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Hi, Stephanie love you story telling , if you hv time can you dig news about phoebe huang Taiwan public figure she is comedian n presenter Phoebe Huang married with Christopher downs ( he is Canadian ) but now divorce , the bizarre thing is this poor Chris so many years can’t see his daughter until now because phoebe kidnap her daughter and fly to Taiwan , He talk out loud a lot in his media social about can’t see his own daughter for so many years .I’m not sure what is true story behind this. I hope you can dig this story . Thank you.
My dad was also a serial cheater, and my mom still talks about it after ten years. This man probably traumatised his wife for life. She has every right to talk about that as much as she wants to.
Agree, she had been enduring those things for years without telling families and friends, until this time, she needs to let it out for her mental health as well…. She swallowed too many things… My mom too. She is still very excited and angry when she talks about those things…. I wouldn’t say it doesn’t have negative impact on children... But mother is also a girl who grows to become a woman and a mother… I can understand the sadness and anger she has… For Wong, he didn’t even dare to deny the cheating part since the beginning….all their arguments are more leaning towards bring Jing down…
She's been through this for YEAAAARS and complained for 3 days and now people say it's a character flaw but he cheats, emotionally abused his family for years but is deemed as a mistake. Smh. He bowed for the public but never for his wife. Narcissists are so lucky!
True.. like it's her husband who made the it public by posting on the internet about the divorce. What people think the wife felt, it's like opening the gates of hell. She will tell EVERYTHING that she kept on herself for the past years. Especially she has no connection in that industry to back her up. How sickening these netizens to think that she's just being dramatic.
So he groomed her, cheated on her, was emotionally absent during their marriage and child birth but she is the one who has a bad character for speaking up couple of times. Got it.
I read the public annoucement of Leehom. He uploaded a photo of his emails; as the evidence that both of them did not contact each other for 10 yrs during her minor of 16 yrs old.
In my opinion, constantly cheating on your wife is considered a character flaw and not just an action. Him constantly cheating shows the types of values he has, which shows his character.
Exactly. Idk how people always justify this kind of behaviour as being "not perfect" and "human". All of us are not perfect but we don't go around cheating and emotionally abusing our partners. He's a grown adult. I think shame needs to be brought back where and when it's due.
Just so you know if men had the option to cheat they would cuz think about it men has the ability to impregnate multiple women at once while women have to get pregnant for 9 months it’s unfortunate but men are biologically wired to search for more women so they can have more babies to sustain earth (humanistic procreation standpoint)
😂😂😂 this is crazy! He cheats, and it's a "mistake." She goes off online, and she has a bad character. I hope she finds peace in herself. I can't imagine having the internet tell you your suffering wasn't real.
In other Taiwanese news, some of the people who knows Li Jing Lai claims that she’s dishonest and that she makes false accusations. That’s why some people think she’s just doing what she can to “punish him” for leaving her. Basically some people think she’s creating false accusations to destroy him
@@ewno1566 girl, I'm sure they just wanted to relay what they saw so we can get more context on why some netizens were doubting her story. They never said they believed it lol
@@jeelk8089 I personally think the statement " women are their own worst enemies" stupid and simply untrue. There're men who acts shitty to other men, but we don't say " men are their own worst enemies". We don't say "children are their own worst enemies" when some children acts shitty to other children. It's just shitty people acting shitty regardless of gender or age.
Went through it for 8 years and the more children you have with that person the more you feel like they are the only ones who are and can be there. Obviously now I know that's not the case, but while you are in that constant case of emotional (& physical in my case as well) abuse, it's like being in a hole that gets deeper & harder to get out of.
Oh Plus, he's a fucking actor. he can act apologetically. he's never going to stop behind he scene if he was able to cover his infidelity for years and years.
Just so you know if men had the option to cheat they would cuz think about it men has the ability to impregnate multiple women at once while women have to get pregnant for 9 months it’s unfortunate but men are biologically wired to search for more women
Steph, this is where having the researchers dig deeper will be good. There are past interviews where he showed his distasteful opinion and actions towards jinglei. There are past news/tabloids that match jinglei's expose. He wasn't bitting his tongue for the sake of his kids - he was probably told to shut up by his team. And if you understand mandarin, he was not sincere in his apology! His first line in his second post "左思右想" even became a meme at that time because of how ridiculous it was. Whether or not he deserved to be cancelled is one thing, but your final take just feels off.......
It's been a thought of mine for a while. I don't know what their research consits of, I feel like youtubers say the word and we trust they're truly doing research.
You know that old movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Well, what we're dealing with currently are Narcissistic Maniacs for a United Nutters King-Dumb!
I completely disagree with the sentiments at the end. She's allowed to speak about her trauma and what she went through for as long as she needs, the trauma and pain doesn't go away just because the situation ended. And her having kids does not mean she shouldn't be allowed to clear her name and pour her heart out, this goes back to the thing where people no longer see mothers as people who exist and have things to do outside of being a mother. And a serial cheater is a disgusting level of sh!tty human, imagine having that little care or love for the person you married & had three children with to where you consistently cheat on her. And claiming "oh he stayed quiet for his kids" is laughable, if he cared about his kids he wouldn't have cheated so much and so heinously; let's say they did stay together while he stayed cheating, you think the kids wouldn't eventually find out? and you think they wouldn't resent him for that? I think the fact that she got custody while he got visitation is also very telling. And regarding evidence it literally could be that her evidence wasn't admissible in court depending on the ways she got it, or his lawyers could've twisted it.. the U.S court system has a history of favoring the fathers if they show up and "fight" for their kids since they rarely see that.
