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Why The MPT-7210a Charge Controller Might Be The Best Golf Cart Solar Charger 

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You must plan your solar panel voltage with your battery voltage. You can have it higher or lower, but if it's the same your charge controller options are limited. This charge controller seems to bridge the gap by providing MPPT Boost charging capabilities but the ability to fall back to PWM-like Charging when the Battery voltage is lower than the connected panel.
It’s been a bit, I like this boost charge controller more: beenebrothers.com/product/gol...
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Here is the PowMr charge controller:
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@artblummer5307
@artblummer5307 4 года назад
Thanks for testing the charge controller ! It appears that we/you could have different applications use different charge controllers.
@SiriusSolar
@SiriusSolar 4 года назад
Perfect video for my friend who's been asking about how to add a panel to his golf cart.
@SiriusSolar
@SiriusSolar 4 года назад
His is 48v .
@stellapapadaki4299
@stellapapadaki4299 Год назад
Hello everybody, this is amazing tool!!! The ONLY problem is the noise from the fun and i have a very easy fix, the factory have wrongly placed this fan very close to the chassis, all you need to do is take it away from t he chassis for a few cms and the fan is silent, you do not hear the fan you hear th e vibration from chassis, which is disturbing if in close enviroment So> Take out the fan which is very silent by the way and for such a cheap fan very efficient and just place it, on the outside same side , with about 8 layers of double tape , so there is some distance of minimum 4-5 cms from the chassis, at the same side that the fan is , take then a plier and cut the metal pieces of the metal that was protecting the fan entry and place some gorilla tape around the fan so the the air is going into the rest of the chassis Amazingly silent fan and mppt , i have it in my van years and does not produce any noise at all.
@fathergratwick
@fathergratwick Год назад
So I'm using this very controller on my diy 48v lifepo4 golf cart with a 39v 355w solar panel as the roof. it charges the pack at 58v and over 5amps in the sun off the single panel. I didnt see you mention it but you should set the optimum panel voltage as well and this prevents it from stumbling as bad after a bird or cloud comes over.
@schutztruppe
@schutztruppe 2 года назад
so I hope i bought the right one for me. Besides me needing it for my ebike when i go camping , I wanted to hook it up to my deep cycle battery when I'm not otherwise using it. My panel is 350w 40v with this controller to a 12v Deep cycle battery. Will it work?
@RetroElectric
@RetroElectric 2 года назад
I’m going to try it and let you know!
@portlandlocalchurch8168
@portlandlocalchurch8168 2 года назад
I have a 48 volt golf cart with eight batteries of 6 volts each and I use a victron solar controller that is connected to four large panels on top of my shed to charge my golf cart the wattage of the panels is 310 watts each when I run my golf cart low I plug it in it's usually fully charged by the next day as long as I have several hours of sunshine. I don't charge my golf cart everyday I only charge it when it starts getting low and I usually run it pretty low like down to 46 volts but the charger fills them back up and floats at 58 volts
@DmitryOlyenyov
@DmitryOlyenyov 3 года назад
It's interesting that your true mppt controller kept panel at 30.1V and mpt was set up to 34V. As I understand mpt is not doing actual tracking of maximum power point and just relies on user to set it. I wonder if the readings would be closer together if you set the voltage on mpt to the same as real mppt controller tries to hold
@andrewriley9913
@andrewriley9913 2 года назад
What was the largest size of wire please..Andrew
@fathergratwick
@fathergratwick Год назад
Just reporting back to mention I purchased the elejoy 400w controller to replace this and its performance so far is far superior to this controller.. It does not lose its power point tracking and reset to 0v with every bird or cloud overhead and I got almost a full amp more of charging current from it in the testing so far and it wasnt even a completely clear sky. I was charging my 51v lifepo4 pack in my golfcart using the 355w solar roof panel and charging with over 7 amps.
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy Год назад
That’s awesome. I’ve been using the elejoy and have been super happy with it as well.
@12vLife
@12vLife 2 года назад
Looking for a way to keep a 48v 50AH lithium pack charged in Florida with a single 250w solar panel with moderate sun between afternoon(11am-4pm). That Solar booster just sounds very loud. Anybody try another Chinese product on Amazon going for about $50 in a black case?
@radio-scanfm.4903
@radio-scanfm.4903 Год назад
Дак можнож этот котролёр использовать для 12 вольтового акумулятора, просто в цепь поставить понижающий приоброзователь и на приоброзователе выставить подачю на акумулятор допустим 12-14- V и релле добавить в цепь после преоброзователя на отключения по вольтажу по достижению 14.3 V, должно же нормально работать?
