Why we hate engineers 

LMAO YES, they'll design the most outrageous things any human could imagine then someone someone has to build It with the physics of the world, like damn bro.

taking architecture classes ill try to be better

@@reecerinehart8419 I've studied to be an architect and you'll be actively discouraged and even failed if you "try to be better" well "try to be more practical". You'll constantly be reduing technical drawings and projects because the artsy professor thinks your original design is "boring" they will pester you until you relent and put odd angles and curves into impossible spaces or have the theoretical contractors waste metric tons of 50C or 60C grade portlant cement along with stainless steel structural elements and chemical cement addatives for an ornamental facade that has minecraft physics, and looks as ugly as a badly made rubics cube torn apart by an angry kid.

@@sosig6445 Question, how often does more "antique" building designs get rejected ? Or even presented at all ? Like, like mortice and tenon wood frames, brick arches, vaults, domes, etc, lathe and plaster, adobe, stucco or just anythng that would've been done or possibly common place 80+ years ago ?

In my experience, it is actively discouraged by architecture professors. My team was always trying to present buildings with exactly the methods you describe, and they were considered so "out of style" that we were threatened with failing the course. Please everyone, never hire an architect for anything, it's all marketing. Just learn to do things on your own, get a civil engineer who understands historical buildings and learn to say "No".

Optimist: The glass is half full Pessimist: The glass is half empty Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be

@@CSGhostAnimation The glass is currently at 50% rated capacity and holding.

@@stonefish98 Architect says its needs to be 300% more than that

And this is why I love a whiskey glass I got that's perfect for soda. Idk how they made it, but it's the perfect size for longer gaming sessions when I forget it's on my desk.

​@@CSGhostAnimationan informatic says: oooh we have 50% more space, it didnt overflow and create a khajidjlion errors

ghost has been going through some rough shit go easy on him.

@@3SPR1TElaborate please?

@@3SPR1T What happened?

@@basic6735 According to other comments, cancer.

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Bro, what?

uhh

Came back to watch it again ❤

@@Bretaxyread the community post

@@Sacraficed ?

I have a friend that streams some art stuff, and he said those stupid stupid words... "If they just made a *insert here* it would be easier". Immediately pulled up my CAD, sliced my model up, and had a printed prototype in about 6 hours... the shipping from amazon for the parts allows me the day or two to program it....

time travel machine Edit: For those dumbasses that couldn't tell, this was a joke!

@@10054 ... Well... I uhh... shit... Something something exotic material something something gotta wait for the chemical guys to make that.

@@10054 Something something this breaks causality so it's impossible shid

Blackhole summoning machine.

but everyone hates the environmental qual guy, so they have that to bond over.

Are no not a fan of the designers 30 storey upside down pyramid, or a manifold that could be done if we had the budget NASA blew on Atemis and SLS combined for a HVAC unit or Corolla suspension arm? Can be done, should be done, bloody worlds apart.

😂😂👍

This should be on a shirt. A really large shirt

Look up the dash board cup holder in the Lexus Sc300 for the definition of impossible to possibly but didn't. It's not actually that complex but still a bit wild of a design

He hearted your comment so he's still active... they say he cooked but this guy when he uploads its a gourmet meal

LOL

Unintentionally had a hand in making bombs

Think he might have fucked em up?

If you like it, put a ring on it!

Oh boy, I can only imagine his surprise

yeah that’s because designers typically don’t know what it actually takes to do certain things they think that because it can’t be designed it can just as easily be made, which is where the problem is created. designers need to think in a much more practical way instead of extreme precision in situations where it’s not needed

​@@payloadperformance9706then it's a bad designer. I'm a mechanical engineer, but also worked for 8 years in a factory doing almost any standard activities you can think of. But even people around me who didn't know a lot about the machinery. So if someone makes tons of unproducable things, it's just a bad engineer/designer

@@lothar654 John 3:16-For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life❤️✝️

@@payloadperformance9706 John 3:16-For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life❤️✝️❤

John 3:16-For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life❤️✝️

...are the machinists not in an air conditioned room too? Because if not, they should quit. It's a lot easier to prove you're a good machinist than fake being a good engineer, they shouldn't have a hard time getting a better job.

