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Why the Airbus A220 will replace the A320 - the full story (2/2) 

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Part 2 of this #cseries adventure is finally here - a whole 4 months after my last video. This semester was truly quite busy, but I only have one more of those until graduation :^)
This video could've just been a screenshot of Airbus CCO Christian Scherer saying that "it’s not a question of if, but when a stretched A220 will become the successor of our narrowbody #a320 family", but that wouldn't make for very good content eh
To break down this spicy take, that the #a220 will succeed the legendary A320, there are various factors at play - the most important of which is likely the competitive positioning of Airbus vs. Boeing.
Do you think this'll actually happen? Watch on and leave a comment :)
CHANGE THESE TIMINGS
00:00 Intro
01:11 Chapter 1: Market context
05:20 Chapter 2: Natural successor
11:11 Chapter 3: The stretched -500
13:32 In conclusion: The crossover jet era is here
14:00 bloops

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21 июл 2024

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@meckerhesseausfrankfurt4019
I think you are overlooking a point here: The A220 is not so much meant as an A320 replacement by Airbus, but offers a chance to build on the A320's strengths. In the short-to medium term, a streched A220-500 will necessarily be a 180-seat , shorter range option compared to a 180-seat longer range "A320XLR", with the A321 LR / XLR having the 215-seat segment all to itself. The gradual shift from the aging A320 to more an more A220s for shorter-range missions will allow Airbus to reposition the A320-successor firmly in the longer-range segment with even a slightly increased capacity, hitting an efficiency sweet spot in the 200-250 seat range.
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA Год назад
Could definitely turn out that way, with the A320 family graduating to serving longer routes that were previously reserved for widebodies and the 220 filling in the void that's left. In that sense then the A220 could still be seen as the pseudo-successor to the 320 😄
@naturallyherb
@naturallyherb Год назад
I think this is wonderful! While the A220 ultimately might not replace the A320 series entirely, especially considering the A321XLR's payload-range that the A220 is incapable of, the A220 is still an amazing product to complement the A320 family, and bridge the gap between the CRJ900-size and the A320, a market that historically has been very challenging for manufacturers to develop: the A318 and 737-600 were examples of such aircraft in this capacity range that ultimately did not work out to be so successful. Regards to the lack of commonality between the A220 and A320, that isn't really the biggest problem though; Bombardier designed the cockpit to be user friendly and be easy for other pilots to transition to this aircraft. Technologically, the A220 cockpit resembles the A350 cockpit and the overall A220 design is much closer to the A320 than to the 737, especially considering the wing and flap design, the fuselage doors, the wider seats, and the sidesticks. Additionally, I've also flown the Challenger 650 on X-Plane 11, an extremely realistic aircraft addon from Hot Start, and I can see that the Challenger systems does have a lot of similarities to the A220.
@AmurTiger
@AmurTiger Год назад
I think you're both right and wrong about that. Certainly in the near and even mid term I don't think the A320 is going away but as time goes on it makes a ton of sense to slowly phase the A320 out of the lower end of its range of capacities, leaning out the amount of infrastructure built around building those plans in anticipation of a full replacement of the A320 and A330 both of which are pretty old designs at this stage that will need clean sheet replacement eventually, the 737 has shown the risks of endlessly trying to update an old design. The big question is how they plan those replacements with the new A220 providing them a product up to 170 seats. The current arrangement has the A320 from 120-220, the A330 from 220-300 and the A350 from 300-410, with the newest aircraft on the extreme ends of their product stack they could either plan a couple replacements for the A320 and A330, say 160-230 and 230-320 respectively allowing all their aircraft to fly closer to their design basis or if they try to make a single aircraft replacement for the passenger range from 170-300.
@DeltaBravoTango
@DeltaBravoTango 2 года назад
Another brilliant Video, keep filming these plz
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA 2 года назад
yessir will do :^)
@captainphawat3592
@captainphawat3592 2 года назад
The quality of the video is phenomenal. Keep up the good work, one day it’ll come I’m sure.
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA 2 года назад
Thanks for the kind words!
@ThresholdProductionsCanada
@ThresholdProductionsCanada 2 года назад
Again, great job - keep up the good work! Your videos are fantastic!
