Necropolis Crafting is much more reliable when using the additional copy corpse, don't skip this! Twitch: / subtractem 2nd YT: / @subtractemgaming1277 Patreon: / subtractem Discord: / discord
PSA: craftofexile will always try to to fill all the corpse slots. There are actually cases where removing corpses can increase your chances due to how weights and mod categories interact.
@@kylebusc3624 I know it didn't because that was the first thing that bothered me right around release of the feature; because not every craft needs the entire graveyard, so that had made it a bit worthless for me. Glad to see the change though!
I want to emphasize that I think there are uses for split copy and corrupted implicits, just that they are more advanced and not just generically safe crafts. Be careful!
@@xferone If you stack 300%+ of fracturing mod (that is possible, but expensive) and -1 explicit then you gonna get an item with 3 explicis and all 3 gonna be fractured as far as I understand
Protip: lower the corpse slider on the website to 30-60, then look at your odds and generate a few items. Tweak from there by adding certain corpses. You should be able to achieve the same result with far fewer corpses. Also, don't sleep on row, column and adjacent buff corpses. These can save you currency, space and time - the only important thing are the end result percentages in the Graveyard, not how many corpses you put down.
good shit man. I agree 100% about the buff corpses. Using those strategically, you can get the same numbers with less corpses. I'm honestly a bit amazed at how many there are and how cheap the gem coffins are. But if people want to trade 40c worth of coffins instead of using them to make near-perfect tier items, that's cool LOL
Also, if you're ok with redoing crafts then you should use all the same type of corpse (undead, construct, etc) and use the corpses that have a chance to not consume that corpse type you can save half of your corpses for like 10c and a few grave spots
Congrats on your success after all the trials lol that's a little too much work for me man, but I definitely appreciate your determination in the journey.
It's actually not that hard if you go for 25 bodies. 16 tier mod, a few more mods of what you want and 1 or 2 scarcer in things you don want and you'll get something worth 5div or more probably
The way the graveyard SHOULD have been implimented. Only 10 plots. Buried corpses effect global loot table. Drop a corpse in the ground for a 300% increase in chance for drops to have a cold modifier. etc etc. Could use all the corpses they already have. Like a targeted magic find mechanic.
They balanced it like this to make sure it doesn't completely destroy the economy. It's a ridiculously broken crafting system, but by making it so annoying to use that 99% of the players don't want to, there won't be a massive flood of perfect items on the market. I actually really enjoy the mapping aspect of this league mechanic, but the crafting portion is probably the least I've wanted to interact with a league mechanic in 5 years.
Dumb question but can you do a /played when you finish a build so I can see the amount of hours spent on that build. So if I follow this build I can kinda check if it is going to take me all league to finish it?
unfortunately that just wouldn't be accurate for me because i often leave the game open overnight. the easiest thing would be just seeing how many hours i streamed since i dont play much offline. i would guess that my current build is around 40-50 hours.
Wait, cold damage? I thought this build was based on fire. Is there something that converts the cold damage to fire? I know the body armor has the "Cold to Fire" gem, but I figured that only affects frostblink.
Because we scale so much increased fire damage all we need is at least 51% of damage being Fire versus Cold to get the 25% more damage from Shaper of Flames.
Just a note here: Corpse level impacts the ilvl of the finished item (and therefore what mods can roll), but it is very easy to 'fix' a low ilvl by adding a bunch of +item level corpses into the craft. So long as you have enough space to add those corpses, it makes little difference whether you're using Lvl 83 or Lvl 68 corpses. The only difference becomes whether or not you have the space for the corrective +level corpses.
Can confirm on it not being 100% i used SpicySushi's guide for a Ele bow and it made 4 bow (unlucky) and only one hit all 6 T1 rolls, two hit proj speed instead of attack speed, and one hit double ele res brick.
@@sujimayne Yeah man, super simple. That was the impression I got when I watched a couple 30 minute videos where they went over spreadsheets and probabilities and shit. Most simple mechanic we have had in years!
I had a craft with 210% chance for an additional copy (I was ok with 2 extras), and got 4 items actually. So, I don't think that 251 and 351 are the requirements.
I have no idea how you all made this much currency so fast. I have seen the div thing once on my maps and even with frogs it didn't drop a single one. Meanwhile essences wont sell in bulk unless you go down to 80-90% value. It is so annoying to just have bad leagues. Blew my last 11 div trying to 6 link a +2 aoe chest that's over 30 tainted fusing. Guess we all have those leagues.
I have the same. i was able to make 5l +1 lvl chest in 11 tries with tainted fusing (nice 50\50 chances). now I tried to do a double corrupt on a good 6l base and 3 out of 4 just disappeared. the feeling that this league just hates me. but I still hope that luck will be on my side
@@furiousfirefly2915 Just spent 16 fusings to 6-link double corrupted coil yesterday, so you are definitely not alone. And it was my 5-th coil to hit something decent on dc, and even this one was +2 duration which is great and +2 minion which is dead, but ok, still usable with duration only. And with eye of malice I just gave up and bought desired implicit (burning damage) after getting a full stash tab of dead ones (these were survived ones with nothing/white socket/bad mod - bricked to rare ones I just destroyed immediately). Though hit 90% res mult twice and sold both for divine, but still this is definitely not the luckiest league for me.
I don't need a tool that tells me the ideal combination of corpses for my desired item, cause I won't ever find all the corpses needed and I won't trade for them for 4 hours either, but I would need a tool that tells me if there is any nice craft I can do with my 500 corpses of if I can sell the 10-20 valuable ones and delete all the others.
