Why we should return the Elgin Marbles (to the Ottomans) | Pubcast #31 

You guys shouldn't be so worried about going over an hour! I prefer longer format and a 3+ hour pod of you three getting smashed just chatting shit would be peak entertainment! Special crimbo edition?

The Marbles should be reunited but it’s going to be hard to fit The Parthenon into The British Museum.

petition for Ava to start saying “thanks for having me” again. I miss it 👉🏻👈🏻

Like the age old question - Why are there pyramids in Egypt? Because they were too big to fit in the British museum.

I'd just sit and listen to you guys chat for 4 hours about fuck all. More of this 😅

Come for the political commentary, stay for "marble doesn't bounce"

I love you guys, inform me on stuff going on with good takes and just generally make me giggle at all the fun nonsense you talk about. Looking forward to the 100th episode and many more.

Ed going full Charles Bronson for Movember with that tash, t-shirt and haircut

I just listen to you guys fail to make a coherent point for an hour... It was magnificent!

I was 45 when I realised that the Elgin Marbles were not small balls of glass. It was a couple of weeks ago.

I think you can counter someone's message without platforming them

Ed is so good he could sense the news was switching and got down to the british meuseum early. You could do a compilation of pubcast clips from this year for the end of the year, I know it would be high effort but it would be so, so funny. Do something for episode 100, obviously.

Return our ottomans , we now have heated towel rails

Olli just seen you on Global catch up - 4am - 7am at the weekend. I'm going to take a listen. Well done mate.

I think Pubcast's coverage of the Israeli-Palestine conflict in recent weeks has been pretty poor, I say this from left wing perspective. Clearly they don't come from backgrounds that know the conflict in great depth, but they also haven't tried to fill those gaps. Have they even had a Palestinian voice on at anyone point? Personally, I don't think they have the experience and knowledge to cover the current conflict in much depth.

This is perfect to feel like you're on mushrooms when you run out.

My father recently passed away, but I always called him "aul lad"; mother will always be "nanny smurf" !!

As someone who occasionally gets migraines I just just want to make the observation that, if you could just sit back, relax and enjoy the show, the visual distortion would be quite pretty. Unfortunately you learn the first time it happens just what it means and the only real thought is, "HOW CAN I STOP THIS NOW?"

Worried that Ollie is turning into a James O’Brien 😢

I had an optical migraine a few years back and I described it to my good lady and she looked it up and I saw the exact C-shaped technicolour funky shape which grew until it vanished - no other symptoms and no obvious 'trigger'.

I love Ed talking about his Scottishness while casually wearing a Tennents t-shirt.

If you hit them out of the ring with one of your own marbles they become yours. That's the rules isn't it? Lord Elgin's thumbs must have been jacked!

These Pubcasts are such an enjoyable counterpoint to the rest of your content!!! 😅🤠💜

Didn't realise Ollie had Radio Show on LBC, maybe I should look into it 👀

We never got to hear what Ava wanted to say - instead Ed mentioned about ‘tits’. Sums up the podcast episode

Thanks for informing me that the Cleopatra mummy in the British Museum is not THE Cleopatra. I’m somewhat disappointed. I thought it was odd that such a well known historic figure is just casually laid to rest in a random corner the British Museum. It’s kind of sick that any of these Mummies are on display if you think about it. Undignified really.

Has Ed been drinking chocolate milk?

"should we take that out?" "possibly" "probably" >leaves it in

Now That's What I Call Bants 2023 ❤

We should give them back to the Greeks, the Ottomans occupied Greece and did not have the right to sell things off. Last night I was watching the Channel 4 news and some woman's whole argument for keeping them was 'the British Museum would be empty if we gave stuff back'. The safe house would be empty if it was raided by the police, who is ready to defend the criminals right to keep their stolen goods?

As a Greek living in Scotland, I approve of this conversation.

In most of the US you _could_ have a _marry merry Mary_ party because all three are pronounced nearly identically (though _not_ where I grew up-New York-so I still find that merger pretty weird).

