Woke Translators Are Out Of Control 

Much like if you have an Arona PFP, you are mega based.

@@KingKrouch Thank you!

Oh I'm sure that she is plenty funny. I mean IDK about you but she has to be THE biggest joke I have ever seen 🤣

Tywin Lannister: "Any man that must say, I am the King. Is no true King"

They wasted words saying they're funny, when they could've shown that they're funny by using their words to say something actually funny instead.

It is true though haha

Straight BARS right there!

I suppose that's better than having a girl be 5 but actually 10k like anime coomers enjoy.

​@s0f0ful no that's actually worse because you are doing it with a person with the mind of a toddler at least with the thousand year old vampire she has the mind of an adult. Also did you know predators usually target their victims because of two things their appearance and their mentality.

its really embarrassing for a 46 yo imo, mocking virgins and all that. she acts 26

That's the issue though she isn't that skilled clearly otherwise the meaning wouldn't have been perverted as it was lmao I agree it does take incredible skill to do what actual localizers do but clearly she isn't one she's an activist there is a massive difference

It's not about her skill... she's just a terrible person with an agenda and a ego to match.

Yeah.. thats a good point. A lot of the names in one piece are onomonopias. So not only do they have to translate it into english, they have to find some way to convey a humorous sound to it with a word that sounds completely different.

Also i forgot, he also does a lot of jokes based on the kanji looking like another kanji that gives it ironic meaning.. and you have to try and preserve that in a language composed of just plain letters.

Animal crossing localisation is probably the best example of the unsung heros of this niche industry. AC is obviously full of stuff of Japanese day to day culture and it's been localised to several countries so that kids could relate to all the dialogue. It's an insane achievement.

Right? If they just did their job properly then they would have had support from the fans if this happened. Which btw i don't think it would have, if they did their job properly, instead it eould have been a "don't fix whats not broken" situation. But no, these people just had to shit all over everything for years and it took someone outside the fandom with enough outside perspective eyes to open the door and see them swimming in their own filth and throwing it at the fanbase

@@thehatter9400 The worst part of this whole debacle, is how snarky and proud of what they were doing localizers have been for years. I still remember the "The most fun part of being a localizer is to see with how much I can get away with" tweet from a particular one. I can't wait for all of these people to get replaced by a robot, and I do speak japanese, so I can't even begin to fathom on how happy people who can't read/watch the source material must be about this, and finally get actual faithful content.

The main problem with this sentiment is that I know a lot of translators who are passionate in this area while also being underpaid. Funimation is really problematic and has completely lost touch with their fanbase, but they're not the only entity in this field. The rest of industry shouldn't be dragged down just because of this one problem child.

Let it happen.

Game journalists might have something to say about that lol

Why dont you write to them and send in a complaint

Firing a woman is discrimination and sexist. Haven't you heard?

@@lapislazuli6136 and the complaint gets turned down as a "hate misogynistic campaign aimed to shut down a strong independent woman" the very second it gets brought up to corporate

Just say you're pro lgbtq and fighting for the rights of the marginalized and you can be as nasty as you want to anyone you can frame as a biggot or oppressor, and the company doesn't dare to do shit because they don't want them to take to twitter to paint the company as the ones that fired someone for fighting for equal rights for the oppressed people of society.

It's difficult to classify this as sexual harassment. It's a PR-bomb at best

Not to mention that she kept quiet when KV voice actor Daman Mills got hit with similar accusations, even though there was actual evidence to back up those accusations.

Simultaneously a victim and an empowered woman

so she basically get karma and it was long overdue

What? Vic is the one doing the SLAPP and his case was dismissed for that.

​@@EvilJoeReaper defamation lawsuits are not frivolous. Defamation exists on the books for a reason, and what happened to him was one of the most clear-cut textbook examples I can think of. The person that actually fucked that up was the judge.

they didnt say anything about the guy who asked the question

They didn't bully that guy..did you listen to what he said? He was kissing her ass and said he didn't agree.. She wasn't talking to him..she probably loved that little simp

@@johnnyflannigan136 In my opinion, based on his awkward body language, he wanted to get out of the situation as soon as possible without facing unnecessary hate as he is a socially awkward guy so he just agreed and moved on.

Ask Disney how insulting their fans worked out for them.

Ask Disney how insulting their fans worked out for them.

