I lived on the Olympic Peninsula last Winter in a Kodiak tent with a Winnerwell stove, and you have to be careful because it rains and snows so much that finding seasoned wood is extremely difficult. Also, I started out with the small and had to buy a large, so definitely default to the larger size. Also, you'll need the rain cover, and in the desert, the wind will blow out the stove and potentially cause back pressure that will push smoke into the tent. On a different note, there are various logging companies in Washington that will allow you hunt/camp on their property for a few hundred dollars per year. You'll need 4WD, though, I found out the hard way.
One thing about all these small portable stoves is that they do not have a baffle. I had a store selling and installing wood stoves in the hills of Western WV back in the 70s, the best (and most expensive) stoves were the Jotul stoves from Norway. They introduced the baffle system that made the fire travel farther through the stove thus more heat in the room and less up the flue, more even heating of the top for cooking, and by introducing pre-heated air near the baffle enabled the fire to have a secondary burn that increased efficiency greatly and burned the smoke, you would not see any smoke coming out of the chimney! More heat, less wood consumed! Soon most of the other manufacturers copied their baffle system. I guess, in the interest of space saving these portable stoves don't have this. There is a guy in South Korea that makes some beautiful glass front and sided stoves with a baffle system but they are pricey and I am not sure if they are available in the US. I pop riveted a simple baffle in one of those $100 eBay military tent stoves 10 years ago and doubled the efficiency and cooktop heat with that simple mod and once in a while, I could hear the slight roar of a secondary burn happening just above the baffle, smile!
We need a video titled a day in the life of Bob. Not your video making day but the way you enjoy your life. Just a thought. Thanks for all the videos and helpful tips.
ive been hot tenting for years in 12ft teepee with a cheap tms stove. love it just make sure you pack it full before bed. i can get my tent up to 170f and use it as a sauna.
That would be nice to see those in an actual vehicles to have an idea which is more appropriate size wise... Thank you for all your work and sharing 🙏✨
We had a deep freeze in the Deep South not too long ago and the stores ran out of propane. I set up my WhiteDuck 13’ bell tent and Winnerwell medium and was snug as a bug. I’m definitely considering going for the large just to get that bigger firebox to burn standard size logs
Hi Bob Canadian follower here. When you refer to propane heaters putting moisture into the air PLEASE clarify that ONLY some propane heaters are guilty of this problem. Any non vented CATALYTIC heater ie Mr Buddy or similar is guilty of this problem. However the rv propane "furnaces" that are vented do NOT have this problem. Yes they require more DC power than a catalytic heater and are a bit louder in operation. But they produce dry heat and that is the important difference.Have a nice day. Good video on the wood heaters. I have used a wood heater in my house for 32 years so I am a big fan of wood heat. Tom in the Maritimes at the NB-NS border
An option in the southwest deserts, where you’ll find little material to burn, is to pack bags of Pine Pellets (sometimes called Horse Pellets). A friend of mine, in Nevada, heats part of his off grid house with a woodstove burning them. Says it’s cheaper to use Pine Pellets than Propane.
great job bob thats the cheapest heat and maybe even be used to cook with if you had a flat top with the curve in it...i saw one in a van once was sure on the safty but sure was cool plus paper plates say good bye ..real nice
I've used a Winnerwell camping fire pit for a few years now. It folds down flat for SUV travel and has held up well being the same high quality stainless steel.
Have the Winnerwell Woodlander view large and a Tentipi Safir 9CP and it's perfect. Haven't had a real winter yet since we got our Tentipi here in Minnesota but we've used the Woodlander in a 1 tigeris N Gaze it was-32 with windchill and it heat the tent to 90⁰f easily. Sat around in our long underwear. Nice thing about the Woodlander if you use hardwood and with a little practice it'll burn almost all night long. Can not wait to use it in the Tentipi this winter. Praying for Cold and Snow. Good run down btw.
I'm about to go pick up my medium woodlander for use in a Nortent Gamme 4 tent. Do / should hot tenters have a carbon monoxide detector with alarm ? Something that is mentioned with a caution by Winnerwell but I don't see discussed much on forums.
I have a Winnerwell Pizza Oven in my GMC Motorhome. It's been an excellent heater and a place to cook. Bob is correct about the quality of the product, it's very high. My biggest complaint is that I have to clean the pipe every other day or I end up with a slow burning oven and excessive smoke in the home.