@@aluisious Nope, it was a large factory where we built cabinets, doors, shelves, you name it. The CNC milling, edgebanding, and jointer operators had the toughest times with the miscommunication and misunderstanding, with a lot of waste tools that were made for specific jobs and never used again. They showed me drawers of tools for the jointer, some years old that were used once. Anyway, we couldn't have A/C since the factory was so huge.

@@aluisious yeah if my machine shop doesn't have ac I'm going to be suspicious especially if its way above or below 70 degrees as that's the standard to calibrate machinery and measuring tools but for basic repair shops its not as big a deal

I’m a 19 yo machinist and in the little time I’ve been working this type of issue has already happened lots, honestly it’s frustrating. Thanks for this video its amazing, thank you!

That's a really misguided idea of how engineers work, at least from my experience *actually being a design engineer* We go out all the time to do physical work, surveying, measuring, climbing up on top of shit because we can't find a pipe because it wasn't installed according to the drawing and nobody bothered to pass it on. Obviously that's not all engineers, but just my experience. I feel like engineers get shit on more because it's perceived as punching up, while if complaints go the other way it's seen as punching down (which it kinda is). I think there should be a reverse version of this video explaining all the things that are frustrating in the other direction. Like the aforementioned turning up to do a final quality check on the job site only to discover it's been fitted in a completely different way and now you have to redraw the entire thing. Because it seems there is a lot of emphasis on understanding it from the machinists point of view but what about the other way? Like sure, that part with that tiny spigot sticking out looks really fucking stupid, but have you actually seen what it's being used for or fitted to? maybe there is a reason it's not just threaded in. Maybe that surface finish is way too high for the actual purpose, but it's being made that way because it has to comply with a standard in order to be allowed to be used. Maybe that is a really weird size of hole to drill out, but perhaps it has to be that way because there is a really weird connection it's got to fit. If machinists in this case were given more context by designers it would make their job easier and in turn if the people fitting the parts (in this case "man with angle grinder") communicated why they had changed all that pipework around (eg, there's a random pipe that was fitted mid-way through us designing the fitment) instead of giving zero feedback then when we go to survey it will make sense and we can correct for that in the future. TL;DR Communication is everything, instead of assuming one group (engineers, machinists, fitters) are stupid maybe ask why they chose to do it that way. /rant over/

I'm a engineer, i still dont like the designer, so arrogant and wont let me speak sh*t

Assemblers aren't exactly in the fray, it's the people who have to take assemblies apart for repair that hate engineers

@@jankington216 there is a field of design theory called “design for maintenancel

Ah, so you're on the team with the dwarf (because _somehow_ , in their infinite wisdom, the designers only left enough space for a child's hand to fix the last piece inside of the assembly)

@@jankington216 I do both assembly and repair work on specific large machines. Both scenarios leave our people hating engineers. The machine being assembled often has various issues. Sometimes there's issues with space for various parts. Sometimes holes are too precise and no longer fit properly due to slight warping from shipping or the combined many tiny imperfections from other assembled parts. I don't understand how something designed for a hose doesn't have enough space to fit the hose. I swear these engineers have special tools they made for their work and didn't think about the assemblers that won't have them or the potential differences in space each site needs.

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As a mechanical engineer in design engineering, this vid was a pleasant surprise

i still know nothing about cnc milling

i know alot about cnc's but i didnt know the stuff gets recycled but i still doubt they get recycled cause most companys are cheapskates

Me

@InitialKettle The character "Imposter" from the hit indie game "Among us"

lol in my video I said "don't skim in hiring fabricators because they're dirty of the swear, or soaked in coolant" I actually had spilled some coolant on myself as I was editing that, lol

This is being slightly pedantic but your dad was being class conscious by working with the machinists. This is because Marx saw the divide between the working and middle classes as an artificial divide created by the bourgeoisie so that the workers would fight amongst themselves instead of uniting to overthrow the owning class.

