Why SHOULDN'T we support zoos and their conservation work? 

It’s jail for innocent animals

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@@VeganV5912 were socialists, like mussolini, the communist party of china was created in france, in Shangaï by socialists. Far right, doesn't exist.

You pretty much cover all of the things that i think about as i evolve as a vegan, the unethical veganism thing where so many people call themselves vegan but they arent actually and now the zoo thing Next it would be great to talk about pets, pets are unethical unless adopted since they are bred and sold as products, stealing babies from their parents over and over, i killed so many pet fish as a child and i could simply get a refund for them, their lives did not matter unfortunately Ultimately the goal is to not have any pets left to adopt after we stop breeding them

I like to use a similar argument with dinosaurs. Dinosaurs have been extinct for 65 million years and yet kids are always excited to learn about them, view them in museums and if you presented photos, even most adults would have no problems recognizing different species. Most people probably know as much about a giraffe as they do a t-rex. Captivity for entertainment sake is purely selfish and unnecessary.

@@AB-ft7ng this is why I view museums as the second best alternative to zoos or aquariums besides sanctuaries, I’d argue museums are even more educational than zoos because people aren’t focused on looking at the exhibit as much so they may be more akin to reading about it instead.A skeleton of a Tyrannosaurus Rex isn’t moving around as opposed to a giraffe in the zoo so people generally just gawk at the animals and don’t bother learning about them anyways and instead just munch on popcorn

Many zoos use the charismatic animals (big cats, African animals, bears, apes, etc) to fund conservation for less likeable animals, (toads, insects, bats, salamanders, snakes) which people are less fond of. I disagree with the conditions many animals are housed in in zoos, but I do believe they're an important part of conservation efforts. They should absolutely do better though.

If zoos hadn’t built that connection to nature in general among kids, I kinda think people would absolutely give zero fucks about whales

@@Limemill The question to ask then is if zoos are the only thing that gives kids or people a connection to nature?

There are MANY lessons people should have learned from COVID that didn't. It's very disappointing.

So did I!

You overestimate people...

I think we should be very careful about comparing spending quality time in our beautiful homes with the horrific experience of being caged for your whole life.

@@expertphotoart9308 very true- I just hoped that maybe people would make the connection. Sadly not

i have a similar memory of the elephants. i thought it was hilarious at the time- i was with my aunt who is super judgmental and germaphobic as hell, and she always treated me like i was repulsive. so we're eating dipping dots next to the elephant exhibit, and all of a sudden they start throwing poop at each other- picking it up with their trunks and hurling it in the other's direction. my aunt had a complete meltdown because of the smell, but me and my cousin were cracking up. i still think its funny that my aunt didnt get to eat her dipping dots, especially now that im vegan. but all those happy memories are tainted by the fact that the animals were showing clear signs of distress and suffering, and my oblivious ass was having the best days of my life. i dont blame myself, i didnt even know "vegan" was a word at that point. but its so horrific to think about it that way. every time my family tries to talk me into going to the zoo, its all i can think about

What's the problem with bird rescue centres ?

@@debbied.9763 It probably depends on the country entirely. I visited a local one recently and all the birds were thriving there.

@@debbied.9763 Maybe wild birds in small enclosures? Not being with a flock? Idk

when i was little, i saw a travelling elephant, that soon after became the last circus elephant as the nz government made it illegal. she was taken and sent to a zoo a few months after i saw her. just a few years later, at the zoo she was sent to because of the ban, she crushed a worker to death in her trunk. she was surrounded by an electric fence in that zoo, and it is theorised that she got shocked, then out of panic tried to protect the worker (who entered to calm her down when she shouldn't have, but was fatigued from overwork) but accidentally crushed her chest by grabbing her, then rolling her head on the ground with the worker in her trunk, the weight suffocated the woman. it turns out that the elephant had ptsd and constant panic attacks. shows the pure cruelty that led to the tragedy. luckily, the zoo saw the elephant as not responsible, and she wasn't killed. just 4 years after that attack, she died in san diego zoo, which is where she was sent after the attack. a sad life, and sad death due to human cruelty.

Then she goes, “propaganda “

Yeah. My mom had me go to a rodeo with here I think about 1 year, and a half ago. I thought it would be an opportunity to educate her, and then she refused to believe taking a calf by the horns, and throwing it to the ground with full body strength, and then tying it’s legs together with some rope was painful. It’s really quite sad that people just don’t care for others. We have been in this state of apathy for far too long. We really need to start putting ourselves in other people’s(animals are people, too) shoes.

@@AxelBertilDahlstrom That sucks, no empathy. Btw, do you know if Safari Parks are also bad?

@@atti_odyssey Some safaris are like sanctuaries, and others allow hunting, and abuse. They are better than zoos, and aquariums to an extent. Also the animals become to the point where they cannot survive the wild as well. They also risk disease transferred from people.

@@AxelBertilDahlstrom hmmm, thanks

Just like in the slave days...

@@jessievans2405 lmao there is still slaves today, something tells me your thinking about one specific small example.

You really might be onto something

@@servesyourightformuscat1219 yes, I was referring to that time of TransAtlantic slave trade. And for the human trafficking that goes on today, at least they have the decency to hide it. And at least, our governments evolved just enough to abolish and illegalize it.

Infanticide in elephants would more likely be due to post traumatic stress disorder which elephants have been know to display. Personally I don't feel like elephant's should be in captivity because of how problematic they are in captivity. The only reasoning I could argue is that they would be useful to study stress behaviour and see if any of the research could be applied to wild elephants that experience stress from poaching

Marius the giraffe is well explained from the director of copenhagen zoo at the time, Marius is a genetically common giraffe, the animal collections which offered to take marius in got denied because the director felt as if the spaces offered could have been taken up by a more genetically diverse giraffe, which in turn creates a more healthy genetic population instead of creating a bottleneck genetic pool. Plus marius got fed to the big cats at the zoo, how is this any different to a horse or cow being culled for being fed to the big cats? both the cow and giraffe has equal intrinsic value, why is there not an uproar of the millions of cows slaughtered every year but instead to one individual giraffe?

@@johnho9546 bruh how the fuck are you possibly defending shooting a giraffe, in a zoo, by zookeepers.

@@kevinsaviro2708 Because if you want a healthy genetic pool in this species, then culling can be essential to prevent inbreeding depression which results in unhealthy population for the future. Culling marius isn't pleasent, I also like giraffes, but what different was this to shooting a cow to be fed to a lion?

