Why Sub DPS Are The Strongest Characters In Genshin Impact 

to this day, i still hate how Klee's ult stops as soon as you switch

Fischl doesn't trigger Hyperbloom consistently. Oz has a priority for targeting and bloom seeds are the last in that priority list. Thats why Kuki is used as the Hyperbloom trigger.

Imo, hoyo really should release more off-field units. What makes genshin's combat so good is the elemental system and the fact you can switch between units to setup and trigger the reactions. Releasing more off-field units builds on top of that strength.

Support I feel is a little too broad of a term, but it is accurate. I'd normally break the Support group into these subgroups: crowd control, defensive utility, battery, buffs/debuffs. So including the on-field DPS and off-field DPS roles, that's 6 total roles. The best characters are the ones that cover multiple roles. This is what makes Bennett + Xingqiu the best characters in the game. Bennett covers 3 roles of defensive utility, battery, and buffs. Xingqiu covers multiple roles of off-field DPS, defensive utility, and to some extent also as a debuffer (with c2) and a battery, though these last 2 roles mainly see their value in double hydro teams.

actually a lot of the time shinobu isn't in hyperbloom for heling shes there cuz her skill detonates the blooms perfectly every tick while putting electro on enemies every 2 ticks

I much prefer "off field dps" to "sub-dps", because a lot of off-field characters can sometimes be doing the majority of a team's damage. Also, teams based around off-fielders are WAY more interesting and unqiue than teams focused around on-fielders.

"having Qiqi and Noelle would be excessive" that's half of my early game party! I eventually dropped Noelle for Diona but if I needed real healing it was Qiqi to the rescue.

Personally, I hope they create more flexible characters that can function both on-field and off-field. Raiden, Nahida, Sucrose, Ganyu, Ayato, and Kokomi are all good examples of that. I just love when we can invest in a character and make them the star of a team, but they can also function as off-fielders and allow for interesting new team comps even if they're not the best person for the job. On-field characters like Childe, Wanderer, and Alhaitham are really fun to play, but it's a shame that they mechanically play the same way regardless of what supports you pair them with. On the flip side I find characters that exist solely to make 1-2 other characters stronger extremely boring, like Faruzan, Sara, and Gorou.

I think the problem is all down to Xingqiu and Xiangling they set the standard for sub DPS characters by doing more damage from off feild than some characters like Diluc were doing on feild. Thus all future sub DPS including 5 stars like Yelan/Yae had to compete with those damage numbers. Thus sub DPS ended up being the real carry role.

I've noticed opinions slowly change to this over time with some people outright saying they are more interested in off fielders they can use for many different setups with a lot of value over in field dps

There's another type of character called "driver" which is similar to dps because they stay on field for longer period of time but doesn't really do the most damage but increase others damage while still being onfield

If Klee's burst were to work off field, she would probably be considered a much more powerful character than what she currently is, but because it doesn't, it forces her to compete against other on field damage dealers like the ones you stated, making her marginally weak. That is pretty much how powerful the role of sub-dps is. Also, to me you sound fine in this video, if anything, it may sound like someone's first few videos if you listen closely, but it'll still pretty good.

Maybe it’s because yae and Nahida are some of my favorite units but I love off field dps characters a lot and I feel like they help make team building more fun