Was saying this when they ruined Stat wars and marvel years ago

I mean look at Nexus Mod and the Spiderman 2 mod that replaced the pride flags to US flags, or BG3 Mod that changed a lesbian women to a man. Both got banned faster as you can say biggot.

They've been doing this for more than a decade now. Everything these people touch becomes corrupted. It's why we need more gatekeeping.

The woke Ideaology is disrespectful anyway, its designed to help 'prevent discrimination' but the way it's implemented seems more out of anger/salt and molecoddles people to the point they become toxic individuals towards any minute thing people say. The generation it's supposedly made for or as the media call it a 'modern audience' don't even like it, so really who they're making it for is themselves.

@@sintho357 to be fair, Spiderman 2 didn't need any mods. You can just play Middle Eastern version to get the same result.

*parented

@@oriongear2499 the woes of an iphone keyboard

Well, if that AI gets good and prevalent enough, she will soon actually get disciplined for her crap finally by being fired and replaced. Better late than never.

Entitlement at its finest.

Usually people who feel the need to declare what they can or cannot do were raised in the opposite environment. Insecurity spurs overcompensation.

preach

Your boss is based, man.

I am glad there are some champs like you out there doing a proper at localizing.

American localizers are the only ones that should be replaced with AI.

It's very true about you can't translate word for word. Some languages don't have "hello!". They have "how are you!" Instead.

Professional victimhood at work

Insecure people either absorb and lament all criticism, or reject all of it (Jamie).

I hate to be sexist but this is why in history females were never considered to have power. It was unthinkable.

Such is the world of the insane

She understands it. She's just evil.

people on twitter literally think they own the world and they sit on a throne. i guess that's what happens when you never go outside, or maybe your parents didnt show you the concept of a pecking order. shit is cringe.

@@ginxxyami 💯

That's the thing. They weren't "evil".

There are literal nazis harassing hee tho so it’s fine to use it

This is what disgusts me too, it completely disrespects the actual survivors of the horrendous Holocaust. I remember when I was still in school we had Holocaust survivors visit who gave a 3 hour long speech about their stories and how absolutely horrific they were. And you can just hear the immense pain in their voice for everything they went through. So when I see the word Nazi being watered down to where it's become meaningless infuriates me and completely disrespects all the ACTUAL brave people

Labelling someone a very serious term in order to hurt them/damage their reputation simply because they disagree with you - hmm, what's that called... oh yeah, slander. On the upside, these people have used "sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and racist" so often and for so long that it means literally nothing anymore. Any time I hear someone being called one of those, by one of these people, I automatically assume they're just based and don't falter their beliefs when they're pressed with the leftist hivemind machine.

Yup they are immature petulant babies who can't have a real convo about anything unless it sides with whatever their view is

So, the average modern western woman

@@inciacci549yup thanks to Chinese communism and feminism

Her responses are incredibly tame compared to the shit that gets said to her on twitter.

The industry is these people. Ideological capture happened years ago.

But thats the issue, even in other industries they wouldn't be fired on the spot because people like them and their views hold all the power in Western society right now. They don't need to worry about standards or consequences because they will always be defended by the news media, social media algorithms/bots, and their own companies. So the real question becomes how do you crack that and force these people into a consequence for their actions, because right now they know they can punch down as long as they like and they will never see one.

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Airselm88Not all of Western society. They control the media (I think because of location) Most game developers, animation studios, movie producers, etc, are all highly concentrated in heavily left-leaning cities To be a game developer, for example, you likely need to relocate to Seattle or somewhere in Cali, home of the hardest leaning liberals you can find Because of this, the pool of talent is going to sway heavily in one direction What we really need are more conservative and middle-ground artists. Enough of them to feel comfortable speaking against political agendas, without fear of being ostracized in their work environment

That side of the industry IS RUN by these people lol. Look up the situation that happened with Vic _(Z Broly's voice actor)._ Many years ago.

That woman has an "intimate relationship" with the owner of the company. She will not get fired.

they are unable to reflect that, unfortunately.

Isn’t it sexual harassment to call someone a virgin? What incredible privilege she is displaying to be able to speak like that with no fear of repercussions to her job.

The ironic thing is that they’re the actual incels 😂

@@SmaugWise pretty much

idk. but if its done in a derogatory manner its definetly illegal in countries like germany. we made bullying and insults possibly punishable by prison. we dont care about "muh free speech". if youre doing stuff like this youre going to pay.@@SmaugWise

Imagine protecting the employee again and again. Then fire the good employees who the bad employee just do not like. Or falsely accuse them? It happened?

