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Why US Special Forces Switched to the SCAR (briefly) 

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While the SCAR-Light and -Heavy were designed and built in tandem, their performance and service histories diverged in 2010. The weapons were mostly living up to the hype but there were some early teething issues holding them back. Every weapon runs into this teething problems but what makes the difference between success and failure is how easy it is to correct these early problems. In the case of the SCAR, the Light version named the MK 16 had the misfortune of having more issues and less capability advances than its heavier MK17 version.
Written by: Chris Cappy & Diego Aceituno
Edited by: Michael Michaelides
The MK 16 had the distinction of creating a brand new class of malfunction never seen before. It was particularly vulnerable to double and triple feed malfunctions from bad magazines. Bad or worn magazines were pretty common to most weapons around the 2000-2010 timeframe.All that extra space above the bolt and carrier assembly ironically could make the weapon less reliable as extra rounds from a multi feed malfunction went straight up into the enlarged recesses built for the operating rod. In barney style layman’s terms this means the weapon had just enough space for thin 5.56 rounds to get stuck in the attic, but not enough extra space for them to fall back out. US Army special forces veteran Jeff Gurwitch said he saw a squadmate with 4 empty casings stuck in his FN Scars chamber. What’s next an octopulet feed error?
Reportedly the only way to clear the jam was a time consuming field strip of the weapon.
Another problem was actually caused by SOCOM itself and quickly turned into the SCAR’s most controversial “feature.” In the requirements drawn up, someone involved in the drafting was convinced a reciprocating charging handle was key to a weapon’s reliability. That means that as each round is fired the charging handle moves forward and back with the bolt instead of staying fixed in place like on the M4. The thought process behind this was a soldier could use the charging handle like a forward assist, pushing a gummed-up bolt into battery with a quick slap.
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@Taskandpurpose
@Taskandpurpose 9 месяцев назад
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@Robloxman560
@Robloxman560 9 месяцев назад
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@ProfessionalPFChangsExpert
@ProfessionalPFChangsExpert 9 месяцев назад
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@jackbiliny2435
@jackbiliny2435 9 месяцев назад
In that washing video i think that is Bren 2 but im not 100% sure...
@undefined7141
@undefined7141 9 месяцев назад
19th 18Deeboi here. I can say two things, 1. Change your socks 2. The scar is trash.
@JohnZ556
@JohnZ556 9 месяцев назад
Correction: The pressure washing was on Bren2.🤣 Monolithic rail is still not a standard feature nowadays, you pretty much have to go with LMT for that. Plus the rail on Scars16/17 are too short for full length barrel, you will likely want to add an extended rail and/or a bipod to help not rest the barrel on objects while shooting. SCAR 16/17 barrel is held in by only 4 screws through the receiver, not 6, so 2 on each side. The super gassy 'M4's shown are mostly HK416. (I can hear HK fanbois 'This is less gassy than M4/DI !', while paying for ultra-cucked and super expensive MR556)
@saber8156
@saber8156 9 месяцев назад
don't know much about US Weapon Development but one time I saw this cat in front of the ice cream store and it let me pet it.
@Mumbamumba
@Mumbamumba 9 месяцев назад
Hero.
@rob6850
@rob6850 9 месяцев назад
I got a *scar* from cutting my pinky on a cat food can 27 years ago.
@alantaylor353
@alantaylor353 9 месяцев назад
A truly wonderful moment to tell your grand kids about.! 😉 😉
@ShadowReaper-pu2hx
@ShadowReaper-pu2hx 9 месяцев назад
I saw a bird on the floor that just stood still while I pet it (maybe its wings weren’t working, IDK).
@azkrouzreimertz9784
@azkrouzreimertz9784 9 месяцев назад
This is the kind of thinking that drives humanity forward, thank you for sharing your story.
@PolenarTactical
@PolenarTactical 9 месяцев назад
1:15 - those are not a SCAR rifles, those are BREN 2 rifles from CZ
@R.d.M360
@R.d.M360 9 месяцев назад
Czech SCAR 🤷‍♂️
@mitchjames9350
@mitchjames9350 9 месяцев назад
These modular rifles all look the same.
@cocobearnoski
@cocobearnoski 9 месяцев назад
apparently those bren 2s are great, i should get one
@rays5073
@rays5073 9 месяцев назад
Didn't expect Ziga here, but happily surprised
@matthewh271
@matthewh271 9 месяцев назад
I thought I was the only one to notice it lol thanks man
@adanielweaver
@adanielweaver 9 месяцев назад
The SCAR H really is a miracle with how light the recoil feels. It shoots almost like an AR 15. I've always wanted one, and hope to someday get a civilian version.
@timwooten7165
@timwooten7165 9 месяцев назад
So pricy though
@Autobotmatt428
@Autobotmatt428 9 месяцев назад
Honestly the military just needed a light wight 7.62 dmr and they got the with the Scar H the L was more of an unneeded bonus
@a-a-ron8437
@a-a-ron8437 9 месяцев назад
because its heavy ASF
@caleballen9765
@caleballen9765 9 месяцев назад
Loud af tho lol
@cmangrum1
@cmangrum1 9 месяцев назад
Get ready to pay $3k+
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 9 месяцев назад
I used a MK17(Scar H with shorter barrel) while in Afghanistan. It was a great rifle. Accurate, light, easy to use. The only real issue is carrying 7.62NATO. I was only able to carry 5-6 mags at a time. But that’s not a dock against the rifle itself.
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 9 месяцев назад
@@northscrow9316 Both are long short stroke gas piston rifles. The H(MK17) is a 7.62x51 caliber rifle. And the L(MK16) is a 5.56 rifle.
@robertcunningham9626
@robertcunningham9626 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for serving in the armed forces helping to defend our great country!
@grahamconquer8117
@grahamconquer8117 9 месяцев назад
How could u use a scar if u only had 30mags but a7.62 rifle
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 9 месяцев назад
@@grahamconquer8117 What? The Scar H takes 20 round mags. And I only carried 6 of them during the brief period I had it.
@haroombrother
@haroombrother 9 месяцев назад
​@@grahamconquer8117????? Scar H got 20 rounds mag the 30 one was Scar L
@331SVTCobra
@331SVTCobra 9 месяцев назад
The charging handle issue is totally the fault of the program office. Operators needed to be involved at the EMD phase and that is where this issue should have been captured. Even if the requirements called for this type of charging handle, the systems engineers should have done their job and revised the requirement. If that actually was a requirement, it's a bad one. A requirement shouldn't be a design solution.
@BravoOneCharlie
@BravoOneCharlie 9 месяцев назад
They did remedy that on newer models. You can even see in this video on the small PDW shown later in the video that those SCARS don't reciprocate.