@@johnho9546 you dont need to shoot it in front of the public though

@@johnho9546 maybe because a giraffe is an endangered species, and even if they aren’t a suitable spouse I don’t see the need to murder them, imagine if the same standard was applied to humans.

Good summation

Wildlife conservation groups are mostly comprised of HUNTERS.

A university in my country is starting a zoo in the kampus. I hate it. We are campaigning against it bit who know what will happen

A good summarization of the cherry picked lies that this guy is feeding y’all lol

@@harveyplantharvester1502 Yeah, and I’d argue hunters care more about the natural world than anybody else lol. Not to be confused with poachers which is entirely different xoxo

definitely gonna steal that last sentence. powerful

@@cherch4625 feel free to " steal " it 😂. Yes Its powerful because at one time you were lied to and after that you have awakened and can see the truth

Well, couldn’t confinements of farm animals also be considered such prisons? Except I guess that all prisoners there are abused even more and are on a death row…

@@makarios5946 not really since In animal agriculture animals are enslaved for short period of time and the purpose is different than a prison. But all these innocent beings as you said are on death row without doing anything wrong

Well said. I feel the exact same!

His videos are top notch in every aspect it's wild

Yeah not like the extremes

When you’re extreme You make everyone in your group and your cause a joke.

Alan’s he does all this and still manages to be a hypocrite.

@@peterbigo9951 how? You can't make such a claim and then just leave without evidence.

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Sure, but I think the birds would rather fly miles free anytime THEY want. Just watch a documentary, no need to lock up the animals unless they can't be released.

@@wolfiemix if a person never works with a bird of prey that is kept for education, how will they know how to help a wild bird of prey that’s injured? Having hands on experience with an educational raptor could help someone get trained to be able to help raptors that need rehab.

@@wolfiemix most raptor centers only keep injured birds (limbs/wings that are amputated, eye problems, neuro problems) or have been imprinted (where they bond to humans and can never be released). These birds can’t live in the wild, they will die.

@@wolfiemix They will be dead if they are released since most of them are bred in captivity and has no experience of surviving in the wild , that’s why training is needed before releasing

The year before I went vegan I visited the local (very small) zoo in my new city, and was heartbroken seeing the seal exhibit with three of them in a pool smaller than the swimming pool I grew up with. One was going in circles and another was just staring at a concrete wall floating in place. That's when I knew I was done.

@@vegronica9006 Never nice to see, fair play for going Vegan and aligning your ethics to actions!☘💚

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maybe because they fed the bear a vegan diet..

I hope the guy that shot and dismembered the giraffe gets kidnapped.

Hypocrite

@Assassin 9958 found another cult drone

About how great they are lol

@@AM-tb4fn educate yourself instead of being extremely gullible

@@alipetuniashow why don't you educate urself first?

They do be tasty tho

Yes. We're meant to be in much more tribal conditions

Yes and then let the children out to be free too. 🙏

they should show all of Ed's videos in schools! they're so good.

Absolutely

They should put it in front of zoos while pople are coming in the zoos.

It’s too bad one of the first field trips they take school children is to a zoo... either that or a supermarket

If there is a donation page for your cause please let me know

I just subbed to your YT. I have a series called Vegans across the World, on my channel. I interviewed Nataly (the AV Organizer for Guaynabo) and we talked about that zoo. I also just interviewed Georges Hayek (Lebanese Vegans) and he was talking about working on shutting down their zoo, in Lebanon. Please watch those if you can! I think you all might be able to strengthen your campaigns if you strategize, together? Thank you for battling the zoo!

@@trashcarcass Very cool! Happy to have you. I'll be dropping a HUGE video tomorrow on which I've been working on for a week. Nataly is great. Wish I could go cubing more often!

its definitely not

Then they’re not vegan.

The more I realize how many people don't care, the more depressed and hopeless I feel. It is encouraging though to know how fast veganism is growing🌱💕😘

@@AdelineCowgirl Same here...

My thoughts and feelings precisely.

His whole channel is built upon this "coming of end" idea that many of us are very sensitive to. It is your everyday sensationalism as we see, say, with Greta Th. and so on. Pick something, make a one-sided end of day report on it and get views. That being said, I am not dismissing his infos completely but I also don't agree with much of what he has to say, just from a common sense point of view or as someone who just happens to know about the other side of the coin.

Oh well… in a 100 years climate change has us all killed. Just 100 years and animals have to suffer no more. The sad part is, they will die due to climate change as well.

At least the ducks are free.

Today's people are like zombies, they don't know who they are, Who is their Supreme Father, what they do here, where will they go soon, no any important thing of life they know, they threw that piece of bread to the swans and ducks and instantly, they forgot that they threw it.. Poor they...

And probs the same people who got sick of being stuck at home. That was all of us

Weird equivalence. Anytime I've told someone not to feed ducks bread they thank me for the information.

Just because it’s not very nutritious for them doesn’t mean you shouldn’t feed them, we all eat stuff we shouldn’t. What’s the difference.

in well managed zoos animals have huge naturalistic areas and do pretty well.

There have different type of zoos in the world. I have seen several bad zoos in my travel. They can fall into two camps. Some zoos are bad though commercial ‘penny pinching’ and some are bad though ignorance (Dickinson, 2022). Fortunately, These zoo are changing and fewer and fewer exist nowadays. Closing zoos or not going to zoos may not be the best solution. The main solution is education. Zoos and aquariums have the opportunity to educate the public and inform them the plight of the animals in their original habitat and instill wildlife appreciation sense. We can not deny that zoos have do a lot of animal conservation.The animals can be ‘parked’ at the conservation zoos until they have ability to return back to the wild or have a chance survive in the natural environment (Science Daily, 2011).Every year the World Association of Zoos and Aquarium’s members have spend roughly US$350 million on conservation projects on the wild (Wild Welfare, n.d.). Additionally, Los Angeles Zoo and San Diego Zoo have strengthen endangered California condor population after 10 years working (Dickinson, 2022). Beside, to ensure survival for many threatened and endangered species in the planet, Association of Zoos and Aquariums (AZA) participate in Species Survival programs. For example, reintroduction programs, captive breeding, public education etc (Bove, 2021).

So, you're pissed that conservationists are making money?

William Oscar Garvin: the problem is the animals don't have freedom because of the hunters killing them. That's why now people are keeping them in zoos to keep them safe from the hunters And if we didn't , I guarantee we We'll never get the chance to see the animals which I think that will happen And what do you have to say about that And what do you think about that.