I just thought of this, maybe she was told to not hand in evidence and he would agree to settle things quickly the way she wants? This way his public image is reversible lol
She might not have had evidence that was admissible in court. That does not mean that she didn’t have some kind of proof at all. If his lawyer was skeevy enough, they could have had anything ruled as inadmissible. Money buys stuff like that. Not to mention, having text message proof, recording, videos, etc, would be hard to find admissible given most of the time it’s a breech of privacy to get that information. It doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. They just couldn’t show it in court in that case. That’s just a theory though. I know nothing of the actual proceedings.
I totally agree. Just found out that Johnny Depp’s defamation case was like that as well. As much as I dislike Amber Heard, there was evidence that wasn’t brought into light because Johnny’s legal team made sure it wasn’t admissible in court.
She’s obviously have been under so much duress due to her “husband”, baby daddy’s infidelities, being pregnant for 4 years straight and having zero support from her so called husband or his family. People criticizing her parenting should understand that she has reached a breaking point
Honestly, am a bit disappointed in Stephanie’s take on summing up the wife’s behavior. Bad parenting? Where’s the scrutiny for the father who abandoned the wife and kids?! Wife is a no celebrity and the way she’s being attacked by the media for wanting to be heard on a podcast after putting up with her abusive husband and family for years. She obviously wanted the marriage to work and TOO BUSY REARING 3 kids without support. Was she supposed to keep screen grabs of harassing texts she’s received or her husbands blatant extra marital affairs? I see her as baring coping with 3 pregnancies & child rearing w/o support as reason enough to lose it.
@@seahorse3267I would say she's a good parent, from what I see and know on social media she spends a lot of time with her children. She rarely posts about her children, presumably to give them privacy.
I came here to try to offer this POV too, just based on watching my own mother - who is a lot like the woman in this vid - I think it's important to realize the power difference Wang had - he groomed her when she was a kid, he was very rich and famous. Maybe their abuse pattern ended up triggering her in this way. IDK. He did call her crazy a lot and obviously her mental health was fucked.
Nope. She cannot even prove in court that he was cheating. It's just like you guys forget that case like Johnny Depp and Amber Heard exists. He is innocent until proven guilty. And she proved nothing.
wth, he never "kneel" nor "bow" to the audience nor his wife. He only wrote a grudging unsincere apology post online. What garbage has stephanie been sprouting?
the ending was very disappointing ngl. You cant spend an hour talking about the hell he put her through and then dismiss it all cause she doesn't know how to handel her image basically. he s a rich well-liked celebrity with probably one of the best PR teams in the world, ofcourse he's gonna "look better " in the public eye vs his ex wife who has been emotionally and mentally abused and has no experience with dealing with her public image.it's just really disappointing that women have to endure all of this and still have to present themselves in a certain light in order to be believed and taken seriously.
but she did not have evidence in the end...... just because shes a plausible victim does not mean she should be believed as though her word is gospel. you heard her suffering but was it real? where is the proof? what about the accused? this is not about who has better image this is about evidence
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle A lot of times in US court systems, "unfairly obtained evidence" is not admissible in court. For example in some states you cannot secretly record someone, so even if you have a video of somebody admitting they committed a murder, it is NOT admissible as evidence in court, and therefore it would seem you have 'no evidence'. It doesn't mean she doesn't have proof of infidelity, she obviously posted line items showing it, it just might mean the US system cannot validate them in a court case.
I was in this situation and the best advice I can ever give you is do not ever ignore a single red flag. Don't think that they're going to get better. It will only ever get worse.
@@shinyamada488no its not, stop spreading harmful misinfo. Horrible people come in all shapes and sizes, and his behaviour is because he doesnt respect his wife as a person because shes obviously just a tool and item of status to him. Hes a pos.
it’s cruel how people wanted her to just move on. she experienced years of abuse, you doesn’t just snap your fingers and undo all that damage with financial compensation.
Exactly, if she wants to, then let her talk. All those years of abuse and being cheated on, she is finally able to speak out AND people want her to shut up? Let this woman expose the man and speak up. She's been holding back for so long. It's time for her to release everything out so that she can feel at ease. The guy is able to be free and do his own thing while she had to endure it all.
I can see myself doing EXACT same thing. In fact, I did. "And another thing..." Push the right button and I'd keep going all day, all night all year. Team wifey.
Stephanie overlooked the fact that Wang has been paying money to companies to manipulate public reviews, also later his wife’s attorney posted to respond about what happened in NY court…. I definitely feel bad for the wife, a woman without money, career and resources, it’s an unfair fight, she had to use kids as her weapon. I am disappointed about Stephanie’s take on this
Something doesn’t feel right about the way stephanie framed the story at the end :( He abused her for years, groomed her from a young age.. and he cheated?? I dont think it should be framed that he just made a little mistake and making it out that she is in the wrong and had bad character traits for ranting about it.
same, a bit disappointing especially as a woman. At the same time, The guy was now back on stage and in the spotlight while the woman still has THAT trauma.
Right! At first, after watching the video, I was about to agree with her and kinda felt bad for him but then after reading the comments, I just realized how fucked up this conclusion was and how ashamed I am to have felt sympathy for a cheater
if all of her accusations (the abuse, grooming, and cheating) were true, how did she fail to provide enough proofs in court? idk i have mixed feelings about their case:(
@@allenadelle2500well the US court system is very corrupt. Plus they always give fathers more empathy for just showing up😓 either way- what is apparent is that he is a cheater, manipulator and also an actor. He stayed quiet for a long time and had his pr team answer everything. I would be an emotional mess if I were her.
