Will RTX 5090 Be Too Fast For Any Current CPU? 

Just replace the CPU with a GPU silly 🥰🥰

I need a 5090 for My 1080p monitor, like a fish needs a bicycle

What a world we live in where we are concerned that our GPUs have gotten so good we bottleneck the CPU at 4K high refresh rate. I remember when getting 1080p60 was the dream for high end hardware.

32" 4K/240hz OLED displays would be an obvious target for the 5090.

VR needs more power. Always. My 4090 isn't good enough for high resolution headsets in graphic intense games. The new headsets on the horizon with 3800x3800 resolution per eye will easily chew through the power of the next few generations of GPUs.

As a 4K/120 gamer I can promise you that we're still GPU limited with the 4090. I often have to compromise on AAA games by enabling DLSS 3 or lower settings, and sometimes just hit 60 FPS. At the same time, I do think upscaling is changing our requirements and expectations, so I hope the silicon can be optimized around that. We don't necessarily need more pixel shader performance if we assume upscaling. The die space is better spent on other features.

Diminishing returns at this point. Games are unoptimized that's the only reason why these ridiculously stupid specs are needed.

I'll only consider the 5090 if it puts my house at risk of burning down. If it can't do that then its not powerful enough.

[It's 2030, goes to buy RTX 9090 with all of my savings.] Me: Hey, you have latest GPU, May be RTX 9090. dealer: (goes inside and comes with a 8 feet server wrack.) here's Your GPU sir, just $100k dollars.

the 4090 is still hugely gpu limited in games like MSFS2020 in VR, and i expect 2024 to be utterly devastating in VR - and i'm all for it. We get closer and closer to Star Trek computer simulations every year.

There is always a bottleneck in a pc depending on the resolution and game settings. Doesn't matter if it's a $400 pc or a $4000 pc.

Alex said especially with RT it'll be CPU bound, because of the BVH workload. But what the next generation could offer is moving the BVH maintenance to the GPU alleviating a whole bunch of CPU work.

50%, 70%, or even double the power of 4090, as long as it's not melting it's connector it's fine by me

Parallelism is badly needed in many game engines, and modern consumer CPUs really need more cores. Single core performance uplift is too small to keep up anymore. More game engines need to adopt the strategy of running tasks in parallel, instead of just using a render thread, lighting thread, logic thread etc. Easier said than done, but it is the only real way forward.

Ampere didn't have price cuts of any kind, it maintained the price hikes of Turing.

I mean, 4k120 has to be on the table for most games. Even 4k90, throw on some DLAA, call it good. Aside from totally broken PC ports I feel like we're still GPU limited 99% of the time, especially if you have something like a 7800x3D.

Il ride my 4070 Super until next gen consoles drop. Thats when the jump to ai NPU's for gaming and other new features will push me to upgrade. Honestly its overkill for 1440p in the games i play at the moment.

Until it does triple 4K at 240Hz without DLSS or frame generation, there's always room for more. :) Whether there's enough of a market for that outside of the sim-racing and flight-sim niches, I don' tknow, but I'd buy one.

I will just use DLDSR + DLAA on a 4k 120 Hz TV/monitor. CPU won't be the limiting factor, and I'm always getting graphical upgrade. Add path tracing with maxed out settings and the GPU (even RTX 5090 TI Super) would scream for help. I just love DLDSR and how versatile it is for all type of games… Doesn't matter if I'm playing new or older titles.

Considering the 5090 will be $1700 at least, it needs to be twice as fast as the 4090 to be worth it.

Thankfully AMD have opened a door for us with X3D. CPUs finally start becoming useful for gaming with ultra high speed memory (e.g on-die cache).

At this point, graphics cards are a side-hustle for NVidia's primary business: AI infratructure.

Not if it burns your whole house down. Cant they design a better connector instead ?

My RTX 4090 GPU usage percentage is all over the place in 4K and in the Pimax Crystal (2x4K) with an i9-12900k. It never stays at 99% or even 98%. It usually varies from 100% to 80% constantly in 4K. My RTX 3080 usually stayed at 99% to 98% in 4K. In GPU-Z I’m now limited by Voltage and the limiting factor line is always blue instead of green. Even when I overclock my P-Cores to 52 and E-Cores to 40. My next PC upgrade may need to be the 14900ks.

I have an RTX 4090 the only way you would see me with a 5090 is if we can get 4K visuals with RT and can have at least 60 FPS rasterized performance no frame gen or DLSS.

GPUs are getting faster at a pace that CPUs can't quite keep up with. I have an RTX 3090 paired with a Ryzen 7 5800X 3D and in games with heavy ray tracing like Spider Man Remastered, my 3090 is CPU limited even at 1440p and to some degree at 4K. I am itching a CPU upgrade right now way more than a GPU upgrade, my 3090 is still fine. I am looking to upgrade to a 9800X 3D when it comes out.