Don’t beat yourself up. When you know better, you do better. 😊

You really are delusional, educate yourself on zoos and facilities before making dumb statements

WilliamOscarGarvin:guess what Even if animals get depressed, but guess what One thing I don't realize is that there already been hunted out in the wild by the poachers, if it wasn't forther zoos.I guarantee if we don't see animals alive todayWell, guess what? Even if animals get depressed, but guess what? One thing I don't realize is that there already been hunted out in the wild by the poachers, if it wasn't for the zoo I guarantee we don't see animals alive today So is that the way we want that to happen and release them out back out of the wild.

William Oscar Garvin: plus animals will be extinct out the wild anyway, if it wasn't for people putting them in the zoo. So I guess that's the way we are going to go that way, allowing hunters to Hunt them if that's what you people argue about the zoo's being bad for the animals and what do You have to Say about that people. What do you at think about that? What should we do about them hunters

Omg, that's a horrific story.... I can't imagine doing that job either. 😢😢😢

That makes me genuinely sad. Thank you for sharing.

the examples used in this video are cherry picked to show you the worst examples from the shittiest zoos lmao, go to an aza zoo and see how happy the animals are there, how well they’re cared for. don’t let this poison dilute your mind lol

What’s the alternative to zoo’s, there’s no mention in this video. Just pointing out the obvious with no solutions. Dumb video.

@@LeafProductions triggered.

@@peterbigo9951 Sanctuaries?

@@peterbigo9951 Is having an alternative to enjoying looking at animals, really more important to you than the cruelty that happens to them for it? That's extremely selfish and harmful. These individuals deserve to not be exploited just for entertainment, whether there's an alternative or not. The solution is to stop funding them so they shut down.

I feel you. :c

I teared up too

Not all zoos are bad, I know a list of zoos which its animals exhibit normal behaviours as seen in its wild conspecifics. A lot of zoos provide environmental enrichment which help stimulate naturalistic behaviours and increases its activity time budget. Furthermore, I've seen an abundance of zoos which its enclosures are well designed and have done a great job of replicating its wild form. Zoos have come a long way from its first generation of enclosure design of metal bars and concrete floors - these can still be seen in many countries where the main focus of terrible conditions are. But currently, lots of modern zoos have come a long way in their enclosure design in which their as naturalistic as possible and helps meet the behavioural and physiological needs of the animals in its collections.

Zoos do not treat animals in disgusting, degrading, and damaging ways. At least accredited institutions don't. These animals have better care, food, and healthcare than most humans do. They have more room than what is even seen by the public and live very stress-free lives. Studies show that most animals live longer under human care and that they have lower stress-levels under human care. Professional human care! And here is also the thing, there is no wild for these animals! Everyone keeps saying things like 'they belong in the wild', 'put them back in the wild', etc. There is barely a wild to put these animals back into. And if there is, they do! Zoos are responsible for bringing back MULTIPLE species from extinction in the wild. For example, the Guam rail has been extinct in the wild for over 20 years and thanks to accredited zoos, they are back in the wild with a sustainable populations. Same with California Condors and many other species. Of course there are bad zoos, I am 100% for speaking out about places that harm and abuse their animals. But simplifing it into this black and white situation is just wrong.

not all zoos are bad

@@johnho9546 watch the video again. Every good point of a zoo can be done with a sanctuary instead. Zoos are just for human entertainment, exploiting animals

In many conversations I’ve had with people they are always under the impression that zoos operate for the benefit of conservation, or at least it’s the common “justification” they use, propaganda runs deeeep.

@@justroberto5052 How do you think the California Condor and the Guam rail came back from extinction in the wild? How do you think tens of insects and herps came back from extinction in the wild or from being critically endangered? Who do you think has programs to teach farming to people in places where poaching is happening due to people needing to find a way to pay for food for their families? Who do you think takes in animals that were raised in apartments or in bathtubs that could never be returned to the wild? Who do you think takes in injured animals that wouldn't survive another day in their natural environments? Who do you think is basically the only people in the world that actually do something to help animals, their environments, and the ecosystem? Accredited zoos.

@@ipurpleu1668 a lot of that is government run programs.

@@justroberto5052 in zoos. Where else do you think they do it?

@@ipurpleu1668 At national parks and actual legitimate sanctuaries. Facilities built for the wellbeing of the animals, not the entertainment and profit of humans.

Thank you for being vegan, my friend🙏💚

Why are you believing points made by an amateur with no credentials over the biologists, zoologists, and wildlife scientists that work in and with zoos?

@@ipurpleu1668biologists, zoologists and wildlife scientists aren’t saying anything different, they’re just keeping there mouth shut about this topic.

@@ipurpleu1668 There's a really good animal planet show that shows 2 of the many many many many many many good zoos. This video is definitely cherry picking zoos to try and make you think all zoos are bad, ie; " They're killing animals that they considered surplus" is most likely not that true in many zoos, In the show they actively show what a zoo did to transfer animals they couldn't house anymore to a different zoo which put them in a new exhibit where you can still see them today. His book title which I've just learned 'This is Vegan Propaganda (And Other Lies the Meat Industry Tells You) ' pretty much sums up this video ( the first part only ) This guy is just spitting his own ideas with thin facts layered on. Yes zoos like he describes do exist, but he's using data from these zoos to compare it to all zoos, if you stepped foot into the san diego zoo, hell the phoenix zoo and looked at any of the animals they would be happy and content.

Hypocrite

Not only can we use animatronics, we can also use virtual reality.