@@rykermoorcroft4474 to add to the pedanticism I would say that, given the context, he never actually said don't be class-conscious or even that his dad wasn't class conscious. He specifically said don't be a "class-conscious a**hole" XD

Dude I’m an engineer and it’s actually the machinists that are the smart ones 100%

@@CSGhostAnimationghost why do you have coolant while recording

It comes down to respect for other trades/professions. No one tradesperson or engineer knows everything. If you respect and are prepared to ask the expert in their field for advice, you're going to be much better off.

As an engineer, we always have review meetings with fabricators before ever project milestone. Never seen anyone complain about the final designs. It's literally part of the process, but I guess it's in process because my organization is old and they worked out all the kinks a long time ago.

my dad got more pissed off at his managers more than the parts he had to make.

Challenge them to a mortal combat

As a software engineer, I can not tell you how true this is: Web Developers without Design Experience VS Designers without any Developer Experience = 🔥

vrrrr

Wait... There are smart people in the world!

Thrue

Damn true

For real. If the support feature is still around by the time I get steady income, I'm making a section of my spare cash to just support the creators I love to watch, including Ghost.

Game development slipped into producing products instead of loving and making games. With corporate ESG ensuring the least talented people get jobs. That's a whole different can of worms but AAA is for sure struggling.

@@elimgarak1127 ok but uhh... who asked

​@@ALittleBitCheesy *i asked*

@@ALittleBitCheesy Quite a few people. I've given up on anything western produced because of it.

@@duckkingersame

Those aren't analogies, they are anecdotes! It's real!

Oh all of those are real.... it's scary how accurate each of those 5 points are, as I have experienced the consequences of not understanding them when being on the design side of things :⁠-⁠)

Yeah lmao 5:55

The boss way for "fine I'll do it myself"

What is exactly a design engineer? I am starting university next year and I really want to work for something like that

@@lu011 mechanical engineering would be the designer’s specialty in this case

@@gentlejello thank you

@@lu011 it's the guys who actually design the stuff, the other ones build it

This is a closer approximation to the differences I saw when changing from mechanical engineering to mechanical engineering technology.

thats just the normal way to teach us in switzerland. designer and machinist go to 4 years of school together and learn both crafts. after that we go both to the same university and make our bachelor and masters. and then see us again in the company 5 years later

There's a term for this person: toolmaker

@@richardpatterson5988 there are more than just the toolmakers that do this

being a former engineering student gone welder/fabricator, yes

Are the air horns at the end perfect?

Yes

Yupp , studied engineering and am a maschinist, to be fair that is the thing they drilled while studing, tolerances as course as possible.

duck

Im currently studying mechanical engineering, any more tips before i look for somewhere to intern for my final year?

There was a couple things I didn't agree with but they are minor. I have never done a revision to a part when it hadn't been manufactured first or built in any way. In addition to that he said to always use standard radii while that could be true for something like a fillet it wouldn't matter for an exterior corner. I actually thought he was talking about exterior corners until he showed a fillet tool then I realized his picture was a side view and not a top view. Interior corners are something else where we want the corner to be just some amount larger then a standard tool so they can sweep it around and not chatter in the corner. If the radii is standard size they have to undersize the end mill to mill it with a good finish. So the saying always use standard radii isn't true. That's all I got.

@@jasonmurawski4917 Use standard radius WHERE APPLICABLE. (Caps because cursive doesn't exist on YT comments)

Uggh yeah I got it lol I’m a cnc machinist worked on Nova’s

@@chillreznov0227 We go through all this engineering and standard core classes in university just to have a dude go online and show us that "somehow" english comp was just not his thing, huh. I am irritated for you bro.