The thing I'd be hoping for on a RTX 5090 would be two 8 pin power connectors and a return to more sane power consumption. More/faster VRAM would be nice too as I feel that that has been the RTX 4090's bottleneck, especially at 4K. Other grab bag of features would be the return of nvLink/SLI support to scale up via multi-GPU and integrating some Thunderbolt 5 controllers. It'd be nice to be able to plug a USB-C monitor directly into the GPU without external cabling and get full USB support on the display and other peripherals connected to it. Similarly with Thunderbolt 5, it'd be clever to include a mode where you could use the GPU externally for a laptop without the need for a Thunderbolt bridge board in an external chassis. Literally just the card, power supply and a power switch to turn it on. The PCIe slot connector would go unused.

I would honestly not mind if it would be too fast or even more power efficient with the new architecture, because I would mainly use the card like that for rendering purposes.

That's why we need an ARM/Risk architecture as soon as possible.

Once you hit certain quality-experience performance thresholds in gaming, it doesn't matter & becomes overkill for the sake of giggles. It only matters to professional bench markers & internet braggarts.

The 9800x3d will be able to handle it. Nothing else will though.

VR Performance would be one thing looking at the like of devices like Pimax 8K and 12K HMD's sure can burn some GPU Time (and CPU), ofcourse AI - maybe AI api for gaming use and the bethought PhysiX return and ever more RTX (even in VR).

Cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing in VR using VorpX/Luke Ross with a render resolution of ~10000x5000 at 90+ Hz would probably break the 5090 Ti Egregious Super too. Maybe when 8090 TiTi Super Duper comes around.

The CPU side is interesting cause CPU limitations seem to be universal to all modern CPU. Like pretty much every major release will either run perfectly fine on the now iconic 3600 or if it's struggling on that it's struggling on everything. Havinh a faster CPU with more threads seem to not make much of a difference at this point. Most modern CPU don't look in any inherent danger of being underpowered for the job. It's just game developers struggling to get to grips with the multithreading and that affects all modern CPUs pretty much just as badly.

"Hi guys exclamation point" LOL Dafuq! That was hilarious.

it's all about VR.. 50x0 series will be the first that's really capable of full immersion hq hi-res VR.

well the 9800x3d should be releasing soon once the 5090 launches

Rich is a gem.

The problem is x86, no matter how low level your API is, you still have to run everything through the CPU due to how the PCI bus works. Basically we would need a bypass of some sort akin to what AGP did.

I use an RTX 3090 right now and I would actually be interested in upgrading if they would start making mini versions of GPU's again. The 40XX series (and AMD's 7900 series) are all gigantic and since I build ITX rigs, they're just not interesting to me. But imagine if they used the smaller processor nodes to keep the performance the same and instead used the node advantage to shrink GPU's. One can dream.

There is no problem keeping a gpu bussi with pathtracing. More samples...more bounces...until we reach unbiased territory

Honestly maybe a slight increase in performance from a 4090 but with much more efficiency would be awesome. Imagine 4090 level performance at only 200 watts for example, it would be crazy!

I just hope Ill be able to afford 5000 series cards. And to be able to fit it into my tiny case

I wonder if an ASIC on the GPU would be able to compile shaders on the fly, provided a new API is exposed for that.

I mean with power GPU power comes more scope to add VFX, textures, higher resolutions, frames, VR etc.

Ehat i want is a 240hz 4k CRT

AAA titles at 4k with rt on will be the sweet target for 5090

The optical GPU is just around the corner. So is the optical CPU 10K times faster than we have now.

i play dcs and msfs2020 with a 12900k and 4090 in VR and i can get the fps i want and then it's all a matter of turning knobs for how much visual quality you want and visual quality makes you gpu limited so .... for me a 5090 would probably help

CPUs are lightyears ahead against GPUs on 4k res and above (VR).