@0109malik
@0109malik 3 месяца назад
Selam ben turkıyeden ekledıgınız vidoyı izledım çok teşekkürler benim akü 72. 80 amper
@brantgoose
@brantgoose 3 года назад
Can the fan stop? That's probly wasting power.
@robmcgregor247
@robmcgregor247 3 года назад
Thank you, awesome video! A couple questions. Will the charge controller save the battery charge voltage setting if the battery is disconnected, such as if the solar panel and controller are motionless while the golf cart moves from the charge station? I do know it's possible to save the voltage setting if the panels go to zero volts, while it is connected to a battery source, but what if the battery is disconnected? Also, will the controller stop charging the battery at the controller set voltage if the solar panels' voltage are above the set battery voltage value? Thank you so much!
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
Yes, in fact the charger will go offline when the sun stops powering it. Unlike most charge controllers that need the battery to run this one seems to power itself from the panel. I’m not sure about the second question. I haven’t tested that scenario.
@FloatingIdeasonanarrowboat
@FloatingIdeasonanarrowboat 2 года назад
It's a boost converter. In all probability it is just acting as a diode when the input voltage is higher than your battery, that is how they behave. What that means is, it won't disconnect when your battery is full!
@GoncaloRijo
@GoncaloRijo Год назад
@@jeroenbenes7190 with a higher than battery solar panel voltage?
@ncalivestream2403
@ncalivestream2403 Год назад
I tried to use the same controller to keep my 36V golf cart charged via a 400W solar panel that is mounted on the roof of the golf cart. With this controller I could get only 230W out of my 400W panel. I switched the MPT-7210A controller with a Elejoy EL-MU400SP MPT boost charge controller. Now I get up to 380W out of my 400W panel. That is excellent. Having said this, I can't recommend using the MPT-7210A controller. It is very slow to adapt to different light condition - when driving around the golf cart the charge current was very low until I come to a stop. Then the controller ramps up the Ampere. I don not have those problems with the Elejoy EL-MU400SP controller. Even driving around I get my full charge amperes.
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy Год назад
Totally agree with you. At the time the elejoy controller wasn’t available but I have the same controller as you on my forklift and it’s amazing!
@fathergratwick
@fathergratwick Год назад
I just bought one to try based on your recommendation for my 355w roof panel on my cart. I had read somewhere the controller backfeeds voltage to the solar panel and could cause damage. not sure how true that it but its something I would imagine a shottkey diode could remedy.
@blazejozz
@blazejozz 2 года назад
Hi, Thanks for this video. I'm just looking for solar controller to charge my 72V Li-Ion battery pack. Do you know what is minimum panel voltage to powered this setting up? Of course by using this MPT-7210a device.
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 2 года назад
I don’t have the manual in front of me but don’t think there is a minimum. At least not in a practical sense.
@sNEAKYnIGHTmUPPET
@sNEAKYnIGHTmUPPET 3 года назад
you should really ditch the PowMr and use the Make Sky Blue one instead. There is a HUGE reason for this... The PowMr is built on firmware 113 which has many problems like needing the user to multiply the voltage times the multiple of 12v the battery is (hope that makes sense) But the MakeSkyBlue uses Firmware 118 which in addition to fixing that about problem allows more defined battery voltages and also does not require a restart after changing setting. I have used both, and now only use the Makeskyblue version. I did find one other thing with the PowMr and that was sometimes, it locks up and stops doing mppt requiring a restart to make work again. Id really love to see you try this other version, I think you would never look back. oh, the only downside to the makeskyblue model is that it is about 5-10% more expensive, but once you look inside at it's construction it will be obvious why it is so. Let me know if you will test this on your channel, and what you think. Cheers!
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
You’re the first to give a valid argument for one over the other! I’m considering it, thanks for the info.
@toshihidekadota517
@toshihidekadota517 3 года назад
Thanks for good test result by using MPT7210a. I am wondering if you could run Golf cart while solar charging. max 10amp recharging to battery as same time discharging by driving golf cart than I would like to see what going to happen. Is it still keep charging as 10amp constant current? or stop charging with overload protection due to cart drain more than 10amp while driving the cart?
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
It won’t overload. The panel and charge controller will charge as much as they can making the range longer than without the panel.
@toshihidekadota517
@toshihidekadota517 3 года назад
@@BeeneEnergy Thank you very much. Its very helpful.