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA 2 года назад
Thanks - I've been watching the CPL videos too :^)
@anasmaaz5731
@anasmaaz5731 Год назад
Airbus A320 and A220 are completely different aircraft. One of the greatest advantage of all Airbus fly by wire aircraft is their operational similarity which allows pilots move from one Airbus aircraft to another Airbus aircraft with minimum amount of training. It also allows for mixed fleet flying. A220 has a completely different philosophy to Airbus and thus, it does not fill the bill. It is not about fleet commonality, it is all about the amount of money and time required to train the current Airbus pilots. Also, A320 is a larger aircraft with better cargo handling capabilities, particularly the A321. Cargo is a big part of airline business even when carrying passengers. For example, the A321 can handle 10 ULDs. If a route has less passengers and more cargo, airlines can deploy the A321 there and make huge profits. Many airlines do that even now. Lastly, I do not think Airbus is going to replace one of the best products of theirs with a product produced by some other company.
@karlossargeant3872
@karlossargeant3872 2 года назад
I in this part 2 full Video on The Airbus A220's going on Short to Medium Haul Routes would be a good move for the regional jet planes they'll need extended range fuel tanks to fly into Long Haul Routes from Canada,USA and Europe that have smaller Airports Awesome Video!!!!
@JimmyKovacs
@JimmyKovacs 7 месяцев назад
Fantastic content! Thank you 🙏🏼
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA 7 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed :)
@stevenwest000
@stevenwest000 4 месяца назад
Thanks for another great video
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA 4 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed :)
@fToo
@fToo Год назад
great quality video - but i'm not sure i buy your theory! i would suggest the a321neo (including the LR and XLR variants) will lead the a320 family sales, and the a320neo will be pulled along in it's wake for commonality reasons. btw, it took me a while to realise that when you say "cannibalise" you mean "cannibalise sales" ... since avgeeks think of "cannibalise" in terms of spare parts ! keep up the good work
@eastmarvista3267
@eastmarvista3267 2 года назад
loved it!
@Adscam
@Adscam 2 года назад
Damn, part 1 was so good. Part 2 was a look into your fan boy expectations. Sorry.
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA 2 года назад
haha guilty
@vwbora26
@vwbora26 Год назад
The cargo bays of 320 family take the stantard bins tho wich the 220 does not.
@jamal3351
@jamal3351 2 года назад
love the new video. didn't watch it, but love everything about it. please talk about which plane would do the most damage if flown into a building (*hypothetically speaking*). think that would pop off the algorithm
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA 2 года назад
excUSE me what is this
@tonymcflattie2450
@tonymcflattie2450 Год назад
The a220 is way safer than the max 8 dinosaur. Thank you fly by wire and eicas.
@texasabbott
@texasabbott 2 года назад
It would be interesting to interview an A220 pilot who would be willing to share their experience with the aircraft's performance and handling. While it's well-known that the A220 is an outlier in cost and fuel efficiency, its other flight capabilities are numerous and staggering. Bombardier designed an exceptionally powerful aircraft with oversized engines and large, slippery, high-lift wings. Its ability to catapult itself from short runways on a hot day with a substantial fuel and payload is coveted by airlines such as Breeze, JetBlue and Delta, allowing access to challenging airports that would preclude the A320 and 737. The A220 is a very fast climber (with an engine fan diameter almost as large as the 757's RB211), with flight controls that blend the best of Airbus and Boeing hardware and software.
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA 2 года назад
I haven't come across too much on the actual takeoff performance but glad to hear that it compares to the 757. Interviewing pilots in general to get their perspectives would indeed be very fun for the channel - might try to do that for future videos :^)
@DCSMustang
@DCSMustang 10 месяцев назад
well, it's a lovely aircraft with an abundance of performance, which helps for airports like FLR or LCY, but when ATC's approach vectors are too short, it's really hard to loose altitude and speed to get onto the ILS because indeed its quite slippery and likes to glide forever 😅
@tonymcflattie2450
@tonymcflattie2450 Год назад
The moose is loose in Switzerland
@neilpickup237
@neilpickup237 2 года назад
As a regular traveller on Swiss/Lufthansa pre pandemic, I have experience on the A220-100/300 and A319/320/320neo/321. While I love the A220, I have to say that my preference (just) is for the A319, it just feels more solid, and being the smallest in the family has the shorter boarding times and less luggage at the carrousel. But my opinion could be heavily influenced by the terrible seat-backs Swiss have specified, with netting positioned so that the only place to put a water bottle is just where your knees want to be, and a table so small that your tray feels as if it could fall off at any time! One advantage that the A320 series has over the A220 (and 737) is the ability to take containerised hold luggage/freight, arguably less of an advantage on the A319, but an increasing one as capacity increases. With fleets possibly moving over to this type of aircraft, and a potential market of thousands of aircraft coupled with the airlines desire for ever shorter turn-arounds to squeeze that extra flight into the days schedule, could now be an appropriate time to develop a suitable container system? Since moving over to the side-stick, Airbus have made a point of the high commonality between all their aircraft, which apart from being good for the Airlines, no doubt improves Airbus's purchasing power immensely, but the A220 doesn't fit into the model. Given that Airbus wants to get the supply costs of the A220 down to the levels they are used to and expect/demand, in time, and as the A220 is developed/updated, I wonder if we will see it become more Airbus and less Bombardier? I don't know if it is even possible, but could we eventually see a change to the A220s avionics, or even more of a wild idea, the eventual replacement for the A320 series not being just a stretched A220, but a 6-abrest wider fuselage one? We keep hearing rumours of an eventual A322, or even A323, but somehow, I doubt if a five abreast layout could cope with those capacities.
