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At the age of 27, Patrick Mahomes has now won two regular season and two Super Bowl MVPs. This was Mahomes' third Super Bowl appearance and has hosted the AFC championship every year he's been a starter. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe debate on whether Mahomes will surpass Tom Brady as the GOAT quarterback or not.
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@UndisputedOnFS1
@UndisputedOnFS1 Год назад
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@ThomasFromTN
@ThomasFromTN Год назад
I really hate these STUPID "What if" kinds of conversations.
@jaygreen2726
@jaygreen2726 Год назад
Is Skip an analyst or pundit?
@LifetimeSuccess
@LifetimeSuccess Год назад
Shannon on his stuff today
@ladonnaedge9161
@ladonnaedge9161 Год назад
Joe Montana... Never lost
@kevinwalsh4652
@kevinwalsh4652 Год назад
When Brady won ring #2, nobody was comparing him to Joe Montana or Terry Bradshaw. Here's THE reason Patrick will never eclipse Tom: last night's tackle before first half almost snapped his ankle. Think RG3, running QB's take physical abuse, one wrong hit, and your done, if he keeps running he will find out the hard way.
@MrKeepItGoing
@MrKeepItGoing Год назад
Too early to be having that conversation. That man has 5 more championships to win and a divorce to go through.
@smilze16
@smilze16 Год назад
Ha! 😂😂😂
@bigturse10
@bigturse10 Год назад
Not really. Say he gets 3?. I think with his skill, the amazing plays he makes. Will put him in the discussion. He don't need 7 or 8 to be above him. He's already in the argument for BOAT. Imo
@QuanLovesGaming
@QuanLovesGaming Год назад
Cheated for 2
@firellparker7463
@firellparker7463 Год назад
How's it too early to be having that convo, you lot can't comprehend, they're saying can he surpass him, the answer is yes, everything points to him BEING ABLE to do it, but people don't know because he's in season 5/6.
@mclordawesome
@mclordawesome Год назад
@Alex Weninger old brady outplayed him for his 7th ring... sorry man if you get beaten by the guy you are trying to catch when he's at his end and you already have a superbowl and the best team.. then sorry. You will for a very long time not have the goat debate in your favor even if you catch up in rings and accomplishments
@beazy3364
@beazy3364 Год назад
Why are we acting like Brady and Mahomes didn't have damn near identical stats just LAST YEAR when Brady was 45. Put respect on Tom, this young man is great but it's way too early for this.
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
👍💯🙋‍♀️
@jacobvanderhooft2188
@jacobvanderhooft2188 Год назад
He didn’t 😂🤡
@russell9411
@russell9411 Год назад
He didn’t tho that’s the thing
@michaelmoorekingmoore4391
@michaelmoorekingmoore4391 Год назад
I don't care Brady's time has come and gone Just let the young man play DAMN!!!!
@LASAGNA_LARRY
@LASAGNA_LARRY Год назад
In 2021, Brady at age 44 was statistically better than Mahomes. Mahomes: 37 TD, 13 INT, 4839 Yds, 66.3% Brady: 43 TD, 12 INT, 5316 Yds, 67.5% Mahomes is amazing and definitely on pace to become the 2nd best of all time and possibly compete for the GOAT status. But we have to wait for him to win 5 more SBs and also see how he plays at age 44 as well.
@andypham4216
@andypham4216 Год назад
This was mahomes 5th year starting. But they are comparing it to bradys numbers at 27 after brady's 3rd season starting. The numbers get much better if you compare their first 5 years starting. That being said, Mahomes is the only one in the league right now who can sniff Brady's legacy. His talent is undeniable and with the coach he has now, the tight end, and his contract that will look more and more team friendly as the years go by, he has a chance.
@Fawnjcol
@Fawnjcol Год назад
@ Andy Pham you got that right, but hater Skip will never acknowledge the greatness of Mahomes.....that would be to much like right. I think Skip needs to be cancelled. He is so bias and won't for the life of his own, be fair to Mahomes and any other great player besides the washed up or mediocrte player he supports. He's just a case of loud mouth and nonsense.
@MaxPower-vf8kt
@MaxPower-vf8kt Год назад
Hey, that’s logic! That’s cheating. Can’t make a 20 min video (including the other video that preceded this one) with that logic.
@khristionlouvatin6874
@khristionlouvatin6874 5 месяцев назад
Mahomes cannot see Tom Brady ever
@QBHOF
@QBHOF 4 месяца назад
Lamar Jackson has entered the room
@andypham4216
@andypham4216 4 месяца назад
@Audible.Productions once Lamar wins a few superbowls then I think we can add him. Same with Josh Allen Joe burrow etc. Great individual players, but can they lead your team against the rest of the NFL and come out with the win time after time after time? Right now Mahomes is the closest of any active player and he still needs 5 more superbowl wins... just to tie.
@kdnz
@kdnz Год назад
Wait… Shannon says “you don’t throw that flag at that moment in the AFC championship game” but in the Super Bowl “you throw that flag it’s a penalty!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@peskypesky
@peskypesky Год назад
I caught that too.
@cruzdigital7772
@cruzdigital7772 Год назад
Underrated comment.
@nikoa2411
@nikoa2411 Год назад
You know the media couldn’t wait for this discussion after Mahomes won yesterday
@markjackson5333
@markjackson5333 Год назад
All rigged
@McMinderbinder
@McMinderbinder Год назад
Yup
@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178 Год назад
@@markjackson5333 cry more😭😭💀 stop watching if it rigged
@markjackson5333
@markjackson5333 Год назад
@@yaboisoe178 makes me money
@codylasik1380
@codylasik1380 Год назад
Yep the nfl showed their hand early in the bengals game they weren’t allowing Mahomes to lose. Anybody with a brain bet on KC
@Soccercrazyigboman
@Soccercrazyigboman Год назад
"I know what you're trying to do Skip Bayless and I ain't gonna let you do it" 🤣🤣. The way he drank that drink, 0:07 the look, and the way he delivered that 🤣🤣
@ladonnaedge9161
@ladonnaedge9161 Год назад
Joe Montana... Never lost
@broderickcrawford8110
@broderickcrawford8110 Год назад
@Ladonna Edge he lost quite a few regular season games and playoff games...he never lost a game in the superbowl. I'm not sure what you were referring to but I digress
@rell_5000
@rell_5000 Год назад
@@ladonnaedge9161 Never even threw a pick in a Superbowl.
@elcee3292
@elcee3292 Год назад
@@ladonnaedge9161 Montana had one of the greatest coaches and greatest assemblage of talent ever. Football was much different then. Just about everyone would take mahomes now over Montana
@poocrayon4588
@poocrayon4588 Год назад
@@elcee3292 Yeah Montana was getting smashed - who knows how Mahomes would hold up getting sacked as rough as Montana did
@erikpuka2627
@erikpuka2627 Год назад
Blind reveal: 3 Game SB sample size Player A: 256 YPG 6 TDs 1 INT 65% completion. 98 PR (3-0) 2 SB MVPs Player B: 245 YPG 5 TDs 4 INT 61% completion. 87PR (2-1) 2 SB MVPs Player A: Tom Brady in his first 3 Superbowls (3-0) 2001-2004 Player B: Mahomes in his first 3 Superbowls (2-1) 2019-2022 Not to mention the legendary playcalling on offense Mahomes has had (best ever), much superior weapons (Pats weapons were aming the worst in the league) and the OLine. Also the era Brady played in those 3 and the Mahomes era were way way different when it comes to rules. It was much harder to put up stats back then.
