Why use Palm OS devices in 2020 

Definitely grab a 700p! It still uses standard SD cards! I love mine.

Hahahahaha! For the umpteenth time, I apologize for the mispronunciation 😂

I know! I similarly (but internet) use my Treo for internet radio (audiobooks and podcasts soon).

"seriously" lmao what a cope...it's cool to use old tech but stop lying to yourself and the good people of the RU-vid comments as if it's somehow superior to literally any bottom of the barrel budget smartphone

@@redacted5035 "the NO INTERNET and weeks of battery life" part of his comment demonstrates the Palm's superiority to a low budget smart phone.

@@redacted5035 modern smartphone will hold a charge for about a day with very light use, thats nothing compared to devices like Palm. Also handwriting recognition in most smartphones kind of suck, and styluses arent as good as on palm

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Really! They are still wonderful today! :)

@@walnuthills11 Yeah I started with the Treo 600, then the 650, and later supported the 750 series that ran on WinCE. I remember liking the Palm OS Treos more than the WinCE versions; despite their more primitive hardware, Palm OS was so well optimized that the 600\650 ran much faster than the 750's that came later, which had better hardware but were sluggish on WinCE. The 750's did sync better with Outlook, though, whereas on the Palm Treos you had to constantly fiddle with that "Palm Desktop" software, always struggling to keep my doctors' Outlook calendars syncing reliably. But when it worked, those little Treos were great. I worked at a hospital and we later moved to Blackberries exclusively, then ditched them for iPhones and got rid of our BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server). But I'll always have a soft spot for the old Treos...

Is there anyway to get photos off of these phones in 2023?

I know! I finally discovered webOS was based on Linux. Too bad its development toolchains are long dead.

@@walnuthills11 Apparently there is still LuneOS. I keep going back to check but so far I don't know of any smartphone that runs it properly.

Shame these were kinda killed off .

@@KD5NJR Yeah, there are so many great platforms that would be amazing today if they were simply allowed to evolve. The PalmOS phones and even the Apple Newton MessagePad. Imagine what they would be now.

Hi, you probably have a file management app like filez or resco that I can use. I can't seem to hotsync with the internet to download those apps to my palm. Perhaps I could send you an old 32mb SD card and you could copy those essential apps onto it and send it back to me. That would be much appreciated.

i still have my targus blue tooth stow-a-way keyboard, that thing is still awesome, but its been collecting dust for about 15 years lol, but that may change soon

I think there is only BT on the Tungsten E2, not the E. But anyway, I transfer via FTP using Resco Explorer or just the BT "Send File" tool on my PC.

Nice! I love my Treo 700p battery life as well. I have the extended battery. Sadly it doesn't work with cell service here any more.

Happy new year!!

All great points and thanks for mentioning AddIt!!

@@walnuthills11 Np, I've been using these since I got my IIIe in the early 2000s

Nice. PAUL MOSS? 🙂

@@walnuthills11 put it like this. I'm still patiently waiting for the release of Paul Moss 6

@@anidnmeno Hahahaha now I get. Yes, common complaint 😉 Or, "come on!" complaint?

an EXE file you need to install on your computer, it will contain the installer that you can hotsync to your palm, docs to go is on palmdb

Possibly! I would have to read up. I don't think any Palms had built-in GPS though.

"i am wondering how well it will sync with win 10" From what i found it should work pretty well, but you have to find and install some special driver in addition to Palm Desktop, there are tutorials on how to do it online

Yes, Palm OS 5 devices were far improved.

I’d forgotten about them too. But I’ve got a few now.

All pocket sized, portable computers were primitive back in the '90s. By design, these 'organisers' were small, fast, reliable and the batteries lasted ages. Palm OS was very efficient and there was a huge software library. The 'Pocket PC' and Windows CE devices may have had faster processors, but the the OS was clunky, slow and ate through batteries at an alarming rate. So much so, that despite being one of the biggest/richest companies in the world, MS gave up on the OS after version 6.

@@another3997 Oh agreed. Palm OS is very efficient and WM is incredibly clunky.

@@another3997 Windows Mobile IIRC (not to be confused with "Windows Phone", which was defunct around mid 2010s) had the issue where they tried to shoehorn an entire desktop OS into a screen that needed to be 4x bigger than what it was. I also hear that tapping on the 'x' doesn't close a window. It minimizes it, which is confusing because you'd at least expect that same workflow being familiar with desktop Windows.

Nice! Thanks for the clarification and thanks for sharing! Very interesting Sony shifted to the PSP at that point.

@@walnuthills11 I think they saw "the writing was on the wall". FWIW, the PSP did OK, which is sort of a bummer (and this is coming from someone who prefers Nintendo!)

I think the Palm. Much more software available and easier sync via Jpilot as you said. I use Jpilot on my Linux laptops and it works great!

Yes, correct

Gracias!

I am glad you discovered it!

@@walnuthills11 yeah, its very interesting

Bluetooth is better than I thought.

@@walnuthills11 Can I share my Samsung S21's WiFi/4G/5G over Bluetooth to the Treo 650? Otherwise I'll have to power up my XP ThinkPad each time

@@jonc-1989 If it has Android, absolutely. There's a BlueDUN app for that I think.

@@walnuthills11 ooo perfect. I did try and pair my phone with it earlier but wasn't having any of it. Though the 650s Bluetooth is flakey apparently. I'll try with that app

Unfortunately it refuses to connect to my phone. It pairs, but doesn't connect

OK, sorry! Haha. Good point.

Yeah, sorry, please redub the audio, it's really distracting to hear "Palmos" over and over. A suggestion, you might want to introduce them as "Palm OS" devices, but then refer to them as "the devices" (gesture as needed) or call them by their models as needed, for example "The TX" or "The 700p". After all, we already know what family the devices belong to or we wouldn't be watching the video.

Yeah, sorry, I appreciate the suggestions, but no way, I'm not redubbing the audio. Just imagine me saying Palm O S instead, lol

that first "Palmos" I heard was cringy as hell, I immediately scrolled down to look for this kind of comment.

One side only?

You mean I didn't talk about disadvantages? Haha, good point.

@@walnuthills11 I think he means the audio is only on one side

@@yeety1208 Mono recording?

@@walnuthills11 With headphones, there's barely any sound coming from the right speaker

I know, I've since corrected it. Many people roasted me about the mispronunciation 😂

In not long! Haha

I know this person personally and you are absolutely correct.

Thanks for your comment.

You are very welcome!