Why you SHOULD NOT buy an Orange County Chopper 

Big wheels made all us kids love choppers 🤟🏻🇺🇸😜

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Ha nerd I was 2 when I broke my dads toe with a wrench from O.C.C

Such a relevant comment - for 90% of guys. Maybe when I've earnt enough I could own one. I seem to remember being super uncomfortable/awkward riding that particular chopper tho, so maybe I'm biased to not owning one. Edit - maybe he should've never met his hero (or ridden it).

- I want a CLEAN bike. - OK, lets remove everything that make it usable and add some spikes.

Made for a Parade.

Jesse James, for as demonized as he became, was the first to say it. When they did the "biker buildoff" with OCC (Father vs. Jr. Vs. Jesse James), Jesse said at the end that at least his bikes could be ridden.

@@maxxxmodelz4061 Thanks. I knew some other bike builder had said that in another show but I couldn't recall which one. And if I remember well he participated twice and on his second run he said that this time he was not facing clowns.

@@christianbarnay2499 Yeah, he literally disliked OCC it seemed. I remember how he was making fun of Jr. for making a "rivet" bike. Jesse said, "I remember my first time making a rivet bike". LOL. Which was true, Jesse did make a bike like that, except he did all the rivets by hand, not a machine.

they totally were

Exactly you don't buy Jimmy Choo shoes and then wonder why your 100m runs are slower and your 10k runs are impossible.

​@@cafe405Well i can walk on Jimmy Choo's and be fine not a sprint of course. But if i buy a 80K chopper (i can get a Ducati for that) it better be super comfy while riding it.

Yet idiots still bought them

@@deeznutz8320you can get almost 3 ducatis for that

This is probably the best and smartest comment yet. 😆 you nailed it

@@mooselightning8391 Thanks. Not the most popular opinion , but I stand strongly behind it. There are a few of us that wouldn't be caught dead looking at an OCC bike, nor less owning one.

You ruined it by responding .

@@recklessgenesis3476 this makes absolutely zero sense

Me too😀 I actually talked my aunt's partner out of buying one, he had done a charity ride on route 66 on a chopper and wanted one to bring back to the UK, I said for the money your going to spend he could probably buy two decent Japanese sports bikes he could actually ride and hold their value, and both Paul teutels are so far up their own arse's they can lick their own tonsils 😀 thankfully he listened and got himself a Rick Fairless chopper and a Yamaha R1

Clever user name

They're built for show. Not for safety, performance, or comfort

While I always knew that these shows were looks first, everything else second (because lets face it, all choppers and hot rods are inherently compromised for actual transportation purposes, that's just not their thing*, and basically all cars made before the 90s, and a lot even back then, are horrific for safety by today's standards, with no way to fix them), there was one specific moment that I remember, that hammered it home harder and made it impossible to ignore: I was watching Fast & Loud, and they went to put in a larger engine in a car. All good, until they notice that the oil pan interfered with the cross member at the front. I've read about such issues before in magazines, where people had actually put time and effort into their build, and often they'd either figure out ways to move the engine around, or make a custom oil pan to alleviate the problem. One guy converted the engine to use a dry-sump system. What did the Gas Monkey Garage guys do? They cut out portion off the cross member, so that the engine fit. Just cut it out. From the part that literally keeps the left and right side of the car together. I don't think they even added anything to maintain structural integrity. So uh yeah, dangerous, to the max. *If they were actually good, manufacturers would still make them like that.

Terrible bike, terrible wife.

@@dougbeard7624 ride wife, life good

@@melindakeszthelyi9534 auditioning?

Wow what a disgusting woman.

The wife was also from OCC?😊

They did make some parts custom. Although they bought frames, they bought fuel tanks and many other parts.

Build the same bikes.........I saw that after sea. 1 ep. 4...........different decorations

Exactly

cake decorators

"...we've hit a major snag. I don't know if we'll get this bike done in time...!"

