Why Some Animals Can't be Domesticated 

Drew Martin search up wojtek. Wont be disappointed

I don't know if they don't have reproduction issues in captivity but they do check the entire list except for maybe the fact they can crush your skull, a small omnivore elephant perhaps?

The bear will disuade you

*dissuade

Drew Martin yesssss I want war bears

Fuck off. :(

Quizzical Zebra hey man, just restating.

"We're top chicken" -CGP grey

"Pain In The Ass Animal" More like "Pain In The Ass Ass"

+TheParadox1010 Yeabest Part😂😂😂😂

cats are cool too. cats bring you food and other stuff they hunt. for ex, you may notice that cats who hunt birds or mice or even rabbits, will occasionally leave it on your shoes or something. also, cats are excellent at keeping pests away, thus making the house hold more hygienic. agricultural societies in general love cats, because cats keep rodents away from their crops.

@@itsMe_TheHerpes dogs can do everything but better

@@indian_otaku2388 I love dogs but that's not true. They're much, much worse at taking care of themselves for example.

i mean dogs are still used for a complex workfoce, as a Police Dog, Shepherd dog, Service dogs. see, Service dogs, because of their incredible sense of smell, are even trained to measure your blood sugar level and alert if its go up or down

Some dogs are even bred for meat.

"I *am* the one who pecks!" - Winnebago White

@@cdcdrr heisenberg

It's my favorite part

I really want that to be a t-shirt

Currently suffering from covid and depessed but this is the first sentence to make me chuckle the last several days 😅

fitting and on point.

no it means "Demon donkey"

either way it's great

Closer to wild but yeah still correct

I’m a savage

And their dayjob. Don't forget trheir dayjob.

@@7shinta7 well humans glorify tigers day jobs

@Harrison Leon Tigers don't care about fingers, they'll take the jugular, eat your juiciest parts and then leave most of you for scavengers.

@@Broockle Fascinating.........

Cats would eat us if they could.

Good one,good one :))) .I actually giggled at this :D ;) .

I will never look at them the same.

Andrew Lipscomb Nope

Dukker Jammish 😂excellent 😂😂

*Prison uniform

yeah and zebras were actualy tamed and somehwat domesticated by german colonial officials during the 19th century

@@patriciusvunkempen102 no they actually weren’t some what domesticated by German officers

Excuse me, as a pony I can assure you zebras are really different. We have freindship, harmony, built castles for our princess while they still have not found out how to even build a bridge not to get aten by crocodiles. Or lions.

Stop trying to make domesticated zebra happen; it's not going to happen.😉

I have access to old black and white pictures of zebras pulling carts in South Africa will make a video soon

I like foxes but Grey Wolves would be more useful because of their size.

Foxes are domesticated in the 20th century. It's a time when we had enough technology and resources to capture any kind of animal. When we were hunter-gatherers, we didn't have the technology to trap any significant number of fast-moving animals which we cannot outrun. Also, wolves weren't trapped by humans and tamed, they too just happened to follow us like cats, but, because they were social animals, they trusted us more and were eventually domesticated, foxes aren't as brave as wolves to follow humans, and they also aren't as social as wolves to be domesticated by Hunter-gatherers. With today's technology, we can even domesticate Tigers and Lions, we just need to take some Tigers or Lions from Zoo, make them socialise with humans from an early age and make the friendlier Tigers breed with eachother and do that for a couple hundred years. You'll have Domestic Tigers and Lions. Although, I think Lions would become domesticated before Tigers, simply because of their social nature. We cannot expect Hunter-gatherers to be able to do the same things.

Kitsune may disagree.

We could domesticate any animal with enough time, technology and breeding, but this video is about what prehistoric humans were capable of doing.

@@user-pakshibhithi10 foxes follow humies all the time, they know that if they act all cute, we'll feed them

"Zebras are bastards"

...and a Tiger's day job is murder

Wow ok r00d

"We're top CHICKEN."

which is why our tiny tigers don't mind eating us if we happen do die in proximity to them.

😅

@@EO-jr7li Dude, wtf?

jonathan smith you’re acting offended, when all I did was state facts.

I would totally buy a shirt with that message. This is coming from a vegetarian btw.

