Why The Texas Made Model Y Is About To Take Over! 

I believe there is one issue missed in this presentation. They refer to the "surprise" of which factory your car will come from as being revealed on delivery. Acutally prior to delivery you will be assigned a VIN for your car. The 11th charcter in that VIN identifies the factory "F" or "A" where the vehicle was built.

I believe the plan is to ramp up Texas, then retool Fremont for the new cells and castings. The cant afford to take Fremont off line for major changes until Texas is running at a good clip. Chip shortage might actually help in this instance - Texas can take all or most of the chip slack when Fremont is down. Limiting the impact of taking a factory out of production.

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I don’t know about others but someone showed me a car with very good performance, comfort, and high tech, then he opened the hood and there was nothing there, then he opened the trunk and that was empty as well, and that I have never seen before. The car was Tesla, truly an engineering marvel.

Regarding the 4680 tabless design. I would use the analogy of a train full of passengers. If you open one door at each end of the train to disembark, it's going to create a bottleneck of passengers walking the length of the train. The 4680 is all doors open, short path to the exit. Fast, less energy used getting there.

I am assuming that all of the latest innovations--high pressure injection moldings, advanced structural batteries and tray are not only improving product quality, but also reducing the cost of production. Given all this, I would expect these innovations to go into the C.A. factory very quickly.

Great video! This is the first time I've fully understood how the 4680 battery works (the bridge analogy was perfect) and how the structural pack pack is made up. Kudos 👌🏾

I take delivery on a Model Y performance on February 12th coming from Fremont. I was torn between which I was looking forward to (prior to receiving the VIN number that shows where it's made). On the one hand having 4680s would have a lot of benefit as you mentioned in your video, and on the other hand there's something to be said for tried and true. In the end I guess I'm a little disappointed not to get the 4680s, but I'm extremely happy to be getting a Model Y. 🙂

I will definitely only accept a Texas Gigafactory built Model Y. And yes I have already ordered mine.

Another awesome video dude!! Where in Canada are you located?

There is literally no video that helps make all the changes make sense to the average guy like this. Really well done

Great video. Thanks for explaining. I will def wait to buy mine.

This was so incredibly great. Fantastic job. Subscribed.

I do NOT want a 4680 on my Model Y because it’s a Gen1 product and I do not want to deal with all the problems that comes with being a first adopter. Now, if I was ordering a Model Y in 2023 or 2024, sure. But now: not thanks!

well done I found it very informative! I have a Y and buying another and since the one I have is perfect I will be happy if the next one is the same.

Model Y from Austin for the Win! I'm hoping my December Model Y dual-motor also has v4 FSD hardware as well.

Wow what an informative video! Thanks.

I ordered my MY LR FSD in October with original delivery sometime in March. I’m in the Philadelphia area. Recently my delivery was changed to early May?? Austin or Freemont ?? Any guesses??

I'll wait for the Texas version . But my concern is the ride factor. They need improvement on the suspension and /or need to go to air ride like the X model.

Excellent Tesla channel! We have a model Y on order for delivery in June. We’ll cancel before taking a CA model.

I have also heard that the Texas-built Model Y will have an air suspension system, which could be a tremendous benefit for my situation, since my driveway has a somewhat steep incline compared to the street, and a Tesla Model 3 scrapes the bottom of the front body panel when entering/exiting the driveway onto the street. A Model Y (with only a driver inside) is very close to scraping the body as well, and would probably do so at a speed any faster than a turtle.

I ordered a model Y in October to lock in my price & hope to get the new battery's when they come out. And now that they have, my delivery in the next few weeks may be that new model Y. I will reject delivery if it's not a Texas built. No rush to get a new car, especially when the resale value will be much higher when all their new cars have the new battery's in the future.

My new Model Y is supposed to be delivered this August which I ordered last November. Originally I was ok with getting the 2170 cells because I was happy to upgrade from my 2014 MS. Because of all the delays I’m kinda hoping to get one made in Gigafactory Texas just wanting “the latest and the greatest “. Either way I’m excited for my new car. George (my MS) was good to me but I’m definitely looking forward to my Y (yet to be named).