@tommccormick9290
@tommccormick9290 9 месяцев назад
I find that hard to believe the M4 had 882 stoppages out of 6000 rounds tested. That's almost one every 7 shots! That's got to be a mistake. I've put 3000+ through my M4 style rifle with zero stoppages.
@CorgiWrangler
@CorgiWrangler 9 месяцев назад
​@tommccormick9290 you have to assume the testers were given a wink and a nudge to really shoot the m4 under less than ideal conditions...
@abcdefbcdefg8352
@abcdefbcdefg8352 9 месяцев назад
@@tommccormick9290 you would figure that being 4 times more reliable wouldve trumped most of the other issues, until they stopped juicing their results, lol
@uummmnocoolnames
@uummmnocoolnames 9 месяцев назад
You're missing the part where the SCAR was the only rifle considered for the program BECAUSE they followed the obviously stupid requirement. There's a reason "the customer is always right" is a business adage - if you tell them they're wrong, they tend to spend their money where someone will tell them what they want to hear.
@GeraudRulz
@GeraudRulz 9 месяцев назад
The SCAR-Light isn't enough of an improvement over the M4 to justify the cost but I can definitely see why the SCAR-Heavy is so much more of an improvement over the M14 rifle, which is basically just a modernised M1-Garand with a box magazine.
@zoiders
@zoiders 9 месяцев назад
It was an improvement over SR-25s more than anything. They were too fussy with ammunition. The SCAR-H eats almost any 7.62.
@mertc8050
@mertc8050 7 месяцев назад
Rm 227 is veerrryyyy gud tho
@raspiankiado
@raspiankiado 5 месяцев назад
It's basically an FAL. No literally, internal-wise, same chambering, same except that HORRID furniture.
@AFreeThinkingDawg09
@AFreeThinkingDawg09 4 месяца назад
@@zoidersit’s definitely not an improvement over the sr25. It’s one of the most accurate DMR in the Arsenal, leaps and bounds over the scar. Have you ever shot a scarH? They’re not very accurate or pleasant to shoot compared to a DI 762 and they’re huge in comparison with all the plastic. Definitely wasn’t an improvement but it wasn’t supposed to be replacing the sr25 anyways
@slaytanic921
@slaytanic921 4 месяца назад
@@zoidersscar h also eats optics
@masimak
@masimak 9 месяцев назад
I was contracted in mid 2011 by an arms manufacturer in Gilbert AZ to reverse the SCAR poly Lower and modify it suitable for machining in 7075-T7, with goal of optimizing use of PMAGS and obviously prevent any jamming. They made prototype and eventually production units.
@dbSteelyPhil
@dbSteelyPhil 2 месяца назад
Quentin
@carsonkouts
@carsonkouts 9 месяцев назад
I saw quite a few SCARs being used downrange. Primarily ranger regiment and group, and mainly the 17. saw a handful of 16s, surprisingly most of them were being used by the ANA and ANASF. Always cracked me up that the Afghans got to rock brand new SCARs while we had some beat to hell m4s
@johnhenry4844
@johnhenry4844 9 месяцев назад
Guess the Taliban rocking them now
@justiron2999
@justiron2999 9 месяцев назад
The US government will fight tooth and nail to arm the enemy and terrorists for some reason. While also persecuting it's won citizens.
@BlackMarvel25
@BlackMarvel25 8 месяцев назад
Youre lucky i saw a POG unit using old m16's in Afghanistan. Like a2 ones. Lol
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 9 месяцев назад
Great episode. FN changed the reciprocating charging handle to non reciprocating awhile ago. They also made modifications to prevent the double feeds. Both the 7.62 and 5.56 versions are excellent rifles but they are a tad expensive.
@flexinclouds
@flexinclouds 9 месяцев назад
Arent the new Sig spears like $10-15k each now? I think cappy said something like that back when he reviewed them😳😅
@annekedebruyn7797
@annekedebruyn7797 9 месяцев назад
I also love how they fixed the handle. It was such as simple and elegant solution that I often wonder if it truly was a fix or that it was the original intended design.
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
@@annekedebruyn7797I think in previous videos, the side charging handle was suppose to be it, but the Military testers kept grabbing for the T handle on muscle memory and Sig added that feature back, but that was also 2-3 years ago so YMMV.
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
@@annekedebruyn7797If you're talking about the SCAR, it was purely a case of being told the SCAR will have this feature, but it was FN that put it in that position where you could jam it in a certain spot behind cover or get "SCAR Thumb" from how you held the rifle.
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 9 месяцев назад
Tad expensive is an understatement. They're way overpriced on the civilian market. Starting at $3k for a rifle is too much money.
@thomasf.9869
@thomasf.9869 9 месяцев назад
Firearms manufacturing in the area where Belgium, Germany and the Netherlands come together actually predates the industrial revolution by centuries. The bottom floor of the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam is full of muskets and flintlock pistols manufactured in this area, dating back to the Eighty Years War which started in 1556.
@juanblanco7898
@juanblanco7898 9 месяцев назад
That's cool
@joostdriesens3984
@joostdriesens3984 9 месяцев назад
The Dutch military had problems at the time to get enough pikemen for their pike-and-shot formations as most soldiers preferred the cool new firearms! You don't have get up close in the fight and it creates a big boom.
@doelbaughman1924
@doelbaughman1924 9 месяцев назад
Wow! Did not know that. Thanks for sharing! Wish I'd visited when i was stationed in GE.
@thomasvan7738
@thomasvan7738 9 месяцев назад
I read that Liege, the city where FN is headquartered, has had weapon production since the Middle Ages (swords and such)
@Jugement
@Jugement 5 месяцев назад
Netherlands were in their golden age back then, they were a world class superpower with their navy only second to the british, and had the original and biggest East India Company. Its absolutely not comparable to today in all honnesty
@Militaryarmschannel
@Militaryarmschannel 9 месяцев назад
Great info. Just a FYI, the rifles at 1:20 are Bren 2's. They are a knock off of the SCAR but they're Czech, not Belgian. There are a ton of them showing up in Ukraine.👊
@acemarshals3211
@acemarshals3211 9 месяцев назад
Yes foreign fighters are often given the cz bren in Ukraine
@pimptasticone
@pimptasticone 9 месяцев назад
@militaryarmschannel - "knockoff of a SCAR"? No, SCAR was a program at USSOCOM and the Bren 2 was designed along those same requirements. If Colt made it's SCAR entry available to the market, would be a knockoff of the FN?
@zharnama
@zharnama 9 месяцев назад
Exactly!
@asdf-sr1ny
@asdf-sr1ny 9 месяцев назад
Did this guy really claim bren is a SCAR knock off lmao. A true firearms expert
@acemarshals3211
@acemarshals3211 9 месяцев назад
@@asdf-sr1ny ikr
@TY-pf6vb
@TY-pf6vb 9 месяцев назад
The Scar will always have a special place in my heart I love this rifle in video games.