A somewhat ominous statement

Who domesticated whom? Domesticated - brought under control in order to provide food, power, or company - able or willing to do cleaning, cooking, and other jobs and to take care of offspring 🙂

I don't think they're domesticated

@@zeff8820 they have been changed for better human use although not perfectly yet.

​@@zeff8820 they aren't fully domesticated but they're a lot more tame than similar tame foxes in America. The domesticated Russian fox has more dog traits such as droopier ears and more fur variation. They're not as domesticated as the dog, but the point of the research is to understand how domestication worked.

Even their appearance began to change and they started to look more like dogs. It was not done deliberately. Amazing how nature develops new species.

​@@Cissy2cute when the survival pressure of camouflage dissapears, domesticated animals all have very different colours from the wild ones, donkeys and dromedaries being exceptions.

So you mean after beer was invented?

Mattias Dahlström Less beer more *Prehistoric Alcohol*

Nonono. Guy: "would you like to see my wood carvings tonight? They're in my tent" Girl: "If you get me a horse and ride it first" Guy:....!

It’s quite plausible. Rodeo was probably one of the first sports of mankind.

Horses were in fact used for millennia before riding them became their foremost job. Before that they were used to pull things, like chariots. And they were much much smaller in their first, original iteration.

This comment made my evening 😂

Thats why you gotta send all the bears before winter

except in ancient times winter season basically meant fighting is over , try to move your army in winter season , lots of snow , plants not growing fruits , less to hunt , foraging is a nightmare , also winter effecting your soldiers and every body is having shit time so now campaigning in winter is not a good Idea for attacker and defender alike , but war bears in summer will kick most historic army ass all day long

Bears don't actually have to hibernate. They do it, because finding enough food during winter is hard. If you give them food, they'll happily stay awake.

@@illusivec nice fact

He didn't hint at it, he directly stated it. He said they need to be "fecund" which means "extremely fertile and able to produce offspring in abundance"

I adopted a cat from the shelter. Well it was a feral cat. Now i have a 18 pound cat that would have no problem murdering me.

Thats y I dont funk with them. No!

My cat is very kind and never hurts anyone. But keeps meowing all day.

And cats are basically solitary animals. They don't live in herds. If one accepts you as a partner, it is because it was the cat's decision, not yours. They also decide when to play, and when to call it off. Some people like them better than dogs because of cats' independent nature.

👍👍👍

Well, doggos are omnivores :P And they can do quite alot -emotion support -hunt -slead dogs And more stuff . Though I'm personally a cat person

cat kook our dog loved lentels.

@@mslightbulb lentels?

You do not want to go to china

@@martinxy1291 I don't like China

Murder is when you kill your own species. So you liked an inaccuracy.

@@mirsad96 keep being a pedantic bitch

1. Yes, because it was funny. 2. That's not the only definition of murder (check Merriam-Websters). 3. Sometimes they do kill they're own species. 4. While you're on the dictionary website, look up 'hyperbole'.

Your cat is a tiny tiger that lives in your house. I had to pet my kitty when I heard that and call him "Are you my tiny TIGER?! Yes you ARE! YES you are."

@@ragingfurball5419 it's their not they're

+TheJwb7111 "Obviously catching a carnivore is a bad idea anyway because their day job is MURDER..."

SAME

+TheJwb7111 I literally LOLed when he said "We're top chicken".

+OmegaShanic Sneaking up on a gazelle rhymes with LOL.

+TheJwb7111 this video is so quotable!

Thank you for pointing this out. It annoys me when people claim that the herd stallion is the leader.

That's actually an overrated myth. Some wild herds may not have a lead mare, but they will always have a dominant stallion who is in charge and yes, he does bring up the rear and protects the herd, but the lead mare (that is, if they have one) cannot do anything without the consent of the herd stallion. The band can exist without the lead mare, yet they cannot survive without a lead stallion. This is a crucial thing to remember about wild horse herds. The lead stallion is the heart that holds the entire band together, without him, they will scatter and be stolen by other rogue bachelor studs. And people that claim that the herd stallion is the "leader" are absolutely correct. Just speak to any wild horse expert, Mustang enthusiast and photographer. Their dynamics are incredibly fascinating, but I have yet to see a herd without a lead stallion (not including the bachelor herds) and yet there are plenty of wild herds without a lead mare. Lead mare either exists, doesn't or three/four mares share those responsibilities among each other. Lead stallion however, is indispensable and a vital part of the herd survival.

