Woman Plays Fake Cop & Gets Life In Prison After Real Shooting. 

Quick Poll Would you have found her Guilty or Not Guilty?

The man who made the call did such an amazing job at giving detailed and relevant information.

This young lady threw away 40 years of her life over something that she had nothing to do with

What still baffles me to this day is the fact she put herself into a situation that had NOTHING to do with her then chased someone down and shot them.

When she was on the phone and was told to not follow the car for her own safety, I bet in her head she thought "Oh, don't worry about my own safety. I have this gun I have been dying to use."

If she had just listened to the 911 operator and stayed at the scene of the accident, she would just be dealing with insurance and not murder. Now you are in court crying because someone is dead and your life is ruined.

Her argument was he attacked her and the gun went off, flip that around for one minute, she chased him and pulled a gun on him and he tried to disarm her. If some crazy woman cuts you off causing a collision and then jumps out waving a gun in your face quite a number of people would got into the fight or flight mode. She is the aggressor no matter which way you look at it.

The way she said, "I'm safe, but he ain't," sickens me. This woman is someone who was clearly looking to throw her weight around and make herself some kind of "hero". Hope she serves every minute of her sentence.

If I heard everything correctly. She had little to no vested interest in the situation. Injected herself into the situation. Ultimately, she made the situation worse for herself and the guy.

"He pulled the trigger on my gun in my hand" has to be right up there with "she hit my fist with her eye"

It's completely unreasonable for her to have her gun pointed at the man in his car so close that he could possibly pull the trigger himself. By creating that situation she is guilty.

This reminds me of a quote: the path to hell is paved with good intentions. Just because you think you are doing good, doesn't mean that you are.

This is exactly why she was told to not follow and to return to the scene of the accident. The guy had a wrecked front end and they were saying that he wasnt going to get far before the vehicle overheated. The first caller gave enough information that as soon as they had the tag number the cops would probably find the guy pretty quickly.

The way she said on the stand that she was just telling him to come back the original accident scene, as if she was being civil and just informing him to go back...when you can clearly hear her SCREAMING at him to "get the F out of the car!". She has no remorse and deserves every day of getting old in prison. If shes lucky she'll get out by the time she is the victim's age.

A stark reminder to keep cool and don’t let your anger get out of control.

You can't go around acting like you are Judge Dredd and then cry self defense when things go bad.

Nate The Lawyer is so good at clearly explaining stories that even I feel smart.

The guy was reportedly going through diabetic shock when Payne confronted him.

By the time of your summary at the end, I had come to the same conclusion. She violated the cardinal rules of self-defense; do not pursue, do not escalate. By the time the trigger was actually pulled, who exactly did so was completely academic. So even if you assume her testimony on that point of fact is the truth, she still fails the self-defense argument.

It should be noted that there weren't any drugs or alcohol in his system

Number 1 rule of concealed carry: avoid confrontation at all cost.

Why she pull a gun? Dumb moves are often followed by harsh reality.

That caller who initially called in was so on point with the info, description. I just watched a body cam video and some of those callers can’t even name the cross street they live at, absolutely ridiculous.

It doesn't get mentioned enough that she shot an unarmed man, in broad daylight, over a traffic incident, and the cop is so calm and cool with her at first.

"He pulled the trigger on MY gun!" "I'm safe, but he ain't!" Remember folks, don't do your shootings while on the phone with the police.

Thanks for covering this story. I had heard about it and it sounded like a woman had been attacked trying to do the right thing and then found guilty of defending herself. After this it is clear she was not in any danger and inserted herself where she didn’t need to. Moral of the story: Mind your business.

Kudos to the male caller tho. Almost sounded like he's an off duty officer.

Even if her claim that he attacked her was true, she was committing the crime of aggravated assault at the time by pointing a gun at him and barking orders, so she has no self defense claim.

Absolutely guilty. IT WAS NONE OF HER BUSINESS. His family should file a civil suit. She murdered him.

HOW is a life sentence 'harsh' when SHE LITERALLY TOOK HIS LIFE?! Hard disagree.

Yeah it sucks to watch someone get away with a crime, but if you’re carrying, you have a greater responsibility than someone who isn’t. Your “duty” is not to escalate the situation, cause a confrontation, nor is it your job to prevent an additional crime from taking place. We literally learned this from the Travon Martin case; your duty is to observe and report until such time as your life is threatened.

This makes me glad that they did not treat her like a woman. They treated her equally.

😂😂😂 the nerve of her to think she wasn't going to prison.