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA 2 года назад
Interesting thoughts on a wider version or progressive alignment with the rest of the Airbus fleet - haven't seen these been suggested before! My hunch is that Airbus would increase commonality if they could in future versions (not sure how feasible this is but perhaps it's possible). Your point on cargo usage is also something that hasn't come up in my research too much, but it's a fair point as older 320s may get the 767 treatment for freighter conversions. On the topic of the A319, its NEO version seems to be clearly lagging behind other members of the family - at least partially due to its overlap with the A220. Might have to fly the 319 more before they're phased out 🥲
@neilpickup237
@neilpickup237 2 года назад
@@TheFlyingMooseCA I agree about the A319neo, and don't expect to see many airlines rushing to buy it - especially if they are already considering the A220. However, not that many A319s are ready for replacement, and we know that there is no A220 capable of replacing the A321, and unlike for the A320, not likely to ever be one. Even to replace the A320 could possibly be a stretch too far. Take the example of Easyjet who only fly A319/320/321s and when their significant numbers of A319s come due for replacement, I am sure that while it is by no means a certainty, retaining fleet and aircrew comonality may weigh heavily in the A319neo's favour. Only when significant numbers of A319s with major A320 series operators come due for replacement will we know if the development of the A319neo was an unnecessary expense, or a stroke of pure genius! Yes, the likes of Air France are moving over to A220s to replace their A319s and A318s (for which there is no neo replacement), but they already operate multiple aircraft types, so far less of an issue for them.
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA 2 года назад
@@neilpickup237 All fair points - in any case, the cost to re-engining the 319 is likely insignificant enough to Airbus to make the neo a nobrainer for them.
@neilpickup237
@neilpickup237 2 года назад
@@TheFlyingMooseCA Quite true, and unlike the A318 which because of its lack of length had to have the tail increased in size because it wasn't far enough away from the wings for the standard one to be effective enough (particularly on one engine when the rudder is also needed to deal with the thrust imbalance) the A319 is not much more than an A320 with fuselage sections fore and aft of the wings removed, 2 of the 4 over wing exits blocked off, and less powerful engines. And not to forget, the A319neo makes a spacious business jet where the increased cross section (when compared to the 4 and 5 seat accross airliners) possibly gives a far greater benefit than a longer length. Yes I know that the A220 is better, but I wonder how much better it would be over the A319 if along with the rest of the A320 series, the next iteration were to have lightweight wings like the A220? Inevitably that change would significantly eat into any current advantage, but could it get so close to make the benefits of commonality by having only A320 series aircraft for your single aisle fleet a no-brainer - unless of course like Swiss, who needed the A220 to replace their retiring Avros, for which there was no A320 series alternative.
@TheFlyingMooseCA
@TheFlyingMooseCA 2 года назад
@@neilpickup237 Yep - identifying the incremental benefit of the 220 over a 319neo is just one of the billion dollar questions that Airbus (and airlines) have to answer, although the 220 might still come out on top just by virtue of being a clean sheet design. Commonality is definitely something that will always work against the 220 going forward, so Airbus will have to hope that it can deliver vastly superior performance and passenger comfort - the latter of which is clearly subjective as we've already seen in this thread!
@rebeccasheikh548
@rebeccasheikh548 2 года назад
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