Why the NHS is in crisis 

Is your best mate Lenin?

@@guff9567 He died 100 years ago so we aren't exactly close. Run along now, it's a school day tomorrow.

@@guff9567 what a stupid question

@@AustinPowers704 He's playing on his mum's laptop again... wait till she comes back from the pub, he'll be sorry. 🤣😂🤣😅

Where do you get this from?

it was in the news how much is wasted re: the nhs, that's y brexist came out.

Because they will spend it on waste of space equality and inclusion / diversity managers and more paperclip pushers. And not where its needed.

Being spent on migrants

1-Stop mass immigration, the country is being sunk. It’s not a case of racism, just pure numbers. My Jamaica mother agrees! 2-Only let nurses and doctors move here, or anyone earning £30K + no spongers! 3-Train more nurses, make training free and increase pay to make it more appealing. Nurses shouldn’t need a degree to wipe bottoms either. It’s a mainly practical job, let them train and get paid on the job. 3-Stop giving benefits to immigrants, they just come here to live free and milk the left wing system. 4-Charge people to use the NHS if they have lived here for less than 5 years, or have no NHS number. This may sound harsh, but it’s the reality. Can anyone explain to me the benefits of allowing mass movement of poverty stricken, low skilled people into the country?

The NHS already gets enough money, they just waste it on way to many management staff and silly bureaucracy. It needs reform, not more money.

There's no time travel

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I stopped using NHS and now have BUPA medical cover.

I'm so sorry to hear of this. But it all depends on your father's health, sometimes this happens even if the ambulance gets there in time, but the result ends up the same. Sometimes hospitals/ doctors ,/ surgeons can only do so much , we forget they're just doctors and they can't help everyone they'd love to cure all, but can't. Again sorry for your loss, but you will always have those special memories you shared with him. Take care ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏

I'm so sorry.

Shut it Trotsky

Twelve years of Tories trying to find money to fund everything with after being left with f**k all by the outgoing labour government. And before you accuse me of being a Tory voter, I live in an area of South Yorkshire that held street parties when Maggie Thatcher died.

@@guff9567 awright Himler.

How is increased spending a cut?

But it is not true what yo speculate

Ambulances need to justify their delays in the UK as well. The problem is, they can. They're all queued outside hospital for 6+ hours so there are no ambulances to send.

There will be no cross party working to solve the problems of the NHS. If the politicians were serious about fixing the NHS, this would have happened years ago. It’s just one giant political football to them.😊

@@jmshrrsn they haven’t taken their eye off the ball. This is precisely what they wanted. Underfund a public service so it’s easier to privatise and give your mates billion pound contracts

That's terrible. In Taiwan current ambulance average wait time is 7 minutes. The national target is 10 minutes and roughly 90% of the ambulance calls in 2021 met the target.

import more arabs who stay on benefits all junk from all over the world is coming in germany to stay on benefits im pay fking 30+% tax on my money , i dont want fking benefits im leaving and make room for more junk to come no problemo but they dont pay tax they take from it lol

Huh? The NHS staff are there, they exist, but they are leaving because they're underpaid and undervalued.

@@Kam-go3bc U think! So they say, but that's not actually the case. 70% of people die in a hospital. if u get dementia, if emergency then the dr can give u a DLR (I believe it's called. Do not resuscitate if wakes up. THIS IS HORRIFIC. I only got to know about this recently. TWO cases I know of, regarding this. And the 3rd one is the well known story of a lady that was in the news. (She was cut off, so to speak). REALLY, the public needs to be aware of these things & speak out. there should be a website where people can address their concerns & SAY NO to this ever happening to them!!

I personally know former nurses and doctors and it has nothing to do with having more patients. Some of my friends complained about the bureaucracy going on in the hospitals and how they decide how to spend the money on tools, staff, medicines. Sometimes they have enough funds, they just don't really care about you. Unless you go to a private doctor, obviously.