Here's a comprehensive list of the character roles in Genshin as I understand them, noting that there is a lot of overlap and many characters can fulfil several of these roles: - Main On-fielder: The character that's spending the most time on field, usually driving reactions. (e.g. Keqing, Ayaka, Ganyu, Hu Tao) - Off-Field Enabler: This is a character that can apply their element quickly and effectively from off field, enabling the main on-fielder to execute reactions effectively. Most of the characters that fill this role also fill others, but it's still very important to acknowledge when a character is good at this. (e.g. Shinobu, Kokomi, Nahida, Mona) -Off-Field DPS: Any character than can deal a respectable amount of damage with abilities that persist when they leave the field. Most of the characters that fill this role are also good off-field enablers. (e.g. Raiden, Miko, Xingqiu, Xiangling, Fischl) -Survivability Supports: Characters that help the team stay alive. Includes shielders (e.g. Zhongli, Layla) and healers (e.g. Kokomi, Shinobu, Qiqi) -Damage Supports and Buffers: Characters that enhance the damage output of other teammates. (e.g. Bennett, Faruzan, Yun Jin, Viridescent Venerer users) Here are other team roles I hear people talk about, but didn't feel were worth including in the list above: -On-Field Enabler: This is a subtype of Main On-fielder that's there primarily for quick elemental application to react with damage from Off-Fielders. This fits entirely within the definition of Main On-Fielder so I left it out for fear of being redundant. -Burst DPS: A special type of On-Fielder that is not meant to take up a lot of field time, instead doing heavy front-loaded damage in only a few seconds. This is a niche role used only when your Main On-Fielder has severely long periods of down time. This was seen much more often in the earlier days of Genshin. However, nowadays, people have come up with much more elegant ways of dealing with a Main On-Fielder's downtime. This isn't something you'll see very often. -Battery: While energy generation can be very important, I left this out because the concept of a "battery" in Genshin is not as cut and dry as the team roles I described above. Whether or not a character can be considered a battery is heavily dependent upon the team they're on. It's very situational, so just know that if a character on your team has trouble with Burst uptime, you may want to pair them with another character of the same element to generate more energy for them. Anemo users can also generate particles for other elements via Swirl infusions such as Kazuha's Skill and Burst. I will reiterate that many characters in Genshin can fill more than one of these roles. So if I used a character as an example for one of them, it doesn't mean that's all they're good for. Feel free to share your thoughts and let me know if I missed something that should be on here.

Another that makes sub dps much more powerful compared to other types of support is their involvement in the team’s elemental reaction. Some shielder (like Zhongli) can only shield, and some dmg buffer (like Bennett) can only buff, but every single one of the sub dps characters contributes to creating elemental reactions in some shapes or forms (maybe not Albedo, but that’s more because he’s a geo character).

Part of me wishes crystallize were better so that Albedo could consolidate both the sub dps role along with either defensive utility or something more than just being used for his off-field dps and occasional EM buff via his ascension passive. It's a little sad that as the first real premier 5* dedicated sub dps, he hasn't really found a home outside of mono-geo, and I'd mostly chalk that up to crystallize being a generally bad reaction. His appeal of being the only real off-field geo dps is kinda lost when the only benefits you get out of it are Gorou and geo resonance. Imagine if Albedo were *any* other element besides geo, he'd be borderline broken between his relatively high off-field dps, minimal field time and setup, along with the ability to facilitate noteworthy reactions or even trigger those reactions himself.

It would have make sense to mention quickswap dps that require low field time but arent off fielder either. That seem to be one of the possibility to build more complex rotation and bring more units to play.

I love the content as always, but I just wanted to drop a note of appreciation for your consistent use of FE 3 Houses music as background music 😍😍

You're definitely right about everything you said. I've recently found that I'm always pulling on off field dps characters a lot more than on field (with the exception of characters I love or a dps role for an element I don't have). This is why I was so excited for Dehya at first because that's what she looks like. I also wanted Yae Miko as my sub dps for electro because I didn't really like how Shinobu played and I just really REALLY don't like Fischl and I'm not building her so Yae was perfect. But my point being that I find myself using the same team over and over that I crave characters that fill that role so I can add them to that list of characters I'll always use. Which is why I feel bad for units like Diluc, Heizou, Fischl, Xinyan, etc., who I'll never build because I have someone better.

As always a very balanced video of your thoughts and musings. I honestly wish we could have more of a balance, like a character who can function on or off field but if you choose off field their damage is reduced or something. Or perhaps their skill functions off field but not their burst or vice versa. Thus incentives to keep them on field but you can still switch out if desired. I personally find myself putting Kokomi in every list before Xingqiu simply for ease of play, as she carries new under leveled characters through content with her excessive healing, and being a catalyst she enables a number of reactions.