@@raggafan1if half the rumors are true there is some blackmail in there

Funimation is pretty much full of these types of people, if anything she'll get a promotion and get even more work to ruin with her political views.

It's always good to listen to an inside perspective, turns out, in fact, those people in the video are rot.

That's women.

​@@lordrevan571 No, no that's whamen 😂😂😂😂

The iron law of woke projection.

@@ana-mariabobe1762 Nah, more like a 4-year old kid.

@@CrystalWings12 what an insult to 4 year olds, they hardly know better 🤣🤣🤣

God i hope they can, i hope they clean house and get some people who arent agenda pushing clowns into the positions

@@someweirdo9129 I'd also like for whatever games that got this treatment get their BS patched out and replaced.

Can you tell us the name of that vtuber? I'd like to add views there and help get it more exposure

@GoukenGassenarl unfortunately i don't know. Rev might have linked the channel in his description. Hero Hei also covered it, so it could be in his, too.

@@GoukenGassenarl If you're talking about the Vtuber on the first segment, I believe it's Rev Says Desu.

Nah bro a lot of good people get there career ruined over accusations I was at a con he showed up to the sexual allegations one is definitely real

Heard from a Jewish friend that Nazi seemly is a pun cuz it sounds similar to a word that means stupid(idk if true). However, I have a feeling that it was always meant to prevent people from realizing that the national socialist regime was not far-right but some weird center-left crap.

My grandparents were greatly affected by the Nazi’s During the Blitz. Anyone that calls someone a Nazi is a scumbag in my eyes, it’s the worst possible insult I could imagine.

@@kittentacticalwarfare1140 18th century Intellectuals and their political theories are responsible for are modern day problems. And also post-modernism (the BAD one).

​@@kittentacticalwarfare1140It wasn't. It was far-right.

Allot of actual Nazis try to water the term out as well so that they can introduce people to Nazis because simpletons think that since "everyone is a Nazi", there are no actual Nazis. The term "Nazis say they are not Nazis" is decades old for a reason. And yes, allot of Trump supporters are real Neo Nazis.

I can’t blame the Author for revoking Funimation’s DM License.

How is she still working, because that's how you lose your job

I've yet to see any report anywhere on this being true. Where did this idea even come from?

😂 “MY WORK” 😂!! And to the AUTHOR… man I hope funimation cleans house of them.

​@@wallyhackenslackerim hoping op is a worker at funimation

It's quite possible that to them, disliking this kind of power-tripping is misogyny, because all the women they know are like themselves.

No excuse

​@Nardage you didn't see the "see more"

@Nardage bro ya failed to hit the "more" button

I mean that's the job of your regular good old translator. Still no need for a localizer.

​@@AbystomaMexicaniumI think he means that localisations really only need to be done for sayings and idioms to get the point across better. Translating "Prepare an umbrella before it rains" to "Better safe than sorry" is usually okay because it's still the same meaning, but changing "tsundere" to "fragile male ego" is extremely crass, changes the whole meaning on the sentence, and pisses off anyone who knows the original context

🤓🤓

What's wrong? ​@@BeegBeegYoshi.

@@myy1008 AI is for losers, and the joke of "welcoming your new AI overlords" is overdone

@@Spo0kl Touch grass bro

AI sounds bad

I am pretty sure she is Gen X.

@@0816M3RCThe oldest millennials are in their early 40’s

Boomers are pushing 70 now dog

@@petrri323 70-90 right? most are dead? for that kinda boomer?

'Aspiring Grandma' hahaha, that tickled me

That fart-sniffing Q&A answer is not going to do her any favors.

Try 40 years. This has literally been the case since anime first started getting translated. Just instead it was typically censoring and hiding any hints at LGBT characters/relationships and reanimated anything they didn't like.

​@@applegeepedigree Just out of curiosity which anime did translators try to hide LGBT characters??

@@applegeepedigreeor are you making blanket statements with no evidence …

Sailor moon ​@@SurR3AL392

Not one myself, but can absolutely see that

The entire concept of localization "making it culturally in line with the target culture" is what gives these people a free pass to rewrite anything. You don't localize a book or cartoon, you translate it. The term localization took off in videogames because the unique challenges faced by games more often than other media like translating word puzzles or signs, or fixing word wrapping which require skills and modifications besides just translation. These tasks came to be collectively referred to as localization. It stuck strongly with Japanese culture because they made many games. Many JP game translators then brought over this term to anime and manga where it was redundantly conflated with translation itself. And now you have people defending "cultural changes" in translation as a necessary part of the process when it is not. Altering the culture of dialogue is something to be done as a last resort when there's absolutely no way to translate while retaining a fair level of meaning and spirit. It's the mindset that tells you people are eating jelly donuts when there are rice balls on screen. It's the mindset that would see that problem, and think jelly donuts are not the issue, the rice balls are, and push for the scene to be redrawn with jelly donuts.