Idk that Rick guy was a good fabricater

@@4G63Tpower I forgot about Rick. He was a good dude and a talented fabricator.

@@tmartin3151 Then he went away in the name of drama

Your dad was totally right. I don't want to know how a OCC Chopper behaves in a curve. I allways had to lough, when the old man was sitting on the bike during the test ride and taking about comfort, while jumping up and down on the seat. These bikes are show bikes, nothing else. Good looking, nice ideas, but nothing to ride with.

Indian Larry was cool but I just watched a Biker Build Off he was in on and I didn’t see him doing any kind of fabricating that was blowing my mind. He mostly bought parts out of a catalog and put a cool paint job on it.

Designed it for years.?? Just a bog standard chopper, could build it a a couple of weekends..lol seen better BSA / Bonnie's in the 70s....!

Calmly explains it's a hardtail and basically a death trap

It was an 8 year old's dream lol

The original owner sold it because his entire spine was pressed into a singularity by the hardtail

Why I'm going soft tail for my custom project. And also trying to keep the costs reasonable.

That big fancy building is empty now.

Paul SR took the company to Florida

@@matthewcaughey8898 Orange County?

Visibly poor build quality even defeats their purpose as decorative sculptures. I guess it’s a good thing that they had their heyday in the standard definition TV era.

Haha, and started for just long enough to rev the engine to rev limiter a couple times for the crowd :)

@@volvo09 rev limiter set @2800 as to not break welds,,

Agreed.

I never understood why a company should buy and expensive bike to put on display. Thinking about it it is way of pure promotion and the bikes are just not roadworthy. A single owner will use it at some point but not a large organisation.

Imagine that, they want someone on screen who'll be compelling.

@@RaptorJesus You could also say they went with a lesser candidate because they could push some blah blah agenda with their backstory, which is secondary to the whole point of the show, but who's splitting hairs.

Or "I was born at a very young age" (que the crying)

Ya for real I think they look cool but they don’t compare to other people in the bike community

I realized they were a joke when Jesse's show was on during the same era. What sealed the deal for me is Paul Jr is doing a build and he goes and cries,I shit you not: we don't have a tank on the shelf this is going to hold us up getting one. Meanwhile the week before I'm watching Jesse pound one out from a flat piece of sheet metal because he wanted a particular shape. Now, what he did to my girl Sandra was wrong and he's a dickhead scumbag for that ,but the man does have fab skills. He's a little bit like the Axl Rose of fabbing bikes. He's a dick, but he can get away with it because he's pretty good.

Cake decorators or not, they put out a few bikes that were impressive. The POW/MIA bike comes to mind....

And they didn't do all the decoration, Nub painted for them. Dude is the real artist.

Totally agree 💯!!

@Boe Jiden 😄

Because there con artist

Because people with too much money are trying to buy a lifestyle image of someone that wasn't real to begin with.

@Boe Jiden because I voted for him but didn't need to go to his rally's like the Trump people. Was he every really under audit? He cheated on every wife and played more golf than attending church to give thanks to the almighty.

Plus a lot of the builds were promotional company bikes and companies were blowing money out their asses left and right to be marketed on the show.

Agree the fat tire Harley thing went away around 15 yrs ago and HD is on its way out.

so true

The Show was a Wank ,,, Watch one seen them all Australia

Aye! They're showpieces really if anything at all.

Datsun🐱👍🏿

What kinda Datsun did you buy?

@@DrMcMoist210

@@bgjb-r1499 Not bad at all.

@@DrMcMoist mine was an old 72' datsun1200

Who cares?

@@HF1.0 You're the only one who cares. Thank you!😮‍💨

​@@HF1.0the person who took the time out of his day to type "Who cares?"

Hope you can make sure the trait does not pass down!

@@ronbelanger4113 Not having kids

Fantasy can beatrap. Orange county had to be more outrageous and quick for the cameras.