On your first channel you do a mash-up of all characters of a class. Can you do the same here, but for each weapon type (since DPS classes are so vaguely defined)? Attack talent, Skill, Burst, A1 and A4 passives.

Get well soon Vars! Always love your videos and discussions, they're so interesting to watch

If yaoyao’s ult was active when she was off field, she’d probably be able to compare to other sub-dps top tier

I agree with you on the treatment of early 5 stars in the current version. While I do love them (always will be a Klee main) I suspect Hoyoverse did not want them to be wholly overpowered. While this does appear counterintuitive to sales, their rarity and limited runs will always entice players, especially at the beginnning of the game's legacy. Hoyo did not or might not have had a clear and detailed vision of what today's current game mechanics and playing field so they probably did not want their first batch of 5 stars to be so strong that it prevents people, especially the f2ps and low spenders, from pulling on any future characters because why would you spend money on something you already have? Look at Zhongli, his initial skills were so underwhelming probably because Hoyo did not want players to just breeze through their content which would have taken them a lot of time and effort to create - although this isn't such a good example as Zhongli's shield is still overpowered XD. Now that Hoyo has a clearer view of the playing field, they are now able to introduce more balanced 5 stars - though this does not mean every character they release would be a hit with the fans (though personally I love using characters people normally don't use like Dori and Thoma). On the other hand, 4 stars have slightly different treatment because you can theoretically get them at any time (Kuki pls come home). In one of your videos you looked at niche 4 stars and similar to what your said there, Hoyoverse are releasing them now because we have a more diverse roster of characters. At the beginning of the game, there were many roles to fill so they gave the early 4 stars more varied skillsets to cover as much space as possible. Again I bring up that Hoyo might not have had an explicit view of what Genshin would look like 3 years into the future, and so now that the large gaps have been covered by the likes of Xiangling and co., they've now more recently brought out units like Gorou, Yunjin, Faruzan, etc. I think that if Xiangling were released now instead of at the beginning of the game, her pyronado would have an ICD and her skillset would be dramatically mitigated. With every new 4 star character release, the chances of getting the early 4 stars are lower, so newer fans have to 'work' to get them and their strong abilities. While you can buy them from the shop, the currency to obtain them requires players to pull and thus giving them justification to pull and possibly spend money and so increasing Hoyo's sales. These are just some of my thoughts and theories, but I started playing at version 2.2 so I'd also like to hear other people's opinions :D, both Day 1 fans and those who recently joined.

Another awesome video -- this was so clear... Really helped me get the Sub-DPS thing straight in my head. Thanks Vars!!

Hey Vars I wanted to give you a video idea: Why characters seem weaker on beta/leaks, and what actually changes when they go live (with people saying alhaitham was just dendro keqing, yaoyao was trash and xingqiu was better than yelan while these characters were not in the live servers, and more recently what's happening to dehya)