@victorpadilla8222
@victorpadilla8222 Год назад
"We can have a different conversation about a lot of different topics, but we can only have the discussion about what actually transpired." Wise words from Unc right there! 🙏
@johnrodriguez107
@johnrodriguez107 Год назад
Until his favorite athletes fall short of championship expectations than the excuses come out of that man's mouth
@cruzdigital7772
@cruzdigital7772 Год назад
@@johnrodriguez107 exactly
@MayoMonsters
@MayoMonsters Год назад
@@johnrodriguez107 that’s all pundits to be fair
@Itsxmusic
@Itsxmusic Год назад
@@johnrodriguez107like who?
@johnrodriguez107
@johnrodriguez107 Год назад
@@Itsxmusic lebron
@jonturner7729
@jonturner7729 Год назад
It’s disrespectful to even have this convo right now. Tom has 7 rings… I will say, Pat is the only one who has a shot.
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
Way too early. Reckoning will come. It's hard work to beat Brady. What about his injury? Not healed. What else will this bring him? Availability is a requirement.
@Von_SRT
@Von_SRT Год назад
@@judithoberpaul509 facts, and I think people are missing the fact that Brady has literally played 23 years that’s also hard to reach
@LASAGNA_LARRY
@LASAGNA_LARRY Год назад
@@Von_SRTBrady technically only started in 21 seasons. First season he was on bench behind Bledsoe. And he tore his ACL and was out in 2008. But still, starting 21 seasons is absolutely ridiculous. 👀
@Von_SRT
@Von_SRT Год назад
@@LASAGNA_LARRY True
@kdubs928
@kdubs928 Год назад
@@Von_SRTI’d rather have the light that shines brighter for a shorter time then the light that shines dimmer for longer but everyone has an opinion that’s why there will be a debate🤷🏾‍♂️
@simeonflake
@simeonflake Год назад
Ok, the last few minutes of this video was gold. I don't even think last night was a bad call, but I almost fell out of my chair when Skip started saying they honored JuJu like he was a #1 receiver.... 😂😂
@mariesettles4734
@mariesettles4734 Год назад
😂😂😂
@producedbysin6508
@producedbysin6508 Год назад
Eagles got the 2nd best tight end in the league in a trade and almost won the superbowl. That Kansas secondary was crazy, the Chiefs wanted it more, where was AJ brown? Where was DeVonta smith? Justin Reid hit him on the first play, them boys was playin hard, i hope JuJu gets a contract as well as Valdez scantling 🤫
@orarinnsnorrason4614
@orarinnsnorrason4614 Год назад
They only threw that flag coz Mahomeboi was pointing at it. Had nothin to do with JuJu lol. Skip is such a hipocrite. Love the debates though :)
@michaelcortez5414
@michaelcortez5414 Год назад
I love the way this segment started lmao “I know what you tryna do skip bayless”
@Bikiniman247
@Bikiniman247 Год назад
As a Missouri native I can say I love Patrick Mahomes and everything his done for our city and surrounding areas, that being said tom’s spot atop the mountain will never be challenged and that’s fine, I think we could chalk it up to brady being the best of his era, the question we should be having is; is mahomes going to be the best of his era when it’s all said and done
@philwalters3579
@philwalters3579 Год назад
Mahomes can be the best QB of the recent, softer gambling and money based, political, offensive biased, and ref controlled era. Tom was the best of the last real NFL era
@anthonygillespie7233
@anthonygillespie7233 Год назад
@@philwalters3579 YEAH BUT BRADY AND COACH WERE CAUGHT CHEATING TWICE, SPY GATE AND INFLATED FOOTBALLS AND i ALMOST FORGOT THE IMFAMOUS TUCK RULE AFTER HE CLEARLY FUMBLED THE BALL !!!
@wiseandstrong3386
@wiseandstrong3386 Год назад
I disagree never say never, Patrick has a lot of time and he's more accomplished than Brady at the same age. Imagine if he plays until he's 45?
@philwalters3579
@philwalters3579 Год назад
@@anthonygillespie7233 yep but then he continued to win later on as an old man on the Bucs
@anthonygillespie7233
@anthonygillespie7233 Год назад
@@philwalters3579 Playing against 2nd and 3rd string players. The CHIEFS were Soo beat up and injured. Same as the Eagles beating up the 49ers this year. And if you really look at it had they taken those 3 SBs from the Pats he would literary only have 4. Who knows if they cheated even more and didn't get CAUGHT !!! I'LL GIVE HIM THE 7 SBs BUT 3 SHOULD DEFINELY HAVE ??? MARKS.
@breesybird9207
@breesybird9207 Год назад
Tom Brady got a second Super Bowl MVP when he beat the Panthers. Branch got Super Bowl MVP in the Eagles Super Bowl the following season. I can’t believe that at least Skip didn’t catch that.
@ArganawkTLOD
@ArganawkTLOD Год назад
They get things wrong all the time💯💯
@pointyheadYT
@pointyheadYT Год назад
Skip wasn't a fan of Brady before 2014, his memory is probably a bit hazy.
@feliatene757
@feliatene757 Год назад
And Back to Back SB wins
@kevonsidek9737
@kevonsidek9737 Год назад
@@pointyheadYT damn so he wasn’t a fan of Brady during his first run with NE?
@pointyheadYT
@pointyheadYT Год назад
@@kevonsidek9737 He disliked Brady lol. Haven't you seen him debate SAS on First Take prior to 2012? He only took a U-turn after Brady won his 4th title.
@kaalen24
@kaalen24 Год назад
Mahomes is incredible. There is no denying his talent and skill and ability to win games and now super bowls. But Tom Brady is on another level. Endurance and consistency. Give the comparisons a rest. As of now, there is no comparing them.
@firellparker7463
@firellparker7463 Год назад
Lmao. He's not on another level, you've mentioning longevity, it's about talent and skill. Ts longevity ain't gonna eat alot if mahomes suits on his numbers
@takerfan4ever
@takerfan4ever Год назад
@@firellparker7463 he didn't just play long.. he played AND won.. All I hear is "if." Brady is on another level as of rn.. it's not a question
@isaacyoung3698
@isaacyoung3698 Год назад
@@firellparker7463well Brady showed Mahomes can’t beat him in a big game…so yeah he is on another level and that was at 45
@_The_Journey
@_The_Journey Год назад
Is he really on another level? Because talent wise mahomes is ahead of Brady by literal miiilllllles and mahomes at his young age has already shown to have the winning pedigree that very few QBs have amongst the individual MVP and passing yards leader accolades as well💯 obviously guys like Brady, montana, Rodgers and manning, etc are still over mahomes but I can definitely see why this is a conversation piece is what I’m trying to say
@rallymurrah7186
@rallymurrah7186 Год назад
d @@isaacyoung3698 They are both Great in their own way. ill never understand why ppl make these unnecessary comparisons
@RankDuchess
@RankDuchess Год назад
Shannon: “they shouldn’t have thrown the flag in Dee Ford, it’s too big of a game!” Literally also Shannon: “they gotta throw that flag on Bradbury, you throw the flag when a penalty is being committed”
@flame-sky7148
@flame-sky7148 Год назад
I know, he contradicted himself, good catch.
@Merct_
@Merct_ Год назад
I was about to type the same thing until I seen you beat me to it 😂
@tympanuchustornado
@tympanuchustornado Год назад
It's amazing both were flags, and both, nobody cares.
@hughhefner5348
@hughhefner5348 Год назад
I think he was being sarcastic and using skips argument against him
@amerzeb14
@amerzeb14 Год назад
No he was giving the same energy that skip was giving on how the Bradbury hold shouldn't be called but unc knows both calls were correct.