Same! I think it was back in 2005 (I think 🤔), working for Ziegler Caterpillar out of Bloomington Minnesota, the chopper visited our location on its promotional tour or whatever it was, and seeing it up close and in person,.. I 100% felt exactly the way you described! Utterly disappointing, completely lackluster excuse for a motorcycle (not to sound harsh)

It happens when drama is prioritized over construction quality._

@@primech-128bit that's a fact

@@HarlanDorman that was about the time frame if I remember correctly too. I worked for Caterpillar in Sanford, N. Carolina

Facts.

Way to regurgitate what Jesse James says. Get original thoughts my man. Be a man.

@@Buyajetfromstevemain you're telling someone to be a man and complaining to a complete stranger on RU-vid. Who needs to be a man again?

It's just a shame that he was a world class prick.

@@Buyajetfromstevemain How can you be more original than the truth?

That's exactly it, everybody knew it was impractical but they were still an inspiration. In some way it was similar to a bob Ross painting, they just had better marketing. Don't get me wrong because I love Bob Ross but his paintings were also not museum quality but still amazing because of the story. Same goes for these bikes, I still have a soft spot for them, but they're not worth the price but I always knew that

How much did you make off the Yamaha when you sold it? Did you ever make a video on it?

Yes , all the fun is in making the baby , not maintaining the baby.

@@parkjustin1797 You knew how to spell all that but you did not know how to spell "you", all those times that you attempted to?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The only bike I saw built on that show that I wanted was the simple orange chopper they built for that kid that worked there for a while. Simple and tasteful, unlike the silly things they built on the show, especially in the later years when they were doing the "tribute" bikes that were always ridiculous.

Sad

underrated savage comment of the week.

You can get a bitchin older FXR or Dyna for 8k. I have a few saved on craigslist and facebook marketplace currently. WAY better bikes than this pile. But yeah, I don't think he bought the bike, pretty sure they made it for him for free/a giveaway/tv show content.

@@JetCityHooligan I've got a clapped out fxr making way more power than this heep. Mine has 127 el bruto though.

Nice bikes around here in the 5s

Yes. Enjoy your Vespa. I hear they are super comfortable on your way to the market. Ya know... where you sell your Man Card.

Cool story. Is that what your boyfriend did?

@@Frieghtliner1975 na dude its because choppers are utter dog shit

@@Frieghtliner1975 Yes, please tell us more about how tough you are, internet tough guy. The story about when you single handedly took down Bin Laden is my favorite.

@@bigguy7353 . Fat guy on a scooter !! You funny.

My Ducati Supersport gorgeous and does everything well.

In 2018, Paul Sr. filed for bankruptcy. Plus, Page Six reports he did so a mere days before the American Chopper reboot aired on TV. There have certainly been ups and downs for the founder of Orange County Choppers, but through it all, the shop manages to stay afloat

@@dopeytripod I mean the only reason they were on the air was for the drama, the personality (an abrasive ass), and just enough mechanical know-how to shit a bike out once a week.

Your mom won’t let you have one. Please stay in your moms basement !!

I know why the guy took a few weeks to accept the $8000 offer. It's the only offer where the prospective buyer didn't come and test drive the bike.

@@dopeytripod More welfare for rich people.

There’s a lotta day left

@@j.wright5918 😂😂😂

Yeah he dont quite have the angry man down

LOL i gotta agree these guys are comedy gold

I did enough shop welding to know these guys were complete hacks and simply makin stuff up. Zero thought to actually engineering or performance

@@michaeltaylors2456 It was always about beauty and it`s not a secret.

@@kaynest9014 Yep, these 'bikes' were always wall hangers.

@@kaynest9014but most of their Bikes are ugly XD

i clicked thinking this was about buying a helicopter.

John Garcia - RU-vid is like a boat builder that drills holes in your hull then when their product becomes a complete piece of shit they offer a premium version by filling up all the holes they just drilled. Typical ass wipes.

