Why You Need To Replay Prey - Rant/Review Follow-up 

I guess you need to REPREY the game AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I want to die

Respect anyone willing to go back out to their audience and say that their view has changed on something. Most people would be too stubborn/proud for that sort of thing. Good video mate. P.S straya carnt

Good video but the Recycle and Fabrication system really fits the game's narrative and is better than the usual way of picking up trash and it magically turning into coins. That whole station's basic purpose is for research and development and using a system like this makes the most sense, especially with it's crew staying aboard for long periods of time.

mad respect man, it's hard to go back and say your perspective changed after the dust settled, honestly I was the same way with Fallout 4 but in reverse I initially loved it but later after a bit actually thought it was disappointing

It might not be Prey 2, but it's still a sweetass game and everyone should give it a chance based on its own merits.

Sooooo.... maybe reviewers shouldn't race out their sub 24 hour reviews.

The moment it all clicked for me was when I needed to get into a room. It was locked and I didn't have the key, my skills were too low to hack the door, and the window was barred so I couldn't climb through the glass. Then I noticed the door override button inside the room, so I shot it through the window with the nerf gun and it worked!

I'm REALLY glad you went back to take another look at this game. You addressed almost everything where I think you were wrong in your original review. You just got a new sub with this video.

Kind of an old topic at this point, I know. But I'd like you to know that your videos convinced me to pick this up for myself, and eventually discover what could be one of my new favorite games. Just thought you'd like to hear that...

Just fyi, you can use the mimic ability to get under the windows of security stations, and also acess rooms and crawlspaces and find alternative paths that you otherwise may not be able to use. I never use it in an attempt to sneak, I exclusively use it as a tool to get into blocked off places

8:08 I'm kinda irritated that people seam to forget that in System Shock 2 at that specific moment you are given a message that basically says "Hey! If you don't have hacking at this level here are some upgrade modules!"

My friend. Even though you’ve made this about a year ago, I do want to say that you’ve definitely said what needs to be said. I’ve had your experience with this as well: barely having jack to work with throughout my first play through and scraping by on encounters before becoming much more efficient with my second play through, being able to kill enemies with a bit more ease, and actually experimenting more with the mechanics given to me. The turrets were something I had come to use as more than just area denial, but as a means of luring typhon and other enemies into a trap. The environment began to resemble much more of a field of endless possibility, such as upgrading to Leverage 3 to move a large object out of a doorway or use an explosive canister to actually blow the thing out of the way. Going with guns, using larger objects to throw at typhon to kill them, or guiding them into pipes to unleash flames upon them. I’ve played through this game at least 4 times, and I’ve enjoyed it every time. I’m sorry if I sound kind of idiotic saying all of this, especially considering how I just wanted to thank you for doing this game justice, but... yeah. Thank you.

Prey's biggest problem: *"Prey"*

It's funny how your experience in your second playthrough was like my experience on my first. I played on hard, was very methodical, and ended up with around 30 medkits and lots of ammo.

When my man Gggman not just puts "Best Game of 2017?" in the title of a review, but makes a rant about how people only played through this game once, I know I need to get that shit ASAP. Which is what I am going to do.

Stalker and Prey are pretty much the Blade Runner of video games, they need multiple viewings before you can fully appreciate it

I loved the game since the start... 😍 I almost made a nasty comment on your original video. Then I saw this. 😂 Thank you for giving this masterpiece another chanse. 🤗

Did you have any issues with the late game quest called "The Repo Man" which requires you to find and kill a specific operator? For me the game just didn't mark where it was so I spent an hour looking for the damn thing and based on what I see online, many people seem to think it's bugged in general. It really hurts the pacing right at the end of the game.

Similar to what happenned in Videogamedunkey's dunkview about The Last of Us, he only recognized the majority of possitive points he overlooked with the game the second time he played it, that was not because of game design, he simply missed them, but he did not made an actual video explaining that, so pretty big kudos for your consistent quality reviews, and for your first rectification. You're truly a man worthy of respect.

This game is amazing. Thanks for suggesting it to me. I had the best time in my life with it. I 100% it tonight after 60 hours of gameplay.

It's still kinda shitty Bethesda didn't feel like taking a chance on a new IP so they just slap the name Prey on something completely unrelated

Are they patching reviews now too

I actually really liked the recycling aspect. Scrounging together items from the environment and piling them to use with my last recycler grenade to get enough to upgrade felt fun and tense.