@jmc4935
@jmc4935 9 месяцев назад
I always love your ASVAB jokes / references! They always make me lol. Thank you for keeping it fun and light, while teaching us plebs. Love your passion and humility! All the best and keep up the great work.
@fallskjermjeger.
@fallskjermjeger. 9 месяцев назад
I bought a new scar16s right after I ETSed last year, I just wanted it, and it's better than I expected. I love the later production M4a1 I had in the 82nd , so I didn't see a need for an overhaul but this rifle is fun and cool so they got my money, and thankfully no buyer's remorse.
@neiljasonvillanueva1864
@neiljasonvillanueva1864 9 месяцев назад
Was your later prdn M4A1 a SOCOM/heavy barrel or still gov't profile barrel.
@rascalmatt6713
@rascalmatt6713 9 месяцев назад
Former Ranger here. I was literally at the meeting the end of 2007 when our entire Battalion was briefed on the new, incoming SCAR family of rifles. Yes, the 7.62x39 option was discussed at that time. "Battle field pick up" i believe they coined the concept. I'm long since out now... i have my own 16 and 17 and BLOCK 2. What i don't like about ANY of those rifles is the recoil impulses. With the SCAR rifles you have that large reciprocating mass coming forward, creating a recoil impulse that is not desirable when shooting while standing, unsupported. With the Block 2, it's not as pronounced but it's still a "Carbine length gas system" which is much worse than Mid length or longer systems when firing from a standing position or even the prone. If i went into combat again, i'd rather just take a BCM Mk2 16" mid length with either picatinny or MLOK and CHF chrome lined barrel and some kind of can. I shoot a lot of long range now and the 16" barrel on the SCAR17 just doesn't cut it IMHO. It's not accurate enough either IMHO, nor does it have the velocity i'd want. If i'm shooting 7.62x51 in combat in a support by fire role or even as an assaulter, i want a 20" barrel. hitting targets consistently beyond 800 yards with a 16" barrel in that .308 caliber is not ideal.
@icebite9888
@icebite9888 3 месяца назад
is this your honest opinion?
@rascalmatt6713
@rascalmatt6713 3 месяца назад
@@icebite9888 I realize some guys are running around Ukraine with the 17 and seem to love it. If they had a reliable SCAR17 type rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, with 18'-20" barrel... that would probably be ideal but i've heard they have had a lot of problems with the 6.5 CM variant. A lot of guys love that big .308 caliber in combat scenarios because it drops people on contact. I really don't like the forward double recoil impulse of the SCAR rifles. I don't enjoy shooting them while standing unsupported. I also like shooting long range and .308 out of a 16" barrel is meant for about 600 yards and in. I can hit a milk jug in 3 shots at 1,006 yards with my Noveske 18" SPR in 5.56 shooting 77 grain OTM's but i am probably not hitting that jug with the SCAR 17 and .308 175 grain ammo. Just saying. I averaged about 3/10 hit ratio at 1k yards on a competition silhouette no matter how many times i tried, it always worked out to about 3/10 hit or so. You're probably going to average just over 1MOA for accuracy with the SCAR rifles. Are they reliable ? People seem to think so... but they're not super accurate and at this point... they're pretty out dated.
@icebite9888
@icebite9888 3 месяца назад
@@rascalmatt6713 chill, i was making a joke about you saying IMHO twice in the same sentence xD
@ILruffian
@ILruffian 3 месяца назад
Spot on. From what I've read, the SCAR-H is used when specing optics proposals. Because if that thing can't destroy a scope with recoil, nothing can.
@vojvodaveleski
@vojvodaveleski Месяц назад
😊
@emptyforrest
@emptyforrest 9 месяцев назад
The SCAR is one of the dopest looking guns out there. And being cool adds to combat effectiveness. You can quote me on that.
@wolflegion_
@wolflegion_ 9 месяцев назад
1:28 cappy’s face whilst riding the thunder has me dying hahaha
@richardsalazar4817
@richardsalazar4817 9 месяцев назад
Portugal went all in on the scar 16 and 17. On that note, the scar has definitely left its mark in the industry, with countries like Czech, Poland, and japan implementing design features in there newly developed rifles.
@leileijoker8465
@leileijoker8465 9 месяцев назад
Because they were transitioning from the G3. If an army already has AR type rifle as the mainline issued weapon, it makes no sense to switch to any other type of 556 rifle.
@muhammadnursyahmi9440
@muhammadnursyahmi9440 9 месяцев назад
Poland's rifle are based on ACR, not SCAR
@dewdew80
@dewdew80 9 месяцев назад
Good enough to be considered by SOCOM while cheap enough because that same well-funded group eventually dumped them. I imagine countries with decent funds but more frugal militaries budgets would love to buy that sort of weapon at a discount.
@muhammadnursyahmi9440
@muhammadnursyahmi9440 9 месяцев назад
@dewdew80 SOCOM only adopted SCAR-H version, because there are no other battle rifles that are as light as SCAR-H. SCAR-L was not adopted because it doesn't provide more advantages than a M4A1, especially SOPMOD program modernized the platform.
@richardsalazar4817
@richardsalazar4817 9 месяцев назад
@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 the SCAR L is super light too, noticeably lighter then a SCAR H. I have no idea how much a M4A1 weighs in comparison to a SCAR L? I'll check it out though.
@leiac3163
@leiac3163 9 месяцев назад
Great video!! Love how in depth this channel gets with its research!
@alcerixxia614
@alcerixxia614 9 месяцев назад
I think the Pmag issue is largely fixed by the release of the Gen 3 model, as the older Gen 2 model fiddled a bit too much with the bolt catch, causing some of the malfunctions (or that's what i heard). Also, it's funny that the Scar was required to have a reciprocating charging handle, when the ACR (or the Magpul Masada) developed about 3 years later already has this genius feature where the charging handle doesn't reciprocate but can still function as a forward assist when the bolt is not in battery.
@danielcamunez1777
@danielcamunez1777 9 месяцев назад
I love when you make videos about firearms. Keep them coming.
@dannymcbas6130
@dannymcbas6130 9 месяцев назад
As a hungarian service member I can confirm that the CZ Bren 2 (wich copied FN’s homework in my opinion) has the exact same issues as the Scar
@petrhanke8644
@petrhanke8644 9 месяцев назад
Czech here: I heard that Bren 2 is a huge step up from Bren 1 but still feels kind of “meh” even to our soldiers so it is more than fair to call BREN platform as “we have SCAR at home”
@dannymcbas6130
@dannymcbas6130 9 месяцев назад
@@hnojic one person of my squad had an issue that the rifle ejected live cartridge with an empty case. An other had double feed. One guy had his rifle broke into two pieces after he fell on it during a march.
@Leroy-Jenkem
@Leroy-Jenkem 9 месяцев назад
based hungary
@davidskr4924
@davidskr4924 9 месяцев назад
I would say that original CZ 805 BREN rifle copied FN SCAR. Bren 2 is more like copy of ACR.