I stand corrected

@@dingusdingus2152 no

That reference 😂 now i understand they do not give a crap about each other

One of the best references around

Except Zebra's *do* have top males within the group. They form the same families as horses.

@@PavarottiAardvark but because the top males live in the same herd, hell Marty will not care if Jack gets eaten.

@@ousamadearu5960 But they don't always live in those big herds. It's mostly a migration thing. So it's entirely possible to identify and catch the lead male

CGP Grey: You're missing something. The current domestication of wild foxes. So far, 90 generations and the project is still going. Lots of implications about domesticating "wild" species we might find useful.

@Chris Kibodeaux that's what your cat wants you to think

@Chris Kibodeaux you are being played!

@Chris Kibodeaux That's how they get you. They pretend to be cute and dumb. But in reality, they're masterminds that get the stupid humans to serve them.

@Chris Kibodeaux Mate, chill, don't gotta get your panties in a twist over this

And what fish shall we eat? I know, lets choose the very top of the food chain, the most intensive carnivores we can find, so salmon, tuna & prawns maybe?

Corn is heavily subsidized by the US government, so there's incentive for people to make as much corn as possible. That's why we use "corn syrup" instead of real sugar as well.

@@visual7150 yup & bio-fuel. It's crazy, cause if cows must eat corn, then the whole plants harvested early as silage is what's best for them & gives them the best growth rates, but those subsidies mean it's more profitable for farmers to grow to maturity & throw away the rest of the plant & just keep the kernels as cow food, even though that loses most of the crop's calorie value when fed to cows & messes with their rumen, that's designed to eat grass not grain

The varieties of “corn” that are fed to cattle are usually not especially edible by humans. Also, the cows are usually just finished on maize for their last month, and eat grass for the rest of their lives.

@@Egilhelmson none of that is true

yes

Me too

@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? you make it sounds like you have ridden an ostrich... or have you?

Chocobos in final fantasy

@Godlysunfury , dont forget to mention about nanobots we added their blood.

+Philip Stuckey Straight up lost it.

+Philip Stuckey There is a cat in the house I live in, I am literally the only person that can pet it. And even then, it will swat me if I stop petting. Crazy buggers.

Chuck Bowen my cat loves me tho

Chuck Bowen she runs toward people and cuddles with them

Clearly not a cat person, this one 😂

its completely incorrect though

@@Szgerlehater

@@kommandokenny12345 Keep crying

They live to kick and bite, they are a PITAA [pain in the ass animal]

Idk that WE ARE TOP CHICKEN comment had me dying

@@jermainebrown8604 same

That quote was at the same video as "WE'RE TOP CHICKEN".

@@katevgrady Just deal with it :] We would be the best footballers though, but instead of a ball, we kick lions.

How does a zebra, orphan, son of a -bleep- and a Scotsman,

I want him to go catch an alpha wolf and watch as its family automatically makes him its leader.

Zebras WERE successfully domesticated by virtually every European country that colonized Africa. They discarded it because the Zebra was not as efficient as the horse, not because it wasn't possible. So that fact kind of blows Grey's theory apart. But if you domesticated Zebras over centuries, the result would be similar to that of any other equine species. The reason this didn't happen in Subsahara Africa is the same reason Europeans and Asians (who also visited Africa centuries ago) never found ANY domesticated animals in Africa; the people who inhabited the region. Subsaharan Africans didn't have the necessary civilization and intelligence to domesticate animals. Look, people have been making excuses for why Africans (and Latin Americans) failed to develop institutions indicative of higher civilization; it boils down to political correctness. But the bottom line is that you can literally domesticate ANY animal (including a human) if you're motivated enough and have the intelligence. The European colonists in SS Africa, for a time, had both the motivation and the intelligence, so they started domesticating the abundant Zebra - before modern transportation allowed them to import and start breeding large numbers of horses and work animals which were stronger, faster, and saved them the work of having to breed generations of Zebra over centuries. The Africans? The Zebra, water buffalo, Jackal (dog), Okapi, Warthog, etc were excellent "raw material" to mold if a civilized (settled) culture could make use of them, and would look very different today if a more intelligent civilization (and people) inhabited the region over millenia (similarly, the "indigenous wild animals" in Europe and Asia would look VERY different today if those regions were originally inhabited by black or brown people. It wasn't for lack of opportunity or potential benefit that black and brown people didn't domesticate ANY animals - it was for lack of the ability to do so.