@abelramirez7320
@abelramirez7320 Год назад
I love Patrick Mahomes. Can the guy at least get to Joe Montana territory first? 😂 Who's asking these questions?
@yo3rdtier128
@yo3rdtier128 Год назад
He’s already better than Montana. Actually, Mohomes is already better than Brady
@DjSonicxify
@DjSonicxify Год назад
@@yo3rdtier128 better than brady? How? Bradys firts 5 years 3 SB and back to back. And that era was way tougher lmao. Stop the cap junior
@russell9411
@russell9411 Год назад
@@DjSonicxify it was so tough that Tom Brady won bowls throwing 100 yards
@mattfratamico670
@mattfratamico670 Год назад
@@yo3rdtier128 Rodgers is better than mahomes. Mahomes has already had more top 10 defenses than Rodgers’ whole career. Put Rodgers on the chiefs and they’re just as successful if not more so.
@christiansams8446
@christiansams8446 Год назад
@matt fratamico Arron rodgers is a folder mahomes already 2nd best of all time stats don’t lie
@aquariuskev24
@aquariuskev24 Год назад
Tom Brady won 3 superbowls in his first 5 years. Super bowl MVP in 2 of them. He didn’t win an MVP, back then it wasn’t a QB league like it is now. Mahomes has to do it with the longevity that Brady did, and it’s hard to say that any player will be able to do that for 23 years
@markjackson5333
@markjackson5333 Год назад
Mahomes joined a stacked team and soft rules help
@dominushydra
@dominushydra Год назад
Yep
@aquariuskev24
@aquariuskev24 Год назад
@@markjackson5333 And to say he’s ALSO gotten lucky isn’t an overstatement. If Jimmy G doesn’t overthrow Emmanuel Sanders in the first super bowl, we might be having a different conversation today. But I guess Brady is the only one who’s gotten lucky.
@steveyoung6317
@steveyoung6317 Год назад
The patriots cheated..
@Invictus-Solaris
@Invictus-Solaris Год назад
@@aquariuskev24 and now the regular seasons have one extra game. That allows a lot of regular season records to be blown out of the water.
@LASAGNA_LARRY
@LASAGNA_LARRY Год назад
In 2021, Brady at age 44 was statistically better than Mahomes. Mahomes: 37 TD, 13 INT, 4839 Yds, 66.3% Brady: 43 TD, 12 INT, 5316 Yds, 67.5% Mahomes is amazing and definitely on pace to become the 2nd best of all time and possibly compete for the GOAT status. But we have to wait for him to win 5 more SBs and also see how he plays at age 44 as well. Get ready for a ride folks. We’re basically watching Lebron chasing Jordan all over again. Let’s sit back and see what happens.
@JermaineDurham
@JermaineDurham Год назад
pat coming to catch brady an he will b done forever period cnt wait my cheifs to dam dominant
@djnfbrhkelkondwvb6853
@djnfbrhkelkondwvb6853 5 месяцев назад
I love how you bring up the only year where Brady had the better numbers in the 5 years they were both starting at the same time
@kingrambo519
@kingrambo519 Год назад
C’mon bruh really? This is exactly why people were rooting against Mahomes nothing Mahomes did himself but the media is just beyond ridiculous when it comes to this stuff with these QBs man, not a fan of either team but Jalen Hurts lowkey outplayed Mahomes in my humble opinion. (Team Game)
@corbinhulsewe
@corbinhulsewe Год назад
I keep seeing people say Hurts outplayed Mahomes but I really don’t see how? At best I think they both played similarly great with a different play style. Hurts had the ball A LOT longer so of course his numbers were bigger, but he also had the only big mistake of the whole game with that fumble. Mahomes had the ball for nearly a whole quarter less and had to be almost perfect and was.
@kingrambo519
@kingrambo519 Год назад
@@corbinhulsewe Lol Hurts CLEARLY outplayed Mahomes stop
@becomingthenext6904
@becomingthenext6904 Год назад
Cuz he is a spectacle you guys don’t want mahomes to be better than brady so bad bruh
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Год назад
Yesterday showed everyone just how great Mahomes really is the way he was able to read the defense and always find the open man along with making the right play was beautiful
@stephanea5364
@stephanea5364 Год назад
Reading defense, when his receivers are wide open LOL
@pascalabessolo5350
@pascalabessolo5350 Год назад
@@stephanea5364 Yep. Against the number one defense of the NFL.
@777zippy777
@777zippy777 Год назад
@@pascalabessolo5350 49ers were the #1 defense in 2022. And two of Mahomes TD passes yesterday? Nobody within 20 yards of his receivers. That's more scheme than QB. And that's more Reid than Mahomes. My grandmother could've made those throws.
@willkittwk
@willkittwk Год назад
Didn't even make 200 yards passing. Everyone knows Mahomes throws more under 5 yard TD passes than anybody. That said I agree he is a great QB.
@richardhart9204
@richardhart9204 Год назад
@@stephanea5364 ... indeed, why is Kelce always wide open?
@julyhoward5757
@julyhoward5757 Год назад
I love Mahomes. I can't just dismiss the fact that the game is MUCH easier for Qb's, Wr's, and offense in general. What would Dan Marino have done in this era? There's always been great talent in the NFL. The rules can make talent even more talented.
@leshawnandrews7104
@leshawnandrews7104 Год назад
Brady benefited from the rules way more. He got the rules made for him😂 he couldn’t move so he got calls. Mahomes makes plays. Simple. Not just taking advantage of rules.
@hbspxjihuhcd
@hbspxjihuhcd Год назад
Makes it even harder to win in that case. Way too many good teams now. And quarterbacks too
@travismannix5178
@travismannix5178 Год назад
Marino would throw 60 touchdowns for sure maybe even 6k yards.
@larrycurrycarpediem
@larrycurrycarpediem Год назад
@@travismannix5178: Indeed
@-raist
@-raist Год назад
@@leshawnandrews7104 Yet, Mahomes is going to benefit longer from the same rules that Brady supposedly made….. Did you forget the NFL started to change the rules heavily since 2009….
@willkittwk
@willkittwk Год назад
Mahomes only threw for 179 yards last nite. TB12 is in a class by himself.
@polpol1005
@polpol1005 Год назад
so first 2 Brady's SB he was dominant? nope
@firellparker7463
@firellparker7463 Год назад
What about when Tom threw for 145 yards in a SB or won a SB with 0 Passing TDs and 1 INT, was he in a class by himself then.
@polpol1005
@polpol1005 Год назад
@@firellparker7463 great point
@nickstah9184
@nickstah9184 Год назад
@@firellparker7463 Mahomes threw like 4 ints in his first 2 sb appearances and like 2 tds. Mahomes is so overrated
@larryjames3437
@larryjames3437 Год назад
@@nickstah9184 2x MVP, 2x SB champ, 2x SB MVP, 3 Super bowl appearances, 5 AFC championship appearances, 2x passing TD leader, 1x Passing yard leader all as 5 years as a starter. Yea so ovERrAtEd
@chadbutler8634
@chadbutler8634 Год назад
This era is such a prisoner of the moment .
@ladonnaedge9161
@ladonnaedge9161 Год назад
Joe Montana... Never lost
@chadbutler8634
@chadbutler8634 Год назад
@@ladonnaedge9161 preach. Plus he only won two out of the 4 with Jerry. But I guess joe is joe
@Unriven
@Unriven Год назад
old eras were playing caveman football, Mahomes will end up top 3 no debate.