@Assassin 9958 more cult drone nonsense

@Assassin 9958 nice projection cult drone

@Assassin 9958 more vegan cult insanity

Not really it has a lot wrong Here’s a list I addressed As someone studying zoology, animal behavior, animal husbandry, and welfare you have either misrepresented or downright not given full information on most of the topics of concern you covered in this video. This is disappointing to say the least considering you have such a large platform and people looking to you for accurate perspective . I and going to Andrews some of the topics of conversation brought up and address them in a full light so you as well as the audience can revaluate the conclusions you have drawn here Starting with “zoochosis” which is not even a realistic term to describe stereotypical behaviors as they happen for wildly different positive and negative reasons for various animals it’s not just the same for every species and it’s not just “cause captivity” Have you ever noticed that most animals seem doing these behaviors are in poorly designed or ill structured/outdated habitats, or belong to small for profit zoos that aren’t welfare accredited facilities. It’s because stress related stereotypical behaviors aren’t simply a issue of a animal not in its natural habitat but of poor habitat design. Their are many animals that live lives free of stereotypical behavior in properly designed habitats But shockingly enough many stereotypical behaviors aren’t even necessarily negative. Many stereotypical behaviors are actually associated more with excitement or keepers interaction pacing or running is also behavior synonymous with keeper interaction and yes as I said excitement or even curiosity As for reintroduction and conservation programs and contributions it’s not just the direct conservation programs and reintroduction programs zoos fund directly but the ones they co fund, supply research for, and supply specialist to assist with. Also reintroduction that were either started or contributed by zoos are not rare in fact AZA zoos contribute or aid most of the larger integration conservation efforts the USA participates in As far as education not only are they educating the public, but with education of specialist, and the education value of research they are doing and public resourced made available to larger conservation institutions. As far as lifespans go I will agree not many facilities keep elephants or cetaceans well. In fact only a select few do it anywhere near properly. However have you looked at the captive lifespans for animals such as lions, tigers, bears, primates, and ungulates? They are much higher than wild lifespans some are doubled even tripled. Even with elephants and cetaceans not normally meeting Their wild lifespans in zoos their are many zoos and aquariums that have these same animals exceeding their lifespans under new care guidelines and standards. “Elephants roam large distances in the wild” yes they do, but not as a physics need to exercise, elephants roam to follow seasonal food and water supplies. Areas that have dense food and water supplies have generations of elephants staying in the same smaller area without ever migrating. Also it has been proven that enrichment programs are better for animals physically and mentally than just large spaces. There are elephants in sanctuaries with insanely large areas to roam, and they show more stress related stereotypical behavior than elephants in zoological facilities because of poor enrichment programs. The same goes with cetaceans in sea side sanctuaries and sea pens, many even die due to complication and self harm related to poor mental health due to a lack of enrichment programs. “Elephants are taken from the wild” They have been for zoological facility programs in the US it’s true, but the animals involved were problem males, males taken from games reserves, and females and caves that were seized from the animal illegal trade or separated from their herds. They didn’t just fly in and take random wild elephants most of the animals they took would have died if left were they were As far as inbreeding goes. I can’t speak of the EAZA but the AZA has a dna track and register for all animals they breed. Inbreeding hasn’t been a factor in decades. Same goes to killing animals the AZA doesn’t do this they have locos relationships with sanctuaries when surplus animals are to be had, but normally breeding programs are highly regulated Alter and only done when approved by a board of animal welfare specialist. “Most animals in zoos aren’t endangered” true however many of not all have endangered and critically endangered populations that face local extinction “1$ to a conservation is better than 1$ to a zoo” Not necessarily true or entirely the entire story. When someone buys a AZA zoo ticket they aren’t just supporting conservation organizations the zoos donate to they are funding rescue vet programs, conservation, rescue, and rehab programs the zoo takes on as a independent facility, local research, local conservation, and the education and research he of student biologist, ecologist, vets, and animal behaviorist. Also most of the footage shown here were from smaller or poorly ran facilities. I don’t want to believe this was intentionally manipulative imagery to assist your side of the debate, so I will say this it is on us to advocate for proper zoological and marine zoological gardens. This means not only AZA/EAZA accredited, but welfare accredited facilities, that have open information regarding all rescue work, rehab work, donations to conservation/research, have their own educational programs, conservation programs, and public research, are constantly improving animal care standards as part of their stated mission, and ones who have a legitimate history in doing these things. In short zoos are not what they used to be if you lion at zoos 60 years ago you will see abuse, and exploitation, but that isn’t what the necessarily are today and defiantly not what they hope to be in the future. Be a advocate for improvement, change, and evolution zoos and aquariums are on a decent track and do a lot of good if we can push them to become something h even better and even more than they are now the possibilities are endless Look up the wilds in Ohio they are a sister location of Cincinnati zoo they keep large mammals and carnivores in open sanctuary like conditions, look up Nashville zoo who has some of the best animal care standards for the species they keep in the us including all sanctuaries and zoos. Give Tennessee Aquarium a look they have immense natural environments for even their smallest animals many of their local fish species are in a bio dome that is a Appalachian riverside that has a weather system and seasons, most of their larger animals are rescues, and many of the smaller ones are bred in house for research active programs

Look up how much zoos help insects. Then look up how much guys like this donate to help insects. You will realize that people like him are full of shit.

Stop blindly believing a yt video and do some critical drinking for yourself

Hypocrite

@Anon Anon that’s about as intelligent as it gets from the vegan cult

@Anon Anon 😂

True

Lying to the public*

@@okayum This video is extremely bias and by someone with no authority to be speaking about conservation. Do you really think that bringing back animals, such as the Guam rail and California Condor, from extinction in the wild isn't a good enough reason? Do you think bringing back hundreds of insects and herps came from extinction in the wild or from being critically endangered isn't good enough? Do you think having programs to teach farming to people in places where poaching is happening due to people needing to find a way to pay for food for their families isn't good enough? Do you think taking in animals that were raised in apartments or in bathtubs that could never be returned to the wild isn't good enough? Do you think taking in injured animals that wouldn't survive another day in their natural environments isn't good enough? Every argument in this video was bias. I agree there are terrible zoos in the world and that it's important to target those zoos. However, bashing places that are making a difference hurts them. Zoos, even accredited ones, get little funding and all of it goes back to the animals, education programs, and conservation. We need visitors to make a difference! That is why there is money involved. It's quite sad that you believe points made by an amateur with no credentials over the biologists, zoologists, and wildlife scientists that work in and with zoos.