@WitchyWagonReal
@WitchyWagonReal 9 месяцев назад
Well, in any event the “SCAR” covered in mud at the beginning of the video was a CZ Bren.
@madtvboy
@madtvboy 9 месяцев назад
It’s always interesting looking at new kit, weapons, and even vehicles that we trial within the 75th Ranger Regiment. Even within the Battalions there is a lot of variation in terms of how we choose to utilize our gear. Marty mentioned that 3/75 got rid of theirs in 2010, at 1/75 we still had them in our inventory when I ETS’ed in 2017. In 2014-16 they were all the rage, and then guys rapidly stopped using them after training with another USASOC unit that strongly disliked them. I enjoyed the platform, but I think the Block 2 M4 (M4 with full length, free-floating quad rail) and successive Urgi are fantastic all around work horse rifles. The SCAR is a fantastic rifle to have in the inventory as a contingency weapon based off of niche operational requirements, but beyond that supplemental role, a free-floated, quad rail M4 is a much better infantry rifle.
@zlpatriot11
@zlpatriot11 9 месяцев назад
In the Tom Clancy Ghost Recon games, the SCAR is one of my favorite weapons to use.
@jameslewis2635
@jameslewis2635 9 месяцев назад
My gaming memory of the SCAR comes from the original Crysis.
@st1ssl214
@st1ssl214 9 месяцев назад
@@jameslewis2635 the first crysis....man, thats a nostalgia hit
@leonardosalcido821
@leonardosalcido821 9 месяцев назад
In the real life the scar my primary 🤙
@SonOfTheChinChin
@SonOfTheChinChin 9 месяцев назад
yay video games = real life
@briancooper2112
@briancooper2112 9 месяцев назад
Get laid.
@nooddles12
@nooddles12 9 месяцев назад
Scar, brother, help me…
@77gravity
@77gravity 9 месяцев назад
The 7.62x51 NATO is a hard round to beat. Sure, it's heavy to carry, so your ammo count is lower, but it is SO effective.
@removedot
@removedot 9 месяцев назад
the new round seems like it finally really has it beat but we shall see. The pressure that round can put out is pretty crazy
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 9 месяцев назад
I carried a MK17 while overseas. 7.62 sucks. The difference between 7.62 and 5.56 is minimal at best. And having less rounds means you can’t fight as long. A real firefight isn’t like a movie. You fire a lot of rounds to gain fire superiority. And even with hour long fights, you might never hit someone. I switched to a different gun after my second firefight with the MK17, because I ran black on ammunition.
@danielaramburo7648
@danielaramburo7648 9 месяцев назад
It’s a good rifle, an improvement over the M4, but only a minor improvement, not enough to complicate the supply chain and logistics.
@808INFantry11X
@808INFantry11X 9 месяцев назад
Yeah thats been the issue with every rifle so far especially ones in 5.56 caliber in some areas they are better then the M4A1 but not outright better they excel in certain areas but unless it's an overall no question better its just not worth it. I even doubt the M7 rifle I going to replace the M4A1 entirely just because overall as standard service weapons its still meets the demands right now and in the near future.
@pnastysavage5510
@pnastysavage5510 9 месяцев назад
​@@808INFantry11XRead about this in the army times back in 2010, Socom found it wasteful, considering the army already paid for M4A1's at no cost to sof budget.
@guyman7776
@guyman7776 9 месяцев назад
That was basically what killed the XM8 as well. It was good but not so good that it was worth replacing all of the M4s and M16s for.
@pnastysavage5510
@pnastysavage5510 9 месяцев назад
@@guyman7776 That's right ! Honestly all of those weapons while excellent, were a waste of money considering that the M4 can be improved/upgraded to meet the needs of the modern millitary without retooling/retraining, just look at the new gieslie upper/lower improvment program for socom.
@guyman7776
@guyman7776 9 месяцев назад
@@pnastysavage5510 Sopmod really was a game changer
@ca9968
@ca9968 9 месяцев назад
The Heavy version was also tested by the Brits to be used as a DMR, strangely it lost out to the LMT L129A1 due to it being too light... The Brits sure do love their troops lugging around the heaviest kit they can find...
@gnarkiller
@gnarkiller 9 месяцев назад
I have a l129 clone I pieced together. It's a heavy gun but it runs like a champion. I'm hoping that Santa brings me a 6.5 creedmore barrel for Christmas
@brighthought11
@brighthought11 9 месяцев назад
I have owned the FN Scar17, x 2 actually, and a LMT is what I currently own, it does everything the Scar does and better except it is heavier. Scar is a nice gun, but there are better options: LMT, LWRC REPR, custom AR10 etc
@ca9968
@ca9968 9 месяцев назад
@@josedorsaith5261 Ah yes, the grossly overweight "Civil Servant"...it doesn`t work and you can`t fire it...
@zoiders
@zoiders 9 месяцев назад
It wasn't to do with that was it though. It was about the ability to accurately supress the enemy, as in rapid follow up shots. The SCAR was wanting in that department so the LMT won. The anti-Anglo bollocks you see trotted out by 100 yard flat range heroes is hilarious.
@ca9968
@ca9968 9 месяцев назад
@@zoiders i`m not "Anti-Anglo"...i`m British, served 6 years as a steely eyed killer and full time bullet magnet in an infantry regiment based in the North West...and yes, you are correct, the follow up shots were an issue (as Ian McCollum mentioned in his video covering the LMT...) I also served 2 years in the South African infantry so have fought in urban and bush environments with them and know better than most that there`s more to marksmanship than 100 yard flat ranges... Now please do tell me how the L85 is a great weapon system having very probably never even held anything different... I`ll wait...
@shanebuechner1429
@shanebuechner1429 9 месяцев назад
Well done video. There is a great deal of mis-information regarding the Scar series of weapon. You did a good job of sorting it out. Thanks
@Henrythef1rst
@Henrythef1rst 4 месяца назад
Was not expecting to hear you call out my local range at the end! Great work - shout out from here in Pburg!
@USpatriot87
@USpatriot87 9 месяцев назад
You showed a dirty CZ Bren rifle not a scar.
@swordmaster2k1
@swordmaster2k1 9 месяцев назад
There's also a SCAR hanging next to the Bren undergoing the same process. I saw the initial video on Twitter and the camera focuses on the Bren but the SCARs are in there getting pressure washed too.
