Soviets invaded Afghanistan in the 80s. They lost/pulled out. The US supported the Mujahideen. CIA supplied them with stinger missiles to knock out the soviet gunships that were tearing them up. As we all know now, that little move came back and bit us in the a** on 9/11 .
@@EddieLeal Well to be frank, the Mujahideen weren't a single group, but multiple groups who opposed the Soviets with varying ideals, one of those groups would be the precursors to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, while others were precursors of the Northern Alliance. The Mujahideen pretty much hated each other but formed a coalition out of common opposition against the Soviets, so the US pretty much supplied anyone who opposed them, either they were moderates or fanatics.
I’d definitely reenlist to fight off a Russian invasion. It’s one of my weird wishes outta life, only over here though. I’ve read all about their homeland, I refuse to suffer what Hitler and Napoleon put their bois through. 😂🩸🍷
@@itwasselfdefenseofficer3668 well, for one, they attacked the most PUSSYFIED part of the USA, THE WEST COAST!!!! THEY WOULD HAVE NEVER!!!!!! ATTACKED THE SOUTH EAST!!!!!!!!!!
It got all the attention it deserved. WiC was extremely well received, got overall good scores and sold pretty well (being in top charts for a while). The only reason we never got a sequel is because the golden era of RTS came to an end and the genre became less popular. Massive Entertainement later worked on a Farcry 3, Assassin's Creed and The Division which were more popular genres at the time.
@@Cowkill Exactly! Now everyone is rushing out online shooting games so that they can sell season passes and lootboxes. Its not just successful RTS like WiC or COH that are shelfed, but any game that has a single player campaign element. Why spent all the resource to write a story when you can keep on selling some character skins to kids that screams into their mic each night.
Soviet Media: “Our glorious men fighting in America are close to achieving victory.” Romanov: “We’ve barely made it out of Seattle and we know we’ve already lost.”
@@paraguaymike5159 so basically fascist peoples rises in the name of anti facism?no offense but those people were probably the stupidest peoples ever exist(im not from america so i don't know such thing happens)
@@Bikavin Basically, what's happening is that the Antifa thinks they're fighting 'fascists', but their methods and what they're advocating is way too similar to what the actual historical fascists are advocating. Personally, the Antifa, BLM, those movement lose all credibility in my eyes when they started painting every white people who doesn't side with them like how the Nazis painted every jew in the world. The 1619 Project is BLMs version of Mein Kampf.
@@Bikavin Unfortunately, they do exist. Those pricks lack a lot of self awareness to realize that what they're doing is similar to what they're fighting against.
I beg to differ. The reason I hated the game story was exactly because of to the shitty propaganda. The american tank commander was a craven coward, murderer and a war criminal but he died a hero. While a prominent russian commander had to be turned evil because, reasons... Not to mention that for some reason the colonel suddenly realises that he and his men are the bad guys... Not biased my ass.
@@stefanstoyanov7460 Big disagree. Kolya wasnt evil per se, given what he's been through and indoctrination of propaganda, it's not unreasonable to see him act the way he did. Bannon would have been radicalized and acted the same as Kolya if the Soviets accidentally killed his family during the invasion
@@stefanstoyanov7460 Comment above is right IMO. Good men turn bad in situations like this. I mean, civilians blending in and then attacking later? Almost like theres been a few unpopular wars like that
Well yes and no. It showed the more human aspect of both sides rather then just Yankees good, Ivan bad. That was still premier with the characters but yeah
Game was ahead of its time. The story was just as great. Focusing on each person's story from redemption,revenge ,friends,honor and loyalty. Gives you a unique perspective on how each characters story unfolds.
An unintentional war crime. Bannon was like most young bucks, looking to prove themselves. Dispite his screwups, none of the 4 except him made the ultimate sacrifice for his country.
Bannon had heart, but he was flawed. He becomes more and more humane the more I see his cutscenes. Earnestly, if the times were different, I can see Sawyer taking Bannon under his wing and mentoring him into a fine officer. Heck, in the initial Seattle invasion, he basically acts like a young Sawyer to begin with.
@@metaparcel Yes, He made a mistake but there is a big difference morally between a mistake made in the fog of war such as mistaking a mass of on coming people as an infantry formation in the midst of a battle and an intentional war crimes like murdering prisoners, or raping civilians.
