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wilderness systems Recon 120 HD walk thru and Radar 115 comparison 

Chris Shipman
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just got the Recon 120 HD...wasn't alot of videos showing actual production version so thought i would do this comparison to my Radar 115 and walk thru showing the features.

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@Toasty_1992
@Toasty_1992 2 года назад
I’ve seen every review on this kayak. As a fisherman this is the best one yet. We need some updated videos of the kayak.
@johnwolff1043
@johnwolff1043 3 года назад
Good info but turn off those text notifications. The continuous beeping at the beginning was driving me crazy.
@youayang4475
@youayang4475 3 года назад
Do more reviews on it. Stablility test, the pedal drive, turn radius
@willcarl2648
@willcarl2648 Год назад
Great job showing disadvantages and advantages. Thinking about getting the recon 120
@chucklathan
@chucklathan 3 года назад
Thank you so much for taking the time to show us the recon. I have ask wilderness to post a walk through since the release. But sadly they have yet to do so. You answered all the questions I had about this kayak. And you pointed out all the things I didn't like about my 115 I am like you I love my radar. And thanks to you taking the time to show ma the recon it will be added to my kayak fleet thank you again much appreciated.
@TheBoomboxgroup
@TheBoomboxgroup 3 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to do this! I have a radar and am expecting a recon in the next couple weeks! Your video comparison was exact what I was looking for!
@MtnXfreeride
@MtnXfreeride Год назад
Has the recon been a lot better?
@marketjunctionband
@marketjunctionband 3 года назад
I did the lower guadalupe from the canyon lake dam to the dunlop dam in my wilderness ATAK and it was great! I'm about to buy the recon. Great video! Let's go fishing!
@cjaye000
@cjaye000 3 года назад
Great great great video man!!! Much better than any from Wilderness. I just bought a Recon and you just made me love it even more. Thank you bruh!!!
@cubanrum
@cubanrum 3 года назад
Great video, just got my Recon can’t wait to use it. Would love a follow up now that you have had it for awhile.
@WALSTIB107
@WALSTIB107 3 года назад
Great vid. Would love to see your full "5 months later" plusses and minus' and any mods you've done.
@fishwithoutfear8970
@fishwithoutfear8970 3 года назад
Looks like someone is happy to get their new battleship. Don't blame you dude, she's a beautiful yak. Very timely review man, been wondering about this one. Awesome comparison between the radar. Well done.
@EricLewis-fk3rp
@EricLewis-fk3rp 2 месяца назад
I Hope they remake the radar concept with a bunch of fixes. It’s got potential to be so much better. Another thing I’ve noticed is that the distance from your seat to the rear rod holders on the wildy krate is far when you have the seat forward to pedal (at 5’10 I’m not tall but not that short that I’d expect this problem). With the 135 you get a bigger front hatch but the trade off is there is no sealing that thing well. At least that’s the case with mine where the lid does not fit the rim attached to it.. Either the recon/ATAK hatch or build the thing better. There’s many other little changes that I would make as well. Edit: just noticed with your radar rudder cables you still have them in the last guide before the rudder. Take them out of that guide and they will be more in line.
@Brep17
@Brep17 2 года назад
Awesome vid!
@TahoeYakFisher
@TahoeYakFisher 3 года назад
I ordered this kayak today, already watched this vid a few times, helped with my decision. Thank you.
@mikeh6583
@mikeh6583 2 года назад
Tahoe Yakfisher, how you like your Recon 120HD? Looking at buy it or the Old Town Sportsman 120 PDL can't decide which.
@TahoeYakFisher
@TahoeYakFisher 2 года назад
@@mikeh6583 hey there, I love my Recon but I didn't get an HD, I'm a "Hobie" guy when it comes to pedals! My Recon rules the water as a "motor boat" though!
@mikeh6583
@mikeh6583 2 года назад
@@TahoeYakFisher thanks for the info! I like Hobie too, depending on the model. Don't want to pay the price of a new one and I'm not a fan of the color options of the used ones in my area. Found a barely used(guy says twice) Recon HD with paddle and brand new wilderness cart in my area that I'm supposed look at today. Quite a bit cheaper than a Hobie and way cheaper than new price of the Recon. Hope I'm making the right move! Can find almost no videos of actual owners using them for months and reviewing them. Really like the layout of the Recon
@TahoeYakFisher
@TahoeYakFisher 2 года назад
@@mikeh6583 got ya, well I'm not sure you can go wrong. Its an absolutely fantastic fishing kayak. I have been fishing mine for almost a year and have NO regrets!