Just put an order last month, delivery expected in August 🤞🤞🤞 hopefully getting the new 4680 and the new Ryzen Processor

What a great problem to have - do I want the best, or the one that's better than the best? I think the only way they can avoid Osbourning the Fremont vehicles is to put a premium price and label on the TX models with all of the upgrades. They can call them Ludacris, Plaid, or Texas Edition or whatever and charge an extra $10K or something. They'll have to or else they will get a bunch of people who will reject the Fremont ones in favor of a TX one. It will be the most expensive car I have ever bought, by a country mile, but if the stock does okay over the next year or so, I plan to get two M Ys, and then trade in one of them for a CYBRTRK when it comes out.

Yes I would reject the California built Tesla

For those that do not know this, if it has the letter "F" as the eleventh character of the VIN, then it is from Fremont. (Apologies if this was already mentioned, but for me the 265 comments as a whole were TLDR).

Just ordered a model y long range with a delivery in august. Will it have the 4680 batteries?

Great video! Tesla should quickly ramp up production in Texas and then flip a switch and turn off production in California. Then do an event highlighting all of the changes and updates to the “new model Y“. Then they can use the space in the California plant to adequately ramp up production of the new model S and X

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i have a model Y coming to me June-July i hope it has the 4680 new batteries 😃

My guess is that with a shorter range car your going to still need blank battery cells to still meet the structural requirements so for the first cars coming out of Texas they will only have enough cells to match the same specs as the California version. Then as they bring California factory inline then they'll put 100% active cells in the car.

If they just keep the range the same by not using as many 4680 batteries, yeah the charging might not be as fast but other than that the other advantages aren’t massive unless the speed and charging, safety… etc is massively increased but I guess we don’t know those numbers yet either

My Y is scheduled for delivery in August. I will also extend the delivery if the VIN indicates it's coming from somewhere other than TX.

If you're picky about which version you get, the first question is, how do you tell them apart?

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I recall seeing that the Austin factory will supply orders coming from east of the Mississippi, and Fremont handles everything west. Obviously that's subject to change, but it's what I've seen cited a few places so far.

do model 3's get the same treatment with the new batteries and everything else as well?

The Performance model for the east coast will get the 4680 and die cast front and rear. The long range will get die cast front and rear but probably get the iron phosphate batteries. The iron phosphate is in greater supply and the 4680 is needed for CyberTruck and Semi and Roadster. But we will see….. I’m in Florida and my Performance Y delivery is end of February to end of March. I would think out of Texas but won’t know till the vin is assigned .

Should be faster charge rate and more time charging at the faster rate. Lower internal resistance coupled with a better thermal path should result in some pretty phenomenal charge times.

Just turned away a Fremont build model y, patiently waiting for texas

I guess the only way to know would be once you get the VIN. On VIN, there’s A for Austin made and F for Fremont build MY.

I just ordered a model Y and am expecting delivery July/Aug. Is there anyway to confirm which factory mine is coming from?

One likely way to ensure routing your order to Austin will be the color selection. The new paint shop in Austin will be able to offer the three new shades that are not likely to be supported by the primitive paint shop in Fremont. In fact, the cost of upgrading Fremont to match Austin's build capability could be extremely prohibitive. I can't wait to see the new options (and prices) in the configurator around March! BTW -- one other improvement the video missed is the 10% weight reduction Elon mentioned on Battery Day due to the structural battery pack and 4680's reducing the need for additional steel bracing currently required.

They can continue to build both types of Y from each plant. They price the Y differently. Fremont-built would be $5k-$8k cheaper than Austin-built Y.

mine getting delivered on August and honestly I'm very grateful I can afford one and don't really care honestly where it is coming from as long as it will be reliable :)

Model S & X have changed a lot with the new refresh. Sandy Monroe has been doing a teardown of a new Model S, check it out maybe. They're very impressed with the improvements over the old version.

You have no clue if the differences make a long-term difference. I live in Austin and rode in one of the first MYs off the gigaTexas production line almost a month ago. Very cool car and I agree very sexy tech. My guess is they will be similar and you won't know for a year if there is any noticable differences. Remember the Ys being produce now in Texas are using 4680s made at Keto. I'm guessing the 4680 line at Texas won't be fully functional for say another 3 months. Do you really want a car made with a NEW battery made in a NEW plant before the production line has worked out all the kinks?

Got a may - June est delivery date on the east coast, I honestly don’t know why it’s taking this long rather just get a Fremont built one ordered in September sigh

You think if i order one now I would get one with the new batteries??

Man I ordered mine July 21 but I could only buy it 2 weeks ago. My y performance is 2022 and will arrive to me on March 1st and I’m very excited to know which version is mine, praying to be Texas’.