I am in my 60s (aka an Entitled Boomer) and worked in London from 78-81. I remember the fireman's strike (a station at the end of our street on the A23), the binmen strike filling Leicester Sq, petrol tanker and ambulance drivers striking. I don't recall marches every weekend although I did hoot my horn outside the fire station to support them. Other than providing content for social media platforms, what have the recent marches actually achieved? What has happened as a direct result of them that would not have happened if no one had marched?

I get the visual aura a few times a year now, most of them do not turn into a full-blown migraine, but for those 20 minutes as it spreads through your visual field the sense of dread is just unbearable...

Just about to say the same Ava; you cannot make a joke about young people just following whatever their favourite celebrity thinks, then saying old people think that! I think you all should try talking to people in the 16 to 21 age group.

Are we not on episode 31 ??? Tf ?

This is the first time I've heard anyone describe the same ocular migraine symptoms that I get but it never ends in a headache.

Spunky Ava!!?

Regarding the marches, I think it's pretty obvious that the anti-semitism one on Sunday is a cynical plot to undermine the ceasefire one, right down to the way the media have reported on them both. That said, I think they also want to be condemned by those of us wanting a ceasefire to "prove their point", and I don't see the point of playing into that game because I don't see anything disagreeable with the messaging. The fight against anti-semitism and not wanting to see a population massacred by an insane right wing fascist government who claim to be the voice for all Jews are not diametrically opposed, if anything they are part and parcel of the same fight. As for Tommy Robinson, I don't see why an entire march should be branded because some idiot tried to hijack it. But it would be nice if that same mentality was applied to the ceasefire marches too, whereas we one again see an obvious hypocrisy at play. I do disagree with some takes here in how the extremists in both marches were handled, namely because Tommy is a single-named celebrity who telegraphed his appearance and gave organisers a chance to respond to him. He was arrested by the police, and I believe the extremists in the ceasefire marches also got arrested, the only difference is, one of these was videoed on the spot because it was predictable, while the others were a random group of unknowns who just appeared among crowds of hundreds of thousands. These two situations really can't be compared, especially when, as you point out, Tommy Robinson wasn't the only racist among the Sunday march, but again, the exploitation of a few shouldn't tarnish the entire thing.

wear dark sunglasses if that type of headache comes on, and a nap if can manage. quickest way I get rid of that exact headache type, a swirly flashing migraine spot

There is a game called Obama Llama - it is fun, and this podcast reminded me of it :)

Really enjoyed this one, the shit-talking was top notch. Good politics too

Obviously Oli's migraine got better by the end of the show

What Ottomans? There are no Ottomans? (Yes I commented before listening to the podcast)

I’ve been in a Phuket prison

There is actually an heir to the last Ottoman sultan, Harun Osman Osmanoğlu who is 91 years old and lives in Istanbul. Some people think he is technically Roman Emperor because the Ottomans took over from the Byzantine Emperor.

Got a migraine right now. I'm going to be mentally f****ed for a few days

my fav episode so far 🩵

im guessing that salary cap is going to have exceptions or is the care sector about to have a huge pay increase?

sorry im confused , whats happened to Oli ?

Olly, sounds like you have something called scintillating scotoma. It's a common visual disturbance that precede migraines. Atomic Shrip did an excellent video on the topic.

I thought we played that one for keepsies?

This is the closest you've come to actually recreating a pub chat. Bit of news, mostly bollocks

Kier starmer in a farmers llama pyjamas

Ava calls her mum by her name???

100th ep/end of year special = poljoe end of year review?

Show them anything from Yorkshire sculpture park

Despite Ed sounding like the very icky Fraser Nelson , he does pronounce "Ska " correctly.

love podcast no is the show podcast ladies and gentlemen

You should offer Stephen a box of chocolates to come on the show.

Boringly, Stonehenge actually did fall down. The Victorians put it back up..

Mr Elgin wasn't some great archaeologist, historian. He was a wheeling dealing thief who nicked the marbles. Athens has a great museum, so they get the real ones and we get the mock-ups.

Is Ed "the Filth" growing that mustache as nominative determinism?

