Why Revan Said True Jedi are WAY More Powerful Than Sith - Star Wars Explained 

Jolee Bindo said it best. "Love doesn't lead to the dark side. Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled... but passion is not the same thing as love. Controlling your passions while being in love... that's what they should teach you to beware. But love itself will save you... not condemn you."

The worst thing about the Madalorin s2 is that they seem to have retconned Luke thoughts on connection and how he wouldn't train Grogu if Grogu held on to his attachment to Din. It was Luke holding onto his attachment to his father that redeemed Anakin and yet Disney decides to have Luke regress back to the misguided teachings of the republic order.

If Revan is correct, then that could explain in part why Anakin was so powerful. His love for Padme gave him a strength no other Jedi of his time could tap.

"Because if you're a lover, you gotta be a fighter. Because if you don't fight for your love, what kind of love do you have?" - Keanu Reeves It would be amazing if he was cast as Revan if they decide to make a live-action version or something.

The problem with the Jedi Order is that it didn't train it's members to become strong in the Light so much as to avoid falling to the Dark at all costs. That's like becoming a monks to avoid the pitfalls of romantic passions but being expected to be able to handle those feelings at the same time. Avoidance is definitely not the same as preparedness.

Revan used both the light and the dark and still realizes that love and compassion make a jedi the greatest

Revan was a visionary of his time, he told the Jedi of his era that reform was needed but they shut him up. He was a master and much like Qui-Gon Jin was offered a seat on the high council. But he also refused for similar reasons. Revan could have taught Anakin many secrets of both the Light and the Dark, and after Palpatine was dead I think he could have safely looked into Sith discoveries from after his time.

In the novels, Luke actually sought out the reborn Palpatine, and became his student, ON PURPOSE, just to dabble in the dark side. If it wasn’t for Leia and Han, he might not have turned back. This is what brought him true balance, and the power of a grandmaster.

I also think Revan took a lot from Joliee Bindo whos own philosophy was pretty close to this "Controlling your passions while being in love that is what they should teach you, but love itself will save you not condemn you" or words to that effect

The Virgin Jedi: “Train children to become weaponized clinical sociopaths.” The Chad Revan: *“No.”*

I love that Revan is the person who made the Sith more powerful by inspiring the rule of two. Then in a way, found out how for the Jedi to become more powerful as well. One side learned, the other shunned the knowledge

I feel as if Obi wan also showed this in the show with his 2nd fight with vader as he become much more powerful while thinking of the ones he loves and wants to protect

Didn’t Revan learn this from Jolee Bindo? He taught that passion can lead to the dark side, but love can bring out the light and strengthen it.

I suppose this is a good example of the difference between love and attachment according to George Lucas. Attachment is specifically the idea of owning and possessing someone, which is wrong and a path to the dark. But if you love someone dearly, and healthily, and learn to face your emotions in a way that you can let them go, that is the power of true love. That’s the true selfless live that saved Vader. The Jedi forbade love because they feared attachment, but they should have taught them to embrace their feelings while processing them healthily. It wasn’t Anakin’s love for Padme that drove him to the dark, it was the fact he never learned to process those feelings in a healthy way

We were robed of the greatest version of Luke Skywalker by Disney.😢

Because they are powered by Love, which is more powerful than hate.

I feel like this makes sense with Anikan being the chosen he was a emotional person and it exposed cracks in the Jedi way technically he destroyed both sides allowing for Jedi now to feel emotion thus bringing balance to the force

Galen Marek aka Starkiller was extremely powerful in the force because of his emotional bonds. His growing love for Juno was ultimately the source of his increased power and seeing the force spirit of his late father on the Wookiee homeworld and the pain he felt hardened his resolve to do what needed to be done. Starkiller had great potential in the force and the fact that he was able to stalemate with Sidious if not best him in force ability is a testament to how weak the Jedi of pre empire was

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Perhaps it wasn't just the positive emotions that helped them be more powerful but also the connection itself. Expanding a persons connection to the for through these loved ones. Annikan was at his most powerful when he has padme and she was pregnant. But as soon as he disconnected from them we was weakened.