The Uni fees alone leave people in crippling debt to the point they no longer find it feasable to become a nurse working long hours and being under-payed, even if they got a pay rise, they are still massively under payed

My wifes a ward manager after qualifying back in 2012, and I work in the NHS (patient flow) as well (thankfully a different hospital though ha). You're right, we probably get the same complaints, but I think the aging population factor combined with a low birthrate is a bigger factor than people think. Being morbid we kinda shot ourselves in the foot being that good at keeping people ticking, but often the best outcome is just getting them back to baseline, when that baseline level wasn't good enough to keep them out of hospital to begin with, if that makes sense. It's a vicious circle. The amount of patients that come in at 85-90+ with multiple admissions in just a few weeks for things like ''off legs'' or ''falls'', to the point they're essentially regulars is crazy, and it only seems to be getting worse, not better. It's obvious that this was going to happen. I also think Obesity is a big factor, no pun intended. I wonder if any statistics exist on the % of admissions that either fit the ''elderly and probably going to deteriorate no matter what" category, along with "Obesity" and "Drug and Alcohol" related admissions. I almost wouldn't want to see that.

Uni's were requiring entrants to nursing degrees to take a certain untested and risky medical intervention.

Non Brit here. You need to have a (small) fee charged to use the A and E. I can't believe EVERYTHING is free at the point of use. Even Sweden charges

Rainclouds Radio we pay a small fee in our taxes. Those who pay tax should be front of the que.

true. When you try to book a gp you are lucky if they can see you in 3 weeks

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Sounds like that's the plan, Democide is a thing, especially after the truth coming out about convid.

There is a visa route for healthcare professionals in the U.K..

recently had my partner in hospital with pneumonia after having a c-section and catching every cold and flu since (then covid in hospital *face palm*) and now our little girl is in and I can honestly say this does not surprise me, there seems to be so much waisted resource and duplication and time waisted at the moment. For example my partner is a nightmare to get blood from or put a canula in and she tells every nurse that tries but they will still try to take blood from her arm 8 years and they all fail, so they waste the canula then have to mess about getting a butterfly clip wasting resource and time. Then the Dr said she was clear to be discharged but when it come to the nurses sorting her to leave they were like we need to take more bloods and do an ECG this meant she stayed in another night, next day bloods and ECG done and Dr was like why are you still here I said you could leave yesterday I didn't order an ECG or bloods they aren't even on your notes. turns out that day 5 people in same bay got discharged I'm guessing they wanted to do them all together :/ Edit: actual just started watching the video and its Rotherham we were at no surprise at all then!!!

@@dwsg1990 had a consultant that was discharging a person quite a few days after an assault. nurse stopped this, she said 'he should not have said that'. Then they wrongfully .... kept person on.

@@monal3650 the consultant was wrong you mean? With my partner the nurses agreed she was ok to discharge but made out the Dr wanted the ECG first but when he came to consult next day he was like I never asked the nurses to do this 🤦‍♂️

@@dwsg1990 NO. I mean exactly like u were saying, the Consultant was right. But the nurses as in yr case was not listening to the Consultant, and were wrong, as yr case proves. In the case I cite above, the nurses went behind his back. It was a crime U can't be treated like that when u had a crime commited against u, which led u to being there. The nhs is there for u, as a public body!

@@monal3650 ohhh sorry I get you now, I totally agree it makes no sense they are wasting so much money doing stuff like this then wonder why they are struggling for a pay rise.

It's the opposite in this lunatic asylum called Scotland. The Nurses after visiting the patient in their home who has a fractured leg, have to ask the Doctor what to do, who equally has obviously never heard of 999 let alone A&E and prescribes E45 Cream instead. I don't call them the Return of the BrainDead for Nothing. :-(

And that's something that's supposed to be treated straight away before it causes damage to the organ! It's getting to the point where people are seriously in danger of not getting the treatment they need at all! It'll be like it was years ago where people live in fear of any type of infection! Hope you're getting better now.