@spawnpeekcentral1399
@spawnpeekcentral1399 9 месяцев назад
@@swordmaster2k1 no those are both BREN 2s if you zoom in you can see that iconic waffle pattern on the mag well I’m not being a d!ck head, but I remember when I worked with the Czechs a few months back I legit thought it was a SCAR-L at first glance
@QuickPLFMA
@QuickPLFMA 8 месяцев назад
@TaskandPurpose
@PythonVs1
@PythonVs1 9 месяцев назад
1:14 thats a damn CZ BREN, not a FN SCAR😭
@ahriboy
@ahriboy 9 месяцев назад
Pretty any weapon inspired by FN SCAR modularity could be confused with the latter. Type 20, Remington ACR, BREN, GROT are looking like SCAR.
@carl9091
@carl9091 9 месяцев назад
​@@ahriboythe bren was designed before the scar came out.
@jic1
@jic1 9 месяцев назад
And you spelled 'damn' wrong. Nobody's perfect.
@jic1
@jic1 9 месяцев назад
@@carl9091 Nope, SCAR was designed in 2004, BREN in 2009.
@swordmaster2k1
@swordmaster2k1 9 месяцев назад
There's a SCAR in there as well. The original video clip on Twitter focuses on the Bren, but the SCARs are there too.
@johnnycaps1
@johnnycaps1 9 месяцев назад
Great video. Informative, interesting and fun.
@crandall777
@crandall777 9 месяцев назад
Another fine video. As a senior retired non-veteran ,I learn so much about everything from your publication.
@WOLVERINE95899
@WOLVERINE95899 9 месяцев назад
Outstanding video Chris ! I worked at Aberdeen on the OCIW and we developed many versions of weapons slated to replace the M16/M4 platform. Most got past the development phase but were then dropped because of budget reasons in the end. The SCAR was darn lucky to actually make it that far.
@nickf4333
@nickf4333 9 месяцев назад
military budget? That’s hilarious
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
@@nickf4333Depends on which part of the military you're in. Just like Animal Farm, so divisions are more "equal" than others.
@timothypavlick76
@timothypavlick76 9 месяцев назад
This is EXACTLY the type of video I love. Thanks a lot!
@jordynmarie7766
@jordynmarie7766 9 месяцев назад
fantastic video, I hope to see more like it!
@11bravoNRD
@11bravoNRD 9 месяцев назад
Bought my 16S back in 2009. As stated there were issues with PMAGS double feeding but MAGPUL made changes to the design in version 3 that fixes that. Also there were forums online that showed how to mod gen 2 magazines that fixed the issue. Overall I can't complain about the rifle. It's accurate, comfortable, and trucks on like a champ.
@Dragon_Rider
@Dragon_Rider 9 месяцев назад
Outstanding research and information. Thank you for clarifying so many concerns.
@820hurleyj
@820hurleyj 9 месяцев назад
My 17S is my favorite rifle. I just happened to have it offered to me from my dealer because someone had ordered it and then canceled on him. So, it's also my most expensive rifle, but when I'm dead and gone, I'm taking it with me!
@wolf222555
@wolf222555 4 месяца назад
Always interesting, educational and well presented. Well done and a belated happy new year 2024!
@kocharjm
@kocharjm 9 месяцев назад
You should do a video on the ACR. I remember when that was supposed to be the weapon of tomorrow and it was in literally every aspect of media till like 2010, and then it vanished overnight. Now it seems like just a minor footnote in firearms history.
@seanoreiley48
@seanoreiley48 9 месяцев назад
Wasn’t there supposed to be a company manufacturing the ACR again?
@kocharjm
@kocharjm 9 месяцев назад
@@seanoreiley48 yes, you are correct. The last scholarly article I saw, had Bushmaster looking into re-creating it. However, they found out the price of manufacturing it was still going to be like 3k instead of the promised 1500 bucks, so it seemed like they were shelving the idea for now.
@Lawranceinsein
@Lawranceinsein 9 месяцев назад
@@seanoreiley48Just get the PSA Jakl
@yionnecantu
@yionnecantu 9 месяцев назад
( ​@@kocharjm) Bushmaster has the ACR for 6k on their website. I'm glad to see Bushmaster is back in business. My Law Enforcement Agency used them in early 2000s. ( Patrol Rifles)
@rustycheese1787
@rustycheese1787 8 месяцев назад
@@seanoreiley48 Magpul designed it and sold the rights to Bushmaster and Remington since they aren't a weapons manufacturer. Remington made the military/LEO version (modified to be about 2+ lbs lighter, customizable grips, moved the charging handle position, fully automatic, etc.) and Bushmaster made the civilian model. You can find them all over nowadays in many different variants and calibers. Some parts are hard, if not impossible, to find like the 6.8mm conversion kits. Most people have gunsmiths to the swap for them.
@doujinflip
@doujinflip 9 месяцев назад
I once dropped a couple hundred dollars trying out a variety of pieces at Battlefield Vegas, and the SCAR impressed me the most in terms of controllability.
@sde9023
@sde9023 9 месяцев назад
Shooting the 16 suppressed is even better, it's amazing how it dampens down the recoil impulse even more.
@Ideo7Z
@Ideo7Z 9 месяцев назад
Shot it there too and it was more controllable than my M16A1 when I was in.
@Rudyelf1
@Rudyelf1 9 месяцев назад
The guys there say that it is one of the most reliable and durable full autos.
@triadwarfare
@triadwarfare 9 месяцев назад
I always saw the SCAR on its desert paint. I think some game developers also never saw what the stock color of the SCAR as they always came with a desert tan color as the default skin.
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
You know a game developer is paying attention if they get the "50 Shades of FDE" on a SCAR correct.
@triadwarfare
@triadwarfare 9 месяцев назад
@@danielhenderson8316 sorry but what is FDE? Google isn't giving me useful answers as they think it's a Full Disk Encryption
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
@@triadwarfare Flat Dark Earth. It's suppose to be a specific color the military requested, but each different part of the SCAR is a completely different color. In the last 10 years or so it's been jokingly referred to as "50 Shades of FDE."
@psc19933
@psc19933 9 месяцев назад
my brother was CCT and they definitely used them. i have pictures of him with a suppressed Scar H. He said he never saw any type of SCAR L.
@numericbin9983
@numericbin9983 9 месяцев назад
Back in 2016, during an open door event organised by the Belgian Army, I took the GN FNC (5.56, steel, the gun from heat), seemed a bit heavy. The FN SCAR-L in comparison seemed lighter and a bit like a toy. But even for me, a civilian who had never touched a weapon before, the ergonomics were superb. The guy (armorer from an infantry unit) was in love with the weapon.
@djgesus
@djgesus 4 месяца назад
And one of the problems with the FNC is that it’s all metal so unlike the scar. Which makes it heavier and when it’s cold it’s horrendous to hold
@Fail.Better
@Fail.Better 9 месяцев назад
Thank you again for moving away from the "than you think" titles. Loving the new naming choices, it's much more accurate to the video itself.
@carljohnson4285
@carljohnson4285 9 месяцев назад
I worked with one of the Green Beret groups awhile back and they were using SCARs. Modified versions specifically for their missions. They still use the M4 Block 3&4, but the SCAR is still apart of their roster.