This was weird I watched your review for this after playing prey and thought you needed to play it through. Glad you did it its great

Very spot on description, mate

6:30 Me, who used the wrench almost exclusively: *oh* No but seriously, with the right chipset and that one Psionic ability that lets you teleport forward the wrench is probably the best weapon in the game as it lets you conserve ammo for bigger enemies.

Heh, I replayed the game like 3 times now. Glad to see you did a follow-up video. This game is one of the most underrated games of 2017.

I've spent two sleepless night with this. Just couldn't drop it. Best $13 dollars ever spent. Its a really good game and people at Night Dive Studios will really need to step up their game with that System Shock remake of theirs.

I'm happy to see the game getting the praise it deserves. This is as close to a System Shock reboot we'll ever get.

I fucking loved the game. Absolutely love it. The music is so fitting and very unique, great story (until the end), many different ways to play and replay, beautiful visuals and design, and a, imo, unique weapon as unique and versatile as the Gravity Gun, the Gloo gun. Also, I feel the mimic jump scare isn't cheap as it is a punishment for being careless.

the mimic ability is used for getting into locked rooms or rooms where the door has been jammed. you can turn into a small object and move through a tiny gap and get into the room and unlock it from the inside.

I'm really glad you made this video! I'm neck deep in my first playthrough still but it's like everything I discover peels off another layer of what's possible so I was disappointed with your initial assessment to say the least. It's absolutely a game about the environment. How it changes, what you face along the way, and the IMMENSE attention to detail. Like every lamp is plugged into an outlet levels of detail.

Ok, I Always aggreed with you un til the Prey review, and now this, :))) This is awesome man, someone with the balls to change idea. Great Channel and great Job.

Now that's the reasonable in-depth-going Gggman I know

Wham bam thank you Gggman for the great review.

Huge muchos spoileros in this comment, dont open if you havent played the game. And same in german, DAS GROSSE SPOILER ACHTUNG, JAWOHL. [spoiler] I think the story is good and seems that most people don't seem to understand it. It is NOT a dream. You are "Project Cobalt" (There is voice log about this at the beginning of game in psychotronics, it basically is what the game is, go check it out) research subject, a captured(?) typhon who is given mirror neurons to see if they could empathise like human. The simulation happens after Earth is already or nearly destroyed, maybe as a last measure to try save humankind. The typhon is put thru simulation which consists of now deceased(??) Morgan's memories of what happened at the Station. At the end, depending how you play, Alex and the operators talk if the experiment was a success or not, could IT (Typhon with mirror neutrons) empathise with human and should it be spared or killed. If spared, the last experiment is that Alex gives his hand -> If you take it the experiment is a success -> Alex made typhon empathise with human, so maybe he saved human race from extinction. Secondly, in the epilogy there is a frame where Alex disappears and only the operators are present, hinting that Alex isn't really there and maybe he is dead and just projected there somehow. I don't think that is the case, but rather what Alex hints earlier that "they dont see us" or something in lines of "they dont kill us because they are cruel, but thats what they are" and Alex disappearing from vision is the "Old" typhon trying to wrestle the control (NOT seeing Alex), same as the dark whispers "they are lying to you" is the old "you" before mirror neutrons. "Can you really SEE us" nuff said. Sorry that the explanation is bit messy.. if you have completed the game tho, you should be able to see my point, even if you do not agree. I know this also has some faults, but that's something I have gathered. [/spoiler]

Rant Review? This is new.

Sniff sniff. Yup this smells like damage control to me. Seriously GG, you were off the mark about this game (except the combat which I still think isn't as strong as it could be largely due to audio and visual feedback) so I'm glad you made this follow up. And frankly the more coverage this game gets the better. MORE IMMERSIVE SIMS PLEASE!

I think it's really cool that you did this

This is honestly some of the best advice I've been given in relation to games in a long time. The first playthrough I did was on Hard difficulty (second hardest the game offers) and it kicked my ass. I was constantly struggling to stay alive against the Typhon, whether it was a scarcity of ammo, health, or psi; I was constantly lacking the resources to fight back. I've now started a second playthrough on Nightmare difficulty (highest difficulty the game offers) and I'm actually finding it easier now that I know what I'm doing. I've just reached Psychotronics for the first time (again) and I have a surplus of pretty much everything; meds, ammo, crafting supplies, suit repair kits, etc. Going back to play the game immediately after you've finished it, and playing the early sections armed with the knowledge you had at the end of your first playthrough can make the game infinitely more enjoyable. I won't spoil the story, but the theme of the game very much supports a Groundhog Day mentality anyway, so honestly, if you're not playing this game through more than once, I think you're playing it wrong.

DON'T FEAR THE REAP... Wait wrong game...

