko
@Fusseliko 24 дня назад
They do not usually recognize Hamas as a legitimate authority in palestinian statehood. In their view, Gaza should be controlled by the only recognized government, the PA.
@VYZD846
@VYZD846 24 дня назад
Well said. It’s because the Arab lobby is rich and powerful. That’s why the UN has done almost nothing to stop such hypocrisy. It’s sick how it’s OK to call for the destruction of another country if that intended country is Israel; people say such things to Israel without batting an eye, but do that with Palestine and everybody loses their minds.
@sidritkercyku6661
@sidritkercyku6661 24 дня назад
Spain forgot about Catalonia and Kosovo. This is pure action against Israel and not some sort of good hearted spanish decision
@rizkyadiyanto7922
@rizkyadiyanto7922 24 дня назад
literally noone cares about catalonia lol. even other EU country doesnt support the separation.
@ayouberriouch5973
@ayouberriouch5973 24 дня назад
You know that you can use that logic with every country with separate movements.
@lucmart1470
@lucmart1470 24 дня назад
seethe.
@sidritkercyku6661
@sidritkercyku6661 24 дня назад
@@ayouberriouch5973 yeah? When did poland crush an independence referendum in recent history?
@ayouberriouch5973
@ayouberriouch5973 24 дня назад
@@sidritkercyku6661 i said every country with a separate movement. Not just a random country . And the situation in catalonia isn't the same as Palestine . People in Spain aren't going to Catalonia to kick people out of their home and murder their children
@DaDunge
@DaDunge 23 дня назад
Spain? Spain never recognize cessesionist regions. I guess it's cause Palestine isn't exactly a cessesionist region.
@dohminkonoha3200
@dohminkonoha3200 17 дней назад
Then Israel stands alone , so what?
@svetochmira9994
@svetochmira9994 23 дня назад
After the split of British Mandate Palestine, arabs got their own state, it's called Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan (Jordan is short). And its pretty cool state.
@A190xx
@A190xx 23 дня назад
Yep a 2 state solution was given in 1948, but now they want more.
@spacemarine3482
@spacemarine3482 21 день назад
Jordians and Palestians aren't the same
@svetochmira9994
@svetochmira9994 21 день назад
​@@spacemarine3482 I did't say they are exactly the same, but they were very close to begin with, and since the split of British mandate many arabs from Israel moved to Jordan. I read some figures, and like 40% of Jordan's current population are immigrants or their descendants.
@spacemarine3482
@spacemarine3482 21 день назад
@@svetochmira9994 Ya their 40% Palestinian because they were ethnically cleansed by Israel in 1948 and went to Jordan for refugee
@svetochmira9994
@svetochmira9994 21 день назад
@@spacemarine3482 well, ethnic cleansing part is mostly not true, 2million arabs live in Israel today, and their demographic looks solid.
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 23 дня назад
And when is Spain going to recognize the independence of Catalonia and the Basque country?
@EVVYT-iu4we
@EVVYT-iu4we 23 дня назад
Catalonia and the Basque country are by far the most pro-palestine regions of Spain
@InvictusSolDeus
@InvictusSolDeus 23 дня назад
Spain is not bombing either Euskadi or Catalonia. In fact they are quite privileged regions, which have a great autonomy In addition, most of the population of these regions doesn't want the independence. (In the last elections, the independence parties of Catalonia obtained their worst results since the 80s) On the other hand, both Euskadi and Catalonia also support the Palestinians, so Israel would gain nothing.
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 23 дня назад
​@@InvictusSolDeus I think you should join a Spanish brigade to help Palestinians fight for their independence. Maybe peace keeping troops?
@spacemarine3482
@spacemarine3482 21 день назад
@@richdobbs6595 Go join the IDF
@eranb66
@eranb66 23 дня назад
Next week's news: Israel recognises Catalonia and the Basque country, and opens embassies in Barcelona and Bilbao.