@mikeh6583
@mikeh6583 2 года назад
@@TahoeYakFisher I appreciate your input! I ended up getting the Recon last night, for the price didn't think I could go wrong
@dixee6498
@dixee6498 2 года назад
I totally agree Chris. I love the Radars but I have 2 gripes. Both Radars have the drive cover pod that you have to unscrew the top in order to used it as a dry storage should you choose not to have a pedal drive. Also I agree with you 1000% on the 115's small bow hatch. There are plenty of other companies out the that utilize a full sized hatch. Other than that the Radar in my own humble opinion is a great platform. Subscribed.
@BeardedDadFishing
@BeardedDadFishing 3 года назад
Great video thanks man. And put your phone on vibrate next time 😆
@mannyfiu1212
@mannyfiu1212 2 года назад
Regarding paddle holder while in use, I've seen people use the hatch cover strap with a U grip on the track.
@mikeh6583
@mikeh6583 2 года назад
Would love to see an update video on likes and dislikes.
@Wingnut2312
@Wingnut2312 3 года назад
Can you post an updated review showing how you installed the battery as well as you're pros/cons after using it? Or if you could just tell me where the best place to install the battery is. Thanks!!
@shawnshipman7279
@shawnshipman7279 2 года назад
My name is Shawn shipman and I have a recon 120 and love it I wonder if we’re related lol
@greygoose117
@greygoose117 3 года назад
Is that the Mesa camo color? And on the underside, I couldn’t tell because the camera didn’t pan far back enough, how long are the indentations for the transducers? Just wondering if they’re long enough for all these long side scan transducers out on the market now
@TWC6724
@TWC6724 3 года назад
Have you ever been on a Native pedal drive? Wondering how the 2 systems compare.
@itsmeddmorales
@itsmeddmorales 3 года назад
How is the stability on the Recon? i'm a bigger guy and with the seat height i dont know if it would feel tippy or not, im really wanting this kayak though.
@brianmcquinn5897
@brianmcquinn5897 3 года назад
Best review on the net for the Recon 120 and Radar 115. I own a Radar 115 and completely agree with all your comments (both positive and negative). The only thing that I am curious about is whether you found that the center hatch annoys you when you are standing and fishing (which it does for me, but I stand a lot). You seemed to indicate that you could use the drive from your radar in the recon, is that true? Becuase boy would that save a lot of money! (it also means that if you have two kayaks - e.g. one at cottage, one at home, you only need to bring the pedal drive!) I look forward to a review once you have been on the water and really got a feel for it. Especially in strong winds because the Radar seat's ability to drop down a few inches when things get dicey was a nice feature - although I see the benefit of a higher seat for fishing.
@SIXTY2GALAXIE
@SIXTY2GALAXIE 3 года назад
yes, the drive is the same, the rudder is the same...the only notable difference between the 2 is the rudder control handle. Rudder deployment is different, but same cords and all, just where you run them is different. Wilderness has done away with the brass inserts on the Helix drive, so the Recon drives won't have the brass inserts, however my replacement Radar drive is insert free as well.
@brianmcquinn5897
@brianmcquinn5897 3 года назад
@@SIXTY2GALAXIE Thanks! Much appreciated.
@richmurphy5647
@richmurphy5647 2 года назад
How does is paddle? Can u go all day, My main use will be scouting moose for hunting and kayaking with the family. Is it too wide?
@gamingdreams2142
@gamingdreams2142 3 года назад
I'm really thinking of getting the recon but is it slow for paddling?
@davehughes6151
@davehughes6151 3 года назад
Can you store fishing,poles thru front hatch ?
@andrue17
@andrue17 3 года назад
At 38" wide I will pass on it. I sold my radar 115 due to it being slow, heavy and a barge to paddle and it was only 34.5 inches wide.
@bucac1213
@bucac1213 2 года назад
Is the helix drive for the 2 kayak different?
@experimentalfishing1292
@experimentalfishing1292 3 года назад
I was looking at the model today in a local store...kindof interested..Do you still like it?
@tonyp2135
@tonyp2135 3 года назад
The recon 120 pedal did they fix the alignment problem?
@stevenpalomar6451
@stevenpalomar6451 3 года назад
Hey man I just bought a Recon 120 HD and was wondering if you would recommend a scupper plug size since I'm still waiting to have mine shipped
@SIXTY2GALAXIE
@SIXTY2GALAXIE 3 года назад
I get the yellow ones at bass pro, I guess the medium size. They are the ones I've used on my Radar for years...