Vars, I like your content, genuinely do, but if you want to make theorycrafting content on your channel, please please please get them checked out. There are so many, many things that are wrong with this video. The biggest problem is with the concept of the video itself. While Main dps for genshin is a horrible term in of itself, now that I've seen the definition of Sub dps, I realise it is much worse. The biggest problem is when one classify a character as on class but they play like another. Sucrose is the best example. She is commonly classified as "support", but when she applies electro via her burst off field for aggravates she plays like a "sub dps", and then when she becomes a driver for a taser team, she plays like a "main dps". You realise how wrong that is. Another example is Ganyu. People classify her as "main dps", but if you use ganyu mainly for her burst, she becomes a "sub dps". Ayato is in the same boat as well. You see how f-ed up the classification system is? A character's role should not be defined before defining the team for them. For instance, Kazuha Venti Collei Fischl. Kazuha is the on fielder with tf and applying electro, trigger aggravate. Venti is CC support as well as aggravate trigger. Fischl is electro applier and aggravate trigger. Collei is dendro applier. Everyone's role here is different from normal. There are so many roles a character can have in genshin. On field dps, off field dps, on field element applier, off field element applier, healing support, shielding support, battery, CC support, stat buffer, on field driver etc. These are the roles characters can have, and a character can have many roles. Bennett is healing support, stat buffer and battery while Venti is battery, CC support and res shredder with 4pcs vv. Another point I want to argue is the line between "support" and "sub dps". Take Xingqiu for example. At a baseline, he is just a hydro applicator. He applies hydro to enemies when the active char does a NA. However, when built with high crit and stuff like that, he becomes a hydro applier and an off field damage dealer. Kazuha at a baseline is CC support, stat buffer and res shredder, but if he is built with high em, his burst can deal off field damage as well. A few more itty gritty details here and there: You don't defacto to Sucrose in a Sucrose taser team. You use sucrose to drive the reactions because she is the best unit to use, not cause she is the only one. Wanderer is not a powercrept Xiao. Both of them have near similar roles with near similar damage output and s*ck without good supports. Fischl is fine in a Hyperbloom team. She rarely triggers the seeds so she's fine. I like your content Vars, but please next time, check your videos for accuracy sake. Thank you.

I've realised that the trio "assasin, tank, support" is recently being difficult to classify them: there are tanky dps, tanky supports and supports with good dmg. I wonder if one day characters are going to be impossible to classify

In many of the chinese tier lists, there are 0 T0 main/on-field damage characters, but several sub/off-field damage characters. Makes a lot of sense that a character that does not have to stay on the field to do all or most of their damage is far better than a character that hogs the field and prevents you from swapping out.

Another fantastic video discussing a very interesting topic. I think it might be beneficial (albeit difficult) for mihoyo to provide missions/activities where certain characters excel, like you mentioned with Kuki being superior to Fischl if healing and electro are necessary. Another option is to have an alternate version of spiral abyss where only 4* or 5* characters can be used, or where a handful of characters are available from a player’s roster. P.S. I’m not sure if you’ve done any videos recently discussing co-op (I’m going to check after writing this) but I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on whether or not it’s important for Genshin to improve its co-op, and if so, how could/should it be done? Personally, I think a multiplayer spiral abyss would be pretty cool

To be honest I wouldn't want the game to "incentivize" me to use teams or characters, just so I can have a reason to use them, because that would feel like being forced to use them. Pulling for them is reason enough; the whole fun of the game is finding ways to build powerful teams around the characters and playstyles you enjoy using, and most of the characters are good enough that, if you spend enough time on them, you can build powerful teams. Obviously, some characters just do more damage or are simpler to use than others. But if there were no differences, then there would be no variety. Yes, Hu-Tao does the most damage out of the pyro DPSs but is she the "best" just because of that? Her playstyle is very specific with dash cancelling and the like. Personally I like Yoimiya best cause it's all auto-aim and the fireworks are really pretty. I use Thoma with her cause I like Thoma, even though Zhongli or Bennett would be more "optimal" on her team, and she's still super powerful. I cleared abyss with a Nilou bloom team and a Mono Geo Itto team, even though I have a pretty well built national that would have been easier. Not because Nilou or Itto are the absolute best choices or even one of the best, but simply because I wanted to and it was more fun for me. It's really that easy. Unless you are the kind of player who needs everything to be at its absolute most optimal, and cannot stand the thought of not doing record-breaking damage on every strike, I think there's so much fun to be had with trying out new teams and characters. No judgement on min-maxers, I just think that, if your problem is that you want to try something new, there's so much variety in the character's gameplay to have fun with and there's absolutely nothing standing in your way.

6:49 eh nowadays they are exclusively dendro focused, which makes them have completely different team compared to raiden dps ones. At that point they aren't competing since you can bring both to abyss

Love all the Three Houses music in the backround.