@@ipurpleu1668 I've been thinking about this all day and yeah you're right, shouldn't have commented

@@okayum nah hes right.

very true

@@ipurpleu1668 Oh wow i agree with you a 100%

All zoos are bad cuz the animals Wana be free. Injured animals can go to a rehabilitation center who only keeps animals who are so sick or injured that they will likely die quickly if released, and try to fix the animals so they can be released. Breeding animals shouldn't be allowed. They don't Wana be locked up. They often do not want their private parts touched. If an endangered animals wants to breed it should be their choice free in the wild, not humans choice. just cuz a species isn't as intelligent doesn't mean it's ok to lock that species up. would u rather be locked in prison for life for your own safety? No. Would u rather live a long life locked in a prison cell, or a short life free? Most probably choose short free life. No one likes being locked up against their will... I prefer they be free than be saved from extinction. Why do u care if they r extincted or not?, Especially if they r just going to sit in a zoo, they arnt benifiting the environment or ecology in a zoo. If putting them in a zoo to protect them from poachers then your going to release them back into the wild, it's better to just protect the wild endangered animals from poachers and from people damageing the animals wild habitat they need to live in the first place. Donate to wild life rangers who do that instead of supporting zoos. Promote veganism cuz animal agriculture is a leading cause of animal endangerment and extinction by farmers taking over and damageing the animals wild habitat and killing endangered animals who may eat their livestock or crops. Don't lock up the victim which is the animal. Lock up the criminal which is the poacher. But many zoos have no intention of ever putting them back into the wild cuz they care about money cuz zoos are for entertainment, plus they sometimes make up excuses like the animal is to dumb or tame torward humans to put in the wild, but it can be trained to live in the wild, there r various cases of people training animals born in capitivity who were socialized to humans to go live in the wild successfully.

@@bvegannow1936 I wouldn’t use ‘farmers take away native animal’s habitat to farm animals’ as an argument to go vegan considering some of the ‘essential’ vegan foods like avocados and almonds are notorious for this.

@@bvegannow1936 zoo can be beneficial like example pandas. Pandas is bad at breeding yet parenting. They breed once 2 year and Give birth 1 offspring. If they give birth twin they only care 1 of it and ignore rest. Without zoo this can drive them to extinction.

To be fair, there are hunters that snuck in a zoo for some trophies a few years ago in France.

@@bvegannow1936 I think you're missing the point here... I understand what you mean about an animal not wanting to mate and reproduce, but if it means the extinction for them not to do so, it must be done to ensure they are there in the long run. And I understand your point of them not effecting the ecology from within a zoo, but the reintroduction of their offspring will effect the environment. Repopulation efforts are already being done for grey wolves, black bears, and mountain lions in missouri to curb the deer population. When humans first fully settled in the area, these large carnivores and omnivores were hunted and displaced. Thus deer have become a pest to us as they arent able to be trimmed down all the way, even with yearly hunting. So, the reintroduction of a species is vital. It is also being done with animals that were bred in captivity but released into the wild. And I think that's a great thing. Not only for the large predators, but for the deer as well. Over population leads to illnesses spreading more easily and famine spreading quickly. Not to mention public safety, especially when it comes to car accidents caused by the deer. So a lower population means the remaining population will be happier. And all of this can happen due to captive breeding programs.

@Sleazy Humanity depends if we are an endangered species or not, if we were bound for extinction at the hands of these robots then yeah. I completely agree not every species needs to be kept in captivity. Orcas, meerkats, anything listed as least concern etc. However the threatened species on this planet are being cut down in swathes, and that is ONLY down to humans. We are at fault for putting animals in the situation where a life in a good and enriching zoo is safer than in the wild

Finally someone who knows what they are talking about

It's obvious like almost all zoo animals are often sad and depressed. So u also think human inmates r not sad and depressed? But even if u can't see that, they want to be free. Just like u would want to be free. If u gave them the choice they would choose freedom. That's all that pretty much matters thats why zoos should be shut down. I've been to zoos, the animals looked depressed. They were large exspesnive zoos. They never encouraged anyone to donate to wildlife chairties. If wildlife chairties are better than zoos, then the zoos shouldn't exist. U don't need a zoo to get people to donate to wildlife chairties. Zoos should just shut down, put their animals in the wild, and if they want they can encourage the public to donate to protect animals in the wild instead. They r loosing habitat mostly cuz animal agriculture. So if u care u should encourage everyone to eat plant based and do so yourself. It's better to just protect them in the wild so they can breed in the wild. The animals don't Wana be locked up and often don't want their private parts touched. U probably wouldn't Wana be locked up with someone u don't Wana breed with who's trying to breed with u. Wild Animals should have the choice if they Wana breed or not in the wild, it should not be the humans choice. Zoos r not nessicary. But if they were it better to just let the animals go extinct. Why not? Animals have been going extinct maybe before humans existed and still r going extincted, yet humans population keeps going up. I prefer they be free than be saved from extinction. Why do u care if they r extincted or not?, Especially if they r just going to sit in a zoo, they arnt benifiting the environment or ecology in a zoo. If putting them in a zoo to protect them from poachers then your going to release them back into the wild, it's better to just protect the wild endangered animals from poachers and from people damageing the animals wild habitat they need to live in the first place. Donate to wild life rangers who do that instead of supporting zoos. Promote veganism cuz animal agriculture is a leading cause of animal endangerment and extinction by farmers taking over and damageing the animals wild habitat and killing endangered animals who may eat their livestock or crops. Don't lock up the victim which is the animal. Lock up the criminal which is the poacher. But many zoos have no intention of ever putting them back into the wild cuz they care about money cuz zoos are for entertainment, plus they sometimes make up excuses like the animal is to dumb or tame torward humans to put in the wild, but it can be trained to live in the wild, there r various cases of people training animals born in capitivity who were socialized to humans to go live in the wild successfully.

Thank you very much I fully agree with you

@@bvegannow1936 How would you identify a depressed or sad animals from the opposite side of a barrier? You see an animal sleeping, it is sleeping. You see an animals resting, it is resting. Animals do not run around all day. They are active when they are hunting, being chased by predators, or, with some species as young, playing around. Besides that, they rest or bond with group members if they are an animal that belong in a group. Also, most animals are active in the morning and when it's chillier out. Most zoos don't even open until 9 or 10 and most guests don't come until noon, when most animals are already having their mid-day naps. Stress-levels of animals in zoos have been studied to be significantly lower than animals in the wild. If they were 'depressed and sad', that wouldn't be the case. And what do you mean 'most zoos don't have any intention to putting them back in the wild'? Accredited zoos have put 100s of animals back into the wild! Hundreds of animals have been saved from extinction due to zoos. Just one example, the Guam rail went extinct in the wild over 20 years ago, but zoos were able to reintroduce them. They became the second bird to ever be saved from extinction in the wild. And there are tens of species of insects and herps that have also been. People just don't care about insect and herps so they don't know about how much zoos are actually helping them and their environments. Are you seriously saying you would rather just have them extinct? And that you don't care? You should care! There is a difference between an animals naturally going extinct and humans forcing them to, which is what is happening with every species of animal in the world. Even animals on the 'least concern' list are still at great risk due to deforestation, agriculture expansion, poaching, pollution, and many other things! Each species on this earth is a part of the ecosystem and affects it, including affecting people. The health of the environment affects humans and the same goes the other way around. You are clearing extremely uneducated. This is the problem with most people today, they don't care about saving the only planet we have!