G'day bloke, glad you revisited this as i agree it should be played a few times, maybe not back to back but to try different ways of playing at least and having watched other people and discussed it with them it's surprising how different people approach the game. Keep up the good work =)

Finally a game that is hard and does not hold your hand the whole time. mainstream gamers today don't know how it is to lose a game and just get babysitted though the whole game. Also the weapons are fine, you are fighting superior Aliens, not shooting humans, ofc they are hard to kill.

I never thought I would see GGG do a follow up video of a single game besides updates of reviews like Soldier of fortune 2

"I'm gonna tell you why I was wrong and why you should buy the game in this video but don't watch this video if you haven't played the game" -_-

Yeah I feel you approached it run n gun for the initial review and now you appreciate because you realized its better to play as a survival game. rationing resources, using the environment, and thoroughly using and breaking down every bit of raw material to build things up.

Great video review, triple G

I am so fucking happy you made this video. I love watching your reviews but I was thoroughly disappointed with your Prey review. I am no longer ashamed to admit that this has become my favorite game of all time. Most of the criticism it gets isn't even really about the game but just a blind loyalty hate for the original Prey which this does not set out to replace! I really like to take my time and see as much as possible, which is what makes me laugh when people try to say it's monotonous or boring, I even saw reviews giving it a 0/10 saying it is "THE WORST GAME THEYVE EVER PLAYED." Call me slow, call me deliberate or OCD but I just logged off my PS4 for the night and clocked in my 37th hour on my first playthrough on normal difficulty and I still have 17 side missions sitting in my quest log and entire portions of the station I haven't even seen yet. This game is challenging, enticing, and downright immersive as can be. There are so many mechanics in this game that just clicked so well with me. My favorite game WAS the original Bioshock, and I almost felt guilty after telling my brother the day I got Prey only 10 hours in that this had become my new favorite game. I read what I think is probably the best "review" of this game that basically said that Prey is a game where no matter what, no two people will have the same experience or even the same sequence of events that create the 'main' story, but in an organic non-sequence breaking way that makes you realize just how truly unique this game really is. I don't know if it's just me either but I also feel like every hour I've played, there is some new mechanic added that keeps things fresh and tense that is just so amazing to play. The first time I exited the airlock and was gliding around in 0 G I thought something was wrong with the game because my character wasn't moving... at least I thought. Little did I realize how unbelievably MASSIVE the station is, and giving you free reign to literally scour the entire ship inside AND out just made my jaw drop. This is the game I never thought would exist, the one that reminded me why I fell in love with gaming. Thanks again for this video, I no longer feel like I'm crazy for being amazed by this game.

Stealth is handy for sneak attacks and also tagging targets and then planning out your attacks. Tagging enemies, throwing a typhoon lure to group them together, and then catching them all with supethermal is awesome. It seems like my typical gameplay loop is sneak, psychshock, gloo gun, and then shotgun until the phantom is dead in 1 on 1 encounters. The great thing is I could play through the game again with different skills/powers with a completely different approach, and so could anyone else. I have a hard time balancing the skills, because I enjoy the powers for combat, but I also enjoy leverage, repair, and hacking for exploration because I just have to unlock every single room/safe. I spend so much time in the neuromods tab just deciding which skills to get.

best reviews for games :D awesome channel!

I agree with your rant right there, sometimes some games have to be replayed more than once for the full experience. As one of my favourite games of all time Deus Ex (One) is one I didn't experience fully until I replayed it for the 2nd time and I love it to bits because of the freedom you can do in the game world and that made me played the game at least more than 10 times.

Me, who had an entire first playthrough with Zero Typhon Powers: You'll regret not maxing out Wrench skills, for real though, it's so effective and efficient in the long run as long as you play resourcefully and use your environment

I actually kind of like the recycling and fabrication system, it kind of makes sense for a world building stand point, since this is a station filled with scientists and business men and women for various projects. It wouldn't make sense for it to run on currency, it's like if a mess hall at an army boot camp forced you to pay money to eat, it doesn't seem very practical given the moment. Plus, I suppose they also wanted the fab system to force the player to ration items, like would you find the psi hypos more important or the materials recycled from them to help make med kits or ammo.

glad u liked it, happy that u gave it another go.

I think I'm going to give up on most game critics. Not praising this game to high heaven but praising fucking Zelda means I have nothing in common with game journalists. Good thing we have Sunny Jim here to show people the light!

