Will this old Bovet chronograph be wearable again?

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Today we have a 1940's Bovet chronograph on the bench and boy is this watch in need to some love. The case is very badly beaten up and will need a lot of work. But what about the dial?
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@Thecompanioncrate 2 года назад

Good decision leaving the dial, at first I thought it was somewhat unfortunate the level of staining, but in the restored case it looks quite attractive, especially since the staining is on the edges and not the center. Also even if you reprinted the dial it would be more likely than not they could "cheap out" and use a similar enough looking font that didn't match perfectly.

@davidkelsey2864 Год назад

I love the dial like that. It looks like an old manuscript and the refinished case and new strap make a feature of it. Nice!

@roberttaylor2525 Год назад

I THINK THE DIAL SHOULD BE REFINISHED IF POSSIBLE.

@slashdotism 2 года назад

This is definitively a cool little Chronograph. I recently came across a Bovet from the late 40s in the same style but with a vertical chronograph arrangement. I believe it had a Venus 170 movement and not the Landeron.

@denvernow7294 2 года назад

I can't believe I fell for your picture. I tried to flick it off my phone screen 🧐🤣

@adrianbirkett594 2 года назад

That was great Stian, thanks. Dials are a thing for me, meaning I love old dials but some dials have just crossed a line and are too bad to use. Consider how many times you look at the dial, for me it must look pleasing to the eye. Lovely watch and well done. 👍

@john-paulsilke893 2 года назад

This dial for me is borderline. If it was swapped for new or kept as is I’d be equally happy.

@billbliss7407 2 года назад

Just my opinion -- if you're OK with re-luming and "aging" then hands, you should be OK with restoring a dial. Either it's original, or it's not. That said -- a poorly restored dial is a travesty.

@MrLukealbanese 2 года назад

For some reason that heavy patina really seems to work with those 40s and 50s Chronographs IMO. Great work Stian.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Luke! I'd say that attributing the look of this dial entirely to patina would be like reading a real estate ad saying an apartment is "cozy". You know it's a bit worse than that 😂 But I still think the dial is better kept than refinished.

@MrLukealbanese 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@da___man Год назад

I think these vintage watches should be treated like vintage cars. Try to keep it as stock as possible, but when needed replace or fix or repaint.

@tazmaniachill 2 года назад

Thanks for another upload, just love your narration and skill… super Sunday, a beer and video 👍

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

😁👍

@cliffmolz8719 2 года назад

Brilliant as always. I liked the Patina on the dial and I don't think it should be restored. However, maybe I missed it, but did you take a swab and lightly go over the dial with some water to ensure all of the grime was taken off? If not, why just out of curiosity? Keep up the great videos!!

@ricktimmons458 2 года назад

i prefer the original dial cleaned up as much as one can.

@modergav 2 года назад

Oh great another watch restoring channel for to so subscribe and bunge watch! Love the work you did on the Bovet! A little bit of criticism though: your voice over is great and informative, but your monotone tend to be tiresome at times. Other than that i truly enjoyed the video. Keep doing what you do and tou set ahaha

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks for the sub!

@RobbyB-Poppin 2 года назад

My grandmother was a Sandvik from Tromso Norway. I quite enjoy your narration and accent my friend.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

😊👍

@c4t4l4n4 2 года назад

I noticed that while you were lubricating the stones on the pallet fork @ 20:05 , the pinion and jewel had some slack in them. A little later I also noticed that the jewel seemed to rotate when the watch runs (on closer inspection, it could have been the pallet fork's reflection). Is that normal, or an indication of wear? Is there enough "meat" left on the case were the strap pins are seated? Looks like a couple of holes are well worn.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hello Richard, some of the lug holes are indeed very thin and I'll have them laser welded before selling the watch. The pallet jewels are not loose, that would have shown up in the timegrapher readout also. It's probably a reflection or it might be due to these pallet jewels being transparent?

@furzkram 2 года назад

Couldn't adding a new ultra thin layer of varnish over the dial keep the old layer from reformating more?

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

It could indeed, but there's also a pretty significant risk of the varnish not being uniformly distributed due to the varying wear of the dial. Watch dials are very complicated to do much with...