English speaking audiences are the only ones that demand these "localisations" the rest of the world does just fine with translations, that's the *point* of consuming foreign media : to be exposed to different world views

Bad take, the original translation never ever translates well into English, so they need to find new words, or English words to describe them better. We're not asking them to be funny, we're asking them to use proper English and not Political buzzword speak.

​@lordrevan571 the hell we are. I dont care for "proper" translations at this point. If something is tough to translate, you simply put a translator note explaining whatever it was that doesn't translate well.

@@Zippyd00da132 Correct, but if you're paid a lot of money to do a job, IE translate, localize it, then no you can't really do that, else every Anime will simply be 40% english with Japanese words and phrases thrown in, it would look autistic. Instead, and this is crazy I hope you don't think I'm crazy. We just hire people who aren't politically connected or have some gender identity crisis they need to shove down people's throats and hire people who actually know both languages well enough to translate them into their respective partner languages? Just a thought? Hire people who are good and not people with tumblr bios bigger than their resumes? Just a thought.

The problem is that this woman does not have the necessary studies to translate shit. She studied acting. Good translators have studies in literature, so they can rewrite the original work while keeping the meaning minimally changed. I entirely blame the people who hired her. She has no place translating anything

@@lordrevan571not even a medium take. The dude is right.

I actually saw one of those ads this week for my language and there were no requirements at all besides "speaking" the language. honestly was tempted to apply for it, but i suck at writing a sentence. haha

I honestly want to become a translator, since I'm a hardcore weeb and learning Japanese, but the job is hard, and requires a lot of responsibility and consistency, which I can't afford, because I have Schizotypal Personality Disorder, so it's twice as hard, if not 20 times as hard. So when I see people who are capable of doing it, abuse and stain the art of translation, not to mention Linguistics, the amount of distaste I have for localizations isn't something I can ever stop having. They've been doing this ever since The Medieval Roman Catholic Church. These mfs need to be weeded out.

Localizers are redundant, you can get rid of localization jobs and just work with translators and editors. They aren't that important.

This problem existed in fan subs for years too. Like commie subs full of memes woke and slang. Fff on some. I would bet some of this fan translators went to work for the industry

You were having a stroke from trying to mentally process bullshit.

A whole lot of bullshit in one terrible sentence.

"No you're not Honey."

I just opened her Twitter, and I saw her quote tweeting every criticism and also replying to every reply of those quote tweets. She's crazy lol

You can tell by the way she characterizes anyone who isn't in total agreement with her as being "misogynists and Nazis".

​​@@aimasea One of them being mine. She's clearly having a mental breakdown with all the criticism.

​@@aimaseaAs someone who had watched the whole drama that is Vic Mignogna situation (where she's the side antagonist) she was already this nutjob.

One can only wonder why don't they have some PR training or management from the companies they work with, though I have a feeling that the higher-ups in the companies must agree with them to some extent, otherwise no company would continue to associate with such a brand risk.

as a fan of most media, i dont care about how funny you are or if you have a vagina. i just want good content. i dont like woke media and its not because of the politics really but because they make everything so boring, unfunny, and self-righteous. I'd comment on far right media but they dont have a foothold in the door in movies, tv shows, games, books, etc so outside their political spectrums, you rarely see anything with Red ideology in it anymore. i absolutely believe that people have let it go too far and its mostly out of fear of being humiliated against publicly or your life destroyed because you accidentally called a character she instead of they. i have been noticing a rise in people getting tired of everything just being overtly politicized, so hopefully 2024 is the year where we can start kicking the woke stuff out because man its just so annoying bc its never said with any nuance or intelligence. its just the same ignorance regurgitated from platform to platform

We’ve had better luck pushing back against political infiltration of anime translations because it’s a handful of employees that are doing it, rather than the executives and lead directors of movies and video games who are a lot harder to get booted out.

Happens in games as well. Dont choose apathy, choose responsibility.