I think my experience with the game speaks exactly what you're saying: I used the wrench all the time. Killed mimics in one-four hits, I had over 90 medikits that I just found all over the station (I used a lot of food with that metabolism perk which made healing easy), and I never really ran low on ammo past a certain point. This said, I also crafted around 100+ neuromods because I recycled every little scrap I could and then some. I never used powers outside of one level of transforming and relied mostly on guns and that combat sense which slowed down time. I made extreme use of the free suit/health/psi bots, so maybe that's why most psi hypos were just recycled. Seeing the footage you had, you were far more liberal with the powers which makes a run completely different. GLOO+shotgun once you have the right perks? Simple and effective, but if I put those points into stronger powers, I'd have just an easy time. Just with different form of ammo.

Jesus, it's like people can't understand an opinion on a game can be complex with positives and negatives, and sometimes the game just gets better once its mechanics and gameplay style mature in your mind. The first time I play Morrowind I thought it was crap, it is now one of my favorites. The first playthrough I tried playing the game that was counter inductive to the way the game was best played as, and mistakes that haunted me from the beginning to the end of the first playthrough were avoided in my subsequent games.

Is there any reference to Fahrenheit 451 or at least the code 451 in Prey? Because if Arkane took key notes from SystemShock and Bioshock they must reference that code

The mimic abilty is a cool as hell way to get in places you wouldn't be able to otherwise

You are my favourite game reviewer by far, great video mate

My first play through I was hiding from everything like a scared rabbit, barely having enough ammo and health to scrape by. My second play through I was a psychic templar, shotgun wielding demigod who farmed the nightmare everytime he showed up.

I love this game, I wish more people would play it so we could get the sequel it deserves

I really hope the two new System Shock games don't suck.

I have yet to beat the game yet but probably will replay it once I do. But can anyone tell me if my neuromod and weapon upgrades carry over to the replay game once I beat it or do you just start from scratch again?

I REALLY enjoyed this game. It was different, refreshing, terrifying!! I played the hell out of it, and there's still parts of the station I never saw! I got such a great Bioshock vibe from the game, but with a nice fresh twist on the formula. The retrofuturistic style was unique, too.

I enjoyed this game so much, played it 3 times full and I haven't done that since 2008 with... Bioshock. I think is one of the best designed game of 2017. Great videos man!

On a side note - its my first time coming to Aus on Thursday... where can I get a good Reuben and/or pint?

*slow clap* Well done, a very good review. THIS is the review that you should have made in the beginning, you patiently, perfectly and very professionally explained the cons and faults of the game, and even gave a few helpful insights. Keep up the good work. Sonny.

Just finished hard, and I had this shotgun build going on and it was crazy strong. maximum ammount of damage with as much damage buff stuff and you destroy anything.

Have you tried Mooncrash? I really enjoyed it, and played it first time around 30 hours compared to 15 for prey.

it's why you combine the effect of GLOO with your gunfire, use that with a fully Upgraded Shotgun and you can kill most Typhon (except maybe Telepath's and Nightmare's) in one or two hits, never used the Q Beam myself but hey this game encourages different tactics so each his own.

Back in the day SystemShock 2 was may favorite game, though I got stuck I didn't finished it. Right off the bet I recognized Prey as "spiritual successor". The things that makes it "a SystemShock game" are - 1) only one or two enemies at a time, feeling like mini bosses whey you first encounter them and never complete push-overs. 2) Exploration, non linear 3) Multiple approaches 4) hard as hall in the very beginning, for the first time 5) Respawning enemies - you are never ever safe. It is funny how BioShock was considered "inspired" by SS, yet it had non of these or was extremely, extremely limited.

Very nice re-review. I understand most of your points and they end up being personal preference. The shop system is one of the things that I think it adds the most to the immersion. The mimic mod is VERY useful for traversing obstacles like squeezing trough a door while in a shape of a whine bottle (never actually used it for stealth). And I think the story is excellent, don't really understand why people hate this kind of plot twist but oh well. I really didn't see it coming so at least for me the story blew my mind.

Hyped for the Strafe review

I personally like that the enemies are hard to kill as in my opinion an enemy is more scary and hence more interesting when they take more than 2-3 shots to kill. Having hard enemies is especially important for a survival horror game as I think you're supposed to feel like you're facing overwhelming odds unlike playing a game where your character is an unrealistic badass that can kill an army by itself. I loved this game, my only complaint is the lack of enemy and arsenal variety.

I have to admit, i didn't see this comming (neither i understand). I'm not telling this as a criticism, but by the last review you did of this game, i would never guess that you would give it a replay.. specially that soon. Did the comments on the other review point out things that you felt you could explore more? Or idk, after put the game down, you realise that you missed it (it happen with me before with games that i though i didn't like that much)?