@Xhoven
@Xhoven Год назад
The "never lost" thing is so overrated. Montana also lost before the Super Bowl 7 times, including a 49-3 loss to the Giants. So that's better than getting to but losing a Super Bowl? Montana is #2 all time but I hate this argument. Montana lost by double digits 5 times in the playoffs, but because it's not the Super Bowl it doesn't matter...come on man.
@chadbutler8634
@chadbutler8634 Год назад
@@Unriven pat plays in a two hand touch era
@Terror832
@Terror832 Год назад
Tom Brady’s resume is almost incomparable. It makes Joe Montanas look paltry.
@dominushydra
@dominushydra Год назад
What do you mean "almost"?
@Alex-sf9bo
@Alex-sf9bo Год назад
Doug Pederson is better than belichick
@strikeout77777
@strikeout77777 Год назад
that's an ignorant statement, if brady played in joe's era, brady probably would have retired by age 35 smh
@israelp348
@israelp348 Год назад
@@strikeout77777 If your mother had testicles she'd be your father. You Brady haters are all about What-about-isms
@wilsonjoshwilson
@wilsonjoshwilson Год назад
@@strikeout77777if Tom Brady had a prime Jerry rice he’d have 11 Super Bowls
@jrad410
@jrad410 Год назад
Those two early losses to Brady could come back to haunt Mahomes. I said in another one I think he needs 5 chips at least.
@d.minicksr.1597
@d.minicksr.1597 Год назад
If anything both losses are suspect bad calls in the AFC Championship and no O-Line in the SB, but ok since Brady gets the praise then Mahomes only lost to him....
@jrad410
@jrad410 Год назад
@@d.minicksr.1597 you can always pick apart losses. Mahomes threw what might’ve been a same sealing pick in that afc title game but it was dropped. Fact is he lost
@stephanea5364
@stephanea5364 Год назад
@@d.minicksr.1597 What about the suspect bad call of yesterday? Dee Ford call in AFC championship was clear as day, not subject to interpretation like yesterday
@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178 Год назад
@@stephanea5364 it doesn’t matter mahomes the goat rn already anyway
@kingidktv7839
@kingidktv7839 Год назад
That afc championship game mahomes threw for 300 yards, 3td, no picks, 117 passer rating. Brady threw for 340 yards, 1 td 2 INT, 77 passer rating. I’ll say the defense let mahomes down, be also didn’t even get the ball in OT and got off the field with a lead in regulation, so yeah he really outplayed brady in that game. Super bowl was all about mahomes O-line vs bucs all time prime defense
@edmitchell3863
@edmitchell3863 Год назад
Eye test says Malhomes. Resume says Tom
@breauxcewayne1971
@breauxcewayne1971 Год назад
Shannon crushed Skip here. Skip is such a hypocrite. He talks about 1 throw Jimmy G didn’t make yet ignores all the mistake it took from Atlanta that allowed Brady to make that epic comeback. That doesn’t take away anything from Brady but he has no consistency in his arguments. Skip and his love for Tom Brady is absolutely ridiculous.
@chiefhead7
@chiefhead7 Год назад
it's way too early to have this convo, can't we wait till we're at least 10 years into his career before we start talking about GOAT status ?
@markfroman738
@markfroman738 Год назад
Three weeks ago Burrow was the GOAT. I hate the prisoner of the moment era of sports media.
@legitdragon6202
@legitdragon6202 Год назад
Exactly even as a Mahomes fan it's too early, but I guess that's what people want to do, just like people tried crowning Josh Allen or Joe Burrow prematurely ahead of Mahomes this season.
@bigmo1699
@bigmo1699 Год назад
No it’s not don’t be a lil fanboy and say that Brady could’ve played and won with one leg 😂
@londo64
@londo64 Год назад
@@bigmo1699 didn't Brady win Superbowl against Mahomes in 2020 with a torn MCL? So technically he can and he did win with an injured leg 🤣🤣
@agtrherhger484
@agtrherhger484 Год назад
Ur a legend
@187mrsmith
@187mrsmith Год назад
Not gonna lie this year just felt different it didn't feel like Super Bowl week or even like that big of a game It was just a weird vibe this year!
@markjackson5333
@markjackson5333 Год назад
Scripted
@dominushydra
@dominushydra Год назад
Was a really bad year of football.
@scruffd0g193
@scruffd0g193 Год назад
@@dominushydrathe 1pm games were always better than the prime times games (broncos 5 prime times games stunk each time)
@joshuaosborne9203
@joshuaosborne9203 Год назад
You are getting older and you realize that football doesn’t mean that much in the grand scheme of things. Food prices are going up and tensions with foreign powers are getting worse. People busy concentrating on protecting their families. The age of bread and circus is coming to an end. Or it could be because football is getting too predictable with these rigged games. Idk I’m just a guy.
@PGar58
@PGar58 Год назад
Actually I thought it was bigger than ever. It seems that even in the last few years the Super Bowl has really blown up.
@michaelwallace2487
@michaelwallace2487 Год назад
If the AFC didn’t have so many great and rising quarterbacks in it’s future, I would agree with you concerning Mahomes future dominance. These will create way too many obstacles that will prevent him from reaching championship games and Super Bowls on a regular basis and will impede his quest to catch Montana or Brady.
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
👍💯🙋‍♀️
@mikeyroberts9630
@mikeyroberts9630 Год назад
Ok lol mahomes gonna be in the sb next year too
@donnyjames8409
@donnyjames8409 Год назад
@@mikeyroberts9630 You spelled Burrow wrong
@michaelwallace2487
@michaelwallace2487 Год назад
@@mikeyroberts9630 Possible, but I doubt it. Other teams will be hungrier. Watch out for Cincy and Baltimore. Plus, you have noticed recently that teams rarely repeat? Also, though I admire Mahomes, he has an obvious flaw that people rarely bring up. He doesn’t play 4 quarters of consistent football which is why he always has to come back-which he’s good at-but this occasionally catches up with him and he does lose from time to time. Don’t make Kansas City a dynasty just yet.
@carlkash3587
@carlkash3587 Год назад
He’s definitely not gonna be going to the SB every year but remember Brady and bill had to wait a long time to get that 4th ring I personally think Kelce and Reid can get mahomes one more before he takes a mini back seat and new coach and System of players propel him back to the top
@Ptzou
@Ptzou Год назад
Tough call, Mahomes is amazing, but AFC is loaded with young and talented QBs now, Allen, Borrow, Lamar, Lawrence, Herbert, Watson and even Tua. It’s going to be tough to win like Brady competing against all of them every year.
@peskypesky
@peskypesky Год назад
Yep. AFC is loaded with qb talent. And there will be more to come.
@ladonnaedge9161
@ladonnaedge9161 Год назад
Joe Montana... Never lost
@malikbanks7126
@malikbanks7126 Год назад
Hats off to Andi Reid too what a amazing job he schemed together two perfect touchdown plays defenders wasn't even 10 yards of the receiver
@J.Edwards
@J.Edwards Год назад
It’s very unlikely that anyone will accomplish as much as Brady bc there’s a bunch of factors that come into it besides skill
@israelp348
@israelp348 Год назад
That sKiLl argument is so stupid. Brady has plenty of skill, people are stupid.
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Год назад
Brady went 10 years without winning a SB so it is not unlikely at all.
@megatran2556
@megatran2556 Год назад
For me, Mahommes will not have Travis Kelce forever.
@israelp348
@israelp348 Год назад
@@abc_12333 LMAO 😂 Brady had 2 MVPs within that time frame, 2 SB appearances, and crazy numbers, so many wins, and an undefeated season. Mahomes WILL NOT amount to half of what Tom has accomplished.