U have said right! I'm going to shock u with this, but it happened. I went to a couple's house as I was feeling quite lonely. they gave me a cup of tea & then called the ambulance. One of them said 'u r not well'! I was shocked. One was a paramedic the other a midwife. They were mistaken & I was in shock when they did that. & they did it so quick. I was horrified. they had hardly talked to me. I was probably in their way. this safeguardg thing, people badly misuse it, & those who r in serious situations, like a child being beaten by parents, etc., do not get the help when they need. it is serious. But also, a call centre problem! +

then they shouldn't be sending ambulance's. they should tell them to see a GP. i know the wait is ridiculous, but if you want to save more lives and have more beds for the people that need them you need to be more ruthless. the government don't give two shits about the NHS and never have. they obviously want us to go private, but want to hear it from the public first.

@@LivingOnaPrayer123 im part time only. i never agreed to this stealth communism, thats clearly what this now is.

@@LivingOnaPrayer123 i think mild symptoms are used as an excuse to leech.

@@LivingOnaPrayer123 all you have to do is buy gold coins, bury them. then move to part time work and wait for the currency to collapse in 2024. enjoy it. buy a camper van to pass the time. what you shouldnt do is contribute labour or taxes into this government. they are rogue and controlled by bankers.

tories.

Jeremy hunt

sold of by our government,whether Tory or Labour...

never, u need an independent body re: claims. a nurse harrassed me so much day after day, I cd not even look after myself as I wished due to her continual harassmt. She was angry as I had used a private dr & found a bladder infection. I was so happy to get help. I didn't even know the nurse. Because of her, I was wrongly taken in, & I had to beg for water as felt I wd faint as was rushed out of bed by a key worker. he refused to give me water... it came too later, I ended up fainting & falling down. & .... I cd have claimed, & should have, I knew he was concerned about losing his job. I didn't as I felt I cd not being in their care. I should not have even been there. & so this nurse got off...

@@monal3650 Sounds pretty bad! I'm not trying to belittle anyone's experience or right to compensation. However there's a major problem with the way claims work against the NHS. Firstly, if you had made a claim yourself it would be unlikely that nurse would have penalised personally, perhaps a dressing down from her bosses, but it's very unlikely she'd have lost her job. Secondly, the claim system is little more than a racket to line lawyers/solicitors pockets, that includes the defendants legal representatives which in the case of the NHS is contracted legal department! It's in their interest that people do come forward and make claims, this is why hospitals are plastered with posters and other advertisement asking you if you've had an accident! It's big business, and because it's public money it doesn't really matter that there's no real accountability, only if becomes a criminal case does it draw any attention, civil claims for malpractice or incompetence very often don't even get a proper judicial review, as they are more often than not settled out of court. This means the value of the claim is decided by the solicitors, but normally it has to be worth at least £10k to get it into the fast track. Also there's no cap on legal fees, and this is where the problem lies, the system is completely open to fraudulent activity, there is no oversight, solicitors have a free hand to set whatever pricing they feel they can get away with! This is why I say the process of making a claim against the NHS should be taken out of the hands of the legal firms and solicitors! There's a high level of corruption within these legal departments, it needs a different approach. In fact you could say this for almost all aspects of the litigation industry.

yes, I realise re: sols. However, independent body is always best. Otherwise, it wd not be fair on the person. e.g. in my case, I needed surgery & a pin being inserted due to what happened in the fall (hip). was pretty awful. we don't want to be run by govt, we need fair systems! but then how r so many getting away with this malpractice as u say in nhs, it just should not be happening.+

@@monal3650 To answer your question. Basically it's because the legal departments within the NHS are just like any other legal firm, they thrive on there being claims, more the merrier in fact. The more work there is, the better the chances of increased pay and more opportunities there are to network amongst their own kind, even if that's to the detriment of the client they're supposed to be defending. It's just like insurance companies, they need claims to warrant their own existence. Another issue is that solicitors on either side are pretty much unaccountable for their corrupt practices, they are supposedly governed by the SRA (Solicitors Regulatory Authority). But in practice there's very little action ever taken against solicitors who get caught out breaking the rules, usually as there's "lack of evidence" to action a reprimand. The whole system is totally corrupt and geared towards swindling money out of people, and if that's public money all the better! To give you an idea how lucrative this is, there are big legal firms coming over from the USA who now specialise in suing the NHS! We need to stop this racket now! It's destroying our health service, the forecast is within another couple of years the NHS will be spending a third of its budget paying out claims and legal fees! If this continues it will be unsustainable and the NHS will no longer be a free service.