@marcb08
@marcb08 21 день назад
Okayyyy... Next next week's news: Catalonia and Basque country recognises Palestine (Yeah, that's the sentiment of catalan and basque peoples, inside or outside Spain, the majority are with Palestine)
@Duke6598
@Duke6598 24 дня назад
Literally almost all countries recognize palestine. Israel can keep crying about 3 more countries, but it doesnt matter.
@GAGONMYCOREY
@GAGONMYCOREY 24 дня назад
most of europe doesnt. and thats what the west cares about.
@ayouberriouch5973
@ayouberriouch5973 24 дня назад
It does matter in the long term
@jeremyboughtono2
@jeremyboughtono2 24 дня назад
It is a meaningless gesture.
@doublethink6947
@doublethink6947 24 дня назад
Israel in retaliation should recognize Catalonia and Basque country as indepenent states
@wanali4504
@wanali4504 24 дня назад
That would effectively sever relations with Spain. But why not do it for the meme?
@HanbooLeidenschaft
@HanbooLeidenschaft 23 дня назад
Nah, that will be counterproductive. If israel recognize those two, it will make it clear that Palestine is fact have same basis to gain independent. Which is not their goal. We all know that Netanyahu and his cabinet goal will always be their so called "Greater Israel". The evidence is clear, they openly saying that over the years.
@InvictusSolDeus
@InvictusSolDeus 23 дня назад
Both Euskadi and Catalonia support the Palestinians
@odiadordeisrael
@odiadordeisrael 23 дня назад
Israel has no right to retaliate against anyone.
@drazenbicanic3590
@drazenbicanic3590 21 день назад
@@InvictusSolDeus Alliances change. Until the Suez crisis, Israel was supported (and armed) by the Eastern European countries, and the Arabs by the Western ones. Then comes: The enemy of my enemy.....
@itayarvatz7559
@itayarvatz7559 24 дня назад
Personally I mind the concept of plastinians and Israelis living next to each other in peace however I see no governing body who are willing to live peacefully next to Israel, Hamas's Gaza is a mess with indoctrination against accepting any form of Israel and the PLO in the west bank (aka the plastinians authority) who still rewards acts of terror against civilians and soldiers (pay for slay) so if that's the situation between Israel and the plastinians how can we insure peace in the region? How can we form peace? Israel and the plastinians can't reach peace with the current government on all fronts
@Warriorcats64
@Warriorcats64 24 дня назад
Will Israel recognize Catalonia now is the question?
@joshuamariano9172
@joshuamariano9172 23 дня назад
They should! Add in Basque.
@versenelol5083
@versenelol5083 22 дня назад
Catalonia is pro-Palestine lmao
@Joshdyisdifh
@Joshdyisdifh 21 день назад
Well the Catalonian regional government has been supportive of Palestinians in recent years.
@alessandrorossi7135
@alessandrorossi7135 23 дня назад
Taiwan "I will not provoke China..." China "Them's fighting words"
@ThijquintNL
@ThijquintNL 24 дня назад
Modern French colonialism be like
@kingofhearts3185
@kingofhearts3185 24 дня назад
They had independence referendums, and the people always voted to remain.
@ThijquintNL
@ThijquintNL 24 дня назад
@@kingofhearts3185 bc of the french settler population and foreign workers who rely on the french, basically imported votes
@LordDim1
@LordDim1 24 дня назад
@@kingofhearts3185 This is true, however to be fair to the Kanaks it’s a bit more complicated. The two first referenda resulted in a no vote, but the second was significantly closer than the first, and the pro-independence movement seemed to have serious momentum and might win the third. Then covid hit, which disproportionately affected Kanak communities. The mourning period is seriously important in Kanak culture, so Kanak leaders asked for the referendum to be postponed until after the pandemic, which France refused, causing the pro-independence side to boycott
@kingofhearts3185
@kingofhearts3185 24 дня назад
@@ThijquintNL Those are still French citizens living in French territory, they have a right to decide the fate of their home.