But they can’t be freed. Idk how it is in Europe but here in the states, zoo animals are all unreleasable

It would be a very hard number to acquire. As a generalization, zoo admission is usually around $30, so if you're ignoring any merchandise, food, or premium ticket sales, it would be about 3% of income.

Ikr, his videos are beyond professional. It feels a huge crew made this.

Not really it had a lot wrong that I already addressed As someone studying zoology, animal behavior, animal husbandry, and welfare you have either misrepresented or downright not given full information on most of the topics of concern you covered in this video. This is disappointing to say the least considering you have such a large platform and people looking to you for accurate perspective . I and going to Andrews some of the topics of conversation brought up and address them in a full light so you as well as the audience can revaluate the conclusions you have drawn here Starting with “zoochosis” which is not even a realistic term to describe stereotypical behaviors as they happen for wildly different positive and negative reasons for various animals it’s not just the same for every species and it’s not just “cause captivity” Have you ever noticed that most animals seem doing these behaviors are in poorly designed or ill structured/outdated habitats, or belong to small for profit zoos that aren’t welfare accredited facilities. It’s because stress related stereotypical behaviors aren’t simply a issue of a animal not in its natural habitat but of poor habitat design. Their are many animals that live lives free of stereotypical behavior in properly designed habitats But shockingly enough many stereotypical behaviors aren’t even necessarily negative. Many stereotypical behaviors are actually associated more with excitement or keepers interaction pacing or running is also behavior synonymous with keeper interaction and yes as I said excitement or even curiosity As for reintroduction and conservation programs and contributions it’s not just the direct conservation programs and reintroduction programs zoos fund directly but the ones they co fund, supply research for, and supply specialist to assist with. Also reintroduction that were either started or contributed by zoos are not rare in fact AZA zoos contribute or aid most of the larger integration conservation efforts the USA participates in As far as education not only are they educating the public, but with education of specialist, and the education value of research they are doing and public resourced made available to larger conservation institutions. As far as lifespans go I will agree not many facilities keep elephants or cetaceans well. In fact only a select few do it anywhere near properly. However have you looked at the captive lifespans for animals such as lions, tigers, bears, primates, and ungulates? They are much higher than wild lifespans some are doubled even tripled. Even with elephants and cetaceans not normally meeting Their wild lifespans in zoos their are many zoos and aquariums that have these same animals exceeding their lifespans under new care guidelines and standards. “Elephants roam large distances in the wild” yes they do, but not as a physics need to exercise, elephants roam to follow seasonal food and water supplies. Areas that have dense food and water supplies have generations of elephants staying in the same smaller area without ever migrating. Also it has been proven that enrichment programs are better for animals physically and mentally than just large spaces. There are elephants in sanctuaries with insanely large areas to roam, and they show more stress related stereotypical behavior than elephants in zoological facilities because of poor enrichment programs. The same goes with cetaceans in sea side sanctuaries and sea pens, many even die due to complication and self harm related to poor mental health due to a lack of enrichment programs. “Elephants are taken from the wild” They have been for zoological facility programs in the US it’s true, but the animals involved were problem males, males taken from games reserves, and females and caves that were seized from the animal illegal trade or separated from their herds. They didn’t just fly in and take random wild elephants most of the animals they took would have died if left were they were As far as inbreeding goes. I can’t speak of the EAZA but the AZA has a dna track and register for all animals they breed. Inbreeding hasn’t been a factor in decades. Same goes to killing animals the AZA doesn’t do this they have locos relationships with sanctuaries when surplus animals are to be had, but normally breeding programs are highly regulated Alter and only done when approved by a board of animal welfare specialist. “Most animals in zoos aren’t endangered” true however many of not all have endangered and critically endangered populations that face local extinction “1$ to a conservation is better than 1$ to a zoo” Not necessarily true or entirely the entire story. When someone buys a AZA zoo ticket they aren’t just supporting conservation organizations the zoos donate to they are funding rescue vet programs, conservation, rescue, and rehab programs the zoo takes on as a independent facility, local research, local conservation, and the education and research he of student biologist, ecologist, vets, and animal behaviorist. Also most of the footage shown here were from smaller or poorly ran facilities. I don’t want to believe this was intentionally manipulative imagery to assist your side of the debate, so I will say this it is on us to advocate for proper zoological and marine zoological gardens. This means not only AZA/EAZA accredited, but welfare accredited facilities, that have open information regarding all rescue work, rehab work, donations to conservation/research, have their own educational programs, conservation programs, and public research, are constantly improving animal care standards as part of their stated mission, and ones who have a legitimate history in doing these things. In short zoos are not what they used to be if you lion at zoos 60 years ago you will see abuse, and exploitation, but that isn’t what the necessarily are today and defiantly not what they hope to be in the future. Be a advocate for improvement, change, and evolution zoos and aquariums are on a decent track and do a lot of good if we can push them to become something h even better and even more than they are now the possibilities are endless Look up the wilds in Ohio they are a sister location of Cincinnati zoo they keep large mammals and carnivores in open sanctuary like conditions, look up Nashville zoo who has some of the best animal care standards for the species they keep in the us including all sanctuaries and zoos. Give Tennessee Aquarium a look they have immense natural environments for even their smallest animals many of their local fish species are in a bio dome that is a Appalachian riverside that has a weather system and seasons, most of their larger animals are rescues, and many of the smaller ones are bred in house for research active programs

how about Conservation International or The Audubon Society?

Animals in zoos are not bored. At least in accredited zoos. One of the main pillars of an accredited zoo is using enrichment, which keeps animals stimulated, both physically and mentally. There is also no evidence that shows animals, with proper enrichment in accredited zoos, 'going insane'. We need to stop anthropomorphizing animals. We see too many people see an animal laying down and claim they are "bored". No, animals just lay down sometimes. Most animals are pretty inactive, even in the wild. If they are not hunting or running for predators, they are usually resting or bonding with their group members. But people think they are more active because we only see the 'active' parts of their lives in documentaries because that's the interesting part. Many animals are also more active in the morning, when the zoos isn't even open yet or when no one is there because the zoo usually gets busy around noon, when most animals are already onto their mid-day naps. The closest thing to 'happiness' we can objectively study is stress levels. And studies have shown that animals in accredited zoos have SIGNIFICANTLY lower stress levels than in the wild. Of course it is not ideal to keep animals in human care, but it's also the only choice. Even though people love to cry about 'putting them back in the wild', there is NO wild to put animals back into. Even all of the 'wild' people see in documentaries in Africa are wildlife reserves the majority of the time, which work with zoos to protect animals and their environments. You should trust science over a random person point-of-view.