It's not just the Tories. Labour are just as guilty. Labour too massively cut back NHS resources when they were in power. The NHS has been in a serious resource and funding crisis for the last 20 years. It's just got continually worse over those 20 years, until we've now inevitably reached this point. Ths NHS has been consistently cut-back gradually and incrementally since the 1970s.

@@andywilliams7323 We all know that NHS funding has always been higher under Labour governments. The last 12 years have left it barely able to function. I'm not a supporter of the Labour party but that's simply the way it is.

@@andywilliams7323 no they arent. when labour came in the only way to afford to expand NHS was thru PFI. thats very different to selling bits off to private companies. it was on its knees when labour came in. tories always try to kill it.

@@dub604 andy gets his news from the sun

@@kanedNunable I feel sorry for the parents.

The sad thing is how many idiots bought that flagrant bullshit.

r u sure they r getting that much. they r our public body, meant for us the people. y should that poor person above have died? so sad.

@@monal3650 …I was being sarcastic, Johnson’s bus was a lie, in a mountain of lies that make up Brexit. Not only was the sum mentioned not given to the NHS, but Brexit has shrunk our economy, and reduced the tax haul, so there’s actually less money for the NHS.

@@Sdakouls3 …it was a tragic demonstration of what happens when you underinvest in education for 50 years straight… a bovine electorate (and I include myself in that) incapable of assessing data and forming an accurate opinion, and therefore vulnerable to manipulation by populist kleptocrats.

I just thought about that. Brexiteers tried to sell the public Brexit by promising that EU contributions would be rerouted to the NHS, knowing how people in the UK feel about the NHS. That was a con, an unfortunately, some people fell for it.

Loool the NHS is understaffed and the care system which takes pressure off the NHS because of our hard stance on migration

@@kyronne1 What hard stance? GB is overrun with illegal aliens just as the U.S. is.

it really depends. If you have GENUINE emergency then you will be seen quite quickly. Most people (understandably) don't know what a genuine medical emergency looks like and think the cough they've had for 2 years is something to get checked out in A+E one day....

was that the case, what they had said?

that's a proper paramedic, v gd. Quite an amazing story... last year, when I got desperate for toilet, no one will realise apart from myself. & u can't find one. So u won't believe what happened.

@@BartholomewBrian my answer below, but did u see my story way below (there r two). Lisa

@@BartholomewBrian u will find my story below... nearly hilarious!

Maybe 12 years of Tory cuts has everything to do with it.

It’s both things.

Because its fake.

Did you think it was ever going to?

Because the staff are fed up of not being paid properly , the nhs can’t recruit/ retain the staff . Government underfunding , over populated population the list goes on why the nhs is sinking …

Pay is not worth the stress that the job puts you under so lots of highly trained staff are quitting. Nurses are being replaced with fresh graduates and doctors are being replaced with imported ones from India and pakistan.

They are ALL useless

Amy figures for this or just your opinion?

Screw TV: nurse here, you are literally the first person to mention this, nobody else has.

@@onmytravells9429 Its just what the daily mail told him. The actual figures disagree. Managerial positions in most sectors in the UK comprise of about 9% of the workforce. In the NHS its 2% (Kings Health Fund research). When you consider that the NHS is one of the largest employers in the world it is very undermanaged.

@@justadude8369 Nurse 30k Diversity officer 70k 800 managers on more money than the PM.

@@levi5073 i agree that nurses are criminally underpaid

Commie

I'm an NHS worker and I totally agree with you. I'm in absolute despair.

​@@sallyhenry6685 leave then. Asda are hiring

@@jpw6893 good luck paying for your heath insurance should the NHS get privatised. Then you will have something genuine to moan and complain about along with the other conditioned peasants. 🤡

@@jpw6893 tory

Tbh this system would work with some basic changes. Our politicians just don’t want it to because it doesn’t make them money

Surely most Americans would have insurance??