@jonathnrivers6730
@jonathnrivers6730 3 года назад
wish i could figure out how to get green one come on wen the sun come up i have to keep turning it on in the morning to start Charging
@deanhuff123
@deanhuff123 3 года назад
go into settings, long-press set when on AMPs OUT in settings, it will jump down to the other fields so you can set auto ON/OFF
@timz7548
@timz7548 2 года назад
You mentioned trying other controllers. Just curious if you've tried the AliExpress boost controller with the blue label - the one I'm looking at is Sunyima brand but I've seen multiple. Wanting to be able to connect a 240w 24 volt panel to my 48v cart and it looks like another option.
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 2 года назад
This one? I have one and it works. Interface is obnoxious to use. US $27.93 40% Off | MPPT Boost Solar Charge Controller 300W Car Battery Charging Voltage Regulator High-efficiency Charging 24/36/48/60/72V a.aliexpress.com/_mN7yIAW I like this one better, efficiency is good too! Way better than this green unit for ease of use. Check out this product on Alibaba App CE ELEJOY EL-MU400SP MANUFACTURER 400W MPPT SOLAR CHARGE CONTROLLER 99% LED DISPLAY STEP-UP SOLAR CONTROLLER MPPT BOOSTm.alibaba.com/product/62573798904/CE-ELEJOY-EL-MU400SP-MANUFACTURER-400W.html?__sceneInfo=%7B%22type%22:%22appDetailShare%22,%22data%22:%7B%22filterKey%22:%227.8.2_share%22,%22cacheTime%22:%221800000%22%7D%7D
@fathergratwick
@fathergratwick Год назад
@@BeeneEnergy ive been told that controller has better performance but I agree the interface and options are limited.
@MustyBastard
@MustyBastard 3 года назад
I cant get mine to charge at over 80 watts. Have a 320 watt dokio folding solar panel attached to it. Trying to charge a lithium battery at 58.8 volts. is their something wrong with my unit ? Is it maybe due to the xt60 connectors I am using from the panel?
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
This unit is probably less efficient the father apart the panel and battery voltage are. Boost converters are inherently less efficient also. Could be this is all you’ll get but it does seem low. Are you in direct sunlight, no shading on any part of the panel, and panel is angled toward the sun?
@MustyBastard
@MustyBastard 3 года назад
@@BeeneEnergy yes not a cloud in the sky. I did see it at 100 watts when I first started trying to charge when the battery was at 54v now. It is at 57.8 and has took 5 hours to put 400whs into the battery. Have not seen it above 80 watts all day. Maybe it has something to do with the battery bms? Still , taking a full day to get from 54 to 58.8 seems like a long top up period. Panel is only 21v so ya, there is a big gap between 58.8v and 21
@bartdepauw1156
@bartdepauw1156 Год назад
The green one has 60 V max input in the datasheet. I saw it was running at about 54 volts. My panels are 58Vmp and 73Voc (open circuit). Do you think these would still work with this green controller ? ( as 73V is already a lot more then the 60V then speak of). Any idea what your open circuit voltage is ? ( Battery will be a 20S Lion = 84V full charge, so I need a boost/step up convertor )
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy Год назад
I’ve learned not to work outside the posted voc limits. That’s an oddly high voltage panel but I know there are all types out there.
@lancealderman2755
@lancealderman2755 6 месяцев назад
You might double check a teardown video but I thought I remember the input capacitor being 60v so it would probably pop it
@lindanlester
@lindanlester 3 года назад
I want to charge a 40v lithium lawn mower battery in my garden shed where I don't have mains supply. I suspect it is actually 36v and charging voltage of 42v. What is the voltage that you set on this device battery voltage 36v or charge voltage 42v?
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
Lester Bennett you need to determine the specs of that battery for sure. Preferably tear it apart and determine how many cells in series and multiply that by 4.2.
@antonw.415
@antonw.415 3 года назад
I dont know if it's stil relevant, but you have to set it to the maximum voltage, so the voltage the battery has when it's full. In case of lithium batteries in a 36V pack it should be 42 Volts. You can also check the charging brick for the battery to be sure
@fathergratwick
@fathergratwick Год назад
@@antonw.415 I agree... if it happens to be a lifepo4 battery it would only want a max of 3.65v not 4.2... I set mine to 58v for my golfcart even though 58.4v is the peak voltage for my pack. it still charges to like 99% and the battery bms isnt kicking in to shut off charging this way.
@longle7603
@longle7603 3 года назад
Does it save the settings when the solar power goes to zero?
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
Yes, it does shut down at night but saves its settings for the next morning.