“He pulled the trigger on my gun” that sound shady as hell

She's absolutely guilty. On one hand, the sentencing seems harsh, but on the other hand, the other person lost their life. She created the situation after the accident chasing him down.

I’ll just leave this here since “Fernando Ortega” blocked me after I replied to his comment that said “this wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t for the police response time” by saying it had nothing to do with response time. His reply to my comment was “apparently you weren't listening in the beginning of the vid” Here is the reply I tried to post to that comment: I watched the entire trial, not just 1 or 2 min clips. I saw all the video, multiple times. In fact, there were multiple accidents in the area where this happened at that time. It has nothing to do with their response times. She decided she was going to handle it because she had a gun so she was “safe”. Not her job and she acted with no authority. She had many opportunities to prevent this from happening but she chose her actions. She didnt have to chase him down, dodging traffic and almost causing accidents herself. Having done that she could have just gotten his plate and told 911. She chose to cut him off by pulling the front of her car into his lane. Having done that she could have just sat in her car til the cops came. Instead she choose to get out of her car and approach him. She chose to scream at him to get out of the car and then when he didnt she choose to pull out her gun. She chose to scream at him “I will shoot you.” She chose to put herself into his window. This is all on her.

If someone is slurring their words and falling over, he might not be drunk. He might be diabetic.

I'm a CCDW instructor in my jome state. I tell every one of my students that if you can't stay out of other people's business you have no business carrying a gun. "Tending to your oun knitting" is what i call it. This in my opinion is a lot like the Abrey case where people that didn't have a horse in the race stepped in and sent themselves to prison trying to do what they thought was right!

A person who accidentally shoots someone during a struggle always seem distraught. She seemed proud of herself about ending the ongoing threat. She shot that man and then tried to play victim.

I can understand following the truck just to give a description of the truck, the driver and the license plate And that is it. Because then it’s up to the police officers to decide what is best for this situation.

All she had to do was get the plates and leave. Karens really have a hard time not trying to play the authority. Play stupid games, win stupid problems. Can't feel sorry for someone who tried acting like she was the main character of a action movie.

"he pulled the trigger on my gun!" sheesh will no woman ever take some accountability?

This girl stuck her damn nose where it didn't belong. She had no business chasing this man down like she was someone important. She should have stayed her a$$ where she was and let the real authorities handle it.

I would like to also remind everyone that law enforcement has no obligation to protect you or your belongings.

Bottom line is she should have minded her own business and listened to dispatch. Could have saved everyone a lot of pain and hardship.

She had her defense planned out, almost as if she had thought this through before it happened. Saying, "He pulled the trigger of my gun" to the 911 dispatcher. I feel like she was setting up her self defense claims before she cut him off and caused the accident.

A Karen from Clayton County, GA! WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED? She should spend the rest of her round-faced life in prison.

Correction: She was in fact giving life imprisonment with the possibility of parole. Since, the crime occurred in Georgia, she will eligible for parole after 30 years of incarceration.

Ugh, clear-cut case of being a vigilante. Getting the plate is one thing, but saying she's going to follow him so he doesn't "cause another accident" is just stupid--especially when she was told specifically not to. Guilty is the right verdict. The sentence might be a bit extreme, but definitely a long jail sentence is needed.

Imagine being on the phone with someone who is actively murdering another person

This case underscores how important it is to know exactly what you are doing before you ever even consider making a citizens arrest. If she was a police officer she would have simply gotten a reprimand for poor tactics.

It's interesting to see somebody make the worst possible choice at every opportunity.

The sentence is even more severe than you stated. Tacked on to life with a possibility of parole are consecutive (not concurrent) 8 years for false imprisonment and another consecutive 5 years for gun use during a felony. She comes from a state that a conceal carry license is obtained by just paying a fee not with mandatory education. Her understanding of when she can lawfully use the gun she is carrying was very poor. This is a tragedy for everyone involved.

I have zero sympathy for this woman. She murdered that man and without any hesitation lied to the dispatcher painting herself as the victim. Seems like she intended to do exactly what she did, kidding herself thinking she could lie and make it look justified.

If I recall the guy wasn't drunk he was having a diabetic reaction but I could be wrong. Either way she wasn't a cop and she was told NOT TO FOLLOW and return to the accident. Other 911 witness call says she cut him off and pulled out her gun yah she was screwed up she's guilty took a life for stupid reason.