@clivesouthafrica2086 2 года назад

Although the dial is quite damaged it is still legible. Some will find it has its own appeal as is. Doing much else to it would be very difficult, almost certainly noticeable and look "artificial". The strap you selected suited very well and the end result was quite wearable, notwithstanding the dial condition. Great job.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks a lot, Clive! Still a couple of matters I need to address before being comfortable selling the watch, but we'll get there :)

@autodidact537 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices Do you clean the watch face at all?

@xlerb2286 2 года назад

The nice thing about not refinishing the dial now is that it's still possible to do something with it later if need be. For my part I feel that refinishing just subtracts from the history of the item. I'd rather see the dings and bruises.

@walther9161 2 года назад

Fossil ruined the significance of an unfinished original dial when they mass produced dials that looked old and patinated..

@1959Berre 2 года назад

It always makes me kind of sad to see a dial in very bad condition, especially after spending so much time and effort on overhauling the rest of the case. Unfortunately, there is no alternative than to let it be (Lennon & McCartney). Ruining the dial would be unforgivable. Finding a donor dial might save the day, if ever possible.

@john-paulsilke893 2 года назад

An old dial can look pretty cool, but if it’s rough enough that’s pretty sad.

@CaptainRon1913 2 года назад

What do you mean makes you "sad"? You really that emotional over a friggin watch dial?

@john-paulsilke893 2 года назад

@@CaptainRon1913 I think you know what he means. It’s a bit of a waste of time taking all the time and effort to do such a great job, only to fall short 2ft from the finish line. However swapping a dial is generally only a 15 minute job and doesn’t require a great deal of skill as long as you have both the patience and the tools. So in either case it really isn’t a big deal.

@dreamvisionary 2 года назад

I really like the aged look of the dial. I would be happy to wear that watch.

@ditzydoo4378 2 года назад

I believe it looks stunning in it naturally aged appearance with the minimum finish natural leather strap. Bravo, bravo. ^~^

@jwoodyr1 2 года назад

Another fantastic video, Stian! Thanks for making and sharing it. Regarding the dial, I 100% agree with your decision to leave it alone. IMO, it looks perfect - awesome, really. Was the original lume radium? Is there some way to add material/strength to the case lugs where the spring bar holes are located? Those areas look thin to me. Thanks again!!!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hello Woody, thanks for watching! The lume wasn't radium, which honestly surprised me a bit, but the geiger counter didn't react at all to it. The lume cracked when I removed the hands though, so I had to relume them. And yes, the lug holes are too thin so I'll have to have them laser welded. Luckily a friend has a machine for it :)

@paulpietruszewski4226 2 года назад

Always I interesting videos. Just my perspective, that dial was a little far gone for my taste. I might have tried to carefully clean it or find a different one from the internet.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Paul! It's complicated indeed, as the dial cannot really be cleaned without damaging it and finding a replacement dial for a relatively exotic watch like this one is nearly impossible...

@paulpietruszewski4226 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices then you did what you needed to do which I completely understand. It just isn’t one I would add to a collection.

@medea27 Год назад

A beautiful watch! 👌 Love that you left the dial untouched as all that fine original detail would be lost with too much cleaning (and I'm not one for reprinting dials unless they are too far gone)... plus patina always looks gorgeous against a silver/steel/palladium case. Personal preference - I would have re-blued (if that's a word?!) the hands before putting the espresso-darkened lume in. I'm sure it's brighter to look at in real life (video colouration is never quite accurate!), but I always find deep blue hands look stunning on these vintage watches & give them that subtle, eye-catching element again.

@Whuntmore 2 года назад

At 26:30 you start to say about not finishing the dial, and then you say you reviewed this in another video... Which video?? I can't pair up what you've said with titles in your other videos. Can you put a link in the discription to the one you're referring please? thanks and great channel.