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 9 месяцев назад
You never worked with GB’s. There is not such thing as block 3 or block 4 M4’s. The only Scars GB’s use are MK17’s(which is what I used), and MK20’s. There is no “modified” Scars.
@carljohnson4285
@carljohnson4285 9 месяцев назад
@@darklyripley6138 yeah you tell the to guys in 7th group that changed out their barrels, buttstocks & etc
@mickeydapikey335
@mickeydapikey335 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Chris, this one in particular reminds me of 90s weekly TV series on Small Arms. Comforting nostalgia
@thomasfx3190
@thomasfx3190 8 месяцев назад
I served with the M-16A2 and frequently went to the range at JBLM. I don’t know if we just had old ammo but double feeds were a daily occurrence. Range safety officers walked up and down with cleaning rods clearing misfeeds / double feeds. It’s actually a bit frightening to get a double feed on a rifle with an intensely hot barrel.
@gdlb-tg5cy
@gdlb-tg5cy 3 месяца назад
Happy to hear about my hometown on your channel! 🇧🇪🤝🇺🇸
@jasonroberts9357
@jasonroberts9357 2 месяца назад
God bless you all! Much respect from this Texan!
@annekedebruyn7797
@annekedebruyn7797 9 месяцев назад
I wonder if the 'issues' with the SCAR was (partly) the reason why the HK416/HK417 became so popular world wide. The 416 platform had pretty much all the things the SCAR brought to the table but with the added benefit in being very similar to the M4 handling wise.
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
Like the M4, the 416 was a modification of an existing rifle while the SCAR was a clean sheet design. Don't forget H&K had similar problems with the G36 that early M4s had during the GWOT that could probably have been fixed with a thicker barrel (just like the M4).
@skinWalkman
@skinWalkman 9 месяцев назад
And yet operators complained about it as well. Even after it was adopted by the marine corps, sf rejected it and complained that it was too heavy and stayed using block 2s.
@armynurseboy
@armynurseboy 9 месяцев назад
And you could literally upgrade all existing M16/M4 to 416 configuration with a simple upper receiver swap.
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 9 месяцев назад
@@skinWalkman SF didn’t reject it. It was never really on the table to begin with. The 416 was aimed at Delta from the very beginning, and DG followed. I used the 416 while overseas. It’s a good gun, but it is heavy. Mine weighed nearly as much as a PKM. You have to remember that the point of the 416 was to have a reliable short barreled rifle. SF was primarily using 14.5’s at that time, and were not as interested in SBR’s as other units.
@skinWalkman
@skinWalkman 9 месяцев назад
@@darklyripley6138 I remember fondly when the Raiders sent their rejection and it was open source. Their biggest complaint was weight and length. Having carried the rifle overseas as well, I will admit it’s a tad heavy. But I always fell under the assumption that if a grunt could hump it, raiders should have no problem. The range, accuracy, and reliability of the system offer more pros than cons.
@markchapman2585
@markchapman2585 9 месяцев назад
Great video Cappy. I can't say anything bad or good about the scar rifle I never shot one before. I can pretend I did like a lot of internet trolls do.
@santanagamingcinema
@santanagamingcinema 9 месяцев назад
I wish I could shake your hand.
@corporalpunishment1133
@corporalpunishment1133 9 месяцев назад
Hay don’t you know that playing Call of duty gives you the right to have a opinion on every gun ever made don’t you.
@markchapman2585
@markchapman2585 9 месяцев назад
@@corporalpunishment1133 lol
@thekamotodragon
@thekamotodragon 8 месяцев назад
the thing with this tho, is while i agree with your argument that many people online lie about experiences. I'll just say that the Scar is prob one of the worst rifles to say this about, at least in the US. It's like saying many commenters have never shot an AR before lol, they're both such common rifles at this point that it's extremely easy to have shot one before, obviously ARs more so but still like every gun store has a scar for rent so it's likely that any normal US citizen could've shot one before.
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 9 месяцев назад
This video was very informative. Thanks.
@emperor_lelouch6635
@emperor_lelouch6635 7 месяцев назад
i just finished basic in the belgian army and am issued with a scar-l. i love the thing. super easy to keep clean, shoots when you need it to schoot and in combination with the aimpoint we get issued with it it's super easy to learn and use, it serves us very well.
@wesadams5128
@wesadams5128 9 месяцев назад
I love my scar. Gotta get the 308. I used to love the 5.56 but the 308 really isn't that much more on recoil and it's a one shot your done kinda caliber.
@robertmccutcheon4103
@robertmccutcheon4103 9 месяцев назад
Also during this time various improvements were made to the m4 upper receivers and bolts that fixed a lot of the issues the rifle had meaning the scar L was no longer as needed
@napoleonbonaparte1429
@napoleonbonaparte1429 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, the block 2 replaced the mk 16.
@irafowlerjr.7492
@irafowlerjr.7492 9 месяцев назад
Really enjoyed, love the scar, thanks
@mikeboone4425
@mikeboone4425 9 месяцев назад
One o your best video's keep it up . Happy Trails
@cpeabody85
@cpeabody85 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this, was curious why it seemed to appear and disappear fairly quickly. Will be interesting to see if the new weapons the military is picking up will end up having a similar fate
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
Probably will. I don't think anyone will go back to an M14-style battle rifle for the standard rifle, although I'd like to see what a hybrid cartridge 5.56 would do out of a Spear LT type rifle.
@0hioboy
@0hioboy 9 месяцев назад
That's why they are in 6.8. It's in between 5.56 and 308. Still better range and penetration that 5.56 but not quite a battle rifle. These new weapons will be needed for future "near-peer" advisories. Especially the new LMG chambered in 338 lapua
@fnkdtnk
@fnkdtnk 9 месяцев назад
@@0hioboywhat I’d like to see with 5.56 is taking the technology that was put into the 6.8 furry, and put it into the 5.56. Imagine a 77 otm moving 3,300 fps out of a 14” barrel. (Or something of that nature).
@JZ909
@JZ909 9 месяцев назад
​@@0hioboy6.8 x 51 is essentially just a screaming hot, necked down 7.62 x 51, with a redesigned case to take all the pressure. It's very similar in terms of kinetic energy imparted to the bullet, and consequently, recoil. The best way to describe it would probably be a 21st century battle rifle, improving on the .308s armor penetration. However, it comes with all the traditional battle rifle problems: heavy recoil, heavy weapons and heavy/bulky ammo. 6.5mm Grendel, or my favorite, 6mm AR, are better examples of in-between rounds. Much better ballistic performance than 5.56, but without the armor penetration of 6.8 x 51, and kinetic energy (recoil) falling about halfway between the two.
@LondraCalibro9
@LondraCalibro9 9 месяцев назад
only ever tried the Scar H - super fun and felt good.....but damn, that pricetag.