@@Aden_III assuming Russia wouldn't use its extensive CBR options Which is unrealistic The best way to silence a militia is to ensure that they won't breath
Remember when Zune battled iPod for MP3 Player dominance.. do they even make iPods anymore? (looked it up, the iPod Touch 7th Generation is still in production since it's release in 2019)
The Army banter in this game is so on-point. Definitely a bunch of Army guys that either developed or were involved in the development of this game. What a masterpiece.
considering that it is a Swedish studio that developed the game so the chance is that the majority of the developers had done mandatory military service before they worked on the game
props to WiC to actually giving the National Guard a good role in warfare. we aren't reservists, we're the support companies maintaining these vehicles and fighting alongside our counterparts in the U.S. Army
@@gremlin_uwu ehh, Western training for it is overrated. IIRC only something like 5% of all exercises held in the last two years involved NATO and before that there were no joint brigade-level exercises at all
"A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one." In all seriousness, I ADORE this game. Partly because 1/3 of it takes place in my home state of Washington IN A GOOD WAY. Plus it puts the Real Time in Real Time Strategy. Plus the fire support options are just a delight to call in and watch fuck up the opposition. I'm also a big fan of the developers. When they wanted to move on but saw that their game still had a cult following, they released the source code onto the internet. Plus the permanent scarring of the land when you call in fire support is another massive treat.
The most amazing thing about this game is the graphics have aged like fine wine. Some of the models are a little angular, but everything - and I do mean EVERYTHING - looks just as good as it did when it first released. And the story was something you'd just never see today.
If I ever make a military game, I'd want it to look like this. Not only because it already looks good, but because the graphics are low enough to run on slower computers, allowing for more people to play with fewer problems
@@DEFC0NZER0How's the multiplayer these days? I wanted to play with my friends for nostalgia sake but I see the servers are down, so how do I go about playing online with my friends again outside of LAN?
I prefer graphics like this but the game should and must have a storyline and gameplay like this game. I also just realized the loading screen for the US storyline is narrated by Alec Baldwin.
17:44 I love this conversation. Dvds were phasing out VHS's around that time. And the conversation sounds how Americans would conversate too. Many games, they just have soldiers talking about fighting, plans, tactics..etc
''There is no room for truth on that machine'' A sentence so simple yet so powerful given the current situation they were in, reality was already right in front of them, Orlovsky saw the truth in the future, while Lebedev, although having denying what truth he wants to fight for, but in the end he came around, not for the sake of the machine, but for his comrades who will live on to fight another day, maybe for themselves, not for the machine.
@@culturalliberator9425 Lebedev has the Minister of Defense as his father in law. I doubt anything bad would happen to him. Although, heads would indeed roll (maybe something akin to Stalin-level purges of officers). And should the truth of the costly Soviet defeat in America were to reach the public (which would have been inevitable at some point), there would be civil unrest within the Soviet Union. The Iron Curtain was already cracking prior to the war starting. The ground war in Europe was successful but came at a high cost and was in a bloody stalemate. In time it would prove to be a short lived victory, and a pyrrhic one at that. The United States would be back on the offensive, and the failure of the Soviet invasion of the West Coast would cause many Americans to join the fight. Patriotic volunteers would swell (like what happened after Pearl Harbor) and may help turn the tide in Europe. Just as Nazi Germany paid a high price for failing to defeat the USSR, the Soviet themselves, exhausted and having endured heavy casualties in Europe and America, may face a similar fate. But I like to think the main goal of NATO (which was in similar circumstances in terms of casualties) at this point was to gain back what was lost. Invading Russia itself never turned out well. However, the Warsaw Pact might be on the brink (and pissed off at the USSR for wasting their men in the US) and some nations may turn on their Russian allies. Germany more than likely since their country was the most heavily damaged during the war. NATO could try to take the Baltic states and maybe push into Central Europe to take Poland if it was possible. From my time spent there, the locals don't care for the Russians. But given the high cost that has been paid in the war, NATO would return to the bargaining table and pressure the Soviets to sue for peace. I think 3 World Wars in one century was three too many for all involved. After the liberation of Seattle, China decided to go back on their deal with the Soviets and stay out of the fight and play the long game; letting the Superpowers kill each other and play their hand when the opportunity presents itself. I don't know the situation in Asia, but it's likely countries like Iraq and North Korea invaded their neighbors while the superpowers were distracted. South Korea would have a tough fight, but I doubt North Korea would be able to win without help from the USSR or China. Japan would probably be planning for a Chinese Invasion. So maybe there would be a Pacific Front in WW3, who knows. As expected, the rest of the world would be in a complete mess. The lack of aid and support from a war weary U.S., Europe, and USSR may cause new wars in explode in places like Central & South America, Africa, and the Middle East. I did mention Iraq before. It was the major military power in the ME at this time so Kuwait is likely screwed. Desert Storm will likely not happen after the end of WW3. The rest of the Gulf States would have a tough fight against Iraq without Western aid so they may just let Iraq keep Kuwait. Iran suffered greatly during their war with Iraq, but they may fear starting another war. It could unleash a massive war in the Middle East with the Gulf States taking them on instead of Iraq alone. Syria and Lebanon as their only allies may not be enough. Still, a Middle Eastern Theatre of WW3, or really a Sunni vs Shia war could happen. Lebedev is a shrewd man. He probably saw how fruitless the American invasion was and knew what was coming as did Orlovsky. The ending hinted that Lebedev is planning something when he returns home. Probably taking part into some internal struggle for power in the USSR. I think WW3, or at least the one in Europe, would end with a coup in the Soviet Union; similar to its fall in our timeline as hardliners tried and failed to take control of the Russian government. A sequel could have opened up new campaigns for these scenarios that go beyond the American vs Russian ones. But we'll never know.