She is going where she belongs!! She was told to not follow him! To go back to where the accident happened!! But no she decided to cut him off pull a gun and shoot a man!! For a minor accident!! She played cop, judge and jury on the street!!! Gave this man the death penalty!! Now she can pay for her actions!! 😢my sympathy to this man's family 😔🙏

This Narcissist IS Right where She BELONGS !

I think that you have it exactly right. She would have done better to have pleading guilty of involuntary manslaughter if the prosecution would have taken her plea. Should have would have could have. There are many people who would like to help out, but you can't cross the line and become a vigilante. If you carry a weapon for self-defense, you should be even more cautious about your actions. You should be more willing to step back. You should be more likely to be the peacemaker because when it comes down to it and you have to pull your weapon, you're taking a big gamble. Do you save your life and possibly go to prison? Or do you put yourself in a situation where you have to make that split second decision of who lives and who dies? Once she stepped out of that vehicle with her weapon she made her choice and it was a very bad one. The pistol quit being her protector and became her convector and unfortunately the man's executioner. Like you said, you can't claim self-defense if you're the aggressor. As far as a life sentence, she has the possibility of parole and I think that more than likely she will appeal the sentence. I believe that the conviction was correct. As far as the sentence? I think it was meant to send a message.

The operator tried to tell her what (not) to do. She consciously and verbally refused and affirmed that she would do it her way. I don’t know why she wanted to involve herself so bad but here we are… It’s a sad situation all around, though I will say my sympathy for her is limited given her actions/choices

That’s what happens when you defund the police. It shouldn’t take 20 minutes in the city for police and an ambulance to show up to an incident. People have to be out of their mind to carry a firearm without any weapon training.

That 911 caller is one of the best callers I ever heard.

People get hurt quite often when they try to do the job of police. Specially when it comes to theft and car accidents. Unless you or someone else is in imminent danger dont get involved. its a property crime, be a good witness and let police deal with it.

She actually murdered a man because of a minor traffic accident???? WTAF...our world has gone insane. Life is a very long time but she did chase him down...she did accost him...she did pull a gun and threaten to shoot him...and she shot him. She murdered him...because of a minor traffic accident.

My question is why was there such a slow response by law enforcement and medical services. I see this a lot and it is disturbing. We had an accident that it took 45 minutes for an officer and ambulance to arrive. It was stated in the 911 call that there serious injuries involved. During that 45 minutes one driver had died. There should be investigations and repercussions when things like this happen.

Guilty she broke so many aspects of what a citizen has a RIGHT to do GUILTY as charged

Even if he was intentioning trying to flee, you can’t play cop.

This is a case were common sense went out the window 😢

I followed a drunk driver once on my way to work at 4:00 a.m. I couldn't read the tag and I don't know one car from the other. I called the police and then followed him to his house and parked down the street till the cops came. I never got close to him, and he stated in court that he didn't even know I followed him. I would not have done it if I could have gotten the tag number. Dispatcher never said not to follow him but she did say not to engage with him. He got 1 year in county jail for it, his 3rd DUI

A beautiful reminder to always have a destination while driving. An idle mind is the devil's playground. She had nothing better to do so she played cop. Now she has the rest of her life to realize that you do not PLAY cop.

She took more than a picture, she took his life. 😲

She had so many chances to stop and turn around🤦‍♂️ definitely one of those situations you’d wish you had a Time Machine

It’s to bad that she got involved like that . She has thrown her life away .

Nate, I appreciate your accurate reporting and showing of the evidence. Wish you the best.

Are you doing a video of the Trump Colorado ruling. I would love to know how they can make him ineligible due to inciting a insurrection when he has never been found guilty of inciting an insurrection. It seems like the court found him guilty of something he was never charged with and based the ruling off that

"He pulled the trigger on my gun". Yeah, I don't believe that Ms. Baldwin. The hell are you doing following someone and stepping out to confront them with a firearm? I carry everywhere I go too but I'm not about to go after someone especially for an accident that didn't even happen to me. The guy was likely impaired yes and it's hard to fell bad for him, but lady, you messed up BIG TIME. Those of us who keep arms are already under enough lopsided scrutiny as it is. What she did is unacceptable. Guilty.

The first 911 caller deserves a medal for their determination and calm demeanor. Absolutely love your channel, Nate.

I love how she chases him against police recommendations, runs up to his car, orders him to get out at gunpoint, shoots him and then tells the 911 operator “he attacked me” 🤦🏾‍♂️. You can’t make this up.