@ralphferrara5152 Год назад

Very nice job. Very intricate movement. I love the fact of the knowledge you have when explaining the history and parts of the movement. I enjoy watching your videos. Till the next one, have a great day. Oh, by the way, I enjoy your joking around with your funny comments. 👍😁

@denvernow7294 2 года назад

As a novice to these old and seemingly endless brands of chronographs, I'd love to pick up one, but do you have any suggestions as to which brands you believe are best for long term value and quality? Edit: I prefer something 36-41mm

@midaxsax Год назад

Fascinating video. My wife's father has the same exact model Bovet, even the serial number is close (same first 3 digits). It's not working, but the dial is in excellent condition, though the case is somewhat corroded. Can I ask what your fee is for the service you performed?

@EscapeReels 2 года назад

Hei Stian, bra video 👌 I think everything that needs to be said is already metioned by others, keeping the dial etc so I will not comment on that :) But, this is the first time I’ve seen a video from you and a have a suggestion; Upgrade your microphone!! 😅 Other than that, great work👌👌

@MarttiSuomivuori 2 года назад

Thank you! What an interesting story of an exquisite watchmaker. "Yellow snow" -do you have huskies where you live?

@bgdavenport 2 года назад

Refinishing anything vintage is controversial. There are those, myself included, who wish to restore objects as close to their original condition as possible. Both opposing viewpoints are valid. Even if I could afford it, I would not buy this Bovet because it looks awful. I am a watch consumer, not a collector.

@chuckburroughs6427 2 года назад

I love the dial the way it is. I don't even attempt to fix cracked or chipped dials in older(pre 1925) pocket watches I repair, unless the dial is pretty much non-existent, then I'll replace it. To me, replacing a dial like you have there would take all it's character away. It has history the way it is. That watch earned all of it's character, restoring too much just means it's "just another watch", and holds no interest.

@fscott1134 Год назад

NO! LIKE NeW is beautiful! I completely disagree with your approach.

@TheGreatTimSheridan Год назад

Wow crazy beautiful watch. But I think you should just mail out a big circle on the case back and put a sapphire window. It's got a beautiful movement

@slammermx 9 месяцев назад

You know what would be really cool, a lume shot of "before and after," in low light. Just wondering, I've noticed that restorations usually don't go as far as under the lugs, any reason?

@michaellawrence6677 2 года назад

Great job. Cleaning or modifying that watch face wouldn’t help. You’re showing off an old watch, let it be old.

@alexanderschmandin402 2 года назад

Hi Stian, I'm sure to say I've seen this video before as I remembered the shortening of the crown stem. Having some experience with Antique restorations, before I became a cabinet maker and joiner, reminds me, the essence in a restoration is to keep the item as original as possible, and in addition to that, anything altered or replaced to be treated so it looks and feels as it was as original. Now, this is exactly what you've done. I'm impressed. Ps. I didn't think for one moment that you would have done any different. Also, in every one of your commentaries, you never fail to convey your research results of the watch you're working on. Till next time, Best regards, Alexander

@bubarowe 2 года назад

I've just re-homed an orphan 51 movement after a service in a modern case bought, and I'm currently restoring a 48 in a case (without a back dammit!) that I have re-plated in nickel in much the same way as the gold plate was completely gone down to copper everywhere. So it's been nice to see your take on the same thing and get some tips, and also be reassured that some of the more laborious bit are inevitable whoever you are!

@markjob6354 2 года назад

Come on man, the dial looks terrible ! 👎🏻 This dial needs to be addressed. The case looks much better, but still not good enough. The Chronograph test Failed ! The minute hand did not look like it returned to the absolute zero mark at the mid-night position. It looked ever so slightly off.

@alairlibreinsfreie5785 2 года назад

I love this style of watches. Elegant understatement. And you managed again to bring back forgotten memories. I have a steel back chrome plated swiss made chronograph that i inherited as a boy from my cousin who died young. I was proud as a king but it never run properly. I remember my parents went to the local watchmaker and he told them this was a movement that was not ment to be servicable. Was there in the 70s swiss chrono movements with manual winding and a layout similar to the one in your video that werent ment to repair? I just look at the watch. Its definetly not a expensive one. The brand is cimier, the chrome case in asymetric 70s style with a dark blue sunburst dial and white subdials in the form of little tv screens. Does this ring a bell with someone?