..So he cheated on her throughout the marriage ...but people are now turning on her because she won't stop talking about it...and that, not the cheating, is a reflection of character? wtf
@@itzaurore3she's probably talking about it because she felt so wronged. Imagine not having a voice. A non-famous person wouldn't put themselves in an uncomfortable spotlight unnecessarily.
@@itzaurore3not all evidence is permissible in court , for example for her to have gotten those text message from Wong and his mistress she would have violated the law by getting it from his phone which is an invasion of privacy, so such evidence cannot be used in court.
Love you Stephanie but I have to agree to disagree with the ending. You cannot tell a victim when they should stop talking especially after years of abuse. And a lot of time evidence is thrown out a lot times in cheating/sa
"He seems so emotional" hes an actor, he acts, he knows how to put on a show. Abuse comes in all forms and it should not be a judge on jings character for speaking on her own trauma. Also what defines what a good parent does? I have seen parents put up with abuse and mistreatment and keep quiet for the sake of their children and those children go and seek similar abusive relationships because they were taught thats normal.
For people with narcisstic tendencies or disorders, there are three stages, it's called the Karpman Drama Triangle. Disclaimer: Can't diagnose, am not labeling. Just think it is worth looking at, because the victim stage and rescuer stage can be very convincing.
@@AgeOfGoldenSilence A serial cheater and a groomer is at far higher risk of having NPD than an abused wife. There is something called reactive abuse and also a defense mechanism many victims get when raised or too close to an NPD abuser, where they have to adopt traits of narcissism to defend themselves, and can be mislabelled as having NPD if they haven't gotten away or gotten help yet.
To be honest, I don't agree with your take in the end, Stephanie. It makes it seem that you were empathetic to this man who put his young wife through so much trauma. Her going on and on about it is probably how she copes with years of neglect and abuse. He also probably has so many connections in the industry and his family's high status role in society, he could easily get favours in court.
I disagree. The ex wife should tell her story. Because no one has heard of what she's really been through for years. There's a lot of women probably who can't talk about what they've been goinh through kn their marriage. I also honestly think men or woman who are psychologically, physically, and emotionally abused should be encouraged to talk about their tuths.
standing a neutral ground ISSS SIDING WITH THE OPPRESSOR.......like yall gotta be insane to assume what a "good mother" should do . Nobody but the trauma survivor gets to decide about how long they need to get over their trauma or how much they want to talk about it . Also considering periodic cheating as " fucking up a lil bit" has to be one of the most insane things I heard in my life.
Your final take made me really sad... It's really hard to prove infidelity in court and the video of him cheating was blurry so that can't be used as evidence. Also, with his kind of money, he could have paid anybody off. I mean look at all of the corrupt politicians that get away with a lot of things in America...
Stephanie I am sorry but I totally disagree with your final take here. The wife was in an emotionally abusive relationship for YEARS (remember he NEVER denied the cheating), he GROOMED her since she was 16, he obviously has an insane influence and power and is filthy rich. In the first place before you even start looking at this scandal, the power dynamic sets the tone already. The woman was and is hurt and it's painfully obvious, cheating for years on his wife (and when she was pregnant!!) Is no "small mistake"!! Cheating is one of the most hurtful things you can ever do to someone :( and by cheating you dont only break the wife's heart but the children's hearts as well.. if he really cared about his children that much would he have really cheated? I am sad to see you fall for his "charm" at the end. I mean sure he is performer he is good at that! he can charm people and yeah maybe he genuinely feels remorse but does that erase what he did?? And yet somehow the cheating and the way he destroyed his family (yes he did because by cheating you cant expect your family to remain happy and peaceful, he was the one who destroyed his family..). And yet a woman who complained for a few weeks is now having a major "personality flaw" just because she...complained? Why cant she? Is there a time limit or a specific way a hurt person should express their feelings?? Why cant she talk about her divorce? If thats her way of having closure, no if thats just her way of expressing all the hurt she felt, why should we tell her not to do it? She is a mother but isnt she a human being too? :') No one can claim she doesnt care about her children, those are baseless accusations with no proof whatsoever, but she is truthfully and genuinely hurt, and I feel like her feelings should be respected more. She is no celebrity, she cant go have a concert and kneel in front of an audience like her ex husband, she doesnt have that privilege, but that doesnt mean her feelings should be overlooked.
Ah yes, someone who cheated throughout the whole relationship is the 'bigger person' while the person who has been abused emotionally for years and is a breeding mule has a bad character. Pft.
1:05:56 unreasonable? As someone with anxiety I can completely see how she feels scared. He is someone that has lots of money, lots of connections, who knows what he is capable of. Also, I'm flabbergasted on steph's take at the end. "If he prolly messed up a little bit". You mean cheating throughout the marriage? That's a little bit?? Damn, poor woman.