Yes return them by all means, I imagine museums across the UK have their share of imperial booty or droits of empire. Museums might do exchanges with other countries/ cultures museums, rather than having items in store on mass…

No. How much stuff did the Greeks take from Persia for instance ? Will they give back the hundreds of pounds of gold and silver recorded as Alexander’s spoils ? I thought it would be politically incorrect to mention the slaves but I guess Greece has got Repartitions to deal with too.

Ed, Movember! You look like you’ve just had a hot chocolate

Miss the older podcasts that were more politically based but with the banter rather than just banter and no politics

Do you call that a pubcast? 😡

Why do you title the video something quite offensive and then hardly talk about the Elgin Marbles?

Just make copies and send them back to Turkey , or demand Greece give us our money back...what am I saying , Greece giving us money!

I just don't see why we don't.... It's just not worth fighting over?

Johnson, wife oh and baby. Plus photographer and security personnel, and ‘funny’ hat. Clear he has his agenda. He had no business to be there.

I don't get why they don't just make it legal for the Museums to sell these items. Their countries of origin clearly want them more and then the museums could spend the money on other exhibits.

Ed, did Monica spit or swallow? I guess Ava told us.

Ball ification it’s all balls total balls 🎱

"what should you show people who tweat [images of Greek white marble statues]" Images of the same statues painted colourfully as they originally were, dark skin tones and all.

Is Ed right handed?

Obviously, in the 21st Century, we should hand back the ‘marbles.’ I love our museums here in Britain, but they are full of booty snaffled from across the globe over the past four hundred years, which as a criminal justice academic tends to cause me discomfort.

Continue to be disappointed by the takes on Palestine by this podcast. Criticising folk for where they get their info from whilst you yourselves are simultaneously pumping out ahistoric, tepid takes on the matter.

They should stay put!

Why are you using green gel filters in your videos? Such goulish pranks!

If you put Yaxley on - i'm out for good. I'm usually up for hearing different views, but giving a member of the far right a platform & lending him credibility is not on. The responsibility for these people growing their platform is on all journalists and I won't be a part of that even as a consumer of your channel.

The main reason they should be returned is, they're shite, taking up space that a messy bedroom can be displayed or something, but seriously, they really are shite, let them take them back.

Americans are largely better at the whole auditing business. Audit the Audit is a classic. Just adding random shite to the discussion at the start.

Ava is queen, and, sorry, these het men must face up their shortcomings for not appreciating a Beyoncé reference.

The marbles, the Davide porcelains, the Egyptian mummies, the Persian sculptures.

The Marbles are actually huge emeralds and huge rubies and colorful diamonds, that are rounded perfectly and were played with by royals. These other statues are distractions...

If we'd left them there either the Turks would have made them into cement or the air pollution would have dissolved them.

NEVER

Please don't let Yaxley Lennon on your pod. You're better than that.

We should all return our marbles to the ottoman

My wife gets migraines if she is on the pill as well.

What is going on here? I fail to understand the meta subtext. Too much jargon but technically not jargon? What is it? I am sensing a lot of hedonistic tension and barely contained impulses. That does not bode well for the next generation of youngins.

Who cares it's a ridiculous diversion.

The constant giggling and irrelevant information really destorys this podcast

Stop this nonsense. Why can't we display anything in our museums without them being from the UK.

the Greek government has no claim to ownership of the marbles, they were bought legally from the Ottoman empire and then transported to the UK. They are literally legally the property of the BM since they paid Elgin for them. The modern Greek government has as much claim to own them as the current Egyptian gov can claim they own the pyramids, the only difference is the pyramids are bit too hard to move to a country where they will be properly cared for!

YOU'RE GONNA LOOK BACK ONE DAY AND THINK, "WHAT A IDIOT I SOUND DOING THOSE STUPID SHOUTING INTROS'. So baby-ish.

Enjoyed the discussion, did not enjoy the pissing around, the in jokes and constant giggling. It's just not easy to listen to.

Why is the Joe a click baiting pulp news account on Facebook, but an informed politics podcast on RU-vid?