@Ramon-jq9kg
@Ramon-jq9kg 3 года назад
I have the same controller for about 3 years and you have 1 setting wrong, in the setting you must lower your mmp pannel voltage to gain power.. not open voltage from your pannel but lower to the mmp voltage of your controller. if it makes any sense?... from what I can see the voltage must by 29 a 30v and not 34.
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
Yes yes, I think I found this after this video. The mpp voltage in the controller should be set to the “vmp” of the panel not “voc” of panel. For me it would constantly reboot until I got that setting right.
@Ramon-jq9kg
@Ramon-jq9kg 3 года назад
@@BeeneEnergy nice, i have running it for half year for have found that setting.. it a great cheap controller that have never failt me in 3 year of operating.
@RareOrf
@RareOrf 3 года назад
Quick question, can you get anywhere higher that 1.5 A for a 72v battery? My panel is 330w 35v. Thanks
@antonw.415
@antonw.415 3 года назад
Alright, i too got one of these charge controllers and i have a question: What happens, when the battery is getting close to being full? So far i have connected the solar cell side to my bench power supply with 15 volts and set the output voltage to 12 Volt. With no load, the output voltage was 15 Volts too. So my guess is: the controller "shorts" the panel to get down to a safe voltage for the battery by charging the battery. But what will happen if the battery can't draw enough power anymore because it's getting close to being full? Will the voltage just rise because there is too little load and damage the battery? Does someone have experience with this kind of situation?
@BeezyKing99
@BeezyKing99 2 года назад
These are for 24V and UP!... people keep buying these for 12V batteries when it's merely a BOOST CONVERTER!... so *DO NOT USE FOR 12V batteries! for 24/48/72 ONLY*
@FloatingIdeasonanarrowboat
@FloatingIdeasonanarrowboat 2 года назад
You can't use this if your panel has higher than battery voltage. It will just act like a forward biased diode (full on all the time).
@lutherbertsomera2074
@lutherbertsomera2074 3 года назад
How bout 48v VOC PV array to charge 24V 50ah lifeo4 Batts using that green mppt SCC?
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
I wouldn’t do that. Grab yourself a more standard step down mppt controller. Like the powmr 60a I’ve got in a couple other videos. I think they are more efficient anyway with the tests I’ve done.
@lutherbertsomera2074
@lutherbertsomera2074 3 года назад
@@BeeneEnergy I have a 50a SCC to use anyways...but this green MPPTs also has a step down function does it?
@volvo09
@volvo09 3 года назад
@@lutherbertsomera2074 It's only a boost charger. It can't lower voltage. Not sure exactly what happens when you connect a battery that's lower voltage than the panels, but it doesn't work right. It either doesn't stop charging, or it cycles on and off rapidly and doesn't charge. I accidentally did it trying to charge a different battery and quickly noticed it was acting up.
@GoncaloRijo
@GoncaloRijo Год назад
@@volvo09 this i formation contradicts the video, and I think what you are saying is the correct one. This is only a boots converter and that's it, you should not connect higher than battery voltage solar panels
@deepbeeps
@deepbeeps 2 года назад
I have a 36 volt battery for a 4 wheel peddle bike with an e-bike motor. If I understand you correctly, I can use a 12 volt panel with this charge controller set for 36 volts and it will charge the battery completely. Is this correct?
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 2 года назад
Yep, or if you want a plug and play get one like this. Just gotta connect a panel and the battery and you're off to the races. While the green little guy here is less expensive it's more difficult to program correctly. So if you can spend the extra $100 I'd just get the simple one. amzn.to/36Ux6Ox
@jonathanlingel5235
@jonathanlingel5235 3 года назад
I have been solar charging my ebike's battery for over a year now without a charge controller and just monitoring the voltage. Recently I bought the MTP-7210a and it seemed simple enough to hook it up but the "manual" is impossible to understand (I illustrate and write manuals for a living). It seems like much is missing. Anyway, when I make all the connections the readings keep alternating between the panel voltage (with no current) and the battery voltage with charging current. Each time it alternates it takes several seconds to stabilize. Am I doing something wrong? I have seen hints that there may be several methods of charging and storing data but nothing specific on how to do it. You seem like the guy to ask. Maybe my charge controller is defective. Thanks. Oh, here is a link to my video on solar powering my ebike: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0Px8sbsGctE.html
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
Couple things I would verify. Did you put your two panels in parallel? This is a boost controller so the panel voltage should be lower than what you’re trying to charge. Second is the panel voltage setting. I don’t remember exactly with mine but it was cycling off and on due to me not having the voltage dialed in. I’d put it to the vmp of the panel. So for my 46voc panel I have it at around 32v. See if either of those help you out and let me know.