Revan was right. Revan's love saved Bastia. Their love and emotions made them very powerful. Revan was great visionary,he had many advantages. I agree. Had Revan lived during Clone Wars he would make much more powerful and noble Anakin. Anakin would be Grandmaster and Jedi,light side would have tremendous power. Great analysis. May the Force be with you too. Have a nice day :)

I love that Luke acknowledged the mastery an achievements of the Sith while not belittling or demonizing them.

Revan was able to incorporate his "Shadow" in psychoanalytic terms, making him one of the most powerful Jedi ever. His point of facing emotions rather than ignoring them, is spot on. You need to accept your darker side, and use it's energy for good, rather than letting it creep up and destroy everything.

My brothers thought the inquisitor in tales of the jedi that aksoka killed was darth Revan.

This is the Jedi order that I wish Disney could’ve given us

And KK squandered the opportunity that this lore would have provided.

One difficulty even Revan would have had is working with how possessive Anakin was. Even well-prepared, his past made him cling to people he cared for to a degree that did help him, but in the end was also his downfall. Could this have been carefully addressed by an attentive master? Very likely. But it would also have been really tough to get out of him, as it was based on childhood trauma.

They seriously need to get Keanu in as revan

So could we see the makings of this new Jedi order by our boy cal kestis along with his love night sister merrin

I think Revan was so powerful because he had experienced both the light and dark side. I feel as though the path to true power lay in using both sides of the force to utilize it to its full extent. Both Jedi and Sith hinder themselves by only using one aspect of the force. In my mind, the ideal way to use the force is by allowing yourself to feel emotions like the Sith, but to not allow them to control you. Feel passion and emotion, but also be tranquil and in control of them.

Love is the key to salvation. The problem comes when you put the one you “love” ahead of everything and everyone else. That is what caused Anakin’s fall. He sacrificed the galaxy for Padme and committed evil in the process. Anakin didn’t try to save Padme for Padme’s sake. He did it for himself with no thought to what Padme actually wanted. This is the difference the Jedi failed to understand: selfless love vs selfish love.

For the part you mentioned Luke studying the dark side refers to the cloned Palpatine. It didn’t last long, but it gave him a more well-rounded appreciation for the Force in its entirety.I think it was also the catalyst for him to fully accept those emotions in his New Jedi Order.

I like the idea that Jedi grow stronger due to positive emotions & that one of the key faults of the Clone Wars Jedi was their view on attachments! They attempted to suppress their emotions to avoid attachments which left some Jedi at odds with themselves & was a key factor in Anakin's fall as had he been raised in a more nurturing environment with the Jedi freeing his mother to give him peace of mind (it would be the least they could do for the mother of the boy who flew a Naboo Starfighter during the Battle of Naboo & possible chosen one) allowing him to focus on his training! This could have potentially allowed him to form a much healthier relationship with Padme & even marry her openly (Padme's relationship with Anakin was likely only considered scandalous due to Jedi dogma regarding attachments, as the deleted scene featuring Anakin interacting with her family on Naboo indicates that her family may have been supportive of such a union given Anakin's heroic actions as a boy & dedication to protecting Padme) with the support of her family & a more permissive Jedi Council! One of the things that likely alienated the Jedi from the wider galaxy was their suppressed emotions & secretiveness, which Palpatine was likely able to use to his advantage painting them as fanatics and blaming them for the war! Jedi would also likely be stronger, possibly leading to their vision being less clouded by the growing power of the Dark Side! Additionally Qui-Gon may have been seen as less of a maverick while the council could still be weary of Anakin due to his age, they may have been more permissive about him training the boy! Also Qui-Gon may have been stronger due to them being less dogmatic about attachments thus may not have died at Maul's hands as he & Obi-Wan would have been stronger! Additionally Obi-Wan & Satine may have been able to explore their relationship more! Dooku may have been less inclined to fall to the Dark Side had Qui-Gon survived!

It's ironic in a way but even in the Old Republic days of the Jedi it was obvious that the most powerful force users all had things to which they had deep attachment.