Despite the title of the video we are not actually talking about a translator here. The translation work was done for the subs and while I don't speak japanese those appear to be fine. It's the dub adaptation that's the issue. It would be more like if all parties spoke english but the stenographer just wrote down whatever she liked.

@@luckygozerSubtitle translations aren't completely great, either. A common issue with them is censoring profanity, and puff-ups and puff-downs of words. You rarely see a word translated with the proper register. The majority of the time, it's a loose approximation. And what I mean I puff-ups is that translators can overblow or underblow words that don't have that level of register. A simple example, that most people would know, is profanity. Strong profanity gets incredibly censored, so much so that characters end up sounding artificially polite, which in end of itself is mistranslation. And that doesn't even scratch the surface of what the accepted orthodox translation practices are. And trust me, maximum accuracy isn't one of them.

Localizers are redundant, you can get rid of localization jobs and just work with translators and editors. They aren't that important.

Absolutely! Exactly!

Pretty sure that can actually be done, didn't that happen with a particular dubbing company for making excessive unnecessary changes?

@@christophermonteith2774 It did? How? Who? And when? I'm just curious and interested.

Debatable. Affirmative action and diversity hiring has placed "progressive" ideologues in a position of being untouchable, and they know it.

Hey, they are all upset that AI changes the original intent of artists! Wait a second...

Of course but they don't need to care about standards because these types of people hold all the power in Western society right now, despite how much they cry oppression. They know they can do whatever they want and news media, social media platform algorithms/bots, and their own companies will move Heaven and Earth to defend them.

I always like to compare it to a restaurant. Imagine if you ordered fish and chips and I bring you a salad and you're the bad guy if you complain. 😅

That Lucoa clip Rev just shared again? Yeah, the localizing studio lost the license over it. It's no longer the official translation. This happened years ago. It was punished. It is more often punished than not, and localizers like these are one out of a 1000 diligent workers. This is blown out of proportion significantly, and now people suffer needlessly.

Cultural vandalism at best, marxist propaganda at worst. That's what they boldly do without an ounce of shame. It's been happening all over most of the entertainment industry in the west for about a decade now. Doesn't matter that you are not interested in politics. Politics is interested in YOU.

I mean nobody really asked for the 1st 2 points. Kinda irrelevant but yea.

Whats irrrlevant is saying that its irrelevant ​@@DHankins19

It get even worse bc in retrospective it makes sense a bunch of games from back in the 90's had really wack translations one of this wokalizers admitted to bull$h1t his way through a game with only the rough translations of the plot Don't remember if it was legend of Gaia or grandia something like that Doesn't seem like there was ever a golden standar

@@DHankins19 Its conversational points. No one asked for anyone to respond. You don't ask people to talk to you (well, maybe you do). Touch grass.

There's people harassing this hippie indy artist because she wears dreads and references spirituality from different cultures. They insinuate awful things about her and her family. She's creating music in her own space. Meanwhile, same kinds of people will defend these prissy localisers who are trampling over other people's art, then get online to brag about trampling over other people's art. It's messed up. People's priorities are all screwed up. It's okay to not like the music the girl above makes, or to even find her style tacky, but she ultimately isn't harming anyone. Localisers are harming artists by tampering with their art. 😔

I legit can't take them serious.

That's what localization means. Adapting to your culture. Translation is 1-for-1, adaptation is not. Dubs are also not localizations or translations. They need to fit mouth movements to the words being spoken. They HAVE to alter things slightly or else the mouth movements won't line up. It's easy to dismiss the criticism of people who don't even seem to understand the difference between words that mean different things.

@@jonsible Except it isn't adapting to my culture. Why should I be okay with an American corporation with a fair chunk of money behind it refusing to hire British VAs for roles that require British accents, because they want to hire their relatives and best buds for the roles instead, even when they can't perform British accents well? Good localisation? Nah, at that point it's not even localisation at all, it's plain nepotism.

@@JayneAFK Because then you wind up in situations like ProZD found himself in where he made the same argument and now no will hire him unless it's to play an asian role despite his otherwise fantastic voice range. That's not to brush aside the fact that nepotism is a thing in this and many other industries that utilize such talent, because it is bullshit. But at the end of the day, if a person can fit a role, regardless of who or what ethnicity they are or where they're from, they should be allowed to play that role. It should be about talent, not identity.