@ladonnaedge9161
@ladonnaedge9161 Год назад
Joe Montana... Never lost
@Invictus-Solaris
@Invictus-Solaris Год назад
Mahomes needs to surpass a lot of other QBs before he’s anywhere near Montana and certainly Brady.
@israelp348
@israelp348 Год назад
Exactly, Mahomes is already without the 10 all time but he's in the lower echelon of that list.
@dreezy1270
@dreezy1270 Год назад
You both stupid 😂 Pat is already top 5 almost everyone has him 3 or 4 right now after that win yesterday and a few have him top 2.
@acedawg2k169
@acedawg2k169 Год назад
Shannon Unc my guy, you are NOT AT CLUB SHAY SHAY 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Put that damn drink down pointing at skip like that! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I cannot breathe right now I’m laughing so hard! 13:02
@captaincoffeecake3595
@captaincoffeecake3595 Год назад
im a huge pats and brady fan , and mahomes is a incredible talent and a pretty cool guy. time will tell , so lets start talking about it in 15 years.
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
That's right. I fully agree 👍💯🙋‍♀️
@StevesSwift
@StevesSwift Год назад
No one is passing Tom, ever.
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
👍💯🙋‍♀️
@ashirfaruq3575
@ashirfaruq3575 Год назад
40 old tom beat mahomes when it matters most twice. end of discussion.
@ladonnaedge9161
@ladonnaedge9161 Год назад
Joe Montana... Never lost
@DjSonicxify
@DjSonicxify Год назад
@@ladonnaedge9161 tom went to 10.. Goat.
@humblebeast2706
@humblebeast2706 Год назад
@@ashirfaruq3575 Bucs beat the Chiefs bro. With that logic Eli>Brady. You’re just insecure lol. Brady still the goat tho .
@israelbarnes4704
@israelbarnes4704 Год назад
When he gets to 7 we can talk lmfao
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
👍💯🙋‍♀️
@philwalters3579
@philwalters3579 Год назад
And this last one doesnt count sorry
@polpol1005
@polpol1005 Год назад
nah rings are overrated
@mickser101
@mickser101 Год назад
Mahomes is phenomenal, hes an incredible QB. However, he'd need to play another 10 years to be in the discussion with Brady. Some of Bradys records will never be broken and the way Pat plays who knows if he'll get there. Time will tell
@ladonnaedge9161
@ladonnaedge9161 Год назад
Joe Montana... Never lost
@sdawg4834
@sdawg4834 Год назад
I think it will be interesting when Mahomes reaches a point in his career when he has only his wits to rely on. Mahomes athleticism will carry him for a long ways no doubt. I can't wait to see what Mahomes is doing at the age of 45. That's when I'll make my objective appraisal of who's the superior QB
@rashadmccoy5403
@rashadmccoy5403 Год назад
Records Are Made To Be Broken. People Thought The Bulls 72-10 Record Wouldn't Get Broken, Until The Warriors Went 73-9
@mickser101
@mickser101 Год назад
@@rashadmccoy5403 you honestly think Mahones will beat 35 Playoff wins and 88 Playoff Tds with the way he plays. Rodgers and montana have 45 Tds and montana has 16 playoff wins Not a chance of it happening
@kilanwilliams7276
@kilanwilliams7276 Год назад
@@mickser101Pat already about to pass Rodgers. He has 35 tds already. Mahomes and Rodgers both have 11 postseason wins. Montana 16. If Mahomes stays healthy he’s passing Montana and Rodgers. He can pass Brady in tds idk about wins. Gotta remember Mahomes has only played 5 years. Montana career is done Rodgers career is almost over. Nobody has had a start like this
@shakir3375
@shakir3375 Год назад
He took a sip before responding 🤣🤣🤣
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Год назад
It’s too early to have that conversation, but he’s on the right path though.
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
Way too early. Reckoning will come. It's hard work to beat Brady. What about his injury? Not healed. What else will this bring him? Availability is a requirement.
@michaelmoorekingmoore4391
@michaelmoorekingmoore4391 Год назад
That's all that needs to be said. Patrick is going to be great regardless. Get ready for his continuing greatness because I certainly am😊😊😊
@benitovandermerwe4066
@benitovandermerwe4066 Год назад
Brady won 3 Superbowls in 5 years without Hall of Fame receivers. Thats like this years Giants minus Saquon
@moheganson
@moheganson Год назад
4 years
@moheganson
@moheganson Год назад
And only QB to win 3 💍 before age 28 Also only QB to win 💍 first year as starter ‘01, ‘03, 04
@titomoney13
@titomoney13 Год назад
From Shannon Sharpe “ At the end of the day, did you win the ultimate prize that your sport has to offer?” I don’t want to hear another word about “ Goat James” after that quote!!!
@ladonnaedge9161
@ladonnaedge9161 Год назад
Joe Montana... Never lost
@infernoglobalsuperstar9995
@infernoglobalsuperstar9995 Год назад
LeBron has 4 NBA rings .
@titomoney13
@titomoney13 Год назад
@@infernoglobalsuperstar9995 And 6 failed attempts at the other ones!
@MJohnJordan
@MJohnJordan Год назад
It's too early to be having GOAT conversations about Patrick Mahommes.
@dominushydra
@dominushydra Год назад
Yep
@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178 Год назад
Its not when mahomes is litteraly already the goat lmaooo goofy shut up
@lovehate8286
@lovehate8286 Год назад
Agreed. But right now, he’s top 3 ever.
@goofy_xf6223
@goofy_xf6223 Год назад
@@lovehate8286 facts! It’s goes: Manning, Greaton: in his own tier as the QB GOD. 1: Brady 2: Montana 3: Mahomes Manning is the true goat and will never be compared to 🤷🏿‍♂️
@legitdragon6202
@legitdragon6202 Год назад
'Are we sure he's even the greatest right now?? Are we sure it isn't Josh Alle - wait... Joe Burr... wait... Jalen Hur... wait...' 😂
@Xervello
@Xervello Год назад
At this point in their careers, Brady had yet to lose in the playoffs (he won his first eleven playoff games!), had three rings and two super bowl MVPs. HOW exactly is Mahomes ahead of Brady again? Because he already has two regular season MVPs? We're using Aaron Rodgers standards now, lol.
@1JAM229
@1JAM229 Год назад
It's not Aaron Rodgers' standards when Mahomes has twice as many rings as Aaron does already. Not to mention the Tuck Rule saved Brady in his first game. He should've had one more loss and three fewer victories. 💯
@Xervello
@Xervello Год назад
@@1JAM229 Mahomes was bailed out by two game ending calls in the championship game and the super bowl. You can't fault one and ignore the other.
@clozvega1423
@clozvega1423 Год назад
@@Xervellopreach! 😂 These band wagoners be delusional sometimes
@fart7505
@fart7505 Год назад
@@clozvega1423 Mahomes is your daddy lol
@humblebeast2706
@humblebeast2706 Год назад
It’s a team a sport simple . It’s always people who never played ball makes these type of points. There’s no way you’re going to say Brady is majority of the credit for the first three rings STOP IT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Y’all are insecure and know the truth . The eyes don’t lie Mahomes will be the better QB when it’s all set and done .
@TPhunkay
@TPhunkay Год назад
The 'yac sip at the beginning was epic haha
@_KITE
@_KITE Год назад
It's too early. He would need at least five rings to start the conversation, six to be taken seriously. He would need eight to be the GOAT over Tom, and even then, 2021 would be a big stain on his resume.