@kingofhearts3185
@kingofhearts3185 24 дня назад
@@LordDim1 Boycotting a vote doesn't make it invalid, it surrenders. Not helped by the previous 2 referendums going the same way. Paris agreed to 3 and there were 3.
@zUJ7EjVD
@zUJ7EjVD 23 дня назад
Looking at a map of countries that recognize Palestine, and you basically see a see of Green with western countries and pacific islands left out. Recognition of Palestine is long-overdue and also probably more of less already a done issue. Over 2/3rds of the UN recognize Palestine. Ones that don't are the US, Canada, UK, Australia, little Australia, Half-ish of EU countries, Switzerland, North Macedonia, Kosovo, Moldova, Armenia, Eritrea, Cameroon, Panama, Thailand, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and 8 Pacific Islands.
@Mrblazed420
@Mrblazed420 24 дня назад
Two sate salutation never worked and never will
@rizkyadiyanto7922
@rizkyadiyanto7922 24 дня назад
what does?
@sunjarty8521
@sunjarty8521 24 дня назад
​@@rizkyadiyanto7922 Ideally multinational state with equal power distribution between Muslim and Jewish populations. Though that's not happening anytime soon.
@ChuffedLemon
@ChuffedLemon 24 дня назад
Never worked because it’s never actually been attempted.
@spacemarine3482
@spacemarine3482 21 день назад
@@sunjarty8521 Ya, that the last thing Israel wants, considering it wouldn't be a fascist ethnostate anymore
@jamesbruce4927
@jamesbruce4927 24 дня назад
I can understand the recognition of statehood as a step on the way to a 2-state solution, but the timing of this from Norway, Ireland and Spain is terrible. The Palestinian cause has been hijacked by Hamas and that has to give us pause until they're out of the picture. We can have a legitimate debate about Palestine/Israel, but only once Hamas are removed from power. I'm trying to think of an analogy, perhaps this: it feels like becoming a vocal fan of R. Kelly's music during his arrest in 2019. Fair enough, it's possible for a person to like the music anytime - but is that an appropriate window in which to be buying albums and very loudly praising his music? It sends the wrong signals.
@ayouberriouch5973
@ayouberriouch5973 24 дня назад
You have to understand that hamas will always exist if other countries don't support Palestinian statehood. Hamas know that they wouldn't have international support so their own slogan is " look no one is gonna support you except us" but if the western countries support Palestinian state and fatah as their government then hamas will lose support and collapse.
@jamesbruce4927
@jamesbruce4927 23 дня назад
@@ayouberriouch5973 Genuinely interesting point. I can understand that some sort of aggressive party will be present in the absence of statehood, but they need not necessarily be voted into power. There were other parties available in Jan 2006 elections which could have won. I am very sceptical that a group as bad as Hamas would necessarily fill that space. Even in the context of statelessness, Hamas outdoes itself.
@ayouberriouch5973
@ayouberriouch5973 23 дня назад
@@jamesbruce4927 i understand your point but you forgetting that hamas leaders are all orphans that lost their parents to Israel. They know that peacefully isreal will never give them a state . And When all hope is lost people will choose their only option to fight. If Israel gives Palestinians another option and chooses to give them another option without fighting. Hamas will lose its support and collapse .
@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu
@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu 24 дня назад
All old news. Is this "TLDR Yesterdaily"?
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 24 дня назад
They just updating daily
@aabbccdd4710
@aabbccdd4710 24 дня назад
You tell 'em
@samueldeoliveira4508
@samueldeoliveira4508 24 дня назад
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@ClassyMonkey1212
@ClassyMonkey1212 24 дня назад
This is a good example of termism winning. Kinda crazy
@joaquincimas1707
@joaquincimas1707 24 дня назад
Otherwise it will be an example of a state getting away from murdering thoudsand of innocent civilians? Just using the same arguments your using.
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