The Making of PREY - Documentary 

Honestly it is so sad, you can really tell it was the outcome of this project which was the primary driver in him leaveing arkane, it looked like he was about to cry at one point.

If only they didn't have that save file bug at launch... It would have been received as well as Deathloop (aside the stuttering on PC)

@@marc-antoinemarcoux697 i didnt saw cyberpunk receiving such Bad reviews despite all the bugs. Cyberpunk is à Bad game even without the bugs and received some 10/10. Video Games media are corrupted

Giving "sequel" to already established ip was not what the fans were expecting. Had the name being different. it would've somewhat popped off

@@AintPopular thats a lame excuse. Probably the worst criticism abt that game. Blaming on what its not rather than what it is.

No kidding.. I agree

And Bioshock

Yea we tried to tackle some of the reasons behind that in this doc. Hopefully we show some light on it. Thanks so much for watching!

fact that Deathloop is getting far better reviews while being objectively worse games makes me doubt with critics credibility. Merely 75% of critics recommended Prey vs 94% recommending Deathloop. That's just BS

@@mroutcast8515 Maybe they feel bad for what happened to Prey?

@@mroutcast8515 How are you gonna say that Deathloop is objectively worse... it came out yesterday. There is no way (1) that you could have put enough time into It yet to be able to say conclusively that it's worse and (2) that anyone could ever use the word "objectively" correctly in applying it to criticism, which is inherently subjective.

@@DaMorg3 design inconsistency, unclear identity of what the game even wants to be, irrelevant level design - just to name a few objective negatives for Deathloop. Also independent reviewers actually had quite a bit of criticism.

still bugging a friend to play mooncrash to this day!

@@LupricalArcadius im currently having a blast with deathloop, similar mechanics, absolutely great game

Me whenever I think about Titanfall 2 and hunt showdown

Absolutely. Prey was so well made on all levels.

I will get to it, eventually but I want to play through their latest game (Deathloop) first.

I overlooked it because it looked like yet another Bioshock, which was dogshit compared to SS2.

You don't need marketing for a great game. Past 2013 singles player games have taken a nose dive and widen their audience base thus making the games to shit.

@@historyZZ uhhhhh i dont disagree with the fact that a lot off games try to widen their audience base resulting in a worse game overall. But stating that marketing isnt needed for a great game is rediculous. If you look at the launch trailer of this game its looks like an average space combat game, not like the sim that it actually is. Same goes with the typhon trailer. They knew how unique the typons were but if you look at that trailer they seem like bland bullet sponges. I think if they leaned a bit more towards the horror aspect of the game it would have perfomed better with sales. Myself found the demo by accident while browsing the xbox marketplace. Why wasnt the demo not promoted more? The opening hour of this game is one of the most memorable. Think if the demo was more promoted and the trailers were at least in the same flavour of the game itself, it wouldve flourished a lot more. O and the difficulty..... in this game difficulty has a lot of impact on how you play and you experience things. Pair this with how early reviewers casually play games(on easier difficulties) and the bland trailers made for a hot mess. This was Arkane's own creation and i still think that naming it Prey due to it bethesda owning the brand and it loosly having the same concepts made it perform give the wrong impression. Both games have nothing a like... expect for the name and being in space...

@@SashyNL @SashyNL csgo, L.O.L have you ever seen an ad for them? Not one and they're in the top 5 most successful games in the world. Honestly you don't need marketing for a great game like I said. If the game is good enough it'll pass through ears. I tell all my buddies what games are good and what games are shit and vice versa.

@@historyZZ First of all, you're making a mistake by assuming CSGO and LoL are good games. Secondly, CSGO and LoL have SHIT TONS of marketing put into them through Esports. Esports are a form of marketing. CSGO and LoL are two of the largest Esports games on the planet. So yeah, games need marketing

...and scary

and awe inspiring when you do that first spacewalk.

​@@JKArcade I found it just as horrifying as it is awe inspiring

a game like this only comes around once every 5-7 years, sadly they maked ut a bit too easy, the full potential only comes with the hardest difficulty

I wish I'd gone in blind

Have you played Bioshock? That's scratches the same itch that Prey does for me.

It's such a small, simple thing, that can be easily overlooked or taken for granted, but I remember seeing a phantom actually run away _and hide_ from the player. A hostile AI that has a sense of self preservation? More than that was the sense of empathy it produced: it knew it was outmatched. When the player pursued it and found it hiding behind the couch to finish it off you could sense its fear. It started out the predator but became the prey. It actually grew to fear what the player had become. And it ran. For its life. If it was me playing, I wouldn't have finished it off so soon. Looking at it cowering there, I took pity. It felt alive. I really think I would've let it go.

