This scene clearly shows why Avon was the leader of their organization. Stringer was smart but he wasn’t realistic or dependable in the streets. Avon literally came home to crumbles of his empire because string couldn’t even hold it down.
Well, it depends on how you look at it. As an organization financing packages, Stringer built the organization to make money hand over fist, but it wasn't a wartime organization. But then, Stringer cared about money. Avon cared about reputation. The fight mattered to him. So it didn't matter how much money they were making, Avon saw the organization as weak because it couldn't protect their corners (nonwithstanding that earlier in this season "their" towers had been completely demolished). Stringer was probably right that they could disappear into the upper works and become rich and powerful, but they would also become silent. Avon did not want to be silent, he wanted his name to ring out.
Stringer was about being a millionaire without being the target of cops. Avon was about his name ringing out on some ghetto street corners. In the end, Stringer's problem was that he tried to live in between instead of simply leaving the life. He should've told Avon once he got released, that he would now step back and handle the legit side of their empire. Let Slim Charles be Avon's underboss. This would've worked out soooo much better for Mayor Barksdale.
He was ultimately right, but he was so dispassionate and rational that he lost the respect of others still playing the game. While he was greedy, he was seeking to reduce the amount of violence and conflict required to make money. But passion and ruthlessness are highly valuable traits in this game, so he got betrayed but those closest to him.
To be fair, not a lot of guys get to clean they whole ack up. Hell, Stringer could be said to have killed D'Angelo almost entirely because it looked like he was on his way out of the game. Once you don't want anything out of the game anymore, how long is it before you start serving up your own?
I always agreed with Stringer about going legit. It was the better move in the end. But what do I know? I ain't no gangsta like Avon. You know, I'm just a suit wearing businessman I suppose
I like how the show tries to point out similarities on both sides. For example, earlier in this episode or season, Kima and Cheryl have their relationship dissolving and the conversation starts "So? So?" just like here with Avon and String. And both String and Colvin say "Get on with it motherf..." as String gets shot and Colvin gets fired.
@JOE knows Maybe you should have respect for yourself since you think it's appropriate to be ridiculing strangers on the internet. Go deal with your anger instead of taking it out on other people.
Man, if anything, String should have tried convincing the Commission what a threat Marlo was to everybody involved. Them trying to appease Marlo was like Chamberlain trying to appease Hitler; you can give all the concessions in the world it’ll just make their next move even stronger. If they had just pooled together to destroy Marlo then, they could have came back to the Commission worry free.
Stringer was the reason barksdale organization got weak season 2-3 especially when Avon came home. Avon came home to no corners at all. Smh I stop liking Stringer in this season.
The corners were going to be weak regardless because of the fact they had no product which made stringer work with prop joe & give up half the towers until avon got a connect
@Rational PoC Yeah, Avon ended up in jail. Let's not forget, though, Stringer ended up in the ground. You can debate which is better, life in a box or life in a cell... but atleast Avon is alive!
Amjid Ali @Amjid Ali & buttnuggett59 Sounds like both of your comments you no nothing about what goes on in inner-city (hood) drug game...It’s just fiction to you. So I suggest you do some real research before you make a STUPID, small-minded, blanket comment(s) like you made!
String: “We can run more than corners B, period.” Avon: “I want my corners” At the end of the day, Avon was still just a straight soldier. He couldn’t see the bigger picture. He couldn’t see past his neighborhood.
I gotta legit question: niggas for years been sayin Stringer wasn't built for the game, he playin away games, yada yada yada. But didn't Jay-Z, Dame Dash, Master P, J-Prince to name a few do the same shit? They took their street $, washed it into rap, clothes, movies, boxing, etc and got out the game. Stringer ain't make a label, he was thinking real estate but same concept. So what's the difference
I'm going to be honest. Most ppl blame stringer but he was right. Avon just wasn't able to see beyond the street. Where stringer messed up was believing he could outsmart everyone and play dangerous games. Anybody that's involved in the game in entirety will tell you they are ppl in positions that bring the shit in and go nowhere near the streets. Most ppl don't even know who they are. Once you get to that level police can't touch you on anything drug related. The only problem is you lose connections with the street and the fame that goes along with it but again it's worth it if you just want to survive at that point.
Wire fans, what's your thought on String taking out Dee behind Avons back. I think if String and Avon were so tight. String should of went to Avon and told him he thinks Dee is a liability and should get got. Be a man and tell Avon you gonna kill his nephew. Secrets get you killed. LOAYALTY.
Everyone is reading this wrong. Stringer is right about this. He is not trying to change the game, he is trying to get Avon to think like a boss. Avon is thinking like a corner boy.
Stringer may have been right in theory. In practice he was wrong and sorely undereducated. The co-op worked because each member had history and a rep to their name. But all that business money talk don't mean shit to a new or young gang lord who wants to be at the top and not share the wealth. And it also don't mean shit when you get double fucked in the "legit" world of business and politics Avon knew exactly the type of gangster Marlo was and where his own strengths lie. String didn't.
Stringer was trying to elevate Avon to a higher level of the game. He didn't have it all work out yet, but he was trying to get Avon to start thinking about the game at the level that a CEO would. We all know the biggest gangsters are the CEOs of fortune 500 companies, politicians and heads of Hegde Funds. People who know how money really works, how to move money, how buy political power. The kind of gangsta with cops on the payroll. Playing the game at that level, you can easily deal with thugs like Marlo no problem. You could do it any number of ways because all Marlo knew at the time was the streets of Baltimore.
@@rsims7373 the problem was that Stringer was nowhere near any CEO's level. The show spells it out numerous times. The icing was the Clay Davis fiasco.