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Cimier indeed used pin pallet movements also for chronographs and I would agree with the watchmaker in that it wasn't really intended to be serviced. The watches were very cheap and more or less intended to be used until they stopped working, at which point you would buy a new one. The "Timex model" if you will. That said, Cimier made some very good looking watches and they can of course be serviced. Pin pallet movements were however not designed for long term reliability and you should not expect great results from the watch.

@alairlibreinsfreie5785 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices thank you a lot you are a real treasure of watch Information even of the more obscure Kind. I never would have thought that the Swiss used the Timex Marketing model but this information give me peace of mind I will not try to let it be repared. it is a heritage and will stay in its original condition and you are also right: even so it was evidently a cheap watch it has a really beautiful design and since it stoped working so early in it's life Case & Diele are in mint condition. when I was a boy sometimes I carried this watch even so it didn't work just to show off and I think this I will restart doing now, having your information

@haping1 Год назад

Great video. So informative. Thank you. I love the 3 minutes markerrs for the telephone quarter on the subdial ;)

@truxton1000 Год назад

Gorgeous watch! Anyone wearing that will surely be pleased, it's an attention grabber that's for sure...!

@jonnyrotten8095 2 года назад

... "never eat the yellow snow" Nanouk the eskimo ;) Very nice episode, with a lot of informations. Thank you !

@WhiteDragon689 9 месяцев назад

Patine worth it? Yes and No. If you have watches for an investment yes. To have an old watch to wear No. I want it to look clean and not like it came off a HOBO's wrist.

@omegaseamaster1550 2 года назад

I'm thinking thats a watch for a Doctor who sees his patients and takes their pulse etc.... Thank You for sharing your skills with us.

@IMakeWatches 2 года назад

Beautiful Stian! I agree that the case refinishing helps a lot. So much work though! Thanks for showing how it's done!

@Allan-hd1uh 2 года назад

What is your opinion on atomic timepieces i saw seiko has an atomic watch . I know there are atomic clocks but never knew there was atomic watches. All the best from Connecticut USA 🇺🇸

@MrFelix002 Год назад

why talk about inuit and inuvialuit, we dont call ourselves eskimos, its a derogatory name, like calling black man the N word, perhaps stick to talking about things you know about and not about people you know nothing about, we have many things we talk about in this world beside seals and snow

@butre. Год назад

about 20 minutes in you talking about how small everything is, we really don't get a sense of scale in a close up shot like that. those rubies on a pallet fork can easily be only a few thousandths of an inch. it's amazing to me how steady you are if anything.

@eshwarrao7358 2 месяца назад

Stian, you are very rich man, wearing all the expensive watches at the end of the videos. Great work again, goog looking dial, nice to stay as it is.. wish it was a little cleaner than that.. thanka

@ruggsterify 7 месяцев назад

Even though you refinished the case it still looks somewhat worn (at least looks so in the video) so it doesn't stand out as if it were brand new. Continues to match the original dial quite nicely.

@Watcheyes 2 года назад

There is some very valuable information in this one, have seen the case refinish a couple of times now. Nicely done job there Stian! For how long do you run the ultrasonic if it's a really dirty watch? Thank you for this! Have a good day!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks! I generally run the ultrasonic for five minutes in multiple runs with fresh solution in between rather than one long one in the same solution. Then it's easier to see from the liquid how much dirt is coming off.

@Watcheyes 2 года назад

@@VintageWatchServices Thank you, hmm that was a clever solution to it :)

@pippomai9559 2 года назад

Ciao Stian, I agree with you, leave the dial as it is. Looks perfect with the rest of the watch. Ciao

@verafleck 2 года назад

Really wonderful to watch and listen. Did you consider putting the coffee into the wet lume before application?

@alpetterson9452 2 года назад

Great video. Yes. The dial looks much better this way. It would have been a total mess if you'd tried to clean it.

@sergiorio4075 2 года назад

Thanks for another adventure into the watchmaking history. Servicing the movement, restoring the case and keeping the dial intact helped this watch to tell a story, its own story. Heritage most of the time is not about nobility or wealth, it's about temperance and inevitable signs of time passing by.

@kevinadams6036 2 года назад

Would you consider servicing a Vostok am curious to see build quality of their automatic movements

@mirzasakovic 2 года назад

I like patina on old watches but this one is just a bit too far gone. It clashes with new chrome plating & strap imo. Great job as always.