Yeah exactly!! And since Stephanie deals with anxiety too (and she also knows the unfortunate feeling of feeling unsafe/threatened in your own home…) it’s such an odd thing to be like “girl your house has security cameras lol” that’s so unfair. He obviously has way more public power/influence than her, I would be terrified too
I don't agree with you at the end.. I don't know why you felt emotional at the guys apology in the concert when he bowed down. It's important to understand that celebrates have a whole of PR team, a team which tells them how to act in public and decides every action which is made public. Even the guy wanted to fight with his wife and defame her in public a professional team of his would advice him not to do it. While the woman is just like us without anyone to guide her or tell her how the PR works. Judging the celebrity based on his PR public apologizes is stupid. Coming to the womans wrong part we don't care.. She was never a celebrity, nor a idol carrying a responsible towards pubic or fans. While the guy is a public figure and has been a top idol holding responsibility towards his actions more accountably.. Now it's upto people whether they want a sex addict and a womaniser to be their idol or not. But is damn stupid to see him as a victim or sympathies... I don't know what made u cry seriously.
I don’t understand how venting about your marriage and exposing your husband is a character flaw but grooming your wife who is 10 years your junior, cheating on her, and putting her though emotional trauma for YEARS isn’t a character flaw. It just seems sexist and like people are trying to blame the wife no matter what 🙁.
He is totally guilty but people would rather except the more palatable (and sexist) idea that he's a hard done husband and father, and she, just a resentful, bitter wife. And all the while ignoring the irrefutable fact that he was in a relationship with a 16 year old who he later impregnated non-stop for YEARS!!
Yeah that part is not getting enough ppl bothered for me. Very predatory and the power dynamic at play here is insane. The fact that ppl are upset she's vocalizing the wrongs done to her rather than the very horrible actions of the supposed husband/father is telling of the misogyny swaying ppl's opinions on this
They were married for close to 20 years and had 3 children, she wasn't "impregnated non-stop". I don't doubt he was a crappy husband and treated her poorly. He never deserved her. However, she made choices in her life and should take responsibility for them. She wasn't a child, she could have acknowledged the cheating and chosen not to endure it, she could have chosen to establish boundaries with him and his family, she could have chosen to not sacrifice herself but strike a healthier balance for her kids, she could have walked away but he's the one who filed for divorce. She had choices but she chose to hold on to a man who was always bad news. After 20 years, it's not surprising she's angry but she should remember she made the choice. A bad man isn't going to be great because you refuse to accept that what he is, is just a fantasy
@@judykhalamwa9418 I agree that "pregnated non stop" is a bit of an over exaggeration but that math you're doing is a little exaggerated too. They were married for 8 years (2013 to 2021) not 20. And why are we gonna put blame on her for not divorcing this awful man? If its so easy for a mother and wife to leave her cheating husband, it should be even easier for that same man to leave before he even cheats. This woman not only has to deal with the societal expectations that come with being a wife and a mother but she also has to be the one to deal with the burden of her husband making the conscious choice to cheat?? That man truly put her in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation: either break the family unit apart and fail to endure his shortcomings or stay and give a poor example to her children about how marriage and love should work.
It is hard to present legally valid evidence of infidelity in court, and in this particular case and seeing how Wong and his parents are, I wouldn't be surprised if she was blackmailed in some sort of way so that she would just settle. The victim blaming I'm seeing is kind of insane, so, she is being painted as a bad parent for publicly exposing her cheating husband and rightfully complaining about it (as much as she wants and needs) and being emotionally distressed, but Wong is not a bad parent for cheating?? The way I see it, when you're married and you have kids, if you hurt your wife in any way, you're also hurting your family as a whole, kids included. He was a bad parent for breaking his family and for cheating on his (pregnant) wife. Disgusting. Honestly, quite disappointed in your final take and thoughts, Stephanie.
I mean, she said she had all this evidence...sooo...hmm, what happened to all those messages and pictures? Sorry, she was not being truthful, and it appears his story has more credibility than hers. Why? Because she made evidentiary claims and then when time came she suddenly didn't have any of those photos, messages and pictures of him cheating...the evidence she claimed she had.
@@charissa6648 "She might not have had evidence that was admissible in court. That does not mean that she didn’t have some kind of proof at all. If his lawyer was skeevy enough, they could have had anything ruled as inadmissible. Money buys stuff like that. Not to mention, having text message proof, recording, videos, etc, would be hard to find admissible given most of the time it’s a breech of privacy to get that information. It doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. They just couldn’t show it in court in that case. That’s just a theory though. I know nothing of the actual proceedings." Saw it from a comment here
@@charissa6648if the evidence wasn't admissible in court for procedural reasons, or if she got silenced by other means by his powerful family and/or connections, then there would be "no evidence" at the trial. You could have actually read what the initial commenter wrote. The one you responded to. You likely haven't been in relationships where a power imbalance exists and it shows.
I don’t know why but Wang’s family gives me the same vibes as those rich privileged people who tend to think it’s normal and acceptable for men to cheat.
It makes them look good because they praise their genetic makeup🤭 the more women wants her son the more it makes her look good that she produce that thing.
@@Wontonsouplyfe yes in most high society, it is accepted with a blind eye in fact. i think she was naive and think if she put in the work and build the perfect family, his family will begin to accept and love her but i think his family never liked her (because the lack of her background comparing to theirs) and always thought she's not good enough for them hence the further abuse
"Well he kinda messed up and he apologised he doesn't deserve to be cancelled" ummm yes he does HE TRAUMATIZED HIS WIFE and she deserves to talk about it for as long she wants
Him being a groomer is a huge red flag & all you need to know about him imo 🤷♀️ And do we really give him a pat on the shoulder for being a parent for once which should be completely normal? Maybe her exposing all of this deserves no beauty prize but it's a completely human response after being in an abusive relationship. And of course he knows how to charm when necessary. He's a performer. It's possible he does have genuine remorse but that doesn't automatically put her in the wrong. His approach is typical DARVO: deny, attack, reverse victim & offender. Kneel all you want dude 🤷♀️
This!!! Him making “friends” with a 16 YEAR OLD GIRL tells me enough about his character. I find it so odd that Stephanie’s opinion towards the end was “maybe he was just staying silent to protect the kids, who knows 🥺 maybe he just made a mistake but she seems messy too” …just because he kneeled down on stage? Imo that’s just him being manipulative with the public, using a grand gesture to win people’s hearts
I can’t express my disappointment with the ending of this video and public opinion about the wife. She has been abused and traumatized not to mention groomed for years and yet she’s the one that people think is unreasonable? Kinda disappointed with Stephanie’s way of ending this video too. It’s just unfair to the wife!
Not sure if that is how it is within the English speaking community. but in the Chinese speaking community, SHE is the one getting the majority support. Most Chinese are glad that she speaks up and given that his career is only depends on the Chinese public. Plus the Chinese government demands their artist talents to show moral compass. His career is going to suffer. But then he is already filthy rich from decades of making multi-millions.
idk if you heard that she emphasise the word "IF" at the end. and shes presenting BOTH sides AND the reaction of netizens bcs we literally dont know what really happened. so i dont think its fair to feel disappointed with stephanie.
Is cheating multiple times over years not a part of your personality? I can understand maybe once but to this level I think it just shows one had a PR team and the other didn't and feels hurt. The guys scum and the wife is just hurt, weird how at the end it switched even though not much changed
Yeah, often times we ignore this small details. The wife is hurt for so long and taking out her anger and frustration that's why she keep doing it. And also she doesn't have a PR team to direct her like the husband. How beautifully they turn around the wife's outlet to clean the image of the guy. As you can see how all the tickets being sold out and people supporting him again. The wife's posting again and again, i can understand that as one of friend is going through the same thing. I also get tired sometimes from seeing her status but i can understand that it's her frustration that's coming out from holding back all this time. We need to understand that. I really can't understand how the guy inage is cleaned out so easily and he became the better person just because he decided to not react at that time and post things like her.
Wang did the right thing as a parent by not fighting and apologizing in public she says.... Girl are u serious? If he was a nice parent he would not even have cheated in the first place and made the kids mother suffer. If a man truly cares for his kids and family he would not roam around with other chicks and be a womanizer in first place.
DONT FORGET THE FACT : The way he criticize his wife and told her to talk in private BUT he block her is a RED FLAG! We must educate ourselves so narcissistic people can't manipulated us so easily.
this ending is so gross of stephanie, I legitimately can't even look at her the same for going in harder on the victim of years of abuse and neglect than the perpetrator. yuck.
Stephanie I usually agree with you almost everything when you're doing your videos but unless you've been in a relationship that is abusive long-term mentally probably physically as well you can't understand the impact that it has on your mind especially when somebody has already deemed you crazy you feel like you have to defend yourself non-stop until people know that you're not crazy and that's probably what she was going through and at some point in time during the marriage they could have had words where he might have threatened her and she was fearful of that which made her think okay I'll be exposed to him he could be capable of doing anything and that probably did give her more fear of that he could take her life not saying that he would but you just don't know
Having proof but it being admissible in court are 2 different things. It was probably that what proof she did have was all thrown out. How do you obtain proof like that legally without admitting the violation of someone's privacy (phone, email, computer).
Wrong. Even if you took a picture of the apparent nude pictures that popped up on Wong' s phone, those are admissible as evidence. It's not considered a privacy violation in this type pf circumstance, at least in the American courts. Anything in your camera roll is up for grabs as evidence. I'm sure there would have also been countless text conversations between the wife and husband regarding his alleged cheating as well. That would also be admissible. Look at the forms of similar evidence that was produced in the Amber Heard trial.
I get why she was scared of 3 strangers. We don’t know if that was a set up. He has no integrity so she can doubt his character and what he is willing to do to get his way, especially if he has NPD. I would be scared too.
yeah thats what..we wont ever know what was happening behind the scenes. already feeling scared of ur husband who's a narcissti and then him bring in 3 more random strangers to ur door is just not it.
The ending sort of just insinuates that a mother will be eradicated to her status of being a mother more than literally just being an actual human being going through trauma. Taking the argument that her not being a good mother equals that she must be sort of unreliable in her claims is just so sad. Hope she at least got some peace afterwards...
just because she has no valid evidence to present to the court and that makes what the guy did forgivable and untrue? Even murderers get away with crimes as long as they have connections and a 'great' lawyer. Is truly a man's world isn't it?
@@Brian-vi9vm To each their own. If you're not going to have any counterarguments, why even bother to comment? 🥱Create your own comment section, please.
@@onlydbrasko Then gives a "counter arguments". Rather than just saying... " I do not agree with you". Who's asking for your opinion? Create YOUR OWN COMMENT SECTION.
These people need to get off of the Internet, what a mess 😣 PS: I don’t appreciate the fact that she is not a “good parent” because she is vocal about his cheating and abuse, why does she has to stay quiet when she is been hurting for so long? That’s unfair! 😒 she’s the one who didn’t put the kids first? What about the father and family man, who constantly cheated for years? SMH 😒
First dislike Stephanie ever got from me. I don't give a shit that he bowed. He has an entire team working for him to keep his reputation, the wife has herself. He has been cheating on her their entire relationship including when pregnant and let's not forget she was most likely 16 when the relationship started and you still find sympathy for him? I pressed that dislike button so hard.
She chose him despite knowing his red flags. Women should take accountability for their choices lol. "He is a red flag but red is my fav colour 😍"- women . stop playing the victim.
@@kyara1835buddy she was 16 when they met, wasn’t he 26 and a celebrity with money?? The power play here was crazy, it’s essentially grooming. She was a kid!!
@@kyara1835he grommed her, first of all. A 26 year old has no business flirting or "hanging out" with a sixteen year old. Have you even thought about the power imbalance between them at the time?
Ok Stephanie if you think about this once a week then imagine this happening to you, really sympathize, would you forget about everything ever? Wouldn't you feel threatened? Also would you have been spying your entire time together keeping every receipt just incase? I don't get how you didn't understand the US court case final saying. You cover so many cases but I was wondering when did she birthed the first kid? Was she pregnant on her wedding day? like it's easy to count, or maybe you did and I'm deaf! But it was disappointing to see you getting influenced by others and his bowing. I'm so so glad people here think the same and still support the woman. She Will Need Her Entire Life to never forget about this. You could review your research.
Wow, what a crazy story. But as someone who had a toxic relationship with an abusive narcissist that always thinks he's right, i can relate to the pain & trauma this woman's having. It's understandable if she's feeling frustrated enough to speak up about what she's been through loudly.
i don't understand why she can't talk about it? she went through shit with him for YEARS and i'm not over looking him bringing up her japanese name, he knew what he was doing and we're just going to brush over that? or the fact that he admitted to knowing her when she was a minor but only "got together" later? let's be so serious right now and she is the bad guy? and NOW he's biting his tongue for his kids? PLEASE cry me a river... i love you steph but i don't know man, this take didn't feel right and sure we're all entitled to our own opinions but this one feels weird.
girl delete this video while you still got time 😭😭 like what is all that siding with the abuser at the end wtf??? and YES he should NOT have a career anymore hes a scumbag
According to some commenters Stephanie did delete the video and reuploded, but was to delete a photo (Wong with 3 random men) that was there beforehand. I won’t even say I’m disappointed, cause never expect anything from people. Just to treat everyone with God’s image & kindly until proven others. Steph darling, ngl the ending is and will always be an L
The wife has every right to talk about this as long as she wants to especially since she kept silent on the matter for so long until she couldn't anymore. There's just something iffy about abusive men and men who cheat who say very little in the matter and makes it seem as if the other party is crazy for going on and on and on about the matter. I've seen this happen with couples. The wife gets deemed crazy or nagging for "not getting over it."
But let's be real. No man who grooms a 16 yr old girl and then serial cheats on her while she's birthing kid after kid for him and sacrificing her hard-earned career for him is a good person. And if you're not even a good person first, then you damn sure can't be a good father. No man who grooms a teenage girl should be raising any kids. PERIOD. Matter of fact, no man who grooms a teenage girl should be allowed around anyone's kids. PERIOD.
Crazy how he cheated on her for all those years, with little apology online and just cuz the wife couldn’t provide evidence (which may be the court didn’t accept as the way she gained the evidence might be illegal) and everyone started sided with this horrible man. Lol and that bowing down on concert thing, i def would bow down if i cheated on my wife for years, neglected my children but still somehow neitizen bought tickets for my concert making me millions
He apologized publically but the public will never know if he did privately. Experience from having a narcissistic parent, they like the blame "but for the kids" and then go back to the same pattern. Both need therapy. Also if there no was proof of cheating, what about the texts with Yumi that she later showed that they switched chats? no way it ended just there, Did the courts want full-on tapes or what? Ive seen comments in other videos that people deserve second chances, if it was the wife being accused of cheating. There would be no chance at all tbh
He is the one with money. He has a team of divorce attorneys, and PR agency. Let’s not fall for the chauvinistic manipulations. If he truly cared for his family, pay up and call it a day. Why dragging and postponing this? She was a stay at home mom and I think people gave her too much credits for knowing how to maneuver social media except for simple fact of baring her soul. Many victims of domestic violence are not believed. Sad, really.
Regarding the wife getting alimony, the main reason should be because she basically gave up a possibility of a career to be a full time mom and wife due to the nature of what the gusband wanted. And we know how tough the hiring environment is for older women who are single mothers who have no previous work experience. So she rightfully deserves to get paid all the days of her life in the case of a divorce because her no good husband did not stand by his lifetime commiment to provide for her, and even took away her ability to provide for herself.
how was she painted as unhinged for talking about her suffering over years online and being told to get over it but him grooming a 16 yr old, cheating on his pregnant wife, letting his family treat her like shit, emotionally manipulating her and being a shitty father just a mistake lmao... also i'm sorry but the court rulings mean nothing to me especially when it's clear him and his family had the upper hand and the resources to rule it in his favour
Sad that even women like Stephanie can fall for this narcissictic type of man, why would you feel "emotional", at the end he DID cheat and fail as a parent
The thing is her evidences could been ruled invalid on court because how she got it,ie. those caps from Wang’s social media DM. It can be real also invalid the same time. At the end of the day,always the one with the better lawyer won.
I always agree with Stephanie but not this one . The sentiment for the cheating husband at the end was so uncalled for. The wife has no connection and no power to go against a man like that just her story and obviously for a person to reach her breaking point and act out now people are questioning her because she acted out ? Wow ! Idk How much this society expects from a woman . Yeah she has no proof but maybe that man made sure she doesn’t have any proof as man like him are always careful not to leave any footprints while committing a crime 😒.
I’m so very upset about how Stephanie ended this, it was very disappointing that they were her thoughts. All I can say is that obviously and thankfully she has never been in a situation such as this.
Stephanie…. Why are you rooting for him at the end. She went through so much and ranted a little too long in your opinion so that diminishes her feelings and what happened? That doesn’t sit right. Why are you saying he’s respectable at the end when he didn’t even have the decency to respect his own wife when they were married? Meh
saying that she was being dramatic about having 3 random MEN show up after all the drama and she has the kids is such a L take. having security cameras mean absolutely nothing and stephanie should know this when she has anxiety herself about her home and was in a situation where she felt unsafe in her home even though she has security. and saying he doesn’t deserve to be cancelled?? idkkkkk man you lost me at the end there
Right I had to stop and rewind at that part. So crazy to hear Stephanie brush it off when she herself is so protective of her home. If a bad ex came to her house with three random men...
So.. He groomed her. Isolated her in his family. Treat her like a breeder (just count the years she was pregnant and what not). Cheated on her, repeatedly. Let her name got tainted. And yet, your take is that he isn't that bad? And she has a character issue? These days, if one party is keeping quiet and the other party continues to talk, it doesn't mean much especially the power imbalance here. She has a lot at stake and imo, if she doesn't keep talking, she's going to get screwed over. He's a big name after all. Didn't expect to be disappointed in this time, Stephanie.
I was in a 9 year relationship. For 7 of those years (during my first was mentally, emotionally, verbally, and physically abuse on a regular basis. Every time i caught him cheating, he blamed me for cheating to justify his actions. While together he never contributed financially... not with our bills and not for ANY necessary expences for our kids. Even his parents, knowing full well what was going on, sided with him. Wrong is wrong. I 100% understand what she went through amd why this poor woman did what she did and said what she said... People can only take so much abuse, complete disregard, and utter disrespect for the WORLD to see...before they're FORCED into a corner. Im not mad at her for telling her story, it may help other abused women... even if she helps only 1.
She was isolated and she probably lost her connection with her friends and family after getting married, she couldn't stop talking because she haven't felt heard or had any support in a really long time. I think she was pretty much just taking out all those pains that she has been enduring and storing it all those years. Maybe she felt free and heard for the first time. Just becuase Wang won in the court doesn't means everything she provided before were false, he just have better team to back him up, it was proven that he did cheated on her multiple times and he looked less at fault because his replies and post were all managed by his PR team and about the education of the kids, how is it just the mother's fault? When they are both parents of those kids? We are forgetting that Wang is the breadwinner of the house so he should have been the provider for all those things, but I'm guessing he wasnt. And just because he bowed (probably becuase his manager told him to) doesn't mean he is all good now he will probably continue doing whatever he have been doing and he won't change. It's just really sad to see how people with power can get out of anything while people with less power or no power are always the troublemaker in other's eyes. Stephanie, I really love watching your videos and i understand you are always neutral on some messy cases like this, my comments are just my opinion on this video and i love all your contents, thank you for putting all the effort and your time for making videos for us. Love you 🫶🫶
"if its true, that he probably did mess up a little bit". Steph i love your videos but i wouldn't phrase years of cheating and neglecting his children and marriage as that.
“well he kinda messed up and apologized he doesn’t deserve to be cancelled” HE TRAUMATIZED HIS WIFE AND KIDS FOR YEARS?!!! i loveeee stephanie sooo much but she really threw me off with that 😭
I'm sorry but she reads Colleen hoover books so I wasn't surprised 😭 I love stephanie but her reading Colleen hoover tells me exactly why she thinks he "probably did mess up a **bit** 💀
@@hanluvsSHE DOES??!!! 💀 Please I’m praying this isn’t true, it’s such a red flag (is it from her other channel where she talks about books/shows/movies? I don’t really watch that)
Stephanie, hun, just redo the ending of this video. Girl I was with you till then. There was no need to get emotional for this guy, especially considering how the woman most likely did have receipts (obviously from how she was ready with the clap back to the mistress Yumi) but that doesn’t mean that her receipts could be accepted as legal evidence especially if obtained illegally with privacy laws in mind. The wife stayed consistent and even if she posted a ‘recap’ who cares. She needed to vent and for everyone to know what the fudge was going on and maybe if she did have a PR team she would have been prepared to stop posting like her scumbag ex but regardless that’s no reason to discredit anything she said so far. You should expose cheaters, regardless if that person is a mother/father to your children, because cheating is not something I’d want passed down to my kids anyway so they should see what is not okay to do. If you are wrong you are wrong and she already said dude doesn’t even care to show up for his kids birthdays and isn’t even present. She owes him nothing, not a good father not a good husband. Just a narcissist and cheater seems like. Hope she got everything she deserved for her and the kids, screw the netizens.
He kneeled to his fans? I mean yeah, that's the least he could do for all the money he got from them. They're funding his career and ego. As someone who has been through an abusive relationship full of trauma, the pain doesn't stop when the divorce is over. The wife could have just talked to trusted loved ones but the pain one endures doesn't just end when the rest of the world moves on from the drama. Either way, I never liked him. His family sounds really shitty.
So cheating throughout a marriage isnt a big deal now, just a little mistake 🙃 I think people need to understand that infidelity isnt included when you say "ups and downs" in a relationship, it doesnt work like that. Cheating is definately one of the worst things you can do to your spouse and a deal breaker and definately a reflection of your character. Wow, this mans so good with manipulation he can just get on his knees and all is forgiven lol.
It is not fair to judge her character at this time. Simply, she is a very angry woman. I doubt that any woman, regardless of how her marriage is would be happy with divorce. And of course neither one of them is a winner in this situation, there are only losers. The ones that lose the most are obviously the most vulnerable the children.
Im glad she spoke up about it dealing with a cheating narcissistist was definitely a horrible situation and adding children into the equation is so heartbreaking
My mom got cheated on by my dad and it was a pretty messy divorce and my mom TO THIS DAY is truly hurt by it and still talks abt it. Now and then she talks shit about him but everything is reasonable in my eyes. Although she wishes his wife and him the best ( WHICH WAS HIS MISTRESSSSS ) it still hurt her. So this story really hits me. And I hope she’s okay and doing what’s best for her the kids.
Let's not forget that this guy had been in her life since she was 16. He stole her younger years, she's not famous or nearly as rich as him, and he traumatized her with such an outrageous level of infidelity while she was pregnant 3 times back to back. The audacity of he and his family acting like they're the victim.
I’m actually disappointed in Stephanie’s views on this. Like you just said that he groomed her basically and cheated on her and then you’re like omg guys he didn’t create a mess online and he wasn’t a best husband but maybe he can change like what ?????? And then proceeded to say how she was a drama Queen and should not be talking about HER abuse which she suffered for yearsss for more than 3 days. Girl I know you’re aware how it’s so hard to provide evidence for infidelity in court. I’m truly disappointed in u Stephanie
same thoughts! kindof disappointed with her views on this. I love her but especially when she said that good parents don't shit talk the other parent for their children... i mean, parents are still humans and that the mother suffered LONG term abuse, dealt with pregnancy post partum back to back, got cheated on back to back and was groomed when she was still a minor. That really does create some damage in one's character & spirit. now the guy is back on stage, probably back to his same old life, earning millions again as if nothing happened but the wife STILL has that trauma and pain. That's not just a "mistake" or something small.
"Good parents don't talk shits about the other parents." This is BS. Years of emotional abuse and you can't talk shit about it ??? Obviously, as a mom and wife of an abuser, she was breaking down and screaming for help.
Ik, like saying you're not allowed to speak on your trauma because "that's not what a good parent does." And the "she couldn't show evidence for the infidelity." like no shit, her husband isn't gonna just hand over all his text messages, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Wong himself doesn't even deny any of her claims except that he offered her money.
I just went through divorce n custody case with narcissist, he has money,he has power ,even im dedicated mother but i lost the case,his character was not good n i had proofs but making them public was big decision considering my children future,ppl will talk to them abt case but they wont be haunted by their dads nudes n vdos with other women I feel this woman is right but got shut off
He dated a minor, kept ther till of age then impregnated her, married her. He was mostly absent during their marriage, for work but made time to cheat on her, repetitively, unremorsefully. While his wife barely able to breath, juggling pregnancies and 3 children on her own. But in the end, because he got "better PR responses" and better lawyers with solid evidences, The community is siding with him. Such shallow thoughts. He apologized and bowed once, and the public got sweet on him. Men really get it easy for divorces, and life, overall.
to Li Jing Lei : if you watch this and happened to stumble across this comment, I want you to know that you're such a loving mother and a very kind person. I hope nothing but good things to happen after this painful divorce from the man you loved at some point in your life. I wish you and your children good health and harmonious environment in your home. Thank you for sharing your story 💗
Do better Stephanie. Am shaking with rage over your take on this whole situation at the end of video. This woman was pregnant for 4 years straight and raised the kids on her own. How can you, Stephanie freak out over your sisters first born traumatizing you have the nerve to judge someone having gone though years of nothing but pregnancies without the support of her husband & family. Whatever this mother of 3 needs to do battle the sexist Chinese media & the netizens I don’t dare criticize her. Beyond obnoxious to judge the wife when she’s obviously been a victim to media savvy husband working the system. I’d love to hear how anyone else would’ve done any better than the wife, including Stephanie
Yup, I've lost all the respect I had for Stephanie after this take. Like what the actual fuck? Oh be quiet you he only cheated pfff, stay silent for your kids... I feel like its just the sexist mentality, men cheating aint so bad. And for her to say they were both equally bad lol wut????
Understand your rage, but she is just presenting the public opinion from the netizens, and that's how it turned out. Cause at the end of the day, no one knows whose right and wrong as there's no solid evidence from both parties
@@ynnej3045 No, i think most people are mad at her take at the very end where she was explaining he bow to his concert audience and stephanie basically said if it's true, he just mess up a bit, no big deal .. it just seems like she brush it off as a small mistake that he has done ........
@@ynnej3045umm, no, we are very criticizing Stephanie's take at the end. He does all this abuse but gets a pass because he bowed and that made her emotional? Oh come on, now!
Darling her life and the kids life was basically destroyed….being financially stable or comfortable doesn’t cover the amount of pain him cheating on her especially with kids? the pregnancy and postpartum cheating 🤯🤯🤯 (i would kill my partner) you don’t understand the intensity of emotions you would have she has all the rights to say that she was hurt and broken
Don't want to air your DIRTY LINEN then DON'T CREATE DIRTY LINEN IN THE FIRST PLACE! Abused men & women whether married or single, should be encouraged to speak out & not keep it a secret. Cheating spouses/partners continue to cheat because the cheated spouse/partner kept quiet about it & keep forgiving them.