Well, none if them was supposed to return home in the first place. The Soviet invasion of America was supposed to force them to back off from Europe and pave the way for the Red Horde.
@@cashwat210 I think, and I could be conflating this with one of the Tom Clancy books, that in WiC's timeline the USSR is experiencing a massive grain shortage and reaches out to the West for aid and didn't get any, which allowed them to whip up war support and justify an invasion of Europe. I'm rather curious about what the Middle East was looking like during WiC. As for Asia... Stalin spent a week or so cutting down occupying IJA forces in China, and if I remember right he didn't bother giving the territories back. The Chinese might well have decided to reclaim those territories by force in this hypothetical post World War 3 world.
The battle of burger king... I remember it for I was in it...it started when a small improvement to the whopper happened... a impossible whopper... and the line was l- oh you mean that
I just like the story plays out, especially in the Soviet Assault expansion where it interchangebly changes and alternates between US and Soviet forces and how the story told in backwards, i love this game! What an RTS gem
I still have the game installed in my PC. GOG version. Still stuck on that bridge during the American retreat. I keep restarting the game whenever I get back to it.
1:12:58 _"And now that the Chinese had declared themselves our allies, victory was supposedly within reach - again. But we knew better..."_ *Sad strings crescendo* Man, when a game makes you weep for the defeat of the aggressors of a global war you know you're experiencing art.
@@Uthic The last one is here I go again, tears for fears plays during the opening to NATO cutscene I'm pretty sure (and in the invasion of america cutscene)
One of the most beautiful games that I've ever played, a masterpiece that all the RTS players should play once time at least! Thank you for this video!
What I liked about the game most were its little bits of heroism. In one cutscene the Americans are watching the Russians parachute in at night and a Abrams rolls up. The driver pops out but he's not in uniform. He's in a black vest, he looks like a biker. Leads you to think, maybe he's ex-Army. They need people so badly they're recalling veterans. When we are introduced to Captain Bannon and Parker, the Seattle Police are at the barricades firing their revolvers at the oncoming Russians. Their pistols against an army!
Wow, the Soviets are extremely reserved considering how they treated the populace of other countries they've invaded. Not to mention the fact that Amaricans actually fight back.
@@Chinmeng420 That's a funny excuse. I don't remember them stopping when they went to the heart of Germany or to Japan, the ones that had never even set foot on their soil. We both know the truth don't lie.
@@Chinmeng420 Oh, yeah if this was realistic the Soviets would have been swiss cheese but games got to be games I suppose. Yeah, I was talking about the Soviets not... Mass... Um... You know Japan Styling the civilians.
I have that on a box some where. I was so hyped for this game when it came out. I saved up money in middle school mowing lawns to buy a laptop that could play it. Good fuckin times.
Love how Colonel Sawyer being sniped from start to end but never gets hit and always call for an ambulance for all his assistants that being hit instead.
20:01 Up until this point I thought this was all on the east coast. And thought Seattle was below NYC. Even tho I only live a few miles away from Seattle. I was so confused why the red was in the west and then remembered "Oh right I'm high as fuck Seattle is on the west coast ohhh"
the best part of this games story is just how much it's dripping with humanity. everyone feels real and relatable. it's so well done, especially the phone calls, and letters home
nah, didn't feel too bad about him. felt more worse for his casualties. i commend him though for his willingness to sacrifice his unit to buy the rest his of colleagues some time.
Sure he was a reckless cowboy but overall he was an irreplaceable Commanding officer. He can still do a good job. The problem he has is that he needs to stop acting like an ass of himself and do the right thing.
The graphics was fucking awesome for the time, it came out. And IMO, it is still one of the best real time strategy/tactic game concepts. Limited units and a goal. Not just team deathmatch. I liked to play it online very much
Never once played this game but it popped up on my recommended and it looks amazing after watching this vid. Crazy how there was stuff out like this when I was only 2 years old.
The invasion of Ulraine happening right now immediately reminded me of the cinematic @0:26. It is eerie how even the UN security council being staggered while "high level diplomatic talks were still going on as the first shots were fired" in Ukraine. Unfortunately, seems like this part was cut out of the cinematic.
I thought about this too today and came back to this. I think its fortunate that modern-day Russia appears more inept than the video game and with much less domestic support. Dangerous, but inept.
@@danyleon4870 Yup. When playing with one of my longtime gaming buddies you could hear the explosions in the background from the shelling and bombing of Donetsk.
Damn, 1:24:12 gave me some serious Vietnam war flashbacks back then when I tried finishing this mission in the hardest difficulty. just trying to balance and keep the 5 Abrams that you have alive trying to fight literal dozens of Russian medium and heavy tanks and anti tank infantry was an extremely traumatizing experience. Great game though lