Why you should AVOID the Honda Navi & Three Better Options for New Riders 

Note: At 3:37 I got the petcock positions reversed. Thanks to @grover4035 for pointing this out! Manual page 26 to confirm. cdn.powersports.honda.com/documentum/MWOM/ml.remawmom.2022_nva110b_english_owner_s_manual.pdf

Almost all of his arguments against the Navi are also arguments against riding any bike.

My Navi is a daily commuter. 50ish miles per day, rain or shine. It has it's flaws but it does the job. 7k on the odometer so far

No helmet…no jacket. Drive on 25 mph roads from home around town. You don’t get the point, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t one. This is a cycle for people who don’t want a motorcycle.

i was at my Honda dealer yesterday may 3 / 2024. i was there in march also. There were 8 new honda navi bikes , yesterday they were all gone. these bikes are 100% excellent , i live in a heavy traffic city and have 0% problems in traffic. I also go on highways 0% problems . I'm 77 yrs old , been on bikes since i was 15. Never had an accident and I've never gone down. My navi will cruise all day at 45 mph. and I'm not at full throttle. just did a run to Mexico the other day on the highway, 50 mile.r/t from my house. these bikes are excellent. a guy on you tube had 16,000 miles on his navi in less than a year. What ever size bike you ride every rider knows the dangers. I've seen motorcycle accidents in my lifetime. You need to be 110% alert at all times. Safe rides everyone .

It’s a Scooter in Grom cosplay

I get the argument, but the truth is safety on a motorcycle is factually unachievable, if we are being objective, motorcycles are just inherently dangerous, no matter how much gear, or how much "safety" driving. The statistics say motorcycles are unsafe, and if you read the numbers the fastest the motorcycle the more unsafe it is statistically. I think the counter argument is that playing Russian roulette with a realiable handgun does not exactly make a real world impact on your "safety"

This review is flawed. If we go by what is said you may as well obliterate anything on 2 wheels under 200cc. Grom, Navi, Monkey, Supercub, Zuma, Buddy, etc gone, all gone. Basically if it cant do 55 mph up hill it is gone, no place for it. Yet the best selling vehicle in the world is the Super Cub…how can that be? Well, simply put there is a place for all these smaller machines that this reviewer failed to appreciate because speed and power are the main consideration for him…so other considerations are lost to him. However, the fact that these smaller units sell well and manufacturers continue to make them is proof enough this review failed to identify and understand why. I have enjoyed bikes from 50cc to 800cc, I am glad this smaller segment exists.

This video was great timing for me. I'm watching this 7 hours after it was published. I'm in a unique situation: I work in landscaping and we generally don't work on rainy days, my daily driver recently succumbed and I wanted to pick up an affordable commuter. I was eyeing the Honda Navi for a few months, waiting for a good used deal. Finally found one for $2,000 in great condition, I was ready to pull the trigger, but my boss's father told me not to get it. He said it didn't have enough power to be safe on the road, to get out of the way other vehicles in case of emergency, that it would be too small to be seen, and that it would take forever to catch up with traffic. Afterward I looked at the 0-40 mph and it's something like 14 or 15 seconds just to get up to speed! In our state, we need a motorcycle endorsement in order to ride the Navi on public roads, so despite being intimidated by and avoidant of anything with a clutch and manual shifting, I was going to have to learn how to operate a manual bike regardless. I figured I would go for a 250cc motorcycle if I could find one. Well, while I was on lunch break with my boss, I began scrolling FB marketplace, and wouldn't you know it, not even an hour earlier, someone had listed a 92 Honda Nighthawk 750 with newer tires, brakes, oil change, lights, and more, for $1,700. I ended up picking it up and installing a new battery, and it runs like a dream. I haven't ridden it yet, but my boss's father took it for a spin later, and he said it shifts smoothly, brakes very well, runs and handles well. I'm out of my 20s already, I'm not chasing adrenaline and I've lost a lot of my need for speed. I'm just looking to ride to and from work at the speed limit (45mph). The Navi seemed like it would have been great for that at the first glance, and being an automatic, it felt like I could relax with it. On the other hand, the 750 sounds intimidating, it's way heavier and it's a lot of power for a new rider. But I think this is a good thing for me and the pros outweigh the cons. I've moved it around a bit and I already feel a greater sense of responsibility. It doesn't feel like a toy the way the Navi did when I went to see it at a dealer. It demands proper gear, whereas I might have skimped out had I purchased the Navi. It feels like a proper vehicle that must be handled with awareness and some respect. I suspect that I'll be more likely to stay present and tuned in while riding it because of this. I also feel that it'll be leave me more confident while I'm riding. The larger wheels will help over bumps and cracks, the heavier weight will help me stay upright during windier days, and I won't feel nervous sitting in front of traffic at a red light. I'm already growing more confident with the concept of shifting and I'm sure the MSF course and some weeks of experience riding around the neighborhood and parking lots at low speeds will prepare me for my daily commute. I still don't plan on going much faster than I would have on the Navi, but it'll take me a fraction of the time to get to that speed, and I know I won't be as much of an obstacle to avoid. Tonight I was second guessing, wondering if I should have gotten the Navi anyway, and then I watched this video. All this to say, very grateful, this has reassured me that I made the right decision and I'm a little excited to be part of the legitimate motorcycle club.