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
👌💯👍🙋‍♀️
@Re_simurgh
@Re_simurgh Год назад
Ameeeeeennnn
@LASAGNA_LARRY
@LASAGNA_LARRY Год назад
Even if Mahomes gets 7, he still would have lost the head-to-head Super Bowl against Brady in 2020… Mahomes is basically Lebron 2.0 chasing Jordan. He has the best chance of catching him, but will he?
@polpol1005
@polpol1005 Год назад
nah rings are overrated, it's a team sport
@juanrolandodelarosa1550
@juanrolandodelarosa1550 Год назад
Nah, if he gets 2 more he’s the goat, he’s never had as good a team as Brady and he’s way more talented
@comebackkid5976
@comebackkid5976 Год назад
At 28 Brett farve had a ring been to 2 SBs and had 3 MVPs just let it breathe
@kcmo8164
@kcmo8164 Год назад
You said “been” not won 2 and played in 3
@TheCapn23
@TheCapn23 Год назад
And at 27 Mahomes won 2 SBs, 2 SB MVPs, and 2 regular season MVPs. Mahomes has far surpassed Favre.
@comebackkid5976
@comebackkid5976 Год назад
@@TheCapn23 he has not far surpassed I didn’t say mahomes wasn’t great im saying we have seen an early start like this let the guy have his career
@mattfratamico670
@mattfratamico670 Год назад
@@comebackkid5976 not sure why the above comments didn’t get your point. Between 1995-1997, Brett favre won 3 MVPs and made 2 Super Bowls. You’d think at that pace he’d have made a lot more Super Bowls and contended for additional MVPs, but it never happened (albeit, I think he had a case for mvp in 2009). Careers are never guaranteed.
@comebackkid5976
@comebackkid5976 Год назад
@@mattfratamico670 thank you that’s all I’m saying let the guy have his career. We can never just enjoy what we are seeing now. Whe always feel the need to project and compare.
@seanparker6143
@seanparker6143 Год назад
Shannon will say anything to diminish Bradys career! Mahomes was given the AFC championship game and the SB win...just stop it!!! Ignorance is all you spew shannon..
@CBrown
@CBrown Год назад
Waaaaay too early to be having that conversation. We need to look back on his career and see what he's done but I think he has an excellent chance, whether he wins as many rings or not. If the NFL looks anything like it did this year he's in line for another MVP run.
@Superdank87
@Superdank87 Год назад
You knew as soon as Unc took that sip, he was ready 🤣🤣🤣
@ShutThePuck
@ShutThePuck Год назад
Too early to have this conversation, we all saw this happen with LeBron, they tried too hard to force the conversation after he won 2 and was 2-2, he ended up going 2-4 in the next 6, let it play out, GOAT is a high bar
@tomrod1949
@tomrod1949 Год назад
Lebron ended up being better
@abc_12333
@abc_12333 Год назад
Jordan was called the GOAT after 3 rings. So being this early is not unusual.
@zerokewl951
@zerokewl951 Год назад
Tom was the MVP for that Carolina Super Bowl
@henry7765
@henry7765 Год назад
Bill Belichick tape the walk-through which ultimately end up benefiting Brady.
@stephanea5364
@stephanea5364 Год назад
@@henry7765 Refs benefited Mahomes yesterday
@henry7765
@henry7765 Год назад
@@stephanea5364 Refs benefit Brady since the tuck Rule and against the Chiefs in the afc championship game
@shivamparekh7486
@shivamparekh7486 Год назад
Verse the Eagles, Deion Branch won MVP. I think people come to these two for entertainment not the facts lol.
@heenapatel5024
@heenapatel5024 Год назад
​​@@stephanea5364 refs benefited Mahomes in AFC championship game as well against Bengals
@shawnarnold9972
@shawnarnold9972 Год назад
Only flaw with comparing super bowls and MVPs at this point is that super bowls are won on the field while MVPs are voted on and quite a few times the deserving player was looked over. The only one here that is an absolute is the super bowl victory.
@jarodburns9009
@jarodburns9009 Год назад
No one is ever going to touch Brady's career...GOAT for life,!
@dms_179
@dms_179 9 месяцев назад
^
@txzerone4195
@txzerone4195 Год назад
too early to compare the two right now but i do think patrick mahomes can catch tom. just from the eye test he’s already the best qb i’ve ever seen talent wise and if he can get the accolades no doubt you can make a case.
@willkittwk
@willkittwk Год назад
Wait till he's got 5 under his belt.
@lycanthropic1122
@lycanthropic1122 Год назад
Most versatile, but I think Rodgers in his prime edges him out in arm talent.
@txzerone4195
@txzerone4195 Год назад
@@lycanthropic1122 agreed
@mhaiyaaj
@mhaiyaaj Год назад
W’ll talk after his 6th Super Bowl win. Until then absolutely NO. Usually a great running QB are out of the league after 7 to 10 years due to injuries.
@dominushydra
@dominushydra Год назад
Yep.
@tomrod1949
@tomrod1949 Год назад
Team stats. Mahomes peak is wayyy higher than brady's
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
I agree. Mahome's path will be rocky to beat Tom Brady. How long he'll play and whether he'll stay healthy is anyone's guess. This also applies to other QB's.
@dominushydra
@dominushydra Год назад
@@tomrod1949 what?
@tomrod1949
@tomrod1949 Год назад
@@dominushydra brady's never won an MVP and superbowl mvp in the same year. Also has less mvps than peyton and rodgers
@kalvinreese8387
@kalvinreese8387 Год назад
Good content thanks for the upload
@ssstuart0039
@ssstuart0039 Год назад
Damn . Two weeks ago we were talking about if burrow is better than mahomes. Lol
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
That's the way it is these days. Then Mahomes comes into the SB and wins and everything that was 2 weeks ago goes into oblivion. The cards are reshuffled every year. When you see what happened to Purdy. Injury, prolonged absence. What counts is the performance of the entire active sporting time. In that regard, Tom Brady is unbeatable..
@sread833
@sread833 Год назад
Just stop with that nonsense. He has a long way to go and Hurt IMO was the MVP of the SB as he had an historic performance.
@maharajaramzan4211
@maharajaramzan4211 Год назад
Eagles fan here but congrats to Mahomes, Reid and the rest of the Chiefs helluva game!
@mq1059
@mq1059 Год назад
Thanks man, chiefs fan here. I felt you guys got done dirty with the penalty, but Jalen Hurts won me over. You've guys have got yourself a qb for the future, i've got jalen winning a super bowl or 2 with philly
@Notorious224
@Notorious224 Год назад
You guys did the best u could against a dynasty team
@TopViralMiX
@TopViralMiX Год назад
tom brady won it for every teams hes been on kinda like lebron winning championship for anyteam you put lebron on so you can’t even say it was the team. mahomes only has proven it for this specific team with a beast lineup
@spacemoose4726
@spacemoose4726 Год назад
Mahomes is as close to Brady in championships today as he was the day he was drafted. He's literally had the greatest 5 year start to a career in NFL history and made zero ground on Brady so far.
@myrum2844
@myrum2844 Год назад
The Mahomes meat riders are actually sick 🤣
@tylerriley5976
@tylerriley5976 Год назад
Facts lol. Like he’s a beast no doubt and he’s gonna make the hall of fame, but can we get at least 10 years of play first lol
@jake96ist
@jake96ist Год назад
@@tylerriley5976you just seen the first 6 lol you’ll see more of the same the next 4.
@jarvyjarvis1042
@jarvyjarvis1042 Год назад
@@jake96ist NFL building him up to be the next Brady and nothing we can do about it lol
@GregBry3
@GregBry3 Год назад
Hurts had the better game. Phillys defense has been shaky for months.