@@fireaza just played through the legendary release! Another extremely rich setting. On to mass effect!

It's just a shitty system/bioshock clone.

@@johnmirra6707 have you played Prey to the end? Or just don't like what you've seen so far?

I love the noclip documentaries because they often remind us to be sensitive to the intentions and efforts of developers, and to include that in our critique and experiences of their games. I don't have any particular concern with journalists being critical about a bug, but it's the old cliche 'with power comes responsibility' and I suppose I expect more reflection and consideration in this content than I used to as a teenager.

Many of those so called "game journalists" who trash a great game over a single bug (Kotaku?) are just jealous they don't have the talent to make video games full time like the phenomenal people at Arkane.

That review was embarrassing!

I dismiss reviews like that. Nowadays you have to read between the lines on reviews. Like I've bought a game based on a negative review because alot of what the reviewer was complaining about was things I actually *like*.

Shouldn't have betrayed their fellow game developers and stolen the name Prey. Arkane deserves nothing but failure.

Perhaps you're right, I've started, stopped, and replayed the beginning so many times but chickened out early. I never got very far 😂

especially Mooncrash

you'd end up murdering the crew if they could do that.

Woah, didn't expect to find you in the wild! Love your stuff!

@@DatHypnoboi haha thanks! I’m all over the place

marco simmons:

Welcome to the next level 😂

Were they actually trained architects? Because, if you call yourself an architect, you'd better be able to back it up. It's like calling yourself a "doctor" without a high-level, multi-year qualification.

w0mbles It’s a video game, these are devs you can calm down a little. Also architects and engineers can work on digital environments, it’s basically no different than using digital means to visualize and blueprint different things

I agree with you about the level design! Such a great game.

​@daverappmmaYou want the game to mark your path to an objective with green smoke trail ?😂 This is what modern adhd AAA games does to your brain

@@adnanmahmudshohan4951 You can disagree without hurling insults. It's possible.

@@herrpezyou may disagree with me but i respect you for your reply above me

My favorite part was the DnD group and finally finding where they all met up to play.

Continues with Deathloop

@@Skullkan6 Looks like Deathloop could finally break through with sold copies as unlike Prey, everybody is talking about it, I see new reviews daily and Bethesda finally gave them proper marketing money. Also Sony was involved which helped with hype.

​@@Scarecr0wnAnd then Redfall happens, Arkane can't catch a break it looks like.

@@victtorsm Man, I don´t even know anymore. After Jason Schreier´s report on what happened in Arkane, I don´t really have any hope for Arkane. And it makes me fcking sad because I love Dishonored and Prey so much.

Take a look at the s.t.a.l.k.e.r trilogy, these Games are also special and a unique experience. A classic cult

Going through it for my first time and the sheer vastness of every area DESPITE it being quite literally in a vacuum with very limited space speaks volumes to how much work they put in. It has me already excited thinking about my second playthrough WHILE I’m still doing my first. Scaling it down would severely dampen this sense of an actual fully realized world that you can never appreciate in a single go. Makes me worry of a shift to games like the Outer Worlds that had no real replayability.

Talos 1 is just such an incredible setting, it kept reminding me of the black mesa facility which is a very good thing!

I think Remedy had similar goals with Control, for the entire game to be set in "one massive building, area, or interconnected level". As a player, I'm also starting to heavily prefer these types of handcrafted single-level worlds over the open-world formula that's become so bland and generic over the past decade.

Same here.Both were amazing places to explore

Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.

@@BackfallGenius Ah Control.. what a game. What a beautfiul gem that was.

The call of the Prey fan. In space, no one can hear us tell everyone there is a fantastic SS3 game you can play right now.

I agree!

I enjoyed the game until the ending. It was dissatisfying. When that visor popped open I was crestfallen.

@@Monsoon888 While I agree, it makes Mooncrash make more sense though.

It's criminal that it is so underrated. It's heartbreaking and abhorrent that Dishonored gets credit as a better game.

Exactly the same here.