@frankschroth4038 2 года назад

That shaking would look like a earthquake if I would try to do stuff like that, so don't worry !!!

@bessiebraveheart 2 года назад

The dial makes the watch look scruffy. Spoils the whole job.

@rbmwiv Год назад

Those old printing plates are made from Unobtainaum and cost cubic dollars.

@michaelwebber4033 2 года назад

I'm not afraid of electricity. I do give it its due respect of course, but I've been an electrician for about 25 years

@paulclementyonkers4604 8 месяцев назад

I would've at least cleaned the 6-o'clock portion with some water.

@80spodcastchannel 2 года назад

too much e-begging.. not watching your stuff again

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

e-begging? What's that?

@tedblack2415 2 года назад

I'll be honest i was expecting the dial to have a bit of a swab but looking at the finished product i can see why it was left with its aged charm . As for the " easy chronograph to work on " statement i found that as amusing as the short snow conversation😁( which caught me off guard ),great education , entertainment & end results Stian , a credit to your trade .

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks so much, Ted, that's very nice to hear :) I did actually use my normal approach of water and a q-tip to try and clean the dial, but it had no effect so I chose not to include the footage. Perhaps I should have, as quite a few commenters seem to think the dial is dirty while it is in fact simply worn over 80 odd years and a few sets of variably skilled hands. To me the main question of a dial like this is the lettering; if the lettering is largely intact, I would in most cases opt to keep the dial as is, and especially when you have these beautiful big numerals the choice for me here wasn't very difficult.

@randygeyer7673 2 года назад

Nice choice on the band color. Definitely distracts from the worn yellow dial.

@eduardoperez7797 Год назад

Great videos just got into it as a hobby of course but definitely get a lot from your videos thanks.

@eduardoperez7797 Год назад

Great videos just got into it as a hobby of course but definitely get a lot from your videos thanks.

@wiredone2 2 года назад

Beautiful little watch, am currently hunting for a 48 or 51 to try my first chronograph restoration, I definitely feel safe knowing I have your brilliant videos to help me through. Inspirational as always. :)

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

That's very nice to hear Neil, and good luck :)

@angelherrera6820 2 года назад

What a beautiful watch! The dial amazing! Great restoration! Cheers!

@allanrichards3752 2 года назад

I think it is very important to leave the patina on the dial as it is part of the history of the watch and shows it is an old watch with history. If the watch were fully restored to as new it would essentially be another new watch to me.

@bullnose01 2 года назад

Another masterful job, Stian. I'm surprised that given the age of the watch and the lack of lubrication that you didn't detect any significant shake in any of the pivots. As for the dial, I think that you made the right call. So long as there is no loose debris that could impact the movement and the markings generally are intact and readable, refinishing needlessly would destroy the watch's unique character. Since the watch apparently was made in the 1940s and wouldn't have been marked as containing radioactive material, I assume that before reluming the hands you checked to see if there was radium in the old lume.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Most of the pivots are actually fine although there is for sure a bit of wear. The biggest issue is that the end shake of the center wheel is much more than I would like, but given that the hole is not jeweled it isn't easily remedied and the watch still runs fine. There are always a few trade-offs in old watches like this between one's urge for perfection and how much time and effort one can justify putting in... And yes, I did check the lume with my geiger counter and there wasn't any impact. I was honestly surprised myself!

@ericalbany Год назад

I have one of their pocket watches, movement a few notches better than Roskopf, but not by much.

@camarocarl7130 Год назад

Nice but the dial looks super old and case looks new. I would have cleaned the dial/hands a bit.