Nice conversations, but did they really answer the question? I think the user was asking that how can the most powerful consumer graphics card money can buy really enhance gaming experiences when we also need equally powerful CPU performance to make this happen which often causes choking on the GPU? I mean I can name a plethora of things video games are lacking today that REALLY need improvements to improve experiences compared to what we have had for the past decade or two, with some being physics in real-time(this will always need improvements), real-time water physics(this is EXTREMELY held back and limited because of limitations in CPU calculations), 3-D volumetric special effects(I believe this is GPU focused and CPU focused) as well as robotic NPC's that suck you out of immersion(this is heavily CPU needed as well), so point being we can have these powerful GPU's but if video game experiences don't improve we are stuck with the same mediocre gameplay with shiny polished graphics at 556 FPS. Also VR, to me at least, IS the absolute FUTURE OF GAMING, being able to actually transport yourself into these incredible worlds, and that requires much more powerful hardware both GPU and CPU. My hope though is that solutions are found to fix these concerns and allow developers to have more fun creating games and not be limited constantly by hardware. PS5 was really exciting when it released because of the way they saw SSD's bottlenecking a lot of freedom for developers, and they found a solution that even pushed outwards into the PC SSD market as well since most PC SSD's at that time weren't hitting speeds PS5 was because of I/O throughput issues. My hope is Cerny and his amazing team come up with bottleneck solutions for improving CPU performance, allowing more efficient multithread performance in games that will stretch out into the industry and become standard you know? And I imagine Ai will also assist in numerous ways with improving performance, user experience and helping developers make games more polished and advanced. SO exciting to think about...

I have Samsung Odessa g8 4K 240hz . I’m running i9 14k 3090 TI I’m hitting 140 fps on ultra settings on story games and on fps like cod and apex low setting I peak to 240 hz and once you get used to 4K good luck going back to low resolution

high end VR-oriented features? not melting?

People getting GPU limited in 95% of their games: ... The same people getting CPU limited in the remaining 5%, of which only 1% actually results in a sub 100fps framerate: OH NO I'M CPU BOTTLENECKED!!

Lazy optimization,makes hardware upgrades a must,look at mgsv fox engine can run on old cpus

CPUs only bottleneck at low resolution/high refresh rates. Just means that when it's time to upgrade the CPU, I won't have to worry about updating the GPU (future proofing).

Just get a G9 57" monitor or any other 4K+ monitor. You'll instantly be GPU bound again.

7800x3D is rarely being used above 50-60% in games using the 4090. (at 4k) I dont think it will bottleneck the 7800x3D when it comes to gaming at all. Will still be an amazing CPU for it.

Can't wait for games to be even less optimized and just throw a 5070 ti at the recommended specs

Will the i9 14900k be able to work well with a 5090 even at 35000 watts?

Improvements are probably gonna be modest, both in software and in hardware. More interpolated frames is not bad, but it's in the marginal gains category. I see a couple of fronts where they could make progress, though most of this probably won't come with Blackwell. Generated predicated frames. Instead of interpolating real frames, the next is simply predicated. This get's rid of the latency issue. A more integrated neural rendering approach. Lot's deep learning powered NPCs in games.

No it’s not, gaming in 4K with Ray Tracing even with DLAA or DLSS is the most beautiful graphics I’ve ever seen and that’s just with my 3090. With a 5090 I can turn off DLSS and go Native and still get spectacular FPS.

maybe not if the GPU of the 5090 is used to take AI calculations from the CPU, like it did with PhysX. It could well max out the htz of 1080p and 1440p, but 4k is getting to 144hz

I love questions like this because they assume on some level that large companies (Nvidia, AMD, Microsoft, Intel etc) wouldn't be thinking about bottlenecks or be actively working on developing new ways to utilize cutting edge hardware.

I'd love to see less power draw - not gonna happen, lower price - not going to happen, thinner - not gonna happen so that leaves about 4 times the ray tracing performance - probably not gonna happen.

' 4K screens coming online now... ' rofl as if they haven't already been released by a year or two.

My 4090 is already CPU limited in basically all games (and very CPU limited in many of my favorite games) but I play at 1440.

I have no idea why they are talking about 1080p, it is a GPU designed and designed for 4k or more and in those resolutions it is very clear that it will not have problems with current generation processors even with its mid-range whether it is 7600 or I5, hi From Venezuela !!

What are they going to do after the 9090 comes out will it be the 10k90

I think it's too hard to tell. On 4k probably not, lower res though, maybe But next gen of cpus is also looking great.

I'm getting ready to add a new CPU to my 4090 before adding a 6090 to my next CPU.

Best current pairing for a 5090 will be the 7800x3d. its only like 300 bucks and the am5 platform is gonna be around for a few more years, we'll get a more compatible one at some point in the future, no use wasting the extra 300 on a 7950. or wasting 700 on having to replace an intel board and cpu.

Frame gen is like margarine gaming. I like real butter.

The current 4080 and 4090 are already bottlenecked by current cpu’s, hyper threading and e cores are total bs

The problem still remains lack of multi threaded optimization in games. Modern CPUs just cant fix the fundimental nature of games being programmed to rely highly on a single thread . It would be in Nvidias best interest to explore the use of AI to potentially solve this issue. Else there is little reason to scale much beyond a 4090 without a miracle in single threaded cpu performance.

games use to be gpu bound, over the past few years, now they are both cpu and gpu, impressive regression in developing games

Any performance gain from cpu, and gpu is always a gain. Now old age questions, how much people willing to pay for that little or a lot of gain?