@AsTro35
@AsTro35 Год назад
I think what will ultimately decide it is that Brady had 2 separate dynasties in 2 basically different eras and the 2nd one was at an age where everyone said him and the Patriots were done, Mahomes is for sure gonna go down as a top 2 all time QBs ever
@peskypesky
@peskypesky Год назад
Too early to say that. Mahomes needs 2 more Super Bowl wins.
@AsTro35
@AsTro35 Год назад
@@peskypesky Mahomes with 2 is already a top 5 QB ever lol 1 more puts him in the top 3 and he’s definitely not 3 or 1 lol
@ajf5324
@ajf5324 Год назад
A lot points to him never catching Brady besides the fact that Brady always beat him head to head including with the Patriots in a afc championship game and IN AN ACTUAL SUPERBOWL while brady was on a team for the first year, in a covid year.
@AnthonyY55
@AnthonyY55 Год назад
I’m sorry but I don’t think we’ll see anyone in our lifetime dominate the game like Tom did from the QB position. I’m a Steelers fan and even I knew you have to go through Tom to get there.
@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178 Год назад
Shut up lmaooo mahomes is already better then brady 😭🤷🏽‍♂️ yall fanboys are wild frfr
@Oldemail337
@Oldemail337 Год назад
@@yaboisoe178 he may be better as a QB talent but all time? You’re crazy
@ckaiborbor
@ckaiborbor Год назад
Every year Mahomes has started the AFC Championship is in KC. Five straight seasons. Every loss had to come in OT. He is the definition of “you have to go through me”.
@AnthonyY55
@AnthonyY55 Год назад
@@yaboisoe178 If you talking about talent obviously. But other than that no Brady Dominated the AFC consistently. And did it without top tier talent at the WR position.
@AnthonyY55
@AnthonyY55 Год назад
@@ckaiborbor I can promise you that Joe Burrow will have something to say about that. Although Tom had to face Peyton he dominated Peyton in the playoffs bro.
@demon-mi2ho
@demon-mi2ho Год назад
It's a passing league that's why you see him with incredible stats. Brady played in 2000's were it was more a defensive league. Then 2010s its a passing league.
@moheganson
@moheganson Год назад
Brady also had to go through Peyton
@ladonnaedge9161
@ladonnaedge9161 Год назад
Joe Montana... Never lost
@manav374
@manav374 Год назад
@@ladonnaedge9161 bro had a super team all 4x
@moheganson
@moheganson Год назад
@@manav374 So Did Manning Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison, ,Reggie Wayne, all Hall of Famers... Brady had a revolving door of guys off the street aside for Moss for two seasons and Gronk His best WR was a college QB Literally he's thrown a TD pass to 100 different players. Nobody did more with sub par offensive talent. Even Manning in Denver had a stacked teams. no wonder why Brady only has 3 regular season MVPs
@moheganson
@moheganson Год назад
@@manav374 and Mahomes has had a super offense too. Tom Brady first 4 7 years had troy brown, david givens, deion branch, no good running back (Dillon had one good year) you get the point. It wasn't until 2007 Brady finally got better talent around him but he still continued to win after 2011 losing Hernandez, Edelman became his best WR a former college QB Give Brady Mahomes offensive personel his first 5 seasons he'd have 2 leage MVPs at least with his 3 rings
@joeaiden4894
@joeaiden4894 Год назад
That last pass interference call was really suspect though. Seems like the NFL needs someone to be the new "Brady." Very suspicious call that's all.
@elliswilkerson8328
@elliswilkerson8328 Год назад
I said the same thing.
@brainiakuniversity
@brainiakuniversity Год назад
This happened to a young early career of Gretzky and Mesi and Griffey Jr. and Jordan and Tiger and Kobe and Lebron and Trout and now Mahomes. The GOAT comparisons come swift and frequently in this media age. It’s provocative
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
That's right 👍💯🙋‍♀️
@SteveSmith-br3vu
@SteveSmith-br3vu Год назад
No he won't. As soon as Reid leaves or Kelce dries up he's finally not going to be spoiled.
@legitdragon6202
@legitdragon6202 Год назад
Yep just like Tyreek leaving was going to 'expose' him.
@SteveSmith-br3vu
@SteveSmith-br3vu Год назад
@@legitdragon6202 I never said that hill leaving was going to expose him. Reids genius and Kelce existing were always more valuable than hill.
@tjayd1225
@tjayd1225 Год назад
Idk if he gets Brady’s Super Bowl count but he’s like the blend of Rodgers talent & Brady’s winning. Already top 5 all time
@sijdnsd6460
@sijdnsd6460 Год назад
I’ll go as far as #2 with this win. First QB since Kurt Warner to win MVP and Super Bowl MVP, won two rings in 4 years, has two league MVPS and two Super Bowl MVPS. Already second best. Just need 5 more rings to tie Tom. The only thing holding him back is that Mahomes is 2 and 3 while Tom is 3 and 3 at this point.
@dominushydra
@dominushydra Год назад
No
@zein9227
@zein9227 Год назад
This is one of the best descriptions I have read of him. Mahomes always reminded me of Brett Favre but as of late he looks more and more like Aaron. To me, prime Aaron (2011; 2020) is still the bar against the greatest skillsets and talents are measured and Pat is really up there with him.
@Invictus-Solaris
@Invictus-Solaris Год назад
@@sijdnsd6460 you’re delusional. Were you born yesterday? So he can have a mediocre career for the next 15yrs and you’d still have him as #2!?
@stuntrrr
@stuntrrr Год назад
lmao shannon's pause at the beginning
@123ROCKBOYX
@123ROCKBOYX Год назад
It's insane how underrated and underappreciated Tom Brady has become. This is probably the most controversial hot take in the history of Undisputed comment section, but imo Tom Brady is the GOAT.
@kimjonghyun3471
@kimjonghyun3471 Год назад
Nobody said Brady not the undisputed goat. There debating if mahomes can catch up. He’s off to a better start for first 5 years so the question is definitely valid and would be insult to mahomes to not have the “can he” talk.
@jpiii8887
@jpiii8887 Год назад
In what world do you live in where Tom Brady isn't considered the GOAT? As long as we measure QBs by numbers and Super Bowl wins, he'll likely never be surpassed in our lifetime, at least in the eyes of the general football fan or analyst. Yes, people who saw the likes of Montana or Marino in person, or ANY EXISTING GM who would most certainly draft Mahomes over Brady if both were cloned and placed in the 2023 class, might occasionally suggest otherwise. However, Brady is the GOAT by the standards of measurement we use to rate NFL greatness.
@xbolt678
@xbolt678 Год назад
Mahomes said himself he wouldn't call them a dynasty yet. He's on track to have a very, very impressive career. I mean, we forget how impressive it is to have more than one SB bc Brady set the bar to such a level, but Peyton for all of his excellence is now matched by Patrick in just 5 seasons. He's on pace to do as needed, but it's still a bit early for that convo imo. He's definitely gonna end up top 3 (he's already top 5 at the very least) we'll see how far he takes it.
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Год назад
Let’s not forget Patrick did this on an obvious BAD ANKLE.
@businessbuilder92
@businessbuilder92 Год назад
Okay and?
@isaacyoung3698
@isaacyoung3698 Год назад
Well he clearly faked it in that game. Got exposed as a flopper.
@mr.castle
@mr.castle Год назад
@@isaacyoung3698 He sure faked. Lmao he was getting hid excuses ready..🤣🤣 After all that, the game gets close and all of the sudden that ankle was just fine.