@@brians933 I have it down to about 10 minutes to clean the pipe. Winnerwell sells the correct brush for each pipe diameter they sell. The brush is also super high quality. If I burn properly dry oak, then I can go 3-4 days without cleaning the pipe. YMMV My next wood burning oven will likely be one that comes from Turkey, via Etsy I believe it was. They are $1500-$2k for a actual proper cast iron wood, burning oven at dimension comparable to a 24 inch electric wall oven.
These are tent stoves and should not be used in a vehicle. They are not sealed like a normal wood stove. As they heat up they will smoke up the area a little bit. Smoke will escape from around the removable top plate and around the door. Once they heat up they will draft properly. No big deal in a tent but definitely don’t want that in a vehicle. The stoves he's demonstrating with are fantastic but only for tents never an enclosed space. I have the Winnerwell Nomad small. Build quality is top notch, they are great stoves but I wish I’d gotten a medium or large, the small is too small and has to be fed quite often with small wood. Tents, 100% great stoves, vehicles, go with a Dwarf or Cubic that is made for indoor burning.
Yes, excellent for cooking. I added the hot water attachment. Seems silly because it doesn’t take time to heat water. After hiking in cold, though, it’s nice to open tap, add to shower water, ahhh..warm shower! Step out & tap for tea. It also keeps water safe to use. Cheers!
I'm thinking about either buying one of these to use with my diesel heater because I have tons of wood, or building one from an ammo can. I want it to be temporary, because there are insurance concerns. I can get many sizes of ammo cans at my locally owned hardware store. I also owned a trailer that had some oversized ammo cans mounted on the outside for dry storage,so there's several uses for them.
If you want the very best portable stove, then you should check out Four Dog Stove. They make a great titanium stove. Yes, it’s more expensive, but a titanium stove will last for many generations and will not burn out.
I hate all the little sections of pipe for a long term installation. I go to a muffler or exhaust shop and get a 10 foot section of stainless steel pipe.
It is said wood heat warms you 3 times. As a life long user of wood heat I can attest that statement is true. Do not be afraid of cutting/gathering/storing wood, it keeps one active and in shape.
I just installed a diesel heater and a 200w solar system on my bus. Renogy has some killer sales right now. The diesel heater was only $150 as well. I was inspired by the deep freeze from a wekk ago. Now to trade my friend some painting in exchange for cabinets and a platform on the back for my scooter.
Would you say the medium is good for a Class C? I'm thinking the small, but I want it to burn through the night and I'm thinking the small is too small for that. thank you so much Bob for this video. I'm new at the full time thing. Can't wait to meet you and show you my space.
You've piqued my interest 🙂 Two questions: 1 - what is the burn-in? and 2 - can this type of stove be used inside of a house as well, as long as it's vented outside? ✌ TY
There's a link for the small stove in the description; I just used it...it's priced at $359. It's the small one but is labeled Medium for some strange reason.
Bob, great reviews. I have a question on tents. Which one would you prefer white duck bell tent or spring bar design? I need something for a family of four. Seems like white duck bell tent16.5" is more spacious but the wall height is not there. Appreciate your input.
People who use the small stove often put it on a table. A 3ft folding metal table will raise the shorter stove pipe by 3ft. And it's easier to cook on.
There are vented(chiminied) propane stoves not only the expensive Dixon Marine Newport ones. It will be much easier to manage propane than collecting wood everyday and managing the burn during the night. I don’t think you had the pleasure of testing those 🙏🙏
Hi! When make a reservation in a camping site, do I have to say that I will sleep in my car? I find out 3 places in GA that will not aloud me? Am I doing something wrong? I have. VW 2023 in perfect condition!! Why is this happening? Thanks in advance for your responses!!
I sleep in small SUV. I pay for tent sites. Always make sure it’s not a "walk to" site. The only place I’ve ever had an issue with is KOA. They insist you have a tent set up. I bought a used pop up kids tent. Takes up no space & I also can use to mark my spot taken at BLM spots/dispersed. If it gets stolen, it was $1😄. Happy Camping!!
There are some campgrounds that will not allow car camping. You may need a RVIA certified camper to stay at some locations. Known as class A, class B, class C rvs. You could also tent camp, or find public land. Or go to another location.
I'd want something with four legs. I don't know why a wood stove company would make a fireplace with three legs. There's nothing less stable than three legs.
They are different models. The four legged ones are Nomad models and the three legged ones are Woodlander models. They make small medium and large in each model.