@milliefried5326 2 года назад

You do amazing work. The narration is succinct and just perfect. Will always be a fan of this channel :)

@-triumphgt667 2 года назад

Completely agree - superb as usual.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks so much :)

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

😊

@ygrbooks 2 года назад

Great video: thank you Stian. Leaving the dial as is, gives the watch much more character and is greatly appreciated. She is a beauty. The only thing I do not like are the unpolished fittings/tubes for the pushers. Since you spent so much time on the case, I would give them a cleaning/polishing, too.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks! I will actually replace the pushers and the crown before selling the watch. The crown is a bit big but it was the only one I had in that outlandishly wide stem thread size :)

@ericfg806 2 года назад

Agree with the wish for exhibition casebacks for these movements

@mercsport 2 года назад

Damn! At one point I thought - cool guy - you were working up to reference Frank Zappa's profound dictum : 'Don't Eat the Yellow Snow' ...."It was a hundred degrees below zero...And my mama cried Nanook, a-no-no...Don't be a naughty eskimo...Watch out where the huskies go...And don't you eat that yellow snow". Alas, 'twas not meant to be. Great listening to your musings and vid' btw.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

😁 Thanks, Bruce!

@johnwhite6899 2 года назад

🙋‍♂️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Hi Stian, another great video. At first I didn't like the uncleaned dial, but as soon as I saw the finished watch with that great brown strap I got what you mean by not touching the face of the dial.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks John! It's complicated for sure...

@ricktimmons458 2 года назад

what do you charge to clean and service a Jules Jorgensen chronograph?

@dr.s.p. Год назад

Great presentation! Funny too. And yup; don’t eat yellow snow.

@jeremycoello9718 Год назад

14:10 if you EVER see “yellow snow”, please DO NOT eat it 😂

@mubarakmubarak902 2 года назад

Excellent work with complicated watch 👍🏼

@zs1dfr Год назад

If you haven't read it yet, read Simon Winchester's book called "Exactly", all about the history of precision. Fascinating! Thank you for this video - your standards of videography and horology never sag!

@VintageWatchServices Год назад

Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out!

@grahamhall2662 Год назад

Brilliant as usual. Very enjoyable, thank you.

@davidcrandall4958 9 месяцев назад

Yes absolutely! patina proves the watch has lived

@umbertosartori 2 года назад

Thank you for sharing so much in detail the marvels of your Craft, an experience otherwise denied to most persons, who do not dispose of your skill patience passion and tools. I find very appropriate the choice about the dial. Mechanisms and their case in perfect efficiency and shape while the artistic part maintains its patina inside that frame shining of care. Good marriage between philology and aesthetics, IMHO. Your conversation is also very pleasant, I appreciated the image of the people in the small mountain villages and the watchmaking as their winter work...

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Umberto!

@johnhull2941 2 года назад

great video again oh how i would love to go back in time to see that watch brand new it is beautiful

@beakytwitch7905 Год назад

Stick the movement into a SeaGull case /dial....

@seorsamaclately4294 2 года назад

Yellow snow? Reminds me of Frank Zappa.

@garysmith7545 2 года назад

The strap you selected makes the dial look OK in my opinion. The coffee on the lume really works with the dial. Interestingly you say early on how parts are either press fit or screwed in (no glue). Yesterday I took a Chinese clone movement out of the wash and the hairspring fell off the balance. Apparently these clone movements are indeed gluing the hairsprings in place. This was a great video Stian, thanks! I still haven't yet had my first success on a simple three-hand watch. After I get there I suppose it will be a date before I try a chrono. At this point I'm still debating needing a microscope. Cheers! - Gary

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Sounds like a good progression plan, Gary :)

@moboei Год назад

Absolutely perfect. Love the contrast with the newly plated case and the authentic face. Stunning

@VintageWatchServices Год назад

Thanks so much!

@raikbusse7697 2 года назад

From my point of view, the hands of the clock have received too much coffee. A light refreshing of the dial would be my wish, would I be the owner of the watch. Otherwise, top work, top video. Greetings from Germany.

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Thanks Raik! A light refreshing of the dial is very difficult, I did actually use my normal approach of luke warm water and a q-tip to try and clean the dial, but it had no effect so I chose not to include the footage. Perhaps I should have, as quite a few commenters seem to think the dial is dirty while it is in fact simply worn over 80 odd years and a few sets of variably skilled hands. To me the main question of a dial like this is the lettering; if the lettering is largely intact, I would in most cases opt to keep the dial as is, and especially when you have these beautiful big numerals the choice for me here wasn't very difficult.