Dude this bike is awesome 😎😎😎 i love this machine this video is totally off

I get the points but I think looking at this from a motorcyclist standpoint is only halfway correct. 1800 bucks for an ICE vehicle for transportion is really tourgh to beat, especially with where inflation is on even the cheapest of rust bucket car. Everything about this thing screams scooter to me. I wouldn't buy this thing thinking fun times, I would think this is for people who don't want to or can't afford to invest in the cost and maintanence of a car but need to get around a bit quicker / more legal than an ebike. I would think of this is just as how I think of a scooter but nicer looking (imo). Most people don't get scooters for fun (I understand there are some communites around them) but they generally get them as a tool to facilitate travel with minimal upfront and ongoing costs. Back right after graduating high school, with work and school in a city this would have been amazing. My montlhy bus pass was $90/mo and I still didn't have the freedom to move around when and where I wanted to on my own schedule and without being cramped with all those other people. My brain didn't even think of a scooter back then but a Navi or a scooter would have been PERFECT! Just my two copper.

I don’t know why I’m watching this, I already own the Navi, I ride to work everyday and I’m already about to put a new clutch, exhaust and weights in. I only need to go 50-55 comfortably, the speed limit here is 50 so people just go around me if they want to speed. I paid around 2200 after taxes and registration/insurance and then 500 on protective gear and another 900 on mods so I can totally agree this bike isn’t for everyone but she’s mine, she’s paid off and she gets me to my paycheck.

Needed a second vehicle to ride to work so my wife could have the car to pick up the kids from school. The navi is perfect. I had a klr 650 back in the day and I had a Softail for a few years so not it's not my first bike. I like it it does everything I need it do.

Glad I found this as I'm currently in the market for either a Navi or a Ruckus, since they will be ridden locally around Europe. Great information!

as a college student, yes it is incredibly efficient for me. Parking at my university is ridiculous and I have been driving it for two years to my classes rain or shine and just lock it up to bike rack. Its perfect for intercity riding. Rarely do I need to even go its top speed.

One of my team members commutes on a Navi and he loves it. He's not a young novice rider and he's "too big" for it at well over 6ft tall. It has all the weaknesses and none of the advantages compared to pretty much anything else and still... he just loves the experience. Sometimes fun isn't logical.

I'm surprised it had drum brakes on the front. I would think anything above 50cc's would do best to have disc brakes.

The worldwide sales success would be making your review look bad. You just have to understand what purpose it was created for.

I love my Navi!!! It’s exactly what I need it to be and very easy to work on / mod. Your points are definitely valid as well… Just gotta know what you are investing in.

Sounds like a dangerous bike on streets with a 45 limit. I better get an r1.

How do you feel about the grom?