@oathtaker2768
@oathtaker2768 9 месяцев назад
Great video 👊
@roblowe9283
@roblowe9283 Месяц назад
Keep Up the Good Work !
@valukk738
@valukk738 9 месяцев назад
The team guys I work with use them as DMRs with the 20 inch barrel but usually prefer the m110
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 9 месяцев назад
Seals don’t use M110’s in large numbers. They use Scar20’s, KAC SR25’s, and HK417’s(for DG). You say you work with team guys. What exactly are you?
@mattmurphy7030
@mattmurphy7030 9 месяцев назад
@@darklyripley6138the SR25 is an M110 lol
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 9 месяцев назад
@@mattmurphy7030 No it’s not. The SR25 is an SR25. The M110 is an M110. There are differences between the two guns. Educate yourself.
@mattmurphy7030
@mattmurphy7030 9 месяцев назад
@@darklyripley6138 the KAC SR25 is to the M110 as the armalite AR15 is to the M16. One is a product and the other is a military designation for a specification. Educate yourself.
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 9 месяцев назад
@@mattmurphy7030 Except it’s not. The original AR15, and M16 have differences. It’s not just the same gun with a military designation. The M110 has various different features than the SR25. Before the M110, various SOCOM units(primarily NSW and Delta) used SR25’s. This includes the SR25 under the military designation MK11. The M110 stems from the XM110 competition from the Army. KAC used the SR25 as a base, but added many features that the Army wanted. These features would go on to be added to future versions of the SR25. The current SR25’s being used are also different than both the M110 and original SR25’s. Things like new rails, barrels, muzzle devices, etc are now common place. And this doesn’t even include the OG SR25 from the 90’s. Nor does this include custom SR25’s, such as Britt Slabinksi’s rifle. So no, the two are not the same. Calling them the same would be like calling a Colt M4 the same as a KAC SR16.
@davidbrown180
@davidbrown180 9 месяцев назад
I remember when the xm8 was suppose to be the next weapon.
@deathfromabove432
@deathfromabove432 5 месяцев назад
Very interesting, thank you!
@winchcable2282
@winchcable2282 9 месяцев назад
love to see how the side by side testing goes with the Sig Sauer MCX SPEAR SBR .277 SIG FURY/6.8X51
@dp2901
@dp2901 9 месяцев назад
I remember when the piston vs DI debate was going on. There was a lot of hype. I actually have an HK MR556. Robust gun, but very expensive and very heavy.
@darklyripley6138
@darklyripley6138 9 месяцев назад
I’ve used both the MK17 and HK416 while overseas contracting. Both are great rifles. But the HK416 is heavy, and it’s a pain to carry 7.62.
@casinodelonge
@casinodelonge 9 месяцев назад
I recall when the British Army transitioned from the SLR to the SA80, our guys were complaining in a certain conflict they were outranged by the AK's of their opponents and so soon started to carry SLR's on patrols again.
@mitchjames9350
@mitchjames9350 9 месяцев назад
The commonwealth countries should of adapted the SLR’s into marksman rifles.
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
While the SA80 has had a questionable history, the 5.56 out of a 20 inch barrel should outrange a 7.62x39. 7.62x54R is another beast entirely.
@Legitpenguins99
@Legitpenguins99 9 месяцев назад
The FAL had some inherant accuracy issues that prevented it from being a accurate marksman rifle. That's why the British didn't convert it into a DMR
@zoiders
@zoiders 9 месяцев назад
Despite its teething problems problematic L85s were weeded out of service and there is no way the 20" L85 with its X4 optic was outranged by AKs. The range drum goes to 500 and it will shoot that far and beyond. When it comes to an actual sharpshooter rifle the SLR was never good enough.
@kiwigrunt330
@kiwigrunt330 9 месяцев назад
@@zoiders Indeed, for all the problems the first iteration of the L85 had, accuracy was never one of them. The current A3 is supposed to be even more accurate and consistent with its stiffened receiver, free floating barrel and far better Elcan optic with holdovers to 800. The SLR/FAL is probably to least accurate 'battle' rifle to push into service as a DMR. Those beautiful battle rifles have earned their place in history, but they should never have existed in the first place. They were a good answer to a question that should never have been asked. A bit like the BAR.
@machfiver753
@machfiver753 6 месяцев назад
Gotta love that "display on shelf" feature that really sets it apart from those other ones that can't be put on a shelf.
@GaborGubicza
@GaborGubicza 9 месяцев назад
Great video. Would be great to have your take on the ACR
@expo2000000
@expo2000000 9 месяцев назад
I always thought the SCAR system was an interim rifle because the USM was considering re adopting 7.62 or larger caliber...
@briancooper2112
@briancooper2112 9 месяцев назад
7.62 for usmc? No
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
It was a SOCOM request for rifles in 5.56 and 7.62x51 to fix issues SOCOM was having with the M4 that the Army later fixed when regular troops had the same issues. The 7.62 worked from Day 1 and was legitimately better than the M14 and AR-10 variants that were used while the 5.56 didn't and wasn't fully adopted.
@taekwoncrawfish9418
@taekwoncrawfish9418 9 месяцев назад
@@briancooper2112um… yes? Lol
@taekwoncrawfish9418
@taekwoncrawfish9418 9 месяцев назад
@@danielhenderson8316ar10 uses 7.62 lol
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
@@taekwoncrawfish9418 I was talking about the SCAR-H in 7.62 out performing the AR-10. The 5.56 comment was directed to the SCAR-L.
@baldric44
@baldric44 9 месяцев назад
My old SLR never let me down, you get hit by 7.62mm you stay hit
@j.r.6271
@j.r.6271 8 месяцев назад
The M16 @2:57 looks like a rendition of the Stoner 63 and I love it!
@luis.terron
@luis.terron 9 месяцев назад
Great Video! Thanks for stopping by....really did have a blast (except for the pmags lol) !😂
@napalm5941
@napalm5941 9 месяцев назад
Im from Portugal and I've been to some military shows and I remember when I was 10 I picked up a G3 (at the time the service weapon) and just 5 months ago I picked up both the SCAR L and H. Sure, I grew up, got stronger and all, but boy lemme tell ya, even when I asked the soldiers what was the biggest difference between the G3 and the H they all said: "The G3 is a dinossaur, a heavy one at that, this one (SCAR H) is just a bit 'big boned' but way lighter."
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 9 месяцев назад
The problem with our rifle selection is the enduring FOMO fantasy that AK's 'always work' The M4 was always competing with a myth.
@TrueHolarctic
@TrueHolarctic 9 месяцев назад
Ak always works because you have 2 of them
@annekedebruyn7797
@annekedebruyn7797 9 месяцев назад
Wait until they hear about this mythical blade from Japan! Everyone would have to wear a mall ninja katana then.