@isaacyoung3698
@isaacyoung3698 Год назад
@@mr.castle right! 😂😂😂
@ladonnaedge9161
@ladonnaedge9161 Год назад
Joe Montana... Never lost
@untrillbo
@untrillbo Год назад
The difference between Tom and Mahomes is one had one of the best defensive minds of all time and the other has one of the greatest offensive minds of all time. If you don’t understand the difference of difficulty to achieve Qb greatness you don’t understand football.
@philwalters3579
@philwalters3579 Год назад
Tom won without Bill, Mahomes will likely never win without Andy Reid. One of the main reasons why Mahomes is so overrated, he's a system QB
@nickstah9184
@nickstah9184 Год назад
Exactly I never understood why they say Brady got Carried by his defense. Obviously Bellichick being a good defensive coach he is going to prioritize signing defensive talent on the offense and never really helped Brady on the offensive side besides gronk. The pats defense will never be bad cause BELLICHICK invested all his money into the defense, and Brady still balled out with all those Randoms on offense
@Malachi-Rhodes
@Malachi-Rhodes Год назад
@Nickstah Bill invested a lot into Brady's offenses. Moss, Welker, Gronk, Hernandez, Edelman, Corey Dillon, and the list goes on. STOP with this nonsense that Bill never gave Brady anything on offense.
@nickstah9184
@nickstah9184 Год назад
@@Malachi-Rhodes Hernandez got sent to prison, moss wasn’t there long term, Edelman was a product of Brady, the only person u named that was there long term and had talent was gronk. And even gronk was injured a lot and wasn’t always there for Brady and Brady’s best comeback against the falcons was without gronk. Nice job making 0 sense. He’s called Bellicheap for a reason. He’s so cheap and doesn’t go out and sign any superstars. You’re just an idiot making excuses for Brady’s lackluster supporting cast
@Malachi-Rhodes
@Malachi-Rhodes Год назад
@Nickstah Also Bill never put all his money into defense l because he understood that you couldn't win constantly with just a great defense. He invested into every part of the game.
@MaDFroG88
@MaDFroG88 Год назад
Those longevity records are hard to reach but it can be done if he stays healthy and the team is build properly around Mahomes!
@obiclark4071
@obiclark4071 Год назад
That sip tho🤣 Shannon a beast!
@tomanguyen
@tomanguyen Год назад
What was he drinking?
@obiclark4071
@obiclark4071 Год назад
@@tomanguyen his own taquila or cognac
@benstallone6784
@benstallone6784 Год назад
With the new rules that don't allow defense to breathe on the QB I think there is a good chance of Mahomes winning more super bowls.
@ryanpurplenintendoeater9869
especially when the defense can't touch the wr with out it being a holding call
@JermaineDurham
@JermaineDurham Год назад
we gon get it done quick
@philwalters3579
@philwalters3579 Год назад
Also one of the main reasons why Mahomes will never surpass past QBs, its just easier now
@user-df2uu3qp3y
@user-df2uu3qp3y Год назад
*patrick mahomes was a 10th overall pick. brady was a 199th overall pick.* *brady went from 199th pick to 7 times champions. he is forever the GOAT. no debate. next.*
@carol-us4xn
@carol-us4xn Год назад
It's not impossible for that to happen, it's still 💯 early in his career, so let him keep on pushing his skills and talents up the football field.
@tonylouis6072
@tonylouis6072 Год назад
Extremely premature, he has to pass Montana first
@dominushydra
@dominushydra Год назад
He has to pass Unitas, then Elway, then Manning, then Montana
@kylekea46
@kylekea46 Год назад
Brady won 3 and they were still saying he not better than Montana so mahomes has 2 so they need have same energy on him
@dominushydra
@dominushydra Год назад
Yep
@FKT12
@FKT12 Год назад
the problem with these versatile QB’s is that their prime level of play is impossible to maintain. Once they get a little older they get washed up. Im not saying that Mahomes wont reach Brady’s level, but unless he switches up his playing style, he’s more likely to be like Russell Wilson than Tom Brady 🤷🏽‍♂️
@HobocopV1
@HobocopV1 Год назад
At the 10:00 mark, does Shannon contradict himself from his earlier opinion about the holding call in last night's game?
@Growinggolfing
@Growinggolfing Год назад
I don’t care what anyone says. The AFC Championship game Brady played (and lost) against Manning with the Broncos is the single toughest qb performance there’s ever been. Brady took shots all game and stood in there. I couldn’t stand Brady, but after I watched that, I had to tip my cap.
@YamomzBB3
@YamomzBB3 Год назад
The beginning is hilarious😂
@medeiros3610
@medeiros3610 Год назад
I love watching that kid play but let’s face it, Patrick will be forgotten in 5 years lol
@kingovharts
@kingovharts Год назад
These sports analysts so obsessed with crowning somebody the Goat.
@dominushydra
@dominushydra Год назад
I'm no psychic, but Patrick Mahomes ain't winning 5 more Superbowls.
@levonverrett6052
@levonverrett6052 Год назад
I’m Just curious but if mahomes get 5 rings with 5 mvps and 5 Super Bowl mvp isn’t he than not still better because of those individuals stats and impact ? Like Russell got more rings than Jordan but still Jordan is the goat or some people argue LeBron but has lesser rings than Jordan so it also come to individual stats
@coooperbreeze8064
@coooperbreeze8064 Год назад
He doesn’t need to too become the goat
@chilldoc9638
@chilldoc9638 Год назад
@@levonverrett6052 Russell played with 8 teams too
@kcmo8164
@kcmo8164 Год назад
You prolly said he wouldn’t win yesterday also
@charliebandzino5111
@charliebandzino5111 Год назад
Skips last point has me dying ahhaha saying juju is a number 1 ahha
@demetriusjohnson2240
@demetriusjohnson2240 Год назад
As a Steelers fan I die of laughter
@charliebandzino5111
@charliebandzino5111 Год назад
@@demetriusjohnson2240 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@stephenbreen7570
@stephenbreen7570 Год назад
Sad to see Brady, Brees, Manning, Roethlisberger, Rivers and Flaco go. But the new batch of NFL QB's looks like will have plenty of great match-ups for years to come again. Mahomes looks like he'll probably be in the drivers seat of the new group.
@Porterhouse80
@Porterhouse80 Год назад
Wrong, Brady was MVP in SB 38 vs Carolina, it was the following year vs Philly in SB 39 that Deion Branch was named SB MVP.
@danbope5990
@danbope5990 Год назад
If they keep giving him games probably
@peskypesky
@peskypesky Год назад
😂😂
@simeonflake
@simeonflake Год назад
Good grief, these GOAT conversations spawned by the sports media for the last decade--if not longer--have gotten too ridiculous. I'm not a Mahomes hater, but let the dude at least put in a decade of work before the hyper-active press crowns him as the greatest thing since chicken soup, or the cure for the common cold. Remember when Rodgers won that Superbowl & he was the next Golden Boy who was going to challenge Montana and Brady--how did that work out. That's why I loathe these debates--the media is too determined to ride someone's nuts, or they leave too many legends out. Now, I'll just prepare for the next NBA debate where Bill Russell, Magic, Kareem, Kobe and Wilt are never mentioned & it's just LeBron and MJ.... 🙄🙄
@judithoberpaul509
@judithoberpaul509 Год назад
Absolutely right. I can just agree with it.
@Flexican510
@Flexican510 Год назад
As a 49ers Fan I will Say If Mahomes Wins another Within The Next 2 Years I Will Put Him In Mount Rushmore Of QBs, I Will Put Him Ahead of Joe Montana 🫣
@TexasBorn_TexasRaised
@TexasBorn_TexasRaised Год назад
If I was picking in the draft give me Patrick Mahomes over any other QB in the league from past to present
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