Why was she so physically close they got in a fight over her gun? After waiting 20 minutes for cops to show up it's reasonable to follow him as he escaped but there was no reason to corner his vehicle with hers then run up right next to him with a lethal weapon.

I would have found her Not Guilty of murder, but absolutely Guilty of 1st Degree Manslaughter (or whatever's the equivalent). She was wrong in every possible way but not a murderer.

Life sentence with no parole is ridiculous when they give actual hardened murderers way less all the time.

LOL @ the picture of “Georgia”. 😂

You play stupid games and you win stupid prizes

Hearing the call really solidified this case. She should have never confronted him with gun a drawn. The whole episode is sad but she is largely to blame. The 911 operator did give confusing commands but nothing she said excuses the defendants actions she is fully responsible for the results of her choice to approach the victim.

Nate, I agree with you. Criminally negligent homicide or aggravated manslaughter... something like that. She was recklessly irresponsible, but - in her mind - she was stopping a drunk driver when emergency responders failed to show up. From his perspective, none of this would have happened if police and medical had shown up in a timely fashion. As maddening as the situation is, she received a longer sentence than some people who commit pre-meditated murder.

Doesn't sound like it was malice or intent, just a case of entitlement and main character syndrome. She escalated this, and if she is to be believed about getting into a tussle and the trigger getting accidentally pulled or knocked. Through her own decisions and rash judgement, another person is dead. She deserves prison time, just not for first degree murder.

My only issue is if this guy is having some sort of health issue then him driving away could cause another accident which could kill someone. I think every person has a duty to prevent that. Obviously she did not do a good job of it. But life in prison seems like a woke sentence. If the colors were reversed would she have gotten the same sentence?

Not only did she play judge, jury, and executioner, she put herself in a situation that didn’t even involve her!

The fact that they had more than enough to track him later makes this so much more insane

I agree with most of the comments. Definitely guilty. Life seems a bit harsh compared to other situations

Just where are these people getting the idea they can just kill people? In her mind she was going to foil some crime?

She's 100% guilty. The 911 dispatcher told her clearly and multiple times "do not follow him." The dispatcher even scolded her by saying "Ma'am, you were not supposed to follow him." She wanted to play the hero, when all she had to do was let the police handle it. Suppose he really did pull the trigger in a tussle and shot himself. Does that change anything? No, she had no right to be there, she had no right to stop him, she had no right to pull her gun out on him, everything she did was wrong.

“He pulled the trigger of my gun while it was in my hand” lol okay

Wow. That is the most clearcut case of first degree murder that I've ever seen on video anyway. She pursued him,a stranger to her involved in an incident that had zero to do with her. She accosted him physically and shot him IN HIS HEAD and killed him. She's a murderer guilty of first degree murder

I live right by where this happened. This woman had a gun, thought she was some kind of authority, and killed a man in cold blood. I’m glad we are protected from her. May she never get out of jail again.

It keeps being argued that she chased him down because he was intoxicated, implying that she was concerned with the wellbeing of other drivers on the road. But if that was the case, she would have NEVER pulled a handgun in the middle of a busy intersection.

Thank you for not making this about racism. Its a shame, there are people you can't mind their business.

1. I don't think there's any reasonable objection to someone just FOLLOWING the perpetrator of a hit and run, as long as the "pursuer" still follows traffic laws and doesn't attempt anything beyond collecting information to pass along to the police. 2. The problem is created when the pursuer attempts to intervene in some way. Which, this woman apparently did...while armed, and attempted to portray herself as an officer (at least in authority). 3. I don't know if her sentence is appropriate for the crime. However, it's undeniable that her punishment is NOT consistent with other criminals who committed WORSE crimes in WORSE ways for WORSE reasons. Perhaps she deserves a lighter sentence or they deserved harsher sentences. The problem is the disparity and inconsistent treatment. For instance: Bernie Madoff received 150 years for a Ponzi Scheme.

you covering news stories like this, and the way you put everything together is just AHHHMAZING!! keep it up Nate the Lawyer! 💜

That caller remembered a lot of detail. Credit to him. She took the law into her own hands and didnt listen to the operator. He was wrong to flee, but that doesnt permit anyone to take vigilante action.

Why was she not handcuffed once the officer took her weapon? That is not protocol. He doesn't know what happened so he should secure the perpetrator and the scene. I'm sure the man's family that has lost him for life doesn't think it's too much time. Besides, she got life with the possibility of parole. She could be out withing five to seven years. She'll be alright. Her lawyer should have tried a reckless endangerment plea.