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
To be fair, the M4 had issues around 2001 that weren't discovered during peace time. The thin barrels were warping under heavy fire and Colt did have a run of defective bolts. Both problems were fixed quickly once it was regular Army having problems instead of just SOCOM using the M4 like an LMG.
@kennyk541
@kennyk541 9 месяцев назад
@@danielhenderson8316I thought they found out the issue was the barrels were fine it was because a bunch of gunk was getting around the gas tube port
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
@@kennyk541 It was probably an issue as well, but that's also where the SOCOM barrel profile came from. Most of what I mentioned came from Chis Bartocci at the Small Arms Solutions channel who worked for Colt during that time.
@raistlinmajere2257
@raistlinmajere2257 9 месяцев назад
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@1cavscout160
@1cavscout160 9 месяцев назад
I own a 16 & 17 and love both of them. I actually like the 16 better than I thought I would.
@oler777
@oler777 9 месяцев назад
Rumor has it they never switched to the scar because FN couldn’t figure out how to paint anything the same color
@globalchaos1984
@globalchaos1984 9 месяцев назад
Lol
@mrmugatu1look638
@mrmugatu1look638 9 месяцев назад
My unit had the SCAR in limited capacity back in the 2010ish timeframe but it wasn't really a significant improvement to the M4 so the necessity to field it unit wide wasn't really a thought. Good rifle for sure but not a significant improvement to justify replacing what already works and works quite well.
@user-uy6id8hw7o
@user-uy6id8hw7o 9 месяцев назад
Sir the new upgrade for leopard 1 seems to be interesting too. Waiting for you to make a video about that.😊
@jeanvonestling7408
@jeanvonestling7408 9 месяцев назад
Thanks
@loganvalentino5850
@loganvalentino5850 9 месяцев назад
The few mags of SCAR-L I've gotten the chance to fire was a joy
@Sophistry0001
@Sophistry0001 9 месяцев назад
Yet somehow for that price tag, FN says you will void the warranty if you put a suppressor on the SCAR
@robertbobbypelletreaujr2173
@robertbobbypelletreaujr2173 9 месяцев назад
Best reason for a hard pass.
@Donald-ky2fg
@Donald-ky2fg Месяц назад
Best video on the scar ive seen.
@RyanFagan_RealEstate
@RyanFagan_RealEstate Месяц назад
This is an excellent video
@Legalizeasbestos
@Legalizeasbestos 9 месяцев назад
If the SCAR had a longer handguard to the end of the barrel, adjustable gas block and the damn charging handle didnt come flying back at you with every shot it would have likely replaced the M4. Until the Block II came out with full length rails nobody had that standard issue, adjustable gas blocks would have made suppressed shooting so much cleaner and the ridiculous charging handle that tries to break any misplaced fingers was so short sighted.
@xxxod
@xxxod 9 месяцев назад
Rifles look better with a bit of pencil sticking out.
@danielhenderson8316
@danielhenderson8316 9 месяцев назад
FN does make an extended handguard along with other 3rd pty vendors. I think if rounds didn't end up in the bolt channel and the BCG didn't destroy optics, it might have. As far as the charging handle, FN was told to put that in, but they weren't told where to put it.
@Legalizeasbestos
@Legalizeasbestos 9 месяцев назад
@@danielhenderson8316 I agree. It was half setup to fail because the army didn’t know what they really wanted
@Deicide6666
@Deicide6666 9 месяцев назад
Not gonna lie I've been a SCAR fan boy since I first saw it.
@jimm244
@jimm244 9 месяцев назад
Nice! With the M4 being so ubiquitous, I never saw the real benefit of the .556 SCAR-16. The SCAR-17 though, wow! What a great platform.
@jamarrobinson2872
@jamarrobinson2872 6 месяцев назад
Good review
@masonarmand8988
@masonarmand8988 9 месяцев назад
I’d say the charging handle was one of the worst issues
@scribbles8801
@scribbles8801 9 месяцев назад
Suppressors on the Mk17/H is probably the worst or second worst imo
@removedot
@removedot 9 месяцев назад
@@scribbles8801 the H has stuck around though
@removedot
@removedot 9 месяцев назад
from what I had heard though the Charging handle was especially an issue indoors; and as you saw one of the requirements was indoors capability. Going around a corner and going to shot and its blocked by a wall can be a very bad time
@fistan5447
@fistan5447 9 месяцев назад
i'd argue the casings going up the op rod chamber beats that.
@commonsenseproductions5893
@commonsenseproductions5893 9 месяцев назад
The Scar light never made sense if youre already invested in M4s The Scar heavy slaps
@slimgrowden
@slimgrowden 5 месяцев назад
I was looking for a AR 10 back before the SCAR came out back in the early 2000s there wasn’t much of a market! But FN had just released the FNAR in 762x51 mm I went back and forth! Yet in the end I bought it I love it I got it with the heavy 20 inch fluted bull barrel! The mag were expensive but that aside it is one of the most accurate semi automatic 30 caliber I had ever shot! It was guaranteed sub minute groups at 100 yards or your money back! It did not disappoint I can stack round right on top of each other! They no longer makes the rifle now but with it’s gas operation blowback system much like the BAR I love it! Very reliable very accurate and at the time great price. I know I could get my investment back out of it without any trouble! Now that they are no longer made makes it worth a little more. I love mine and it will never be for sale. FN makes some great firearms and have been for many years they supply 70% of the free worlds firearms to many countries as was shown here what’s not to love. Thanks for the video.
@stevenblair980
@stevenblair980 6 месяцев назад
Bought a scar 20s and i fell in love with it
@epicgaming11195
@epicgaming11195 5 месяцев назад
6:31 ironically, the scar is (or was, i haven't seriously played fortnite in years) one of the most iconic guns in fortnite, and the m4 one of the most used meta guns in tarkov
@smile4cs
@smile4cs 3 месяца назад
was gonna comment this
@lamlam2750
@lamlam2750 9 месяцев назад
Why use the SCAR when you could just slap more attachments on an M4? I think we should go with an under barrel tactical can opener next.
@rexomi17
@rexomi17 9 месяцев назад
Hk416 better
@rexomi17
@rexomi17 9 месяцев назад
Plus M4 have more reliable issue
@thebanks06
@thebanks06 4 месяца назад
Definitely need to come grab one
@davidasteed
@davidasteed 9 дней назад
Back when the SCAR was "hot" I rented a scoped heavy version with two full mags. As a very-infrequent .308 shooter, I was able to ring the bell at 400 yards repeatedly with the help of call outs from spotter to adjust the follow up shots. It's a beast to haul around for a thin-build civvie like me, but the felt recoil is much, much easier to handle than other .308s I've fired in the past. However for casual weekend shooting this is not a fun caliber. I fired most of the two mags, but my buddies at the time fired one or two rounds and lost interest.
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