@jeffcline7689 2 года назад

"Watch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow"

@BarnOwl61 2 года назад

First of all, great job and a beautiful movement. About the dial, this one could use some mild, low impact cleaning with water imo. But hey, I'am a watch tinkerer and not a watch maker. Thanks!

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hello Joop, thanks for your comment! I did use my normal approach fo water and a q-tip to try and clean the dial, but it had no effect so I chose not to include the footage. Perhaps I should have, as quite a few commenters seem to think the dial is dirty while it is in fact simply worn over 80 odd years and a few sets of variably skilled hands. To me the main question of a dial like this is the lettering; if the lettering is largely intact, I would in most cases opt to keep the dial as is, and especially when you have these beautiful big numerals the choice for me here wasn't very difficult.

@zibbezabba2491 2 года назад

I just bought a vintage Tudor oyster from the 40s. It has a smear on the dial at the 6.35 position like someone touched it with dirty fingers. I've tried water on a cotton bud but that won't remove it. I have a feeling it's dried oil or grease. It's very faded whatever it is. I'm scared to use anything that may discolour the dial underneath the smear (creamy white). Having a discoloured patch where the smear is would be a disaster I think. Do you have any tips on how to gently persuade it to come off?

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Most likely you will just have to live with it. Over time these marks melt into the varnish and it is very difficult to get off without having to refinish the entire dial...

@kens2328 10 месяцев назад

That dial actually made me gasp. I would love to have a watch like that.

@jensers11 8 месяцев назад

Nobody uses a chronograph?? Poppycock. I have to use it so that I can time the match I am coaching - That way I can hold it up and point at it like Sir Alex when I think we need more or less time because we are either losing or winning. I also have to use it at church when someone gets up to speak so I can point at it and scoff when they are boring me to death. Or also when I sit at a meeting at work and I want to know how long that one lady who won't shut up speaks during the meeting so I can then moan about it later with the evidentiary detail of the actual time down to the 6th of a second... duh.

@VintageWatchServices 8 месяцев назад

😂👍

@hockeyrd99 Год назад

Great job as usual.... but.... and I scanned the comments to see if anyone else mentioned... the lugs/lug holes. They're shot. I can't believe you were able to put a band on this watch! You can't wear a watch with lug holes that are that far gone. I watched the whole video patiently waiting see if you had a way to fix the lugs, as I run across so many watches with lug holes that are worn out like these or worse. I didn't know if you would fill them in and drill new holes, or somehow add to the metal and file it back down. Have you ever tried to repair lugs with holes that are worn through?

@VintageWatchServices Год назад

Thanks and yes, the lug holes are not safe for the watch to be worn. I'll revisit this watch now that I have gotten myself a laser welding machine :)

@pclayton5063 Год назад

I love a little patina, within reason, as it's the history of the watch.

@ianmedium 2 года назад

Though it has Patina the dial can still be easily read and 90% of the markings can still be seen so for me a gentle clean with water to remove surface dirt is all I would do, this dial is still very attractive. For me if the dial still functions as was intended and the markings are largely intact leave well alone I say. The crown as well I think is better being a little oversized especially on what would have been a sports watch, it just looks right and more importantly especially in a manual wind it just makes winding so much easier and satisfying. Your choice of colour for the strap is perfect as it really shows of the aged colour of the dial perfectly. I just don’t like straps with that stitch detail, never liked it, just feels like the strap has been poorly made but and the stitching detracts from the watch as my OCD focuses on it rather than the watch. I reckon a texture like the Hermes texture with the traditional stitching along the sides instead of the two horizontal stitches would look more period correct on this beauty but that’s just me. I know current fashion trends in straps make me wrong on this! :)

@VintageWatchServices 2 года назад

Hello Ian, thanks for your comment! I did use my normal approach fo water and a q-tip to try and clean the dial, but it had no effect so I chose not to include the footage. Perhaps I should have, as quite a few commenters seem to think the dial is dirty while it is in fact simply worn over 80 odd years and a few sets of variably skilled hands. To me the main question of a dial like this is the lettering; if the lettering is largely intact, I would in most cases opt to keep the dial as is, and especially when you have these beautiful big numerals the choice for me here wasn't very difficult.