Zoos are ethical, well some are. Some aren't this video talks about the bad ones, or Roadside zoos. And applies it to all zoos.

Wow :) That is so cool about Costa Rica :)

Was it a roadside zoo? Please don’t protest the proper ones that actually look after and care for their animals

@@theotheseaeagle They are all technically roadside zoos. Perhaps you didn't watch the video? There are no "proper" zoos/jails for the innocent.

@@trashcarcass I did watch the video and he’s just pointing out the super crappy roadside ones. I have NEVER seen big cats pacing or elephants “dancing”. People put zoos in one box thinking that they are all bad. I’ve been to flipping zoos before and made enrichment toys for the primates when I was younger. All of them were loving life. The whole “elephant calve mortality rates are higher in captivity” is false apart from in roadside zoos, in fact they actually only posses a mortality rate of 25%. Meanwhile in the wild it’s 35% and in roadside zoos it’s 40% mortality rate. And the giraffe incident? Yes that was a massive tragedy, but not all zoos are like that, which is what you supposed “activists” can’t seem to understand. Zoos certainly aren’t ideal, but they are necessary for the preservation of rare or endangered species, and while in the video he did argue that, most of the species in zoos aren’t even endangered, but the thing is, they are on the verge of becoming endangered and are near threatened. It would be nice to see them out in the wild, but at the moment that’s simply not possible. And it’s fine, if you don’t want to go to zoos, but trust me, don’t believe everything told to you in this video

@@theotheseaeagle All the BS you just commented makes me believe you either did NOT watch the FLIPPING video, or perhaps you are just too dense or human supremicist to comprehend. I happen to live up the street from where Harambe was killed. Zoos exist for REVENUE, first and foremost. And btw, bees don't make honey for you, either. Leave them the f*ck alone!

@@trashcarcass “human supremacist”? Let me spell it out real clear. I’m an animal lover, I’m fascinated by insects, birds, reptiles, mammals sea life. And I care about our environment greatly. I don’t have anything wrong with vegans, I think it’s perfectly fine if you people don’t want to eat eggs or meat or honey or dairy etc, but don’t force your beliefs onto other people, and don’t go believing all the propaganda about zoos. Yes it was tragic that Harambae was killed, but that was because he had hold of a child. Now I understand he may have been no threat to the child, in fact video evidence even shows he was trying to protect the child from the other gorillas, but how were the people who unfortunately shot Harambae supposed to know? I’m sure they don’t speak gorilla right? They were simply following what they had been told to do. I’m sure they didn’t want to shoot Harambae and were just as gutted about it as the rest of the public was

This video got a lot wrong. A made a list of it as a zoologist As someone studying zoology, animal behavior, animal husbandry, and welfare you have either misrepresented or downright not given full information on most of the topics of concern you covered in this video. This is disappointing to say the least considering you have such a large platform and people looking to you for accurate perspective . I and going to Andrews some of the topics of conversation brought up and address them in a full light so you as well as the audience can revaluate the conclusions you have drawn here Starting with “zoochosis” which is not even a realistic term to describe stereotypical behaviors as they happen for wildly different positive and negative reasons for various animals it’s not just the same for every species and it’s not just “cause captivity” Have you ever noticed that most animals seem doing these behaviors are in poorly designed or ill structured/outdated habitats, or belong to small for profit zoos that aren’t welfare accredited facilities. It’s because stress related stereotypical behaviors aren’t simply a issue of a animal not in its natural habitat but of poor habitat design. Their are many animals that live lives free of stereotypical behavior in properly designed habitats But shockingly enough many stereotypical behaviors aren’t even necessarily negative. Many stereotypical behaviors are actually associated more with excitement or keepers interaction pacing or running is also behavior synonymous with keeper interaction and yes as I said excitement or even curiosity As for reintroduction and conservation programs and contributions it’s not just the direct conservation programs and reintroduction programs zoos fund directly but the ones they co fund, supply research for, and supply specialist to assist with. Also reintroduction that were either started or contributed by zoos are not rare in fact AZA zoos contribute or aid most of the larger integration conservation efforts the USA participates in As far as education not only are they educating the public, but with education of specialist, and the education value of research they are doing and public resourced made available to larger conservation institutions. As far as lifespans go I will agree not many facilities keep elephants or cetaceans well. In fact only a select few do it anywhere near properly. However have you looked at the captive lifespans for animals such as lions, tigers, bears, primates, and ungulates? They are much higher than wild lifespans some are doubled even tripled. Even with elephants and cetaceans not normally meeting Their wild lifespans in zoos their are many zoos and aquariums that have these same animals exceeding their lifespans under new care guidelines and standards. “Elephants roam large distances in the wild” yes they do, but not as a physics need to exercise, elephants roam to follow seasonal food and water supplies. Areas that have dense food and water supplies have generations of elephants staying in the same smaller area without ever migrating. Also it has been proven that enrichment programs are better for animals physically and mentally than just large spaces. There are elephants in sanctuaries with insanely large areas to roam, and they show more stress related stereotypical behavior than elephants in zoological facilities because of poor enrichment programs. The same goes with cetaceans in sea side sanctuaries and sea pens, many even die due to complication and self harm related to poor mental health due to a lack of enrichment programs. “Elephants are taken from the wild” They have been for zoological facility programs in the US it’s true, but the animals involved were problem males, males taken from games reserves, and females and caves that were seized from the animal illegal trade or separated from their herds. They didn’t just fly in and take random wild elephants most of the animals they took would have died if left were they were As far as inbreeding goes. I can’t speak of the EAZA but the AZA has a dna track and register for all animals they breed. Inbreeding hasn’t been a factor in decades. Same goes to killing animals the AZA doesn’t do this they have locos relationships with sanctuaries when surplus animals are to be had, but normally breeding programs are highly regulated Alter and only done when approved by a board of animal welfare specialist. “Most animals in zoos aren’t endangered” true however many of not all have endangered and critically endangered populations that face local extinction “1$ to a conservation is better than 1$ to a zoo” Not necessarily true or entirely the entire story. When someone buys a AZA zoo ticket they aren’t just supporting conservation organizations the zoos donate to they are funding rescue vet programs, conservation, rescue, and rehab programs the zoo takes on as a independent facility, local research, local conservation, and the education and research he of student biologist, ecologist, vets, and animal behaviorist. Also most of the footage shown here were from smaller or poorly ran facilities. I don’t want to believe this was intentionally manipulative imagery to assist your side of the debate, so I will say this it is on us to advocate for proper zoological and marine zoological gardens. This means not only AZA/EAZA accredited, but welfare accredited facilities, that have open information regarding all rescue work, rehab work, donations to conservation/research, have their own educational programs, conservation programs, and public research, are constantly improving animal care standards as part of their stated mission, and ones who have a legitimate history in doing these things. In short zoos are not what they used to be if you lion at zoos 60 years ago you will see abuse, and exploitation, but that isn’t what the necessarily are today and defiantly not what they hope to be in the future. Be a advocate for improvement, change, and evolution zoos and aquariums are on a decent track and do a lot of good if we can push them to become something h even better and even more than they are now the possibilities are endless Look up the wilds in Ohio they are a sister location of Cincinnati zoo they keep large mammals and carnivores in open sanctuary like conditions, look up Nashville zoo who has some of the best animal care standards for the species they keep in the us including all sanctuaries and zoos. Give Tennessee Aquarium a look they have immense natural environments for even their smallest animals many of their local fish species are in a bio dome that is a Appalachian riverside that has a weather system and seasons, most of their larger animals are rescues, and many of the smaller ones are bred in house for research active programs