If you pay for it you don't get adds. Entitlement isn't an attractive quality.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VPXeeoX2UAM.html

RIGHT??? Holy crap every video I’ve seen this week has had a 2 ad intro.

It seem lately I would love to only get two, I had 8 adds in a 11 min video the other night.

I remember that episode. If the only idea you have is to slap a blower in it to make it faster, you shouldn't be around engines.

I remember "Who rides that long anyway...." on one episode.

You just broke the internet by red pilling them!

I would say a sprung bobber (with grip) seat, brakes then uprate the engine with a tune and mod. And maybe remove the more dangerous spikes.

Lmao I CAN AGEA ON THAT !

Sounds like a guy that can’t ride them all so he settles

Perfectly said

FYI Becker built the bike for the twin peaks tv series . Then he got the Hollywood type builds .

Yeah, ya don't see too many of 'em racing at Laguna Seca or Willow Springs.

At the beginning they did show some of the fab process. But that didn't last long.

@@donellmuniz590 they'll be liable if the rider dies at the corkscrew. Haha

@@BigChuck525 in the end it became about family relationship dramas

They didn’t fab anything, it was fake

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You have to wonder how these people think. Do they even realize that they are making garbage?

@@dangrimes5078 low price parts high mark up

Why T.V. and Real Life never and shouldn't really get on.

Yea.... DUMB. Just like the Teutuls.

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they should install a submarine periscope then..

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I recently got into building bikes, and I remembered this show so I went back to watch it, just to see what I can learn from it. The answer: basically nothing. Shame, it could have been a great series.

their builds were more for show over performance.

I wouldn't worry about the unsprung mass, more the dynamic loading on the wheel rims and hubs, that appear to have their designs framed by tyre size/bearing size and appearance no thought on the stresses not just from riding but braking and road conditions, pot holes etc

Might be an age thing. The original chopper (Captain America from Easy Rider) was an underpowered hard tail with lousy brakes, so that was what people were looking for when they got old enough to be nostalgic and had enough money for custom builds (although it somehow defeats the purpose to pay a lot of money for a supposed symbol of authenticity and a simpler time). The bike in the movie was of course just old and from a time before suspension was really a standard feature. But the attitude persisted for quite some time - I remember that some people actually got angry when HD began mounting their engines on silent blocks, because having some semblance of comfort was apparently treason to the chopper ethos (but then I ride a Honda, so what do I know).

Hard tails react much more predictably in thr corners. Imagine you're coming through a fast corner, leaned over, and you hit a dip. Your suspension compresses, a peg hits the ground and you wreck. That's at least how my friend, who rides a hardtail, describes it.

@@CourageTheCowardlyDog266 Now imagine coming throught a fast corner and hiiting a pothole without suspension. The wheels start bouncing and you go straight in the ditch.

​@@CourageTheCowardlyDog266Your friend would have a valid point if every road were paved glassy smooth like a race track. But ultimately suspension _helps_ with evening out the feedback on the inevitably uneven roads we encounter daily.

@@CourageTheCowardlyDog266 Shoot. Clearly MV, Honda. Ducati had no idea how hard tails were superiosrs. .

They weren’t about performance, even a little. They never made a secret of that even in the show.

They didn't want to spend real money on that bike because they were giving it away to a fan who couldn't afford to buy one.

I wonder how anyone came up with that value?

YEZ ZIR

he said the guy specifically asked for this design

It is a mystery. It does appear to be very cheap and basic. But, that is what they guy asked for? Maybe they gave him a budget for his Dream Bike?

Dream vs reality, sometimes what you want is stupid..... and painful. Looks cool though. I liked most of their bikes, but they mostly looked the same. Spider bike was the best in my opinion.