I agree 100% with this theory, when we review the most notable cases of users of the Force, practically all of them have walked both paths, they have formed ties with other people, be they love or friendship, and in general they have been rebellious against the jedi council of his time because his ideas were "controversial", that is why many fans have thought and considered Revan as the greatest user of the Force, maybe not in terms of brute force, but in control, wisdom and knowledge about it. Hopefully one day we would have the EU again as the central axis of the Star Wars canon story and we could see the movie trilogy based on Revan and the old republic that for many years we ask for, but the truth is that while Disney is still the owner I doubt that this is possible, having the best stories they chose to ignored and write new and terrible ones that nobody liked, the dark side has clouded their vision XD. Greetings.

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If only the Jedi had embraced these idea's much sooner. So many things would've turned out differently.

Luke Skywalker: "Everybody's gettin' laid. Therapists are also available if you're having an emotional crisis."

I've always thought that the Jedis' biggest weaknesses was their forbidding of attachments and never learning how to process and deal with their emotions rather than suppressing them. It's those two things that often lead Jedi to fall to the Dark Side.

A carebear with a lightsaber would be a terrifying foe.

It blows me away everyday how you come up with something new and interesting about Star Wars, thanks man!

I believe the Jedi are more powerful in the force because they worship the force like a god and strive to execute the will of the force where as sith use it as a weapon against their enemies

i wonder if revan will one day become canon like promised

if a true jedi fall to the dark side, will he actually be stronger gain? because jedi there fall to the dark side is become stronger the normal sith and jedi.

The irony of the jedi is that they constantly preached about not letting fear control you but the council was constantly ruled and shaped by fear

Maybe people will finally understand why these jedi from Green Rat Jedi order were fake to me , no more than politics puppets A lot of people limit themselves to the "CANON" or worse, to the shitty sequels that shouldn't exist at all because there is a real story after the 6th part... AND BEFORE THE MOVIES

I believe Revan shared part of his beliefs when he married Bastila but the Jedi said it Was Heretical and did not want him to spread his teachings to others.

so basically, emotions and feelings, both positive and negative, can give you power the old jedi order just had skill issue, not knowing that it was an asset which was one of the reasons we've watch many Jedi who fell to the dark side suddenly gained a power boost

%100 agreed. Emotions are a powerful way to connect to the force. Love and selflessness for those you care about are some of the greatest motivators and can't be overlooked. The Jedi Council got this seriously wrong..... .....it's a damn shame Disney never gave us Luke and his Jedi Order who were truly balanced, peaceful, embraced attachments and far superior to any Sith or dark-side wielder.

Qui gon literally discovered immortality (Force ghosts), something that Palpatine and Plagueis tried so hard to obtain.

Always love Revan's unique perspective on the force - ESPECIALLY surrounding happiness and love. As you said though, his ground-breaking concepts and revolutionary ideas were regrettably overlooked and underappreciated. It's a missed opportunity of epic proportions, leaving us yearning for what could have been.

If the original Jedi order allowed attachments, maybe Anakin wouldn't have turned to the dark side since he would be able to openly talk about his situation with the other jedi

It always made sense to me that using love and serenity would give you strength in the light side of the Force. And I often wondered why the Jedi council didn't see the wisdom of that approach and cut themselves off from the true power of the force. Ultimately, this led to their downfall.

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Attachment makes stronger in the force ? - yes Does it makes more vulnerable to falling to the darkside ? - Yes Does jedi are vary of falling down - oh yes - that is why they rejected the attachment to begin with.

I didn't know I needed to see Keanu play Revan but if they could make a good series of KOTOR with Reeves in the lead I might almost forgive Disney

This strength superiority to the sith may be because there are more emotions that are good in nature then there are bad ones possibly

I agree with what you’re saying, but I still think the Jedi do embody love. They just want the love to be shifted towards protecting people and serving.