@@chillreznov0227 You can type italics by adding underscores before and after the parts you want italicized. _Example_. The period keeps it from working, but makes it perfect to show what I mean.

actually if you noticed point 4 got cut off, it's because this very question sparked some debate amongst my fact checkers. They couldn't even remember the last time they even used those tools. One guy just uses ball nose for all his radiuses and calls it a day. I decided to scrap it by using a turtle joke. Thanks for the comment!

As someone who's not a C.N.C major, i third

As a design engineer I've seen shit like tap depth=drill depth in a blind hole just months in starting my career and the r&d boys doing the design be like oH iT's cOoL jUsT uSe a sPiRaL fLuTe tAp

C.N.C major, I fourth.

As someone whos worked with C.N.C and decided I'm not nearly qualified enough to touch this stuff, I fifth

As someone who only took a year of cnc machining for a certification, i sixth

The lengths I will go in order to respect every bullet point on that list. I have redesigned entire assemblies just for that one part so that it fits those bullet points.

As a machinist, absolutely yes.

Where are you working?

Horizontal expansion should have been corrected in the slicer settings, rather than the model.

First off, buy a 3d printer. It's such a great hobby to do while you go through college. You'll also learn basically all your CAD stuff without even trying. Second, 3d printing has a ton of parameters, and you can drastically change results by tampering with settings. CNC Kitchen does a great job of going in-depth on individual parameters. You can watch those and combine some techniques to build some quite strong and impressive parts. But for things like holes, I almost always drill them (to the final diameter). If there's no requirement to pull parts straight off the printer and into the assembly, use a drill, a tapping set, a woodworking chisel, and some strong glue (epoxy or CA would be my choice). Those tools will allow you to do a ton with 3d printing for tolerances and mechanical fits.

@@SealFredy5 I actually have had the opportunity to get a ton of CAD experience even before graduating high school - I worked with designing CAD files for our robitics team, and we had an aerospace engineering class in our high school which was heavily cad focused

And I was told almost exact opposite as my teachers required to describe everything what doe not really needs to be described

So you fkrs do learn that sht yet you f clowns still do it jesus fk man

they paid for it at the end of the day and if theres extra tolerances not needed they paid for that also. Just consider it the idiot tax and move on with a chuckle

@@Redd_Nebula true 😂

all he's talked about so far is some of the very basic stuff we've learned to keep in mind when designing. is that not normal? if I come up with a design with a bunch of custom sizes I will be scrutinized very closely on why I needed that and prolly not pass

@@Redd_Nebula It's a virtue to do the job right, even if you could make more money being crooked

@@group555_ real life is messy.

This is my experience too. I work on separate teams than our manufacturers. We send them drafts to get manufacturability feedback, which sometimes works but nothing is as effective as when they come up and you happen to be finishing up a design and just can run through every option and usually converge on some really efficient design changes that are convenient for both parties.

I was fortunate enough to work with a manual machine shop (no CNC) during my first engineering job, and from day 1 every single design would have to get his OK before we made it. It really taught me how to consider manufacturing first and then work in function around that. It's saved me a lot of headache and back-and-forth to work this way, and I use the skills from that job to this day (12 years into my engineering career). CNC can do stuff manual machines can't, obviously, but learning tricks for making things into bricks with holes has made my manufacturing costs way cheaper and usually guarantees I can get the parts quicker and with fewer mistakes.

​@@Gecko88 thank you, everyone is now smarter and more enlightened by your pretentious correction of a RU-vid comment.

@@Gecko88 Dude, this is the WORLD WIDE WEB. Not everyone speaks English as a first language. Now if you want to help people learn English Grammar, end it with "I know, English is tricky."