THATS WHY ITS CALLED 1ST TIMER BIKERS(BEGINNERS)

look into campuses where a lot of students esp. on the west coast use scooters. uc berkeley, standord, ucla - many students use scooters within 3 miles of campus, no more than 40mph.

I just bought one of these for myself. There are definitely some things that a new rider may not be prepared for either, if they buy this and think it's an easy machine to ride. It technically is. But if you've never ridden a motorcycle before, and it's been years since you rode a bicycle, you have to be really careful. Especially because, while this is a slow bike at speed, it's shockingly punchy from 0-30. It's a small bike that is pretty unforgiving in terms of if your balance is spotty. Add that and poor throttle control together, and you really can lose control of the bike pretty easily.

It's a fun lil thing but if you "need" a real bike it's not for you!

I bought it because i wanted a mini twist and go...i agree its more of a scooter. Its great for what it is! I have a full size fast motorcycle. Its not your primary source of motorcycling. It is lots of fun!

It's perfect for around the town use. Swap the tires out for decent ones (as you should any new bike) and its good to go. Some basic modifications will get it to 60mph. To each their own, though.

I had a Victory Jackpot and it was a great bike. I bought a Navi to put behind my motorhome. I love it and it's a fun little bike to fill a void. There are hundreds of Mini moto fans that love this bike. You have to be an informed buyer and know what you are getting.

Cyclist ride on 55mph roads every day and only pedaling between 10mph to 25mph.

I think they should have made it with a wet clutch , chain drive , 5 gears , like the ct 110 was in the 1980’s.

Tell me he did not just recommend a Royal Enfield against a Honda

Sounds like someone bought a Navi and is disappointed. Honda brought these into usa as entry level.

So most city traffic is limited to 40mph and under in Canada and I think most US cities are as well so the Navi , can get to 40 reasonably quickly and so warned the first 20 feet will put you in harm's way in with cross traffic runners , so look first ! I always pretend that traffic around me is trying to get me or is absolutely blind riding any of my motorcycles , the bright yellow GL1800 is as eye catching as a yellow bus , I installed a hight watt LED headlight on the Navi , so I now look more like an aircraft landing And Navi go-fast parts are so cheap some are almost free mods . So in conclusion if you need more bike or speed for cheap thats the Honda XR150L and in development on Big bore kits are close to a release date . Giving this close to 20 wheel horse power . Possibly 90 mph. for only but the very brave I believe and short periods of time at that . Signed. Wile E Coyote rocket specialists . Lol .

Okay honestly I want to get a Honda cl500 and a car later this year I’ve never ridden a motorcycle but I think this would be good to have I can pay it off faster and get my car no problem what are your thoughts

I love my little Navi... take it to work when it isnt raining. And its fun. And its a scooter 100

I’m confused, what this video for?

i already have the gear because i ride an E-bike, ive been looking at the navi to kinda get into riding a "motorcycle". something entry level and fun. its a small bike and something i will need to learn to ride on so i can get used to riding a motorcycle

Great video. I hear a lot of people say buy the grom instead of the navi and I completely agree well I recommend get the 5 speed grom. I thought about buying this bike a lot. I'm so glad I didn't. You better off buying ebike or grom or a even 125cc and up fuel injected scooter.

If I didn't need a motorcycle license to ride this I would sooo buy one. I daily a Ebike.

I bought one to ride to work to save miles on my Street Bob. Just out of warranty at around 4800 miles, something hit the spark plug inside the motor. Have no idea because I consider it a through away bike at this point. Not in the mood to rebuild a 110. My 87 VT700c still runs, but a brand-new bike is trash. Disappointed in Honda with this bike.

Valid points . I’ve had my Navi as my only vehicle for almost a year now and I’m 52 with years of experience riding . It’s serving its purpose but lacks everywhere lol . I’d prefer the Adv 160 in hindsight Also the stock tires are death rubber in the rain … I still haven’t swapped mine as of yet.

So the ruckus is just as bad unless you ride on side of road with some flashers or something idk , Think what he's saying is get like a dual sport 200cc or more like a dr200 or tw200 atleast do 50 55

Get a cruiser for $2-$3k or a duke 200 or ninja 250 instead. Save some more money and just go get a used full size 400-600.