@@mikecook1537they do. 2/3 of americans have health insurance. i’m very confused whenever i see my fellow americans act as though none of us have health insurance and we’re all struggling to see a doctor. it’s a weird victim complex i wish they’d stop.

@@Hana-hl6cd umm that still means about 110 million odd don't have it??

@@Bringon-dw8dx Why should a fair system such as the NHS should be made not to work on purpose in order to pave the way for private companies?????!!!!!!Our government is rotten to the core as you can see in the state of the country!!!

Very good point!

The private sector consultants and the nhs consultants are the same people. In the morning or say Monday Tuesday Wednesday they do their nhs work and then the afternoons or Thursday Friday they do their private work.

@@haydndavies2475 good to know...the private sector should be building their own hospital's to care for insured and those who can afford to pay for their medical treatment...the NHS should only be for the average British citizen and the poorest in the country...this tax funded two tear health system is not fit for purpose and will bankrupt the country!!!.🤔

it isn't free when everyone pays for national insurance

@@derrickpangilinan free to the point of use.

@@derrickpangilinan correct. More so, when after working for 50 years and paying thousands of pounds in national insurance and poll and council taxes, only to be hospitalised for the first time after a stroke and be sent home after 6 weeks to supposedly recover at home and pay these so-called care??? workers, whose travelling time was included in the 30 mins of work time. When I worked 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, I had to pay for my bus and train fares off of the £1.66 an hour minimum wage I was paid, I didn't get any Free Transport and after working full-time for 26 years I still have never had any Free bus pass in my life in this Lunatic Asylum called "Mad House" Britain.

@@insanityrulestheday I was also witness recently to how bad things are in my local hospital. It's sad how badly this Government have ruined this country. Whole generations without hope, heat or eat, poverty crisis, more food banks than McDonald's, highest taxes, interest rates, energy prices & inflation. Nurses, ambulance, posties, teachers, fire brigade, lecturers, barristers, train staff & homeless prevention workers all going on strike because wages doesn't cover rent & zero chance of them ever owning a home. Sad times. All during record profits & record dividend payments to shareholders. It's amazing how such a great country can be ruined so badly in such a short amount of time. Hope you're healed up now!

@@insanityrulestheday And that is the problem with Universal Healthcare in a nutshell. Healthy folks and/or high earners end up paying more than their fair share into the system just to find nothing there at their time of need because overwhelming numbers of unhealthy and under-employed individuals have used up the resources. Privatization is villified but is the logical solution when society has more takers than contributors.

Let alone those who get admitted for psychological problems

That’s because they can’t see a GP for weeks or months and when they do they face a 12+ month wait to see a specialist - it’s not rocket science.

Doesn’t help when the main way to get an appointment is to call the GP at 8am. Call any other time and you’ll be told there’s a 4 week wait OR the diary is fully booked. There is the opportunity to use 111 as a ‘back door’ as they have access to some appointments, but not everyone knows that nor wants to hassle them (think the people who wouldn’t attend anywhere if they can’t see the GP)

I attended hospital for Acid Reflux when I was 20 because I didn't know better! It was the first time it happened to me and I thought something was wrong with my heart.

Yes, but don't forget to mention that sometimes it impossible to see the GP in the same month you calling. So even if you don't have an emergency, probably you won't wait a month for a problem you have now.

It just needs better management, that is all

It has almost all the money from general taxation. It goes to managers and agency workers. It's very inefficient. No amount of money will fix the NHS as it would never reach the places it's needed. Its more like private health care funded by the taxpayer.

@@paulinecabbed1271 it does need better management but it also more cash. I think we spend less on healthcare than most of the rest of Europe so a bit more cash is definitely justified.

@@elyrexo Better that than trident!

@@elyrexo it would. It's not just the money. It's the people that need it won't ever get it.