@@themotions5967 Your a zoologist so your point is automatically biased. I will listen to anyone but you, a person contributing to animal abuse and exploitation. You like zoos, so of course you'll defend it. Ugh

@@wolfiemix Zoology (zoologists) is the study of animals, both alive and extinct, in regards to their biology and the way they interact with their environments. The word "zoo" means "animal" in Greek, which is where the term is derived from. It's a broad branch of biology that covers animals in general, not just animals in zoos.

@@catatomiccomets8246 Sure, I get that, but they still believe in locking up poor animals in cages for human entertainment.

@@wolfiemix Zoos are responsible for bringing back MULTIPLE species from extinction in the wild. For example, the Guam rail has been extinct in the wild for over 20 years and thanks to accredited zoos, they are back in the wild with a sustainable populations. Same with California Condors and many other species. Of course there are bad zoos, I am 100% for speaking out about places that harm and abuse their animals. But simplifing it into this black and white situation is just wrong. Why are you trying to fight against the ONE thing in the world that is actually making a change for animals and their environments?

The species that live longer in zoos are typically those with a short life span, high reproductive rate and high mortality in the wild. Species with a slower pace of life (i.e. a long life span, low reproduction rate and low mortality in the wild) benefit less from captivity in terms of longevity; in such species, there is probably less potential for a reduction in mortality. Besides that, it was mentioned in the video how they are medicating animals due to the intense stress of the supposed "wellbeing" that is being given to them by the zoos. I would argue that saying "longer _and_ healthier" is not really accurate considering mental health is more complex than the simple removal of threats in lieu of a sanitised and caged environment. I think also the main reason Ed focuses on these animals, is because those are the ones which attract the most people to zoos, and the footage speaks for itself.

@@cornsockgabz certainly, but claiming zoos deny an animal mental health ignores all the ways good zoos address this through variousforms of enrichment and exercise. Not to mention all the stresses of life in the wild that animals in zoos don't have to deal with.

Is keeping an animal in a cage justified because you can be educated about them? Would you want to be in a cage?

@@straberryshinigami15g97 did you lit not read anything I just said? The first paragraph: they are RESCUED animals from people’s homes & so-called ‘acceptable’ zoos where they’re treated poorly & have tiny enclosures with poor quality nutrition and no stimulus. obviously you need to do your research better. There are thousands of monkeys in monkey world in England where they were rescued from being beach photographer’s assistants & made to take pics with tourists & wear stupid clothes & treated like crap, then they are rescued & go to the sanctuary where they are basically in a smaller version of their natural habitat & they’re properly cared for by people who acc love animals

go to zoos they save animals

@@antipetaassociation4279 did you watch the video?

@@avalon7531 yes it skims over a lot of information

Animals in captivity are lies and propaganda for children but torture and death for the animals.

Not all zoos are bad, I know a list of zoos which its animals exhibit normal behaviours as seen in its wild conspecifics. A lot of zoos provide environmental enrichment which help stimulate naturalistic behaviours and increases its activity time budget. Furthermore, I've seen an abundance of zoos which its enclosures are well designed and have done a great job of replicating its wild form. Zoos have come a long way from its first generation of enclosure design of metal bars and concrete floors - these can still be seen in many countries where the main focus of terrible conditions are. But currently, lots of modern zoos have come a long way in their enclosure design in which their as naturalistic as possible and helps meet the behavioural and physiological needs of the animals in its collections.

@@harveyplantharvester1502 You really need to take normal pills, 'cause you're not well.

@@revolution1237 Oh, yes, being normal means having no empathy for other sentient beings. Oops, I just described a psychopath.

@@harveyplantharvester1502 Well, I'm certainly not, but I'm sure you are, though tbh, you and I don't know each other.

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Abuse tho Hypocrite

Aka a cult dictatorship

If you do enough research you could probably find a zoo that is not terrible for the animals and take her there. Some animals can deal with captivity better, and going to zoo's with animals from the area or at least climate you're in would help. Researching more about how much space the animals get and what the conditions are could end up finding a great zoo. Even if the vast majority of zoo's are terrible, especially in situations where they're trying to keep large tropical animals in small cold cages, you'll never know if you don't try and find out.

I'm a fellow southerner. What is it with our zoos down here and unexplained mass death?

I know the zoo your referencing it wasn’t all the reptiles it was 10 snakes specifically that were in off habitat care room. It was also revealed that it was a malfunction in the ventilation system that caused this to happen really suddenly. Not to mention had seen first hand each of those animals get thousands in vet care efforts to try and help them as well as the people who cared for them crying Not to mention they have currently built. One of the best reptile and amphibian care facilities in the US. And the zebra was young, and you would be surprised it is actually common for younger animals when playing to accidentally Injure themselves sometimes severely. Not to mention from all this the zoo your referencing is a AZA non Profit that works specifically with a lot of elderly and special needs animals.

malfunctions happen animals get into accidents in the wild too

Maybe tell them why would they think it's beautiful to see innocent animals locked in a little cell when they Wana be free?