I just want you to know there are riders out there who want to make it home to their wife and children and are paying attention. Safety is first, if my town wasn’t such a low speed town I wouldn’t have bought this bike.

These things were released way back in 2016 in India and discontinued in 2020. They couldn't compete with the existing scooters, even those sold by Honda themselves. Anyone who wanted the convenience and utility of a scooter went for the traditional ones. And the rest bought bikes. It existed in an enthusiast grey zone of quirky two wheeler and was eventually discontinued.

Brother man, it sure seems like you dispise this vehicle based on hypotheticals. I went to college in the midwest. I bought 2 bikes in college before I bought a car and rode the majority of the year. I will say the Navi might not be a great choice for America, but I rode one in Guatemala and it was an awesome choice there.

best city or town commuter ive found cheap on gas easy to ride shifting on a bike gets old in town and brakes are great for what how its powered

My main objections with my honda navi is most major roads connecting cities around me are 55+ miles its dangerous cause im forced to go around or take the bike lane to be safer its no bad just american streets are too fast

I been daily driving a honda ruckus for 8 months 2000 miles on it I only use it primarily in city and don't ever really feel underpowered unless it's a big hill, but ruckus is only 49 cc so for me a 110cc navi would be better by far, I plan on getting a navi for my mom and daughter for city, iam getting a adv 160 and eventually suzuki dr650

kinda of a scooter vibe but hey if you just want to put around town i think just my opinion i would go another direction something little bigger

I went from wanting a Navi, to a Grom, to buying a Ninja 400 and Im glad i did 😂

10:20 you should change your perspectives...everyone has an ideal of what a "real bike" is . but going 35+mph without gear is reckless...

did you sale it ill buy it lol use it on our group rides lol

im just going to use it for a pit bike at the race track

Me parece mas una moto para el trabajo.. dado su bajo mantenimiento y consumo 80km/l. Creo que estarias pidiento demasiado por $1800, comparado por ejemplo con esa bicicleta electrica de $ 1300 que tiene una vida util mucho menor a una motocicleta, creo que es mejor.. saludos!

no! this bike is aimed for short commutes, and as a 2nd, 3rd etc. bike to keep around for short fun rides

If you take all the plastic off, you will see it is actually an underbone scooter that identifies as a motorcycle.

If they sell at the price they sold in india, everyone would have a navi.

It's not sold in europe where there's plenty of market for scooters and groms. I suspect it has to do with its safety, perhaps the weak brakes, and I wouldn't advise anyone to buy it. But I disagree with your logic around gear, traffic safety and the use for underpowered machines. I've never heard such a roundabout way to justify a bigger motorcycle by pinpointing exactly what is most dangerous about them. Lack of gear, overconfidence, overspeed, american SUV and truck riddled streets, lack of practice and poor car drivers. You just convinced people to buy a car. And I wouldn't end with "buy a 350". Whoever is considering this gizmo is likely divided between a scooter, a chinese grom, and this thing. At least send them on a 125 ffs

I hope you sell it soon so you won’t be angry anymore

My 300L is the easiest bike to ride and one of the best for beginners. 🏍️💨 I’ve gotten hurt more on my 110f pit bike. 😆

I have10k miles on my navi.... nothing but smiles.

Just say it's not for you. I ride but my wife doesnt. This is an approachable mini moto for her where I can walk her through the basics of learning how to ride without being on a moped. It also doesn't put her in a situation where she feels pressured around other people like in a msf course. It'll give her something to putt around on with me and once she's ready, I can pur her on my Grom. Side note, all mopeds should be treated the same way as motorcycles, this included. There are mopeds that run a 650cc motor that could easily get you killed by other drivers. I get what you're saying but just because it's not for you doesn't mean it's not for everyone else. You said it youreslf, it's a quality product. Treating this thing without proper respect is the rider's mentality, not the manufacturer's responsibility. Also, e-bikes have their own set of problems. Comparing the two when the markets aren't the same just doesn't make sense. I'm not saying you are wrong because from where you are in life, it totally makes sense. I'm simply saying this wasn't made for someone like you and that's okay. I appreciate your thoughts and I really do think you've done a good job of highlighting some of the shortfalls. Ride on and atay safe my friend.