@jonathanlingel5235
@jonathanlingel5235 3 года назад
@@BeeneEnergy I wired the two "24V" panels in parallel for this application so that they would be lower than the "48V" battery. I was not able to actually dial in the panel voltage. The indicator on the regulator says the "24V" panels reads about 40V and varies a bit. Thanks for your quick reply!
@jonathanlingel5235
@jonathanlingel5235 3 года назад
Okay, I was able to set the panel voltage and possibly have saved the settings by following the operating instructions to the letter however the controller charged passed the voltage setting point and the instructions failed at the 11th step and would not let me set a time to turn off the screen. Thanks for your help
@CantoniaCustoms
@CantoniaCustoms 3 года назад
Is it just me or do you look like Abe Lincon?
@Saint696Anger
@Saint696Anger 3 года назад
Lol I was thinking that also
@suriyat8773
@suriyat8773 3 года назад
72v
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552 3 года назад
On partly cloudy day this boost charger won't give you much of anything
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552 3 года назад
Well if you have clouds or any birds flying around you've found this charger doesn't work very well. The ckvt 300 out performs this one two to one People don't buy this charger there is a much better one. I know I've used the 7210 for a year it's really cheap and extra solor panels don't help .
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
Post a link!
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552 3 года назад
@@BeeneEnergy there were a couple us sellers but I think they've sold out www.ebay.com/itm/164328225339?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552 3 года назад
Ive only found them on ebay
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z5ttplRHY9Q.html
@fc436
@fc436 5 месяцев назад
IS NOT EFFICIENCY. the small controller take a wrong mpp voltage. Dont note you that the panel is at 36v'?? is ridiculous !! at 36 v the panel drop the power. is a lot more than mppv. but have nothing todo with efficiency! is worst. a mppt with a wrong mppv is totally garbage
@neeld.5522
@neeld.5522 3 года назад
You are misinformed and now spreading it regarding mppt charge controllers and current solar panels on the market. Almost every mppt charge controller accepts open circuit voltage from 60v to over 160v. You don't go the government to buy a secret 60v panel for your 48v battery. You simply put a few regular, easy to get solar panels in series. That's literally the basic foundation of a solar setup with a mppt CC...
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
Yes that’s one way to skin the cat. And arguably the best. But what are you saying I’m misinformed about?
@neeld.5522
@neeld.5522 3 года назад
@@BeeneEnergy at the start of the video your statements implied that we have to find these hard to find, high voltage panels of 50v+ to charge 48v batteries. You then immediately jumped to the boost charge controller leaving out the standard practice of using panels in series. This tells the "new to solar" viewer that they have no other choice but to use a boost controller outside of finding the rare high voltage, high cell panel. It also gives the impression that you are not well informed about the basics of building simple mppt solar systems. I ended up on your video after searching for the part number of this boost charge controller. A new user in a beginner solar Facebook group bought this boost CC for his three 250w panels thinking that the panels have to be in parallel and this boost controller was his only option to charge his 36v bank.
@BeeneEnergy
@BeeneEnergy 3 года назад
@@neeld.5522 oh that’s funny I was just reading his post on facebook. My whole video was aimed at putting a solar panel on top of a golf cart. Trying to put multiple tends to be limited by space and finding a single panel that is high enough voltage is in fact rare. If you’re not limited to a single panel then absolutely use a buck charge controller.
@neeld.5522
@neeld.5522 3 года назад
@@BeeneEnergy oh I totally get that it's a bit of a challenge to have 2 panels on a cart roof and what your goal is with this video. Unfortunately it's easy for new DIY folks in solar to set themselves up for problems and possible house fires in some other cases with the weird information out there. As your statements come across as misleading with how it's worded, I'm kindly asking that you consider dropping another sentence or two in future videos to ensure that everyone joining the DIY solar community has an accurate impression of the technology. You are a content create and you have influence with your videos. Based on your last reply, it would seem that you are informed. So a comment like "Now you could have two or more panels in series with a standard buck mppt CC which is standard practice with mppt solar systems, but fitting more than one panel on a small golf cart can be problematic" would have been very welcomed and would cover the entire audience that has different levels of solar knowledge.
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552
@e-bikefulltimecitytranspor3552 3 года назад
Don't buy this controller get the 300
@rickyvenilal1713
@rickyvenilal1713 4 месяца назад
pow.Mr is the only controller I've ever used
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