If they rush a 2024 launch, I will wonder more about 4090 owners needing to upgrade. Normally, there is some big, melts your PC (no pun) game that calls for the upgrade, but the only one I can see that might gain from a 5090 is Stalker 2. I would have thought a mid-2025 would have been better.

1440p 32:9 ultra widescreen at 240 hz is the goal

I wish my games will be cpu limited when I get a RTX 5090 to use on my Neo G9 S57 with 7680x2160 @ 240hz😅 So here you have a real usecase.

$2500 for +15% max over 4090.

A Geforce RTX 3060 is right at home with an old i7-4790 especially when playing games in 4K so a 5090 would be right at home with either a 13th/14th generation i9 or Ryzen 9 7950X/7950X3D.

I play @1080p and have an i9 13900k and a 3080... I have no issues with any modern game and prob wont for another couple of years at least lol... The 5090 would be insane for me haha...

U know what's gonna happen? Nvidia be like, so guys can't keep with us huh? We gonna design our own CPU! That's _exactly_ what happened to Intel. Apple be like, get you $hit together or we going our own way. Now we have M1/2/3 and soon 4. Watch Intel/AMD stocks TUMBLE when Nvidia announce their own CPU!!! AMD/Intel better get their $hit together.

No, i use VR on ACC and with my 4090 still cant run 100% resolution. I need the 5090

The thing of expecting the game developer to code DX12 code to the CPU to handle GPU tasks better has an issue. 1 major one right now of right now DX12 is a wrapper but to code for what they are talking about the wrapper will have to change and the change will mean limited CPU support. Even in the same SKU might not be supported if they do it wrong and remove to much of the wrapper to get to the CPU to say to let the GPU do GPU to itself not GPU to CPU to call the GPU thing. There are so many ways it can be messed up there is a reason why the API was made. Yes not using it is quicker just coding for the CPU whiich is part of what DX12 will allow you to do is a thing. It is a think i think was made for the datacenter not the consumer. Like .net games it contains both data center parts and consumer parts. In the data center you know the CPU model in every server as you can go look it up to know what to put into the code. For games you have literally millions of possiable CPUs that might be in the system. So saying the game will only work on this gen of CPUs not the next not the before for this one will kill the game after that gen of CPU is no longer sold. So good idea good for the server market bad for the consumer market. Now the part you go through the DX12 wrapper for is slower than it allowing you direct access to the hardware. How much slower? 1 to 100 cycles slower which isn't that much when you figure in the CPU is usually doing nothing waiting on another part of data to be sent to it. This part is used as the code doesn't have to be for that CPU but any x86 CPU. Yes there is a slow down but with all APIs you have a slow down. The RTX 5090 will most likely be bottlenecked by the coding not the CPU. When in a pure GPU load the RTX 5090 will most likely be bottleneck by the PCI gen 4 x16 speed not the CPU. Better coding is needed but easily readable by humans coding is what is taught in schools. So the compiler used doesn't always make the objective best binary output. What is used like you know is the binary output that basically is a go there do this file.

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Honestly just stop it with this CPU nonsense. Unless you are competitive gaming at 120-240hz, a 3700X will be fine for 60fps for another 4-5 years.

Can it run Cyberpunk at 480hz 1440p? Cause that's gonna be my next monitor.

5090 needs a built in smoke detector above 12VHP cable.

No joke, just cashed in about 1,000,000 Marriott points for over $3,000 in Best Buy gift cards 😂 getting ready for the 5090

As someone with no interest in resolutions above 1440, and can personally perceive no benefit from frame rates above about 80… none of this bother me… at all.

Oh, I'm sure I can make a 5090 choke with PCVR.

This is a non issue at 4k when ryzen 9000 comes out, it is set ti improvw gaming 17,3% across the board

I’m gaming on 7680x2160 samsung g9 57” with 4090 and 7800x3d. I sure hope I can get more fps with the 5090.

It is unlikely that even the upcoming Intel Arrow Lake 15900K or AMD Ryzen 9 will be able to keep up with the RTX5090. Intel, in particular, will need to introduce its Novalake (16P core xxE core) with DDR6 RAM to support the RTX5090 ASAP .

Way to bring the energy boys.

I need it for my Minecraft shaders

Depends on your target framerate obviously. Also not everyone likes the DLSS reconstruction techniques specifically in motion. A 5080 is probably going to be my upgrade from a 3080.

I’d be most interested in how much quicker 5090 renders in blender than the 4090. My 3090 still takes forever in highly detailed projects.