Technical drawings are 2D not 3D ;) -Designer

I did landscaping for a big corporation and we had an in house engineer for our repair and maintenance work, one thing I learned very early on was to make friends with him and make sure anything i turned it was clearly documented and prepped to the best of my ability to make repairs as smooth as possible. Somehow, I always got my gear back the fastest out of anyone at the shop. Weird how that works

​@@kingsly3690 Screw innovation let me copy paste a part from an old volvo and put it in this structurally integral area of this spacecraft

@@kingsly3690 for power transmission systems we mostly “copy”

@@snakedeadly Design me a transmission, don't use any system that's been used before.

I'm also in engineering, mechanical, and the sad truth is it's all a giant waste of time. In 5 years AI will be doing the designs and calculations, that's why they're so focused on manufacturing experience now. It's not because of the technologists feelings, if that was the case they would have been making more emphasis to this decades ago. Nope. The truth is engineers are being replaced, just like so many others. AI can design stuff all it wants, but without technologists to operate the systems, AI is useless. *Engineers are just expensive design programs.*

Boss stay`s longer to find more work so you don`t go early too often ^^ But yes you can ask for a lot more money if you let the company make a lot more by preventing as many design iterations as possible.

@@MrHaggyy Yeah, usually you should be able to find something else that needs doing.

How do you become an engineer?

@@wifinesesi in the US: earn an ABET accredited engineering degree. If you want to be a Professional Engineer, you additionally need to pass two certification exams, and work for a number of years under other Professional Engineers.

This is so underrated in every creative engineering field. Downstream workers/customers should make more visits to upstream teams. Could probably save a loot of dollar bills and maybe level up the market fit while at it.

As a Engineering Technician in the Electronics industry l agree.

I've always believed that an engineer should have to to spend a certain amount of time on the manufacturing floor to see what's actually happening and how things are being used so they design more effectively.

I worked for a Fortune 500 in the 80's and 90's. My job was to help production take the prototypes and engineered drawings from corporate engineering to the production floor by providing tooling, equipment, jigs and fixtures. More than once I pissed off an "engineer" by telling him his "work of art wasn't practical and we were making these changes in production, revise your drawings."

Yeah one of the things that stuck with me pretty well was, every 0 you add for precision after a decimal, adds at least that many 0's before the decimal on your cost. So say what you mean. Also JUST TALK TO THE MACHINIST. Ask them to give you advice, use the expertise of people who do shit on a daily basis, Why think you know it all when you can leverage someone who actually knows what you need.

Hence the point about the standard charts. Any shop is going to have most if not all of the nominal sizes on the imperial or metric chart. It's when something very specific that's between sizes with no tolerance room is called for that causes headaches. Sure we can get a tap for 1/4 -23 threads but if your design can accept 1/4-20 we have a drawer full of those and can have the part ready before lunch. Do it the hard way and it's weeks to get the tap and every time your bolt brakes you need custom bolts to make it fit.

It would be way better if you could spend couple months in each position, I'm pretty sure company would have nothing against it. Just talking to machinists does make life easier for everyone, but doesn't do the justice because of how many factors come at play. For example, even a slight difference in material hardness makes a big difference in tool life and overall costs, better designe can drastically decrease production cycle time.

The beauties of *delivery* and *execution*

Exactly. Suddenly I want to be a machinist.

It will definitely make you a better engineer. Working with design engineers and planners made me a better machinist.

Hmm, that comment lead me to a question I've always had: Are you from USA and if so, how long is your education?

@@VikingRul3s I'm currently working towards a 4 years bachelor's degree in Mechanical Engineering, in Indiana, USA. I may go for my masters afterwards, which is another year.

@@markmcculfor6113 I see, well then it's very similar to Denmark. Thank you for replying :)

I tried taking machining as an elective in college and was told it was beneath me. I wish I stuck to my guns and took the class anyway.

why are you purple

@@MsZsc he donated money with his comment (like a boss)

W moment

@@MsZsc How old are you my boy?