@jairrodriguez4430
@jairrodriguez4430 3 года назад
Hi, I can't find a kayak roof rack for this model, I bought 2 recon 120 and I have a Hyundai Tucson. All kayak roof racks that I see on market are 36 inches and 75lbs and recon 120 is 38 inches and 94.6 lbs. Any suggestions?
@robbiejohnson3698
@robbiejohnson3698 3 года назад
The seat is only one position that is the rise position doesn’t go down in the low position
@adamm6414
@adamm6414 3 года назад
Well, wheres part 2 after your tournament?
@xplosivetg1
@xplosivetg1 3 года назад
You seem like you know a lot about kayaks. Im kinda new still. Do you have any experience or opinion on the vibe shearwater 125? This one is way out of my price range.
@SIXTY2GALAXIE
@SIXTY2GALAXIE 3 года назад
Vibe has traditionally made a great kayak. I've had friends with the seaghost and loved them. The shearwater is a good looking kayak...the drive and rudder leave alot to be desired though. Those I know with the shearwater have had issues with those areas, however they also were some of the first to get it...those bugs may have been worked out by now.
@xplosivetg1
@xplosivetg1 3 года назад
Thanks man. Yea I saw some reviews stating the same thing.
@jhunjboogiehernandez7559
@jhunjboogiehernandez7559 3 года назад
Hi Cris, That 120 HD all rust proof? I’m planning to use it 100% here in San Francisco Bay Area.
@SIXTY2GALAXIE
@SIXTY2GALAXIE 3 года назад
The 120 HD uses the same drive as the Radar. I've had that drive well over a year, salt and freshwater...never had an issue with anything rusting.
@jhunjboogiehernandez7559
@jhunjboogiehernandez7559 3 года назад
@@SIXTY2GALAXIE thank you for your time and be safe
@johnwolff1043
@johnwolff1043 3 года назад
What happens if you T bone a rock with the helix drive? Is there a breakaway mechanism or something to protect the drive?
@SIXTY2GALAXIE
@SIXTY2GALAXIE 3 года назад
You bend the tabs on the latches...when you strike an object, the latches give way, acting as a shock absorber
@simcoeoutdoors9046
@simcoeoutdoors9046 Год назад
Will the radar helix pd fit recon or is bottom plate different
@SIXTY2GALAXIE
@SIXTY2GALAXIE Год назад
yes, the Helix mount is the same for both kayaks. The brush guard will have to be modified to fit around the prop alignment slot on the Recon. They have separate rudder steering handles but all the physics is the same.
@coreyjohansen9823
@coreyjohansen9823 3 года назад
Please make another vid now that you have had it for awhile
@AuburnMan
@AuburnMan Год назад
Sounds like you are a popular guy lol
@robbiejohnson3698
@robbiejohnson3698 Год назад
How stable and turning radius
@SIXTY2GALAXIE
@SIXTY2GALAXIE Год назад
turning radius is about same as most switchblade rudder kayaks. The faster you go, the faster it turns.. Extremely stable kayak. I'm still using the same kayak as my tournament rig.
@widilbee
@widilbee 3 года назад
Still happy with your Recon?
@SIXTY2GALAXIE
@SIXTY2GALAXIE 3 года назад
absolutely!!! I spend a full day on the water when I'm out...and I stay comfortable all day. There are the few little things I'm not happy about, but I've adjusted to those and continue to fish on!
@widilbee
@widilbee 3 года назад
@@SIXTY2GALAXIE That's the answer i'm looking for. I have one on order.
@TWC6724
@TWC6724 3 года назад
@@SIXTY2GALAXIE What things are you not happy with? Just wondering. Looking at this model as well as NuCanoe Unlimited.
@SIXTY2GALAXIE
@SIXTY2GALAXIE 3 года назад
@@TWC6724 I wish it had a paddle park on the outside of the kayak. I use the paddle storage normally, but there are times I need my paddle and would be nice to have a spot to clip the paddle into. I will probably add one eventually. I normally throw the kayak in the bed of my truck, but recently I had to trailer it. I love the built in handle at the back, but kinda wished there was one on top for securing when transporting.
@Wellmanneredcanine
@Wellmanneredcanine 3 года назад
Please record in landscape
@barneyprince9257
@barneyprince9257 3 года назад
I sold my radar mainly because of that rudder what a design fail in my opinion
@justaguy259
@justaguy259 3 года назад
Put the phone on silent before making a video.
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