@@bensbasement4587 This was my husband's problem. and he REGRETS CRAPPING ON THIS GAME SO MUCH before he played it. His powers of stupid assumption are truly a spectacle to behold. In his defense he is not a fan of 1st person perspective games, and as such the original Prey (a generic Doom style FPS) is absolute dumpster leakage to him. So, when we finally picked it up when we got Game Pass a few years back (before Microsoft picked up Bethesda) ... He figured if he was going to talk down about a game, he should at least put his hands on it. He was up playing it all night. I found him almost crying the next morning. He was absolutely devastated. He felt so bad because he talked so much trash about the game... and NONE of it was true. He was absolutely blown away. He said he expected, worst case scenario, to be wrong, but not like this. He expected an alright game. This was so much more. It was so unique. He wasn't ready for this. It honestly endeared both of us to the game that much more.

PsychoShock

@@shelceygusek427 hey hey hey no need to down play the original Prey. It is a great game too and definitely not generic

I readily insult IGN for their bland and shallow reviews. They seem so concerned with sounding objective that the reviewer's opinions don't really come through. Everyone has a different opinion, and mine might not match the reviewer's opinion, but I still want to hear their impression and WHY. I'm a huge fan of Game Informer. They consistently write such detailed reviews, explaining the reasoning behind their opinions, that I can not only discern what the reviewer thought of the game, but also what I would think of the game, almost feels as if I got to play it myself. So there are times where I read a review, and the reviewer left a middling score, but I look at what they said about the game and say "that sounds like tons of fun for me" and get the game, and really enjoy it. Sometimes the other way around (classic example is sports games... some get great reviews, and I say "sounds like a good sports game but I don't have any desire to buy it"). Not to mention the grammar style & quality of their writing is better than most published novels even though they churn out reviews and previews every month of the year.

The game probably failed becaus casuals only play games like cod and battlefield.

reviews CAN influence the sales, but it depends. if you have a ton of marketing push behind a game like halo or tlou 2, reviews basically don't matter, but if you are a small studio( specially an indie one) reviews can make or break your game. They are great just for the visibility alone(which again is a lot more important for small indie studios), but god forbid you gain a negative review, even mixed reception can hurt a lot. I'm writing this because I'm not sure whether prey failed because of bad marketing or because of reviews.

@@ericvcod2133 it came out at a bad time (lots of competition), it came out on the wrong gen of consoles, was poorly optimized at launch, the fairly hefty amount marketing did a terrible job explaining why the game was unique and not a bland shooter (not unlike DEATHLOOP, strangely enough- it seems Bethesda can't figure out how to sell Arkane's genius products to us simpleton gamers), there were many complaints from would-be buyers at the time that the enemies looked "generic" and that they would've preferred the Prey 2 bounty hunter thing we were originally going to get when Human Head or whoever TF was still working on the game. Personally, I prefer this, bc I highly doubt the cinematic trailer for the "original" Prey 2 would've been possible on X1 and PS4, bc it looked better than Cyberpunk 2077 and that doesn't run great a year after launch, on the best hardware available in 2021, sooo....

@@trager8933 no it failed because -it uses the name of an already heavily loved shooter called prey and the canceled a very hyped sequel (and the story as to why it was canceled which made it even worse) which was extremely different compared to this so a lot of people (me included) refused to to buy this game -marketing let’s face it was boring or non existent it made it look like a generic action horror game -the whole bethesda copyrighting the word prey which cause many indie devs to change there names of games that had the word prey which had sparked an already big boycott to become even bigger

@@ULTRAOutdoorsman and with a downgraded AI... no wonder the game journos gave it a 10/10

I love this game as well. Seeing the word nostalgia when referring to 4 years ago makes me feel funny.

That shit would’ve been terrifying. I really wish they would’ve implemented it.

This game isnt for everyone. And thats why its so amazing.

OMGOSH I REMEMBER YOU FROM CREATURE HUB

@@aidanhammer6968 I remember when those bitches kicked him out

@@aidanhammer6968 don't remind me... The pain...

brb gonna replay Dark Messiah

@@NoclipDocs Dark Messiah was soooo good. But..BRB... going to replay Arx Fatalis :)

'Never doubt it'

Arkane have a lot of skill and talent but bethesda is a big downside. Not only do we get forced denuvo, but releases are on different platforms for no reason, use different engines constantly. I can only imagine how tedious it was for them to learn unreal engine, id tech 5, and cryengine within the span of only a few years. And worst of all, Raphael has now left Arkane, which is a loss for sure.

@@NoclipDocs Dark Messiah had one of the best and versatile weapons of any videogame, your boot. And Deathloop brought it back!

prey games dont get sequels.