They have done a lot of things like that, they are entitled hypocrits who think they are better than everyone

@@whitedragonzerureusu4480 Selfish am I right!

its called having double standards

Stop thinking that these people have morals. All they have is linguistic tools they leverage for power.

Nothing we can do but say fuck it and sit back and watch the show anyway🤷‍♂️🤣

Localizers: We're gonna lose our jobs to AI! Anime Viewers: Oh no....Anyway

“THESE DONUTS ARE GREAT, JELLY FILLED ARE MY FAVORITE!?” *holding onigiri*

The Jelly donut was funny. The Dragon Maid line, however? Cringe.

ive only heard one of em say it so far, and im gonna take a guess here and say that the absolute vast majority of localizers do the translation too

I think a lot of what they do is just read over the translations, which are either run through things like DeepL or done by someone who doesn't primarily speak English, making sure it's grammatically correct and sounds natural. But literally anyone whose first language is English can do that. If they were actually translating, they would be called translators, not localizers.

​​@@vortex_beast1585Even my 10 year old brain knew those weren't donuts...

@@n337 replying cuz im interested in hearing the answer too, someone please like or let me know if he replies.

I too would like to partake in this thought exercise.

Hey, I'd love to watch anime with you on discord. Hearing about these mistranslations would do wonders in helping me learn japanese

​@@kokuutou92 I am doing the same thing. Definitely one of the more interesting things I've read on youtube in some time.

I know the feeling, I have a very basic grasp of conversational Japanese and I can tell when a translation/sub isn't correct. Like there's always a bit of give and take with translating and localising, as certain jokes or references don't work as well in English as they do in Japanese. But a lot of crap that's being pushed as "correct" these days are so far out of left field that it's shot out of that ball park and far away from anything that resembles sense or meaning in any language. 😅

Man, I remember when going back home to Portugal for summer break in the 90's and seeing the Portuguese DBZ dub over there and being surprised at how different it was from the Canadian and American dubs that I was used to over here. The Portuguese localisers had way too much fun with their dub. lmao I loved it.

@@Gofr5 They were wildin' my guy! Americans have good dubs too when they get the right people to work on them. I don't think AI translation will stop actors from doing whatever the heck they feel like in the recording booth, but I'm sure it'll help with the original script they're handed sticking much closer to the intentions of the authors, and that's what matters. It's _those_ people that want to spite others using someone else's work that suck. Good riddance! :D

Brazilian here, it's the same here, localizers may replace slangs but that's all.

Step-by-step guide for losing your community to a bunch of parasites: *1.* Be welcoming and understanding towards people who hate you and everything you stand for. *2.* Watch them replace everything you love with nonsense, while they push you out of your own community. *3.* Realize you made a horrible mistake, appeal to their sense of decency and morality. *4.* Get called a nazi and a bigot and thrown out.

@@The_Endless_Now Say it again, louder, much louder, for the alphabet people in the back.

What are you talking about? This has been happening ever since we've been importing anime for American broadcast. On top of that, Marchi's an oldhead-- she's been in there for a long time. If anything she's changed to this DURING her time in the scene, which isn't an anomaly within the American anime fandom since 2013 or so.

@@seg162 Cope, look at anime from 1999 to 2012 and then look at anime from 2012 to 2024 and you'll see a huge difference in how often they're mistranslated to fit a politically okay word in its place.

​@@lordrevan571 I guess the Nazi label was accurate then..

YES YES YES, got a source on that?

Pls, we need a source rn

@@JingleJoecommenting for source too. I PRAY this is real.

Hero hei covers this on his video​@@whytho1690

Yeah, a Japanese Vtuber did discuss some of the nonsense that localizers have done. The channel name is called “pukujiji”, and the video should have Asmongold’s face on the thumbnail.

With one of the most egregious examples being in Fire Emblem where there were 4 BLANK TEXT BOXES where there should have been text for what Saizo nd that youg woman he was talking to meaning there was AN ENTIRE SECTION OF THE GAME'S STORY REMOVED ENTIRELY and they think that they did a GOOD job when that is just SHEER LAZINESS. NO WONDER our faux-calizers have such a bad reputation. it is because They keep giving us a BAD product and GLOAT about it on X. It's DISGUSTING. Oh and them making excuses when they are confronted by fans about it in defense is just mind-numbing to hear about. They are defending what is really indefensible and it is just painful to watch. Or fun to laugh at depending on how you think about it.