Video request: Why no one plays ninguang

Hey there Vars! It was an awesome video. I wish you a fast recovery. We'll be awaiting your healthy return.

Zhongli its tier 0 due to how comfy and safe he makes everything.

What do you think about the quality in characters released by region? Do you have your own ideas for how the gameplay of the overall cast may have changed over the months whether it be drastically, greedily or even too simply?

I really agree with u on the very slow power creep thing. I dropped genshin for nearly a year and when I came by my hu tao still absolutely carried me through abyss. Even main DPS power creep feels manageable.

The fact that supports like Sucrose and Kokomi can be used as Drivers aka On field, just shows that the "classes" of characters constantly keep breaking the barriers and crossing over is perfectly fine. I feel like I'm getting dejavu, cause I'm reminded of learning grammar when I was younger. It's like i before e except after c, but except for everything single instant it isn't that way. And as for the case of Sub Dps, they (usually) have the best of everything! Damage, utility, a bit of support, and the best of all FLEXIBILITY.

As a day 1 player i recently finished building and leveling every single character i own to lvl 80 or 90 with lvl 8 in all relevant talents and my thoughts where that i could finally just play whatever i want because i also finished getting all of them to friendship 10 around the same time. I could play a yanfei dps team or noelle hypercarry or maybe my old favorite childe tazer team.... noticed something? exactly. except for the noelle team all of them practially run with the same 2-3 characters+ the gimmick iam going for. While building a xingqui or bennett unlocks 40+ teams , building my xinyan unlocked 2 teams in her physical team (which sucks) and her pyro team with c6 bennett. which again only gets unlocked by c6 bennett who i had to build first. I like the fact that a player who comes back after a year or two can still basicially get a new character (expecting them to have the region unlocked to get their stuff) and build a close to optimal team with the characters they already own from back when the game released with maybe missing nahida or shogun. This might be great to some i personally really dislike the fact that half my rotations start with xqs burst and end with the character iam actually trying to play. Even tho iam giving every character i get a fair shot no matter if its dori or kokomi (wanted dori and got koko on the first pull) i build both and might actually enjoy dori more because she is adorable , she just ends up being a cheap replacement for shogun or fischl or even kuki in the team which means i need to fill in other strong units that ive seen a million times over to supplement for her missing support or help. Dont get me wrong i love using every character but team building sometimes feels restricted while it gives you freedom to play everyone you want if you are fine with giving up 2 other slots for the big names.

Another great video. tho, I'm curious on your opinion on the game8 tier list?

"Placing 2 supports would be excessive" Me with Diona and Kokomi on the same team: nervously sweating

imagine how relevant klee would still be if her burst worked off field....

Diona can also be used in Dendro teams, specially after reaching C6 😽

One important factor is this: most people do not have every character, let alone have built the ones they pulled more recently. With time and ever growing roster it will be harder to pull the optimal meta team as the chances of pulling desired characters decrease. My solution for the future would be making niche 4* characters free and easy to obtain while making the OG 4* (Xl, Xq, Bennett and Fischl) harder to get.

4:19 right now the best tier list that i saw is the Letrows tier list

oh no Vars pls don’t tell me you think Dehya is gonna be the next pyro DPS 😭

A test of endurance event would be AMAZING! Everyone bringing their healers and let’s see how long we last 💕 god I would love that! Might also give a 🔥 🦁 more usage iykyk

It is always been like that in almost all gacha games I played. Supports are always the best for example in FGO, if you have Castoria, Skadi, Merlin, and Waver. I will assure you, your game is secured. The same way Genshin supports makes your game secured and futureproof.

Can't wait to see how u react to dehya

great video man

Gotta love how my first team was pretty much only supports/sub-dps Noelle, Sucrose (my beloved), Fischl and Xiangling.