Same, loved it

I’m going through it right now for my first time in 2022 and am pretty f**king awestruck. I wish I had known enough to support this on release, feels like a spiritual successor to a bunch of my favourite games (Bioshock, Half-Life, Fallout, with some DnD sprinkled in)

Push the fat man :v

I know nothing about Prey, I love this anyway.

Preach sister

@@blitzedoblivion4280 *sister, but thanks lol

@@VulpesObscura oh sorry oops

@@blitzedoblivion4280 no worries :)

What did you think of Mooncrash? I liked it a lot but it just leaves me wanting a proper sequel as well.

That would be great and I agree, though I'd imagine even if it were mostly possible, eliminating loading screens between the exterior and interior might not be in the cards. I would also love for Mooncrash to have an endless mode + possibly a more survival based version of the mode on Talos-1 (with all the stuff they weren't able to add, but did add in Mooncrash). The idea of trying to survive for as long as possible in such a well simulated environment with repairable hazards occurring due to enemy sabotage and such seems like it would be the most awesome experience.

Why wasn't the ending perfect? On the contrary, it was perfect, albeit painful and bittersweet. I loved the ending and i enjoy it every time i replay Prey 2017.

It had performance issues on console at launch, which didn't help. I loved it on PC but several console friends returned it. Took a few months to sort out IIRC.

Because it's called Prey like the other game with aliens too

@@luichinplaystation610 That's one of the main reasons i think. You can't just alienate your audience and then expect them to buy stuff from you. At least not everybody is dumb enough to. I'll never forgive Zenimax/Bethesda for ruining Human Head and shelving Prey 2. But out of love for Arkane i bought Prey 2017 and it really blew me away - instant GOTY and more. []-)

@@johannjensson6190 and the plot twist of that Prey 2 that Betheada took it from us

It truly is a masterpiece. I've recently just started replaying it for the 1st time since release. I haven't watched this video yet but am looking forward to it when I have the time later today.

Yeah the mimics were creepier than I thought they would be throughout the game. I pretty much can't play HL Alyx anymore cause the headcrabs have gone from barely noticable in HL2 to terrifying massive jumping spiders that totally convince my brain that they're real.

Yeah, one thing I've seen is some review sites update their review after the releasing studio brings the game into full working order. I don't believe that ever happened with Prey, and likely the damage was already done.

Cyberpunk is a great example (in an infamous, unfortunate kind of way) of how fantastic marketing can completely carry a game. Cyberpunk may be a technical marvel in ways Prey is not, but if you really sit down and think about it, I honestly believe Prey is just the better crafted game, like as objectively as you can rate art, it is better.

@@DaMorg3 IGN updated their review. They gave the game a 4/10 because it was unplayably broken (a save game corruption bug and many crashes), and after the bug was fixed, they updated the review and score to 8/10. I can't find any fault with what IGN did. They can only review the game they are given to review, and the game they were given was unplayable. Considering most of the serious bugs in the game were fixed under a week from launch, it's clear that the game wasn't ready and should not have been shipped or provided to reviewers in the state it was in. It's not like Cyberpunk or No Man's Sky where there were fundamental issues that would take months or years to fix. They had Prey fixed six days later.

Hoo boy, you're in for a treat! I loved Prey, but Mooncrash elevated it to something even more special.

Mooncrash is amazing and mindblowing... a crown to an already amazing game. I hope you will enjoy it.

Time for you to spend days in that gem of a dlc

You will love Mooncrash!

Because of the Documentary I bought mooncrash today!

Awesome to know. I felt like I was in the twilight zone when that mimic turned into the portrait. I could only imagine how creeped out I would have been to see the gold face t-pose haha! “Asserting dominance” lol

Yeah I hope that too, if it Sells good I have the Hope Arkane is maybe going to think of Prey 2

Given how many reviewers and RU-vidrs are praising it, I guess it will. At least more than Prey.

Reviews have been much better so far

Deathloop is having the opposite problem. Journalists attempting to outdo each other giving it 10/10's and players reactions being like "this is a great game, but 10?" is actually hurting it somewhat.

Deathloop is Arkane's worst game, they took everything wrong with DOTO and amplified it. You can't carry consumables, you have to wait for powers to recharge because there is no power consumable. DOTO's only three powers gave you more flexibility because in Deathloop you can only choose two powers every run. The annoying responses whenever you try to pick up something you don't need ("I'm feeling just fine" with a voice that sounds like he's dying.). Melee is almost completely gone, I know this game is a shooter mainly, but it's really disappointing coming from Arkane. Also, the ending is just an insult, left me with a terrible taste, complete waste of time.