That's how it works unfortunately. If the langauges are from different families then paraphrasing is the way to go. Translators are sometimes even called co-authors if they deal with prose because of how much work it takes to get the meaning across, all the puns, jokes, careful character interactions (honorifics, maaan the honorifics) etc. while also delivering it in a natural way. Even then roughly 30% of the message is lost along the way. Then there is a debate about domestication vs foreignization. Unfortunately, some people take it waaaaay too far and are essentially changing enitre works to be their mouthpieces.

I noticed the same thing watching subs for french cartoons. I may not get all the slang and jokes, but -that- is not what they said.

@@dannywolfpero English speakers watch our cartoons too ?!

@@HayatoStarGod it's just Miraculous Ladybug. I tried Wakfu but I can't get into it. Je voudrais regarder un autre, si tu sais.

@@dannywolfpero Je connais pas beaucoup de dessin animés français, mais si je peux t'en recommander un, ce serait Code Lyoko

A youtuber called Rev says desu has done a video very recently with japanese people talking about this and he translated all their comments in his video with google translate. Most of them said to use Ai and they have every right to do that because of this

Exactly. My opinion, if she wants to write bad lines and make cultural commentary about the patriarchy, she needs to create her own show. But she’s not creative or talented enough for that, so this is the best she can do.

One thing I've noticed is that no one, not even villains can be too "bigoted". Perversion and looking down on women (even if only someone progressive would think so) gets changed when localized

The Fire emblem and trails-of series are the biggest victims of butchered translation unfortunately

If you play with JP voices and English text, you can 100% tell that they are not saying the same thing in many cases. It's fucking criminal. Lolcowlizers need to go asap.

@@rubenfortunato3810 yeah ngl ive always been a JP voice enjoyer for anything media related, but since ive been studying japanese (and naturally at some point you start to understand a lot of things by itself) its actually gotten so much worse for me because i actually notice how in a lot of cases the sub doesnt match the voice acting. It's really frustrating.

​@muko5860 It's just Trails, not to be confused with the Tales of series. Still sad to here that though, I've been making my way through them from start and I'm 7 games in , with cold steel 3 being the one I play next.

They want to save money. Translation is done to maintain as much of the meaning as possible. Then localisation is done to change what's necessary for it to be natural and understandable. Sometimes a work might be localised for a British and an American audience for example, so they hire two localisers and both work from the same translation. Finding a native English speaker that is fluent in Japanese would cost more, and isn't really needed in most cases. The tone and style is not supposed to be changed, nor is the overall message. It can lead to some unintentional changes in meaning, but if they hire good ones it shouldn't be a problem. However these companies want to save money so they often have poor translations and then poor localisations. These localisers are intentionally changing the theme/tone/message of the content though, so them being able to speak Japanese wouldn't really change anything.

Just say "reading comprehension". It's literally the same thing ;p Tak na przyszłość ;)

In English we would call that "listening comprehension".

I would say "she understand but dont give a Fuck, she do her own way" Po polsku "Zrozumiała ma na to wyjebane, zrobi po swojemu".

Kobieta z woke propaganda dostala blue screena z logiki. Mam nadzieję, że dla lepszej jakości lokalizacji ta kobieta nie będzie pracować.

The thing is these people aren't hired to create or change the art they're hired to translate another culture's language.

yup, and clearly she has developed quite an ego over the work she has done, to the point where she has to give herself positive affirmations in public to justify her shitty work.

Well thats good to hear.

What are they saying lol

Is there any keyword so we can search for it on Twitter?

​@@aciesara5444 There's a RU-vidr HeroHei video called "It's so over for localizers." that shows what some Japanese anime fans are saying

@@aciesara5444 hero hei showed some translated tweets yesterday, and rev has a new video about it today

At least he can sleep well knowing that thousands of people are on his side after that incident.

It’s just the reality of these things. That room is filled with people who would lick the dirt off of her toes. They would’ve killed that dude if she told them to.

goddamnit this post is so accurate.

I already figured this out. I also will add, the people who seem to be losing out in regards to this but continue to support it, are either afraid to speak out or have found a way to benefit from it. This is why we need purges.

I hope he hears about all of that at some point

It was a problem for a while before that, but sure. Just swap back to fansubs.

if the humor remains the same but given a western understanding, that i'd say the mission and therefor job was accomplished interjecting personal agendas does not do that

I can only think of 1 instance where it worked out and it's Ghost Stories But not sure if it counts because they changed pretty much everything

ghost stories doesn't count because the owners of the IP didn't care and it generated them revenue. They were told to do whatever and they did. @@TMC_TimeLine If you want an example of bad localization working out somehow, FF7 comes to mind.