Grey is a smart guy for the most part, but even he can slip into political correctness, if inadvertently. For one thing, he makes the argument that horses and dogs have a hierarchical structure and thinks this is an "accident". Ummm...no. If they didn't have a controllable or social structure to benefit humans, they'd have been hunted (or slaughtered) into extinction like many other horse and dog breeds in the rest of the civilized world. Literally every farmer and breeder in the world understands that they can control the temperament, social structure, intelligence, etc. of their animals. From shepherd dogs to human parents. A good father, for example, will foster a child and provide incentives and punishments which will motivate (if not coerce) his child to mate with a partner of desired qualities (intelligence, beauty, productivity, etc). There have been beekeepers who've experimented with breeding hives of "laying workers" - which became destructive and unproductive (as expected). What did they do with these dysfunctional hives? They killed them (not that they would have survived long anyway, but better to not let the drones spread bad genetics).

@@Terrekain Fairly sure zebras were TAMED, not DOMESTICATED. Of course that's just what a quick Google search tells me, if you have more evidence I'm glad to hear it.

lol

this is the best comment ever

+Sneaky Zebra well played!

+Sneaky Zebra ha

+Sneaky Zebra I'd prefer to keep all my fingers.

I'M... TOP CHICKEN 0_0

IM TOP CHICKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He had me at: zebras are bastards

PECK PECK PECK

About 47 T-Rexes Now I know where the phrase "establish the pecking order" came from.

Yeah, me too lol!! Cats rule

Animal rules

Kinda cool with a tiny tiger tbh.

D O G S ! ! !

Though to be fair cats were simply pest-contollers that, to better survive around humans, they had to become friendly. Which is an unusual trend in domestication.

yeah xD As if humans don't totally murder animals more than any other things ever in the history of earth hahaha

that's just because theirs so many of us to do the killing

Yeah, but plenty of omnivores moonlight in murder

MarI sabel Our day job is murder too!

David Ndiulor Thats a good line and its true.

Same here

you're gonna chicken out and not buy one

Make sure to send me a link when it gets avalible

you know what I want on a tshirt? "Exploit Family Values"

I want the "a cat is a tiny tiger that lives in your house". That cracked me up.

@@outlanderwraith r/whoooosh

Don't forget Pacifist J and Fluffy 2 Dope, founding members of TCP.

You won't get it

They wouldn't risk having it in a circus near a crowd if it weren't tamed or domesticated.

Pennywise wasn't in a circus that explains a lot.

so cats domesticated themselves

so cats domesticated themselves

Yeah, and thats the reason why domestic cats are the only domesticated animals whose difference from their wilder counterparts is just a change in size. Seriously, look up the wild ancestors of house-cats - african wildcats. You'll be hard pressed to find any difference other than size(and coat colour obviously).

Have you ever heard a mountain lion meow? It's startling the first time you hear it because you are not expecting a "normal" meow from such a large animal.

So what you're saying is, Warrior Cats actually has some basis

Carl Alm or how rats and mice are the only animals domesticated solely for experimentation.

@@pisces2569 like rabbits, some people actually keep them as pets.

Cats will latch on to any friendly large mammal in the vicinity. There are a few stories about horses and cats having a bond.

@@Omnifarious0 Yup. I used to breed miniature horses for show, and had a Siamese-type with a short tail, that used to jump up on my little stud horse, sit up there like he was surveying his kingdom, LOL. He was kind of a weird horse, though--he had an odd relationship with the wild turkey's living down on our creek bottom. They'd come up at feeding time, try to steal the horses' oats, and my little stallion would put on a big show of running them off--the turkey's would congregate just on the outside of the fence, puff up their feathers and put on a show. Hysterical!

We got cats because mice wanted to eat our spare food And cats wanted to eat mice and started being ok with being around humans

And that's how we use them to measure engine output, Horse Power!

@@khaledchowdhury9220 dial up was a way of internet that used phone lines, and if someone was on the phone, you couldn't use the internet.