Heh, he ended up doing exactly that later on, only to end up with something EVEN WORSE. =)

The snap on bike was damn impressive I saw it a couple times

Then everyone clapped

Shift tails hurt my puss hahah hardtails till the end

Love my rigid

Well stated.

Love my ridgid,no spring seat.. but,to each their own

Ahhh...yes. The cheesy little, overly scented soaps. You just took me way back. I can smell them now. I genuinely thank you for this trip back in time. Yeah... Edit- I usually don't like or dislike anyone's comments but I liked yours simply because of the soap thing. Although I do agree with you too.

Well, I have never been a fan of Choppers. I know how much design work is put into the steering of every bike, and the answer always comes out to a head angle of 71 degrees, even one degree either side is frowned upon.

Amen! Well said.

And people wonder why the govt FKS the public on the daily.

True, true!

Their sole purpose was not to "mollify the masses". I would suggest you look up the word "mollify" for reference. The sole purpose of the show was to make money for the producers. The principals of OCC were fabricators who I'm certain enjoyed their work, the fame, and in no small measure: the money. That they made shitty bikes in terms of practicality and quality is without question; mostly hardtails with little engineering involved. They had the opportunity to create much more sophisticated and higher quality bikes, but they chose not to, and that is a shame.

So basically what you are saying is that just because they penned a contract that all their bike engineering expertise went straight out of the window? Oh.......OK m8 whatever you say. Owned a OC chopper have you? Bought one have you?

you do understand that at bike shows we arent just looking at paint & chrome right? this thing is a jake & made on a minimal budget & barely looks better than that horrible "factory chop" honda sold years ago..

Yeah i build a wardrobe from ikea im a builder too. Technically speaking probably slightly more advanced for being able to put that flimsy warddrobe together. Quality of the products is very compareable tho.

Agreed 100%.

Choppers don't have to be garbage. Kill switches solve the snapped cable problem. You built junk and got junk results.

@@Comm0ut I bought it used and still miss that bike so much. I like my new but I can’t have them all. This was my first harley coming from the metric world. Never needed to check welds and stuff before. I learned rapidly.

My idea of fun is galaxy apart. I mean chicks are fun.

@@jjohnson8977 until they take half your stuff. 😂

@@badkatrising3918 dic em and run

I was trying to remember where that was from. Thanks for jogging my memory!

You are a shame to your name. I would explain why a chopper is cool, even if certain states outlaw them... but, you just wouldn't get it. No one expected that much from you.

​@@Frieghtliner1975 No, choppers are fcking stupid. If you want to have fun on the road, then get a sportsbike. A Kawasaki Ninja does what a chopper does x3 with better mileage, 2x speed, better look and 1/10 the sound. Anyone who thinks riding a stupid looking, slow noisemachine with a door-handle moustache and a potbelly is a certified idiot.

@@ParleLeVu Yes, crotch rockets are superior...in the amount of riders they kill. But seriously that is an apples/oranges comparison.

Image ,,, our number one goal in life

I just saw a bike Lime green, (nice paint!) in beautiful font. " ALL EYES ON ME" We broke out laughing

What about tire wear from improper air pressures? Wouldn't that cause unwanted wear? Or you could just Buy a bike with Rear Shocks like anyone who wants a comfortable ride. I never gave a shit about how good a bike looks it is and always will be about my comfort. can a human ride the Bike for 10 hours and still walk afterwards. If not it's worthless for anything Other than catching some Idiots eye.

@@lucienfury2606 whatever floats your boat, dude.

@@lucienfury2606 i dont think the person who buys a chopper gives two shits about a poorly worn tire.

@@lucienfury2606 So your solution to "tire wear" is to buy another whole bike?

@@lucienfury2606 Wear is not an IRL issue. The best thing to do for those interested in choppers is ignore everything after the classic era which ended in the 1970s. Long bikes can be quite comfy done right (sprung seats worked fine when most US roads were dirt, that rigid seat in the featured bike is retarded on a good day) but that one was not.