​@@BeatdownGGThat's actually a misconception. Ghost Stories was a pretty successful anime back in Japan (and even rivaled Pokemon and One Piece at times). The gag dub was mostly on the dubbing studio having a bit of a laugh because it was fun at the time. And the original creators clearly didn't care what happened to the localisation because it's not part of Japanese media anymore

@@sandspadaWhat about Funimation’s dub of Sgt. Frog? It wasn’t entirely accurate to the original, but it was at least fun to watch.

Humans are also notpriously bad at inputting their own flait, machines just give an exact copy

No it's not. AI translation, especially from and to Japanese, is really bad. The Japanese language is highly context dependent and there is no hope a machine can fully understand what is going. The solution here is to hire better translators that are not ideologically biased. It's not that hard.

and in this case, using context to change certain words. which is what machine learning is good at. Complaining about it would be like complaining about printing presses taking away the job from monks copying books by hand

all language is context dependent. a large portion of the innovation between the last two iterations of GPT, for example, is entirely related to context parsing. predictive text models aren't what you'd use for a translation job, but that isn't to say the framework isn't being currently built to manage the EXACT tasks required to successfully translate text. there's an incredible demand for it, and it's inevitable that it will be built well enough to be reliable. @@ancillarity edit: but yes, clearly hiring human translators who have actual integrity to completing the task accurately is the present-day bare minimum one would hopefully expect out of a company. Especially one as large as funimation.

1. Fans translate manga 2. Manga gets popular, gets licensed in English 3. Fans stop translating manga to support official release 4. You wait months/years for the official release 5. It gets released (a single volume costs $15 because reasons) 6. The names are wrong, lots of mistakes, shitty typesetting 7. You have no alternative, enjoy

My wife has her bachelor’s in Japanese and I have basically no knowledge besides basic things and anime speak… and yeah, even I can pick out a lot of weird translations in some shows. Those are usually relatively minor, just saying things oddly.

You are also paying for a way worse watching experience than the free alternative. So in a way you only pay these people.

i think boycott crunchy and funanimation is the only way to work

I think it's a problem of ego. These translators think they're just as important as the people actually making the medium, so they thusly think they have the right to make changes to the media as they see fit while translating it, even though they aren't supposed to.

Woolseyisms are a good example of a good localization. He basically made Kefka's personality and Japanese remakes even used it for the remakes. Also "son of a submariner" and "who do you think you are Bruce Lee?" are some of his best translation changes.

Eventually the ostrich has to pull it's head out of the sand to breathe

You're talking about Asmon and his incel audience, right? Cause that's exactly what they do...

​@@shauncowell6215 🤨

@@shauncowell6215 lmao you idiots are so fun to laugh at

​@@shauncowell6215'I understand your attempts at humor. I simply don't find them entertaining.'

how so? anime studios will take legal actions or something?

@@zodiarkful Japan has very strict IP laws... it's actually why I'm glad that trade agreement fell through. If they can find that these individuals have acted in bad faith they might take legal action. I don't know enough about these laws to say for certain, however, but I imagine brand damage will play a part.

@@zodiarkful they definitely can if enough people bring attention to it to be noticed by the author and studio. There have been cases of this that Seven Seas actually had to publicly apologize because the author and production company was threatening to sue them for a particular manga.

@@zodiarkful Well apparently they pissed off the creator or Director of Dragonmaid so much Funi lost the rights to do anymore with it. I only recently heard about this so don't know if it's true or not.

Asmon is apathetic as far as politics goes, thus he assists the worst people to continue winning.

​@@AhovWhat a cancerous argument to make.

@@KaNoMikoProductions It only stings because it's empirically correct. The truth hurts, especially for those that refuse to engage with reality.

He still won't be able to state the truth on a lot of subjects.

@@Ahov so "the worst people" in this context is people who want correct translations from localizers?

Did he? Can u share with me the clip?

@@DomonkasshuSD Only for a moment in this very video when he thought she was just the VA taking lines

The word you were looking for was "accountability".

look at what happened to Vic, guy was just openly Christian and that was enough for Jamie and her cliche to move to oust him from the industry and ruin his career.

Yeah, but you were laughing AT her, not WITH her. She has no self-awareness. None. Zero!

Oh, she's funny alright. A whole clown show 🥲