It's funny when you said how the game pushes you to use alien abilities because I deliberately avoided ALL psi-onic stuff and I thought the opposite. I wondered how I would get by without all the hacking, repairing and weapon-boosts to even the odds, and I found I always had a surplus of supplies and tools to use. I guess that goes to show how much the game truly is tailored to how you want to play.

10:01 While I understand that it might not be the fastest way, I still think its pretty neat that they managed to make it feel like a part of the game world; like something that people on Talos I would use. I mean, even "skill points" are actual objects in the game. The game could've used a "Fabricate 'n' number of one item immediately" option, sure, but other than that I really didn't have a problem with recycling and fabricating.

I think the crafting system works better split into 4 elements as it prevents you from just making the most essential items all the time. For my 1st playthrough I was always low on Organic matter and so like you had very few MedKits which influenced my play-style in a way it wouldn't if I could just buy dozens of them.

I literally just wacthed your original review before this one and it sounds like two COMPLETELY different people reviewed this game haha

Desperately wanted to see your video. Then, you mentioned there are spoilers. Well, SHIIIIIT, will have to play it first then.

Just a question but what do you mean something is similar to the bioshock series, what are the gameplay and level design similarities between them.

I think they balanced the weapons around how good they’d be if you neuromod into full upgradability and max security weapon damage. I was able to run and gun with a 10 shot shotgun by the end. gonna replays on a harder mode with a sort of engineer only build or typhoon only mode

Gggman is the best FPS reviewer by far and I wonder if maybe this is how video games should be reviewed; with reviewers specializing in a genre.

The worst part about this game is the hacking minigame, it's mind numbingly dull. It felt like a quick program someone whipped up to test analog stick control because it's not challenging, interesting or anything. All you do is move a circle to another circle and hit a QTE while dodging stationary blocks, some freeze your cursor when you bump them for a moment. For each level of skill required it goes up a time you have to do this. The problem is it takes a while to do some of them, the later ones requiring you to run the circle across the map FOUR, TIMES. And if you take the hacking route it's got a lot of usefulness meaning you're sat around doing this tedious minigame. I'd rather have had the pipe minigame from bioshock, at least it'd have been some kind of thing for my brain to do.

Props to you for giving the game a second chance. Most reviewers are too prideful to make a follow up video mentioning their changed view. Some of my favorite games took a few playthroughs to get into. Heck, it's not just games, but films and TV shows as well.

I'm glad you made this vid. I thought your review of Prey was pretty harsh.

WHAT YOU DON'T USE THE MIMIC ABILITY??? The mimic ability is free shit for 2 neuromods. Do you know how many leverage III blockages you can get past by turning into a cocktail glass?

I wish they'd re-released PREY (2005) on PS4 - It's a great, mind-bending ton-a-fun game! And very original!

And this is why you're one of the best reviewers on this website

10:34 recycling bombs was actually really useful to me because I didn't put any point into leverage so I couldn't clear some of the blocken doors without recycling them and also if you're inventory is full you can just drop all of you're junk and recycle them i find them to be one of the most useful tools in game

I'm definitely going to be snagging this soon.

Great video. I’m going out to buy this game later today. Multi playthrews sounds great.

It wasn't all a dream at the end, they were true memories of Morgans, that were put into the typhon.

im glad you did a follow up man because this game is def better than the way you treated it in our first review.it respects the players intellect and dosent treat you like a moron or hold your hand like most triple a games.im 20 hours my first playthrough and im nowhere near done trying out all the powers and getting lost in this well crafted unique world arkane has built

Good on you for giving the game another chance.

I did enjoy this game upon playing it and I understand your thoughts with "replaying is the best part of the experience" but don't you think a game should be able to hold itself up on its own merit the first time through? I mean why should I have to go through the entire game once or even multiple times to get the best experience? Idk I feel like it's sortve a cheap way of judging a game.

Well, that was unexpected. I don't know if I quite agree with your conclusion, but it's interesting to see you suddenly return to a game you'd sort of written off a few days before.

Did you say you were going to spoil the ending of the game in this video or did I miss that because it is spoiled for me now and I'm kinda miffed

I am developing a game and i was asking myself yesterday if focusing the gameplay in "layers" that you can see only with multiple playthroughs is something that is compatible with modern gaming audience. This feature is so common in rogue-lite games, play and play and play it again to see new things and new challenges, with a forceful death mechanic and there are so few cases of "classic style" genres were you find that. Games like System Shock 2 or Dark Souls hit that spot of a title that can give you options to explore, more than just spongy enemies in harder difficulties :)