My guess is they will offer a single motor long range cheaper Y and build those in Fremont and Texas will have the more expesive dual motors and 4680 batteries coming out of there.

I wish they would announce what the spec's are for Texas

Have a model y performance ordered delivered date keeps moving up. Originally it was set to deliver in April then end of March now its say beginning of March. I wonder if I'm moving up because people are postponing or are they making more model y then expected. I'm In the east coast so hopefully it will be a Austin car

It would be nice if the 4680 will allow dual supercharger where two chargers load

Model Y LR due Feb25-Mar25 in NY. After all the waiting and research I must have an Austin built Y. I will play the game of delaying delivery if I have to. I’m keeping my fingers crossed 😊

Will the revised Model Y have air suspension?

I’m new to your channel. Enjoyed listening to your rendition of how Tesla MY’s are built & difference of batteries. I took delivery of my 2021 LR MY Oct 2020. It was a Fremont built & it is fine. Accerlation, Room & Handling are all fine. 👍☺️

What is the range of the Texas model Y?

Real question will there be less batteries to maintain current range instead of giving a longer range model y. I'm wanting a 400mi Y.

I hope this new battery will make the Model Y performance even more performant!! Even more acceleration!

Mine is scheduled to come in May and I am hoping for the Texas version. I am thinking the only way I will know is when the VIN number is sent

I’ll just stick with my current order model 3 LFP battery. I’ll wait to see if 4680 battery are worth it

The sales order agreement also says that once the order is placed not only would you lose the $250, but also Tesla says we agree that the $1,200 delivery fee is “”earned” and deemed liquidated damages they are entitled to if order is canceled/agreement breached…

Is there a place in the system that will help new owners identify what battery is installed?

I canceled my Fremont Model Y order the other day and will wait for the 4680 Texas Y. Tesla sales has called me twice now asking if I am sure I want to do this. I will lose my $250 deposit but figure that by 2023 a Fremont Y will not be as good as an investment.

Is the 4680 larger or smaller than a D cell for comparison ?

If you watch the Sandy Monroe tare-down of the plaid model S it is clearly not the 'same old model S' as you mention in this video with remarkable new suspension design, described as a "symphony of integrated parts from various departments.

I am expecting one in mid FEB to mid March. Once I get the VIN, I would know it. I don't think I can hold it again this time if it ends up being the Freemont one. I held the Nov delivery last year, and I had to wait this long.

I'll take the pickup truck until yall adopt interstate EVO charging stations. we're behind just a lil bit

I’m expecting my MYP mid Feb to mid Mar. I’ll update with where it was built when I receive my VIN. I live in Texas. I’m hoping for an Austin build.

Is there any chance we find out that Fremont is already geared up to produce 4680 model Ys? Castings - We know they’ve been using the rear casting in Fremont, how hard to get the front castings implemented on the line? I understand the same machine can produce both. Battery Supply - Elon didn’t say they ‘only have enough for Texas’ he just said that batteries won’t be a constraint in 2022. Maybe they have enough. As for the increased power and charging speed, maybe it is just unlocked with software in the future, for free or for a fee.

If I was able to get a Texan made model over a Freemont, would I be able to? That’s the problem, will Tesla allow you to wait till one is available? And how long?

Just got my VIN today for my MYP, delivery Feb 19th. Based on the VIN, it's a Freemont build. I will delay or postpone this order, even if it's for 2 or 3 months to try and get the Texas built model. We all know fit and finish is still problematic at the Freemont factory, so the new build in Texas likely can't be that much worse. ! I want the lighter and more rigid car with newer battery design for longevity. Would be nice to see those ventilated seats show up, too!!