@@MsZsc he ate too much paint :(

Electromagnetic interference [EMC] (and stealth) is the new kid on the block and cuts through everything. The biggest 'problem' is the `mechanoids` who haven't realised that metals are conductive and hence part of EMC design. It's easy to accidentally compromise designs every which way - It's like "what if plastering was part of electrical circuits"

You lost all credibility when you spelled Northrop wrong...

@@prelude12341 you don't work with engineers much do you If you think a single spelling mistake can undermine an engineer's credibility, then boy do I have the Description fields of some ECOs to show you lol

@@brandonthesteele I'll have you know I'm top of my departmint at spelling.

The funnies thing is that by what you say, they could have just fucking grabbed some CAT6 cable (heck maybe 5e?) and even if out of spec, I don't imagine it would make completely ridiculous problems surface, but no let's save some pennies out of the many millions. Sounds like someone at Rolls & Royce looking at the BOM and thinking "hhmmm... We should save money by not clear coating the wood panels!"

Thanks for the donation!! Also this fake comment replying to you is from a bot-- I honestly can't believe I've never seen it before. This is the first time my channel has had bot spam... (comment was deleted)

@@CSGhostAnimation the plague is spreading

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@@CSGhostAnimationwhen did you get the thumbnail made? Like on what day exactly?

@@CSGhostAnimation the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming.. the fog is coming..

What material was the sculpture made from?

​@@mahmerkhan1287 titanium xD

Good ending! Yay!

your profile picture is wild my guy, is that your girlfriend ???

Yeah, just start drilling in and take a left.

As a lead in a machine shop, I had a sign above my desk, featuring a medium looking into a crystal ball, that read "Communicating with Engineers is only a little more difficult than communication with the dead".

Idk why mill go brr made me laugh so hard after praising his intelligence😂

I hope it's as good as people say it is, I'm studying to become one and it's some very tough stuff hope it's worth the effort

Well depends on that they make having thin ass material and contures on samething well shit better pack same additional beer but just extrem thin starting material is actually pretty easy just make additional tools for the job yeha takes time but saves quite same nerve

So the thicker the machinist, the thinner the product

I'm an aircraft electrician with very little access to the engineers who design the product. Very frustrating. We work miracles every day to create a viable product in spite of thier designs. I see where the miracles will have to occur as soon as I lay eyes on the new engineering and I wonder how they don't see it. I loved your comment and I loved this video. Always trying to foster peace between MFG and ENG.

@@dankelly4984 That must be a really cool job! I used to work in construction management and now I work in consultant engineering so I've definitely been the guy cursing the stupidity of the engineers and the one looking at it going "well it looks great on paper, lets see how we screwed it up!" As a consultant engineer the most frustrating thing can be having a customer demand that we design something in a certain way, despite our objections to it, and then getting a call from them three months later asking why the construction contractor is saying it can't be built! It happens more than you might think...

I'm in the engineering field as well... Design build teams are common and effective for getting things built cost effectively but it's not for everyone... Some people would rather work for an architect than a contractor.

@@dankelly4984 I've worked in the same field, both with limited/no engineering access and worked on projects with engineers on the floor. It is night and day difference when you can point at the physical airframe and discuss it, face to face.

I'm an Engineering Technician in the electronics industry. Do have any idea how many times l changed the board design?

Ooo what were some of the things they said?

@@sheepsong5681 oh, sadly I don't remember the specifics now. But I do remember the overall theme of the stories I got. Essentially most of the stories revolved around designs that made assembly next to impossible. Welds needing to be done on the inside of closed spaces, welds needing to be done at the seem of two converging walls that only left inches of space, that sort of thing.

Many years ago I designed a crawler track frame. There were some internal welds to the frame. When I pointed that out to the fitter who was tacking it together he was not happy as he had progressed beyond being a “welder”. Then there was the engineering manager. He viewed me as a threat to his position. I had and have no interest in being an engineering manager. Too many anti-personnel departments. I left engineering. Besides SCH E beats W2

I've been a welder for 13-years and this is the main motivation for me now starting to learn designing myself. this "welders eye" is a huge advantage for designing.