@@stu.chainz No, what I want to say is, that it feels absolute pointless to put farming effort into this crafting mechanic, because you only can do nice crafts by buying the corpses you need and that does not feel rewarding.
@@MotU_Shosha You absolutely do not need to just buy all of them. It's actually insane how many corpses drop when you actually farm them correctly and just how many copies and splits you can get to drop.
@@Legionthecomrade It's not just about that copy corpses or other rare ones. I am also missing a ton of +% crit, and +% speed corpses, that I would need to buy, too.
Ngl, I want to like this mechanic so bad, but I'm fully specced into it and self farming them takes forever. It takes so long to even get a chance to make something and then, you need to jump into copious amounts of data to potentially make the item. I think it's in a tough spot. Cause on 1 hand, you absolutely can go through the effort and craft a gg item, but unless you really dive into the pool for it, you're almost certainly gonna poop out some garbage. After my first few crafts I was just sat there thinking - I've wisdom scroll better items lol. And rog definitely gave me better stuff far easier - but perhaps that's an unfair comparison as Rog was reworked quite a few times before he got truly pog. I think the system is great, but just a bit too cumbersome. And GGG's in a tough spot, cause I feel if they tune it too much, all of a sudden everyone's in mirror rares with no effort. It's a good way to get players to understand the deeper mechanics, but even as someone with an understanding of those mechanics - I find the juice isn't often worth the squeeze. Unless I REALLY go out of my way and sink a few dozens divs, I feel I'd rather just buy it straight off the store, or do some fossil,ess or harvest crafting to get what I want. Patch is great though, and I like other parts of league mechanic, so overall, 3.24 is still a win. It's just a bit sad that the big crafting portion that I should love feels so difficult to love. Who knows, maybe I craft 1 great item and I'm all on board again, but even then, I still think it's a bit much.
Congrats on the Craft Sadly this league has already lost me. Like many, MANY crafting focused leagues before it, it fees like too much of a crapshoot to get anything meaningful at the low to midrange of progression, the QoL patch came WAY too late, and the league is obligatory, so mapping felt like pain, especially since the low tier tilesets are also some of my most disliked ones out of the entire Atlas. Hope you're having fun with the rest of the league.
Don't get me wrong i absolutely love the amount of work and dedication you, and other people, put into figuring this system out, but for me complexity of this system kills any desire to engage with it. I just want to blast mobs and get occasional rewards from league stuff. Not to mention i play ssf. Imo when league mechanic turns into Eve Online level of Excel spreadsheet simulator, devs have lost the plot.
Play what you enjoy, absolutely! I'll say this is the most complex mechanic they've had since TOTA or Harvest I think a certain player is loving this mechanic
The game is a excel/spreadsheet type game.How did the devs lose the plot when this is exactly that kind of game and has been for many many years? Just because you do t HAVE to doesnt mean it isnt. Same woth the mechanics. You dont HAVE to interact with it, but its just harvest 2.0....and harvest is FAR from the first spreadsheet league.
Disappointing to see so many people just want the same thing over and over from POE: mindlessly grind maps with as many divine drops as possible. That's it, that's basically what most of the POE crowd wants it seems. Rats pulling the lever for divine drop, and if something slows down the rate at which they can pull the lever then it's bad. That said, I think they needed some kind of middle tier on this crafting because either the item is perfectly setup with all graves used in the correct config or the item is commically shit, like it was deliberately made bad by someone trying to troll you with the worst mods possible.
This game is so successful because it caters to such a broad audience and because of its brilliant economy. As a casual player even as early as in the campaign you can find Divine Orbs which are needed by the players with more time on their hands. In turn you can buy a much needed piece of equipment for your build. Other games: you find two gold pieces. Price for needed equipment: 200.000.000 gold. I do programming for 8+ hours every day and it surely is more complicated than these graveyard shenanigans. When I am done with work, what do you think I‘d prefer? Mindlessly blasting maps or filling out Excel spreadsheets for hours so I can MAYBE craft my one piece of gear? You guessed it. It’s good we are all on board, casuals and gigachads alike. I will sell you my additional craft corpses for 2 div+ after this video so you can craft your super weapon and sell me your crappy outcomes and we both will be happy. 🎉
Folks who are all put-out over this crafting system 100% didn't play Harvest league LOL. At least the graveyard has all the graves already dug for you. All you have to do is fill and click.
this mechanic is just too complex for me and time intensive to get gambling with it. i rather use my currency on some much more deterministic crafts not using graves
I love the depth of poe’s crafting system but necro’s graveyard crafting is absurdly obtuse and cumbersome. Why do the crafting coffins have to be different monster types? Why is the morgue only 64 corpses? It was already necessary to have and use a suite of third-party crafting software to improve your chance of actually achieving to craft the item you wanted. I don’t believe the issue with poe’s crafting has ever been a lack of depth (or impenetrability)? It honestly feels like this league’s crafting system is some sort of in season April fools joke.
Don't get me wrong. I actually quite like this league. But if streamers who get paid for playing 16 hours a day take 3 days to craft a "usable" item with this mechanic, what are us plebs with normal jobs supposed to do with this? Might as well just use Delve crafts. Save yourself a lot of damned time for basically the same thing in 95%+ of cases.
it's actually pretty fun and this is a super fun if complicated crafting option, we can do things that were never possible before and the items are farmable