We love all aspects of our brand new, Shanghai made, UK registered Model Y Long Range on standard 19inch rims, except for one potentially fatal flaw - NVH (Noise, Vibration and Harshness) of the Model Y designs of Giga castings are still in serious doubt, in our view. OEM's of ICE vehicles have had to give serious design attention to isolating NVH from rear suspension sub-frames on their vehicles, such as in the BMW X5, as just one example. We have loved the almost 2 years now of Model 3 Long Range ownership. We are also Tesla shareholders and have a reservation on a Model X Plaid so, we could be called Tesla fans. However, we collected our brand new, UK Model Y Long Range last Wednesday, 23rd February 2022, to run alongside our Model 3. From the Shanghai Giga factory, our Model Y seems to have a rear aluminium die-cast, Giga casting and pressed steel fabricated front frame. Driving back from the NEC to Loughborough, the Model Y had horribly loud, low frequency sound pressure wave booming in the cabin, caused by either, some manufacturing fault(s) or by design, inadequate NVH isolation of the rear suspension and Giga cast chassis frame from the cabin, as the tyres run on the road surface. We get headaches and ear pain from this loud, low frequency, resonating booming - even at low speed, each time we drive this Model Y. The car also seems to be so harshly suspended and so unsettled on the road, that even on basic Autopilot and without turning the wheel at all, it fidgets from side to side at speed and makes us feel nauseous - something we have never experienced before in any vehicle and certainly, not in our excellent Model 3 Long Range. The booming, deep reverberation, amplified within the cabin volume as the suspension crashes over bumps, is like having the bass turned up high at a rock concert and the drummer giving it special attention every time a rear wheel drums over a road imperfection. Tesla UK Sales say that "as the car is obviously not for us" they can only offer a full refund and that we should return it to Tesla. Tesla Service have been persuaded to cut their initial waiting time of 1 month to Friday this week, for us to demonstrate this problem to them.Tesla owner's forums seem to regard this as a common Model Y fault. We love our Model 3 that seems not to have any Giga castings and certainly, does not display any of these awful symptoms. But, we draw the line at having had to pay £55,000 for a Model Y Long Range, to suffer so much unpleasantness as for it to be undriveable by us. Even ear plugs don't seem to help much, as the bass reverberation seems to resonate within one's skull. Until finally resolved by Tesla, the car is just a very expensive piece of driveway art. After waiting so long for the Model Y to be available in the UK, we are very disappointed so far. So for us, we feel that the jury is out on the whole question of whether NVH of Giga cast chassis frames, as currently designed, manufactured and supplied by Tesla, actually give an acceptable quality of vehicle to the end user, despite the obvious manufacturing cost and efficiency benefits to Tesla.

Well done

The issue I have with the model Y is that they are not made for taller people very well. The seats are narrow and needs more headroom before I can consider buying one. If they can make something with enough room in it like a F150, I will be more than willing to buy one

If I order model y now, will I get the Texas built?

What about a better suspension?

WROOOONG!! Plaid has alot of alu castings in it!!!!!

Holding out for a Texas built Y

Tesla should drop the price of model y with older technology , this should pacify some pissed off customers not getting the Model Y, made in Texas

Yes, I am one on the waiting list, and Yes I prefer an Austin built Model Y.

you'll know when you're assigned your Vin, if it ends in F it's from Fremont

Any idea if/when the 4680 battery will make it to the model 3?

My MY long range was scheduled to be delivered early Feb. Timeline has been moved to late Feb/early March. I hope that’s because it will come from Austin but only after the factory is cleared for production by regulators. Hope hope hope.

I am waiting for the MY from Giga Berlin with 4680, so I will wait a while longer.

Will the new 4680 battery pack make servicing the batteries more difficult or even impossible?

No surprise on delivery day. You get the VIN early and that’s how you know.

Elon said on earnings call Austin would produce for Eastern US so you sort of know which one you are getting.

how do cells get replaced

The distribution of model Ys from the Fremont versus the Texas plant will be determined geographically; so if you want a structural 4680 equipped model Y make sure you order it in the eastern part of the United States

I'd be curious how the new battery pack impact the potential repairability of the battery pack. I wonder how they would repair or replace a cell or group of cells without replacing the whole thing. With the current battery system this is a huge hassle, but a pack of cells can feasibly be replaced. If this is a structural component of the car I would also be worried about having a very fancy paperweight if anything goes wrong out of warranty. It may have been addressed but I haven't seen or read anything about it.

Will they be offering this battery on future model 3s?

LFP is Fremont. 4680 long range and performance is Texas.

Berlin gigafactory is also going to be using 3689 batteries.

I have a delivery for April Long range model Y. I have a locked in price, I know. 3 questions: Will I get a Texas model Y? If not should should I reserve another model Y for end of year delivery? I don’t mind losing 250 dollars. Will tesla offer me a Texas model Y for an additional fee for the 4680 version?

Back in January, Tesla Fremont factory celebrated having built up one million 4860 cells.

Just been advised that my MY is available early March … Do I cancel ?