How could you possibly know? The video has only been live for 7 minutes.

@@VoodooPanda1 He's a patron and had early access for a few days! www.patreon.com/noclip

@@NoclipDocs O:

yeah woul be fantastic if we can get games like bioshock and prey every 2-3 years or so!

I would love to see the deus ex IP be lent out to Arkane for a game.

@@magfal I love human revolution and mankind divided (even when this last one didn't end very well) eidos montreal did a couple of fantastic games, but I think arkane reach a new level with mooncrash, I'd love to see what could they do with deus ex.

Most of my memories are jump scarying mimics. Such a smart enemy you are always on your toe when playing super engaging. this and bioshock are the best fps/rpgs ever made.

I remember my first trip to the Hardware Labs. I'd cleared, or _thought_ I'd cleared, the entire area and was running around, thinking I'm safe. So I'm reading one of the terminals on the upper level when suddenly the screen scrambles and the whole room just goes dark. Like, full-on horror movie moment. And then I realised there must be a Phantom somewhere nearby, and I just drop to the floor trying to sneak up on it before it sneaks up on me. The work they did on the dynamic lighting really paid off for moments like that.

Yeah, Prey and Shadow of War were the only games I Played during the lockdown Here, it was pure nostalgia

Yeah i was thinking that too, I hope that isn’t set to change with death loop which seems to be setting a slightly different trajectory for the studio along with arkane becoming more of a Bethesda support studio for other games.

Yes! Agree with all of that

@@Geostationary0rbit There are two Arkane studios. Arkane Austin made Prey, but not Deathloop. They probably engage in some level of collaboration, but the teams work on separate projects.

You should watch the God of War documentary (Raising Kratos). Makes you realize there's a very human cost to developing games.

That is probably the biggest improvement in deathloop. I'm only a few hours in, though I'm a bit concerned as up to now I preferred the loop from mooncrash.

The Moon-crash DLC's mechanic is pretty much what set the basis for Death Loop.

FYI any verified accounts leaving positive feedback are actually slyly advertising their own channel.

Thank you for making this! Would it make sense to do one one Team Cherry/Hollow Knight? Maybe after Silksong comes out

History of 90's Rare.

Hopoo Games: Risk of rain 1, Deadbolt and Risk of rain 2 (interview maybe after risk of rain 2 dlc is out?) or DONTNOD Entertainment (interview maybe after life is strange true colors dlc is out?)

I think something with RGG Studio and the Yakuza/Judgement games would be interesting. It's leap in popularity in the West since Yakuza 0, their decision to go turn-based with Like a Dragon, their gonzo-style design mentality, Nagoshi is a colorful character. Could be a lot of material there.

I absolutely loved Bioshock and I grew to love Bioshock 2. Prey is my favorite game since those titles. 2K: In Bioshock 2, we'll let you explore the undersea world *outside* of Rapture! Arkane: Hold my coffee mug.

@@haydn-db8z Arkane was also one of the developers of Bioshock 2 lol

definitely worth it, one of my favorite

@@caster- Just bought it, will try it for sure

And your comment moved me to consider it myself! My first experience with this game wasn't so great due to technical performance (base xbox one) and i stopped after a few minutes, but i guess i should give it another go on pc.

@@granatengeorg That's awesome, the documentary itself and @Caster- comment moved me to also buy the game, I had the same issue with performance, but at the time kinda forgot to game because I was playing something else with friends most of the time, but I'm trying to give another chance to this game, looks fun.

Same here! I love Arkane & Dishonored is one of my favourite franchises, but sadly (for whatever reason) Prey just went under my radar. I will be playing it asap :-)

It's still a hidden gem, but the reputation is already great by now. Many people loving the game or even holding it as one of the best games of all time (which it definitely is).

My only complaint about Mooncrash (and maybe it has changed) is that you can't try to get all 5 out again after you complete the meta-narrative. Obviously you can just leave some KASMA objectives incomplete to stay in that last section, but it's somewhat unintuitive.

Me too - and there were a few other ones I liked very much, but nothing trancended the artform as Prey did.

Yep. It was 2007 when I last played a game that had the same impact on me as Prey, where I just sat around and marveled at the environment.