Don't they come in shoe sizes, buy one for each foot? 😁😁

The brakes scare and if you need to spend $2K on it to turn it into a good bike-why bother? Get a Pappio, Grom, Monkey, Royal Enfield. I was just at a Honda dealership and I can't even fit on the Giorno scooter-my legs are too high and long restricting the turning radius. I'm soured on e-bikes-had 2 bad ones in last 2 yrs. I did have a great motorino e-scooter.

In California you cannot buy one for less then 2500 with 5k miles

You got the petcock positions exactly wrong.

Its not Bike at all .. Look up Honda Activa scooter .Which they change body panel so it look like Bike ..

I really hate to give bad remarks on peoples videos but I mean all your arguments are really dull points. They are basically arguments against riding motorcycles. This is the perfect machine for around the city and it's not my first motorcycle I actually scaled down from a 600cc. I highly recommend this for people to get started and whet their pallet. It teaches fundamentals and I can really see people choosing a larger scooter later on rather than a motorcycle having fallen in love with a twist and go. Whatever gets more people on 2 wheels and making the industry cater to new riders is a win.

This is basically the cheapest new bike. So low expectations is expected. Also your first bike is not your last.

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Mistaken objective of the bike by ADV Mike. Serves intended purpose excellent, especially at the price.

I’m sorry but all your arguments about helmet hair, cold weather, rain, people not being attentive to you. Those are all arguments you can use against real motorcycles. Your argument points are so flawed.

These bikes are not $1,800.00 the dealers will screw you royally . my 2022 o.t.d. $3,200.00

What a terrible bike...absolutely right...terrible investment.... @advmike I will take your Navi for 500 bucks...cash in hand! I don't want you to be so unsafe out there my friend!

This is a bike for people who live in cities.

Absolute rubbish, it is a cheap, very easy to ride motorcycle, ideal for suburb living and commuting. .

Is made for 3rd world countries to move around town not for the North America highways.

Sounds like you didn’t know what you was buying maybe you should’ve done some research

Hey buddy.. this is NOT a motorcycle... Its a moped

You sound like a yamaha guy. 😊

90% of your cons for the bike are cons for any bike.

I don't understand these motorcycle riders man... at this point save the long video and just say buy a car. We don't have money to spend on a Royal Enfield.

this is exactly how i feel about the Navi. its a scooter that trying to look like motocycle but lacks the greatest advantages of both. the brakes are unacceptable, its slow, carburetors are lame, and its expensive to operate. if it were 50cc i would be 100% on board. anyone can be better served by either a Ruckus or another 125cc honda/kawasaki mini moto.

I dont car3

Gear is a dead issue. Nomatter what u ride u will be buying gear. And helmet... na not needed. If you hit a car or a car hits u... u probably dead

He's comparing the 110cc Navi to 350 cc Motorcycles, Dude doesn't know about demographics.

Eh, motorcycles are a bad idea.. if you really want to ride, get a used bike, take a class.

Its a scooter

This is not for rich people like you bro , just relax

A 200 dollar helmet will get u paralyzed.. u better spend a 1000

your most con are bike con

It’s the worst of both worlds lmao slow like a scooter, zero storage like a sports bike….

This video is sooo american

This is not for the person that has bigger bikes this is for there kids 🫡

people here trying to defend the navi because its by Honda when in reality its a piece of 💩 and nowhere near worth the out the door price for a 110cc! the navi is the worst two wheeled scooter honda has put out to date! i wouldnt even buy one used because the navi is trash! just goes to show you that honda can put a trash product like the navi on the market, slap a honda badge on it knowing all the brand loyal junkies are going to buy it because they need that honda high, and after that honda high wears off they come back to reality and realize what the hell was i thinking and in the blink of an eye its up for sale barely broken in! when you buy a bike brand new and sell it pretty much brand new!! thats called buyers remorse because you just want it gone!!!