You're 100% the same youtuber that used to make maplestory videos, I know that voice from anywhere

What about characters that work better in co-op game play? Klee's crits give the party energy passively while Bennett's burst doesn't work well in practice because people will leave the circle. Some characters and combinations only work best when you have direct control instead of sticking to one or two characters depending on the co-op content. Qiqi was a god in the Chalk Prince's; Resurgent Cryo Regisvine fight because she healed so much damage that she could ignore the mechanics and phases. She could just keep swinging through the blizzard because it didn't do enough damage to one shot her.

Bro, your voice is just fine. Keep up with the good content.

Vars, feedback: past the point when you started talking about Taser teams I felt you were speaking too fast and I had to slow down the video to 0,75x speed (and still suffered in following). Don't know if the recent issue with your voice factored in but hope you get better. Thanks for the analysis ❤

This video just motivates me to rework my Sucrose since Kazuha overshadowed her once I got him and put my VV EM pieces on him

s a ningguang main i am biased but i would love a feature to 5 star a main dps 4 star with like a constellation 6+ a quest or something. or even just some more artifact diversity to truly pump niche characters to the limit.

My Top 2 Abyss team consist of both Xinqiu and Yelan on its lineup Having nephew aunt combo on a same team is just insane...it feels ilegal TBH

so this talk mostly focused about the gameplay of the highest level of play in spiral abyss. For me personally, I have a single sub dPS support and two on fielders that react to the support equally as well as a healer. This allows me to fight enemies and have reactions that work for me in different situations. Even lvl 91 enemies fall to this strat. and it allows me to comfortably fight in the standard rock paper scissors. I also speced my prefered sub dps, xin quie, into a main dps. so now I have 3 main dps in my part at all times.

It didn't take me very long to realize that off-field DPSs and off-field applicators were busted. I pulled for HuTao which is on-field, but honestly, I don't even use her that much. It is indeed amazing how the "original" 4* off-field DPSs retained their relevance, and nowadays are still considered busted.

I ended up doing something... interesting with my team. Double hydro/Pyro. Childe, Xingqiu, Bennett, and Xiangling. It does pretty good for me tbh

My hope is they release a level 100 ascension eventually with a new talent passive for everybody to buff them eventually. Granted how talent levels are right now, it seems like it'll be more probable than impossible.

8:02 i never thought id be seeing wanderer as a comparably recognized good character I mean he isnt a meta character but he is very flexible in comps, you dont have to put faruzan on all his teams but i guess thats just my opinion

Yep, I nicknamed this phenomena Field Curse in a conversation almost a year ago. Because the meta works exclusively with the 1 Main 3 Sub, people are conditioned to look for Support/Sub-DPS thrice as often. Eventually I expect some considerably warped views about characters are going to arise from this. (in fact, there are 2 characters one could argue already suffer from this: Zhongli and Kazuha, dudes pack some of the cleanest attack strings and in-story are depicted as frontliners, but in the eyes of the meta they are a Shield-bot and an EM/Shredder respectively)

I’m still hoping for more specific bosses Like: this Boss take 50% Skill dmg decrease but 25% NA increase Or where Ninguangs Jade shield could be powerful Or where no elemental reactions work, just pure damage stuff like that

Hi, I just started the game and I’m now AR8 I would like you to help me choose the main dps, sub dps and support, the characters I have are xiangling, yao yao, noelle and the main characters

When I just started out I would always use a charge shot with amber, followed by a hold-E on anemo traveler, and I felt like I was breaking the game. Good times.

Before the video begins, I would just like to say that YOU ARE SO RIGHT WITH THIS TITLE!!! Also would just like to say. Ik you're trying to use on fielder as a term, but you should distinguish it from main DPS. Because the point of an on fielder is to be on field, not to be a main DPS. They can be a main DPS but they can also be a buffer, healer or a driver. Also, Xiangling isn't a sub DPS, she is usually the main DPS of the team. What Xiangling is is just an off fielder most of the time.