@@unibeastbeats Having a practical eye is frequently missing in design engineering. The fact that I had both experience in welding and machining as well as what hardware was available and where to get it was a benefit to the design work I was doing. It is still beneficial for my hobbies.

Spend more time on the shop floor and learn to give and take a lot of cussing. I'm talking drunken sailor with 3 ex wives kind of swearing. You will most likely be on the receiving end. Rather than walking around in a daze, look at the tools and ask yourself: "How the Fuck am I going to build this with these tools?" That is after you get back with that left handed screw driver.

Most of this shit should be common sense tbh, if not from an engineering standpoint then from a business standpoint, shouldn't be wasting material makings designs that can't be made, and shouldn't use bits or tapping dies that are only gonna be used once.

In doing so you are making the lives of us machinists much easier, thank you

Exact same thing I do as an EE. Dad was a lineman so I became a groundman while I studied at school so that I know what really happens on the ground, there’s nothing more that blue collar guys hate more than a pencil pusher that doesn’t know what he’s talking about or hasn’t done it himself

@@Kumquat_Lord get to work and stop whining filthy machinist 💪🏾

yeah got a similar story, not a mech engineer but we had to have mech engineer classes part of our degree. Story of my prof was how someone wanted a form out of sheet metal welded . you could have made the part my just bending average sheet metal and tig welding it but the problem was the designer for some reason wanted so precise welds that you would have to do laser welding and the sheet metal was supposed to be I think 0.01mm thin "because it was mathematically strong enough". The head machinist of the company after reading this basically asked the designer to come down and show him how he would do it cause the head machinist couldnt figure it out... well the designer proceeded to take the drawing and tell them he will come back with something that works XD. Luckily in younger generations most mech engineering training already includes all the 5 mentioned points because the teachers had to learn it the hard way that these teachings are necessary

​@@dergunter1237what 0.01 mm? As thin as bacteria

@@raynaldisugatamawiranata1578 some bacteria yes. There was not much force on the sheet at all yet the solution was still bs and the designers goal was to minimize on weight while increasing surface area but it didnt work for obvious reasons. The problem is that a lot of designers tend to have no practical experience in production so they never question as long as the numbers are right

That's like an order of magnitude more precise than the average machining tools companies can get their hands on Not to mention making a reference to compare it to, which would need to be 10 times as precise for calibrating measurements It would be practically impossible to get an iso 9000 certification for it

Just curious do aerospace bolts and screws really require high tolerances? Can't you use some regular M* threads?

Navy contracts seem to ignore those points entirely. I hate having to destroy an entire box or circuit board from a limited global supply because a screw or pin broke. The Navy wants damn perfection every time and it's enforced by government contract, so they'll treat shortcuts like treason even if it means months or years of delay and an extra billion dollars from the taxpayer. It's insane

​@hyronvalkinson1749 Maybe the focus should be on repairablity, reliability, and cost? Instead of precision for the sake of precision?

@@bestaround3323 Absolutely. But furthermore it's politicians and brass making stupid decisions without consulting the ones who actually fo the work in order to appease other equally stupid administrators.

Second one in my brain translation. Easier to cut it? Ye.. THEN CUT IT AND SHUSH

@@slutforpotetoes2993 Honestly it goes for the replaceability too. Breaking a stem and replacing a stem (especially if you have a part number) is great. Breaking a stem and replacing the whole damn thing is terrible.

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​@@gugybuby8065 he can

You spelt phoenix wrong in your username

@MrAlex3461 my account is like 15 years old haha. Before youtube switched how usernames displayed, I had no idea I spelled it wrong the whole time

@@temporary912 Good way to get unemployed. And in some rural communities that can be enough to force a move or career change.

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