I live in Italy and the health system has gone to the dogs

You want a swiss or dutch system. You don't want Obamacare or the NHS. ie. A bismark not a beveridge system

😮

There's plenty of brainwashed, tracksuit tories in this country that literally do whatever the Daily Mail tells them to do. Education & Empathy is lacking.

Both systems are broken... in theory the UK socialism one should work in theory better? But under its mismanaged business practice...

@@majorskies7091 Why? It's running a pension ponzi. That means you have to cut 30% off future health care spending just to pay the debt. Treat now, pay later. Combine any 3 of insurance, supply and reglator and you have a disaster. That's what your socialist beveridge system does. End result patients are killed in large numbers, 20,000+ a year from avoidable errors. The advantage of the US system, you get redress when you are maimed and killed. What the UK needs is a bismark system

100%

If the government cared about our health and well being. They would mandate healthy eating and exercise. There’s a reason big pharmaceutical makes billions from ONLY the sick and dying. Once you realise the government is a corporation, and the queen was given a new title years ago, the head of state. Meaning head of the corporation. You realise all the governments cares about is money.

@@niblet112 never were truer words said . 👏 It's not a conspiracy theory it's 100% true and anyone that believes other wise is completely naive. The government don't care and never will . Caring will affect the rich and their finances it's really that simple . They would rather stamp on everyone else for money 💰 . Legit a corporation.

before this evil, criminal, corrupt tory government THAT'S WHEN!

@@PerilousSelector we had labour 12 years ago. 16 years ago we were still on "life support" math isn't mathing..

It's never been this serious, having to wait at A&E but that's what A&Es are for patients that can wait not ambulance call outs

@@kyronne1 true but we did do exactly as the NHS demanded, full lockdown and unlimited budgets as they asked

Have you considered that it just keeps on getting worse? I dont know what more to tell you - one day you won't hear these headline because the NHS will be gone. For the better or the worse of the public - who is to say? But it will certainly be to the benefit of most of the staff...

there is money for ukraine, there is money for economic asylum seekers, there are only claps for the NHS.

We can afford the NHS AND Ukraine - but we need to tax the rich a bit more.

@@emm_arr stop the wealthy elite establishment storing all their wealth into offshore tax havens.

@@treadstone1970 Indeed.

They have pumped money in. Precovid instead of 350 million extra a week it was over 1,500 million extra a week. Why did that fail?

The Scum who voted for them is the answer.

Average lifespan in those countries is about 65 years so keep it in your pants

yep, as above, nhs is a public body there for us! we r the ones who r paying taxes to have this service

@@monal3650 Yeah but obviously not enough? In my country we pay the pasic monthly fee for the medical insurance according to the household income and 30% for the treatment each time you see a doctor. 10% for pentioners. Still not enough but don't have to wait a year for a heart surgery.

Lucky YOU. I know of someone who worked full-time for minimum wage only for 50 years until his retirement and paid thousands and thousands of pounds in NI contributions as well as Poll and Council Taxes, as well as being taxed on his state pension and private pension and when he needed help from the NHS for the first time at the end of last Year after collapsing with a stroke in his home during the Tory PLAN-demic, the treatment he received by these so-called Medical Nurses and Doctors as well as Carers was Deplorable. They are SCUM!

nurses get good pay, that is already known. U have been lied to. U can find out their actual pay. & yes, consultants etc. get too much money. it is an unfair system. so many people want to even get a job... just to have some money coming in means a lot.

@Manic Miner he's old now of course, but he's still got lead in his pencil☺️

I don’t mind paying some of the fees for a decent AandE service. I wish they had AandE covered by medical insurance…. I think those who are on social welfare shouldn’t pay but those who can afford to pay should pay or get covered by some insurance plan.. what matters is some health security

Hahaha what a rubbish example. Bronchiolitis is so common every winter, nearly every child experiences it at some point in their life. Nothing to do with the lockdown.

Must have been a Mirage.

Them days are gone 😆

Only if they do the Work.

Not on at all. Hopefully wasn't in too much pain. Sadly, just another day in Tory Britain.

@@muirislandjim453 nah, NHS has been like this since the 2000s

@@Rob_-km9rl objectively it hasnt tho