I think of it like the soft magic vs Dark Magic. Dark Magic is more immediate and obvious. (Dark side) Soft magic is subtle and discrete. (Light side) It's why the Sith can often win battles but never the "war".

well according to George Lucas the dark side is more powerful, he said through his own lips soooooo...... he just nerfed them by having the sith have in fighting and have less of them

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Jedi accepting love and marriage is practicly the same as what sith do draw power from their emotions. The Jedi are constantly give birth to new dark side users because alot of Jedi are forced to since they cant deny their emotions which leads to frustration and slowly to curroption and falling to the dark side into an extreme. Accepting their emotions and building foundation and tapping into more sides of the force will just empower the jedi without risking falling to the dark side.

Just imagine how differently the SW universe would have been if the council welcomed, embraced, and encouraged Anakin’s love for Padme.

Nomi Sunrider was married to a Jedi before he was killed and went on to train as a Jedi. She eventually became grandmaster and severed Ulic Qel-Droma's connection to the Force as punishment for his crimes.

Attachments are a Jedis Achilles heel...isn't it are own ...no matter how successful how rich and powerful we as humans will become primal to protect what we love whether it be a person or a volleyball

Revan's great discovery= Sex is GOOD! Monk is BAD

I really like your video, but I wish you would include your sources.. I need to know what books to read.

Well , Revan was a bit smooth brained.

What if Obi wan and Anakin fall in love in the second film?? No padme. What would happen then??

Revan was one of the greatest Jedi's because he found the true teachings of Jedi ah. Teachings which showed that the Jedi & Sith Orders teachings were flawed, Jedi ah teaching shows the tru nature of the force was to weld both dark and light side abilities simultaneously "not to mention the force is meant to be a representation of yen and yang the balance between both good & bad or dark & light represented by both black and white sides of the yen and yang symbol". In Star Wars Rebels the story was told of the origin of the Jedi ah. The way the Jedi and Seth orders came to be was the Jedi ah that could not bring the force into balance & leaned more to the light was sent to one moon for meditation and the Jedi ah that could not bring the force into balance and leaned more to the dark side was sent to another moon they were not able to return to the main planet until they brought the force into balance those that did not come back went on to form the Sith order and the Jedi order. So based on this both Sith and Jedi orders are flawed teachings

Love is not attachment Deas ire is attachment just saying trust me. I know it’s a big part of my practice.

Jolee Bindo was right. The Jedi Order should have been training Jedi to deal with grief and loss not to deny attachments.

In the Kenobi series, Obi Wan pulled upon love and his attachment to Leia and Luke to escape being buried by Vader and to defeat him again. So now I suppose we do have this reflected in canon with that.

Love for others give one the fuel to fight on on when the colorful banners of ideals do not. Compassion can create opportunities for courage that are not vain but the highest form of service. There is no purer love than to lay one's life down for another.

Honestly i don't really see the Disney stuff as actual starwars its a alternate universe with Jake Skywalker and Han Bolo

The Jedi are supposed to be stronger yes. Yoda stated in the original movies that the dark side isn’t stronger, it’s easier, quicker, more seductive. I consider it more like getting a rush of adrenaline versus training for a long time. Sith can use these adrenaline rushes of force power where Jedi have to train to master the force in an emotionally entered and controlled manner which takes more time, but results in a better, more rounded practitioner.

Growing up with star wars, this was all painfully obvious to me even as a wee lad.

the old republik was way better. i liked it

wasn't Anaking attached to Pad me tho? Isnt that attachment when the jedi were not supposed to be attached?