Zhongli is more ss tier now than ever before: enemies became more complex and do a lot more damage but zhongli can still face tank everything and laugh at them; has an universal RES shred that can even work with hyperbloom dmg; makes a lot of main dps characters not a frustration to play like ganyu, wanderer and cyno who can be continuetly interrupted by everything; his ult helps setups rotation while the enemies are blocked and even wolfhounds and abyss knights didn t make him less relayable.

Does anybody know the background music that plays at the start of the video? It's so familiar but I can't remember...

9:15 it was actually the other way around, sucrose being so good was used to devalue kazuha. It wasn’t until after his banner that people realized how powerful and valuable he was

Afaik main dps deals the most damage (not necessarily on field) and sub dps mostly enables reaction for the main dps and deals 2nd to the most damage. Ex: Hutao - On field main dps Xingqiu - Off field sub dps Childe - On field sub dps Xiangling - Off field main dps

The thing with sucrose that I noticed VERY early was that her and barbara were the fastest normal attackers in the game. Paired with XQ and Fischl made her feel so god damned powerful!

This video just reminds me that if Klee's burst persisted when she is off field, she'd be much higher in the tier list.

Can you make a comparison between a team with only buffers and dps and a team with a multiple sup dps .. I use Yoimiya with 2 sup dps and Scara with 2 buffers and their damge isn't greater than the other by a lot ..

Off-field units are much friendlier to use compared to on-fields. Because there's no risk of prematurely ending their effects, you can afford a few mistakes in your rotation order and it wouldn't adversely affect your overall DPS.

I do hope that Hoyo can make Klee's burst to be an off field skill.

I don't know where you got the info that wanderer is out shining xiao, but that's fine only one out of four wrong

You can literally put 3 sub dps with any kind of synergy and use a healer like Jean or better yet kokomi to drive xing swords and clear spiral. It's crazy

8:36 dude what kind of xiangling is that. 🤯

I appreciate the miko love in this video

The only thing I disagree is keqing being powercrept by raiden… keqing’s aggravate team literally has made her better than a lot of other main dps since the release of the dendro element, as keqing works somehow as a sub dps, requiring less time on field as she only uses her skill and burst, one CA then switch to the others

What music is that in the back ground

4:29 ayo wait wait wait they ranked candace above cyno keqing eula sucrose venti and xiao???? that tierlist is not possible i cant believe it

8:05 wanderer overshadowed Xiao? R u sure?

i have a raiden-nahida national team, but part of me feels like i could swap bennett out with anyone else with no real negative effect.

dps needs support to work, but support without dps can still do the job (with my kazuha i never do a full rotation in overwolrd/boses, and in abyss he's enough to kill small enemies

subbing because I know where the bgm is from haha

Awesome video ,but i would love timestamps

As a wanderer main, he has not overshadowed Xiao. Theyre kind of just equivalent to each other

POG VARS VIDEO LETS GOO

Shout out to my girl Sucrose for being a powerful and versatile unit, more love and recognition for her.

Imagine if klee's burst could be triggered off-field. Pretty sad they didn't do it.

Tbh some gatchas I played literally just make you get newest characters because all of sudden they are cruicial to be in the top

I'm okay with how off-field characters are atm if I'm being honest. It is true that it stifles team variety since at the end of the day most on-field characters' best team is probably some variant of National because of how strong it is. However this is actually good for most casual players who want to play a specific character as much as they can cause they will always have a team to fall back on and still clear content with. Of course not everyone will have that luxury, but it's kinda true when you consider most of the overworld can be cleared with at least Bennet+Kazuha because it's not demanding and you could literally slot it any two other favorite characters.

In the overworld and some abyss targets.... they simply die before the sub-dps characters set up their off-fields.

Don't forget that Hoyo can change (buff or nerf) characters even in such things like the ultimate stays after switching out. There is no real powercreep in Genshin but more likely variety.

If you just run 3 sub dps using one as a your main then have a support can you clear the game that way. Im new and i dont really have any good main dps characters.

8:04 Wanderer did not powercreep any on field dps or anemo dps, certainly not when comparing him at c0 to a c0 xiao.