To be fair, a dude in a truck is the highest bandwidth internet available overland, assuming you fill the truck with large hard disks. *TERRIBLE* ping, but absurdly high bandwidth.

No it wasn't ... Pigeons carrying letters were.

Crazy to think there are still people alive who were born when horses were still a very common mode of transportation. Can you imagine what a pain it would be to have to keep and maintain horses just to go anywhere? I live in a suburb where everything I need is within a 10-15 minute drive, but that’s a heckuva long way to walk. It’s just so weird that we are only a few generations removed from that. Especially when horses were it for all the thousands of years before then.

Yes

Speaking as someone who has chickens, they're 100% not wrong. That's literally the easiest way to manage a flock, especially if you have birds who are of a breed that is typically more aggressive than your average fluffy layer breed. If the dominant rooster respects you, so will the rest of the flock. My current dominant rooster begs for chin scratches, so I'd say we're good.

@@cypheri1339 - The roosters didn't respect me, when I was a little kid collecting eggs for my grandparents. I was scared, but they didn't actually peck or scratch me. But they put on a pretty big show of toughness.

Remember a Chicken is just a small feathered Raptor type of Dinosaur that goes insane when it see blood and will try to kill what ever is bleeding.

@@Delgen1951 thats so true. There ancestor is the T-rex by the way and not the raptor

Wonder if they are gamers.

Even zebras do

Zebras be like: "We don't"

Horsiety

That and breeding control. Most domestic herds only have a handful of males who we adore to breed, and the rest are castrated. To the point where the English language actually has three separate words for pretty much every kind of barnyard animal, a word for the male, a word for the female, and a word for castrated males. Stallion, mare, gelding Bull, cow, ox Boar, sow, barrow Billy, nanny, wether Ram, ewe, wether Rooster, hen, (it's impossible to castrate a rooster)

@@Great_Olaf5 i always thought oxen were a seperate species from cattle

@@wildstarfish3786 Nope, just castrated bulls. I was surprised too.

@@Great_Olaf5 42 years old and i finally find out what an Ox is, thank you!

@@amytysoe2292 No problem.

jim

@@nikhilanandpandit8644 nikhil

Zebras: we DON'T live in a society

Lol

😂😂😂

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@@arya6085 Wut? :O

I think that's what he meant lol

Lmao mate

koalas are retarded

Never forget that koalas are LITERALLY smooth brained.

@Admiral Ackbeard What's that supposed to mean?

No

+NDAIA Yes!

+NDAIA Or in the form of a t-shirt?

+NDAIA make one via www.reddit.com/r/cgpgreymemes/ we are thinking way ahead of you.

+andythepanhead They really do have a sub for anything, I'm incredibly scared now of all the possibilities

Wait, when humans start becoming immortal, they can start domesticating elephants?

And now I'm imagining a fantasy setting where elves have domesticated elephants

@@Deathnotefan97 How about a fantasy setting where elves have domesticated HUMANS?

@@TracinyaLachance Humans are too stupid and high maintenance for elves to bother domesticating them, they'd get a much better return out of elephants Maybe the Dwarves would be up to the task of domesticating humans?

But a beautiful bonsai tree needs dozens of years to shape.......

Man, I was thinking about that historia civilis video Edit: turns out you were talking about wojtek

Few will understand this gem lol

Haha saw that video earlier

I jst saw the video of the artillery carrying bear 😂

Cannon loader bears are the best

Guazuru yeaaas

haggis22 I was just thinking that too.

me too lol I was laughing so hard

sorry..can someone explain what does that means actually?

The chickens fight amongst themselves to see who is the strongest, the top chicken, but in reality humans are top chicken.