Wait I thought jolie bindo was the one you came up with the whole love stuff

The reason the Jedi outlawed emotional attachment is simply because of the natural risks involved with attachment. Most of these Star Wars concepts are true to life in some way or another. With attachments in our lives, as long as our attachments are pure, and we aren't consumed with obsession, possession, control, jealousy, fear, anger, hate, or suffering, it will make all of us a stronger person in life. If we do become obsessive, controlling, jealous, or fearful of loss in our attachments, it can consume us. The same can be said of the Force in Star Wars. The light is about a person being allied with the Force, dealing in compassion, allowing nature to resume its course, and not seeking to dominate nature. The dark side is about succumbing to temptations rooted in weakness, negative emotion, and trying to dominate the Force itself (nature), and bend it to our will as much as possible to gain power from those negative emotions, and suffering. It makes complete sense why the Jedi Order would outlaw attachments in many ways, because there is so much room for error, and most Jedi aren't wise enough, skilled enough, or completely centered enough in their own being to control their emotions under such potential burdens. Keep in mind, leading up to the Clone Wars, the Jedi have been at peace in the galaxy for over 1000 years within the Republic. Most Jedi would be at serious risk of falling to the dark side if they had strong attachments because they have never experienced the seduction of the dark side in times of intense pressure, and conflict. The path of a Jedi is a never ending journey of self reflection, and learning control of ones self above all. There are very few Jedi during the 1000 year peace who actually reached the point where they were mature enough in their knowledge of self control to handle the potential burdens of attachment, especially in times of war, and conflict. That same rule against forming attachments also partially led to the downfall of the Jedi Order. With that being said, the fall of the Jedi Order was almost inevitable, and it took an insanely powerful combination of Sith who used completely foreign tactics to pull it off destroying the Republic, and the Jedi Order from the inside out. The Republic, and the Jedi Order were destroyed long before they even knew it.

I ain't saying Revan is the GOAT, but I'm not not saying it.

This is exactly why I will always lean towards the concept of being a grey jedi sentinel and a bendu je'daii for they were wayless rigid than the counselor and guardian orders of the jedi and the same can be said about the grey Paladin order; plus the grey jedi code and the je'daii code are way better than the jedi and sith codes because they offers true balance! 💯🔥😁😉👍

This is the version of Luke Skywalker I still hope to see😅

Day 132 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon

The best forces users may not have meet Or directly known eachother but they are connected As both learned the same as the other what thousands of others after or before then for thousands of years did no discover yet they did If they meet they treat eachother as equals if not more

Luke Skywalker fell to the darkside and become the cloned Emperors apprentice for a time until Leia saved him from the darkside with love.

The sith/Jedi power dynamic is analogous to real world martial arts, to westerners seen most readily in eastern martial arts movies, and what I believe is the basis for Lucas' inspiration. There have been many stories of how power comes easier for those using brute force and channeling anger into each strike, overwhelming with aggression. Almost all eastern movies teach the lesson of the "hero" over-coming with selflessness and letting go of all emotions, thereby becoming a pure warrior. It's true, anger clouds judgment and can be exploited. The One shows this dynamic well, with the hero moving like water instead of stone.

What novel is this from?

Nothing is more powerful than love.

You should hear what HK-47 has to say about love.

Revan is my favorite SW character. Awesome video to you and your team.

May the force be with you my friends

It's upsetting that The Mandalorian Season 2 retconned Luke's thoughts and basis on Jedi not having attachments and connections in his new Jedi Order. Including not training Grogu if Grogu held on to his attachment to Din Jarin. Disney seems to be straying away from Legends canon more and more.

We need an alternate timeline where Anakin is trained by Qui-Gon... I think his "Living Force" approach his very close to Revan's beliefs...

If Kennedy is able to put her pettiness aside enough to bring young Luke into any of the newer shows, I predict they're going to retcon things and it'll be Grogu (I had to go back and use the right name, I initially confused the name of Rogers homunculus Rogu from American Dad) and it'll be his love for his now father Mando that gives him the epiphany that the connection is a good thing. Maybe allow for a Mandalorian Jedi perhaps?

Your allowed attachments to your master, your apprentice, and for fellow Jedi that had the same master as you. Attachments where you would put the individual first before the Jedi.. cue family and friends

Man i miss the EU sometimes. Thank you very much for this videos. The depth given to them and the aspects explored are something none of the official media will touch.

Lucas said the dark side wasn't stronger. A light side user has always defeated a dark side user. Only reason they seem more powerful after Bane is the rule of 2. They are the 2 best users of their side, where you have average light side users going against the best. When its the best of the light side that fights, they have always won. When there were 1000's of Sith vs. Jedi, it was fairly even matched all the time. You see this in the old republic time, even during Revan's time.

i didn’t realise Revan was from 3000 years ago. thought it was only a few hundred. that makes Ezra being his descendant even dumber, i really hope thats retconned soon