The dog hierarchy actually doesn't depend on "alphas" though that term is used prolifically. The term was originally coined by a dude who turned around and realized he was wrong and tried to correct the concept he originally shared, but people were already crazy over the idea of "alpha wolves" and such and didn't listen. Canine hierarchies are more so FAMILY hierarchies. So to be the "alpha dog" means you take the role of the parent dog. You are the one providing food and protection and positive attention. Even better than being an "alpha," you get to have your dog literally seeing you as mommy/daddy. Cats on the other hand don't keep a social structure based on families in that way. Mother cats will actively kick out their kittens once they reach a certain age and will even move to a new territory if the kittens don't go far enough away. They will be social with one another in more of a friendship sense, which is why you will sometimes see whole groups of feral cats in certain areas, and why cats can have good relationships with humans. But, like with human friendships, cats do CHOOSE and trust must be developed. You can't just go to any random person and say "you're my new best friend" and have them be cool with it. Same with cats. It takes time and consistent positive interactions. Eventually after acceptance, cats WILL care about your well being and (if young enough) will create their own language customized to what YOU respond best to. Cats learn different ways to meow and such based on their humans and what they respond to, so your cat does in fact care and pay attention. They will also reciprocate with food offerings and affection, however the relationship continues to be a bond of mutual respect and trust (which can be broken.) A dog sees their bond with a human as being more of a necessity that can't be abandoned just because of maltreatment (seen in dogs who don't run away from clearly abusive situations) in the same way that packs (family units) are maintained generation after generation and are the life source for canines. They have been able to prove that both cats and dogs can and do love their humans (to whatever extent is most true for them) and form deep attachments, however they way they relate to us is quite different. So when your cat treats you as a stupid cat, know that they do it with love because they chose you to be THEIR stupid cat. And know that when your dog treats you as the parent, they do it with love and choose to place their future in your hands.

Basically dogs see as perfect and cats see us for what we really are...

Ya

Beacuzz yay dogs ftw

PreposterousWorld good comment. I enjoyed reading that :)

All i got was, cats are tiny tigers that live in your house

Zebra's are Bastards

How do you doo, fellow top chicken?

Had me at Top Chicken

I lost it at "their day job is MURDER"

I want a warbear

Here you go wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojtek_(bear)

Play kislev.

When I watched dogs lead their owners around I don't think that idea is as true as it should be.

@@danw6014 Yeah dogs don't see us as part of the pack, they know we're different. That's why a dog acts differently when he's playing with another dog instead of a human.

@@henk-3098 actually they can see humans as part of the pack but what I was really getting at is more often than not the dog is the pack leader and not the human. I see it in horses too. They walk all over their owners but I will not allow horses to push on me and I keep the fact that horses are stronger than me a closely guarded secret.

When was the last time you fought a rooster? Chickens go absolutely insane when they see blood and try to kill the one bleeding..True fact.

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That's cruel.

Cursed.

We're top chicken. Try sneaking up on a gazelle, Rhymes with LOL.

"Whereas a cat is a tiny tiger that lives in your house"

You've got to be kidding, elephants, we don't have time for this

*"We're top chicken"*

@@mariaagustinaferrero2333 Such quality lines, I will be quoting this in my daily life out of context

It took mankind a long time to finally figure out how to tame the wild clown. Some say we still haven't quite mastered it.

Finally someone said it and throw in the fact organic is grown in poo or ground up animals

Also progressive

Truth stings!

I think leaving out the chemical process by which pop tarts are made is just ridiculous. I mean I'm not a vegetarian but there's no way that pop tarts and naturally grown fruit are the same thing lmao.

Shawn Granzow I think it was supposed to be a joke.

+porchelana321 Bars or hooves?

Yes.

porchelana321 Of course that means that on the equinet everyone was a brony.

+porchelana321 But imagine how much cooler it would be if we domesticated a different animal. "LOOK! FOUR BEARS OF WIFI!"

Sad Horse Honey Badernet, always four bars ALL THE TIME!

because it's for smooth brains. The ancestor of the cow, the auroch was the size of a buffalo and more aggressive. The ancestor of the modern day horse looked and acted different from what we have today. Thousands of years of selective breeding will do that. It's uneducated excuse making for nationalities who didn't discover animal husbandry.

Grim scythes A cat is a tiny tiger that lives in your house

WE'RE Top Chicken!

I need a shirt that says "My dayjob is MURDER" IK I'm weird

You Forgot “Try Sneaking Up On A Gazelle, Rhymes with lol”

Same

Nah I’m first in the pecking order

No I'M Top Chicken! NOW RESPECT ME!

CLUCK!! CLUCK!! CLUCK!! CLUCK!!

no guys, the Head CEO farmer is top chicken

@Aaron Giles i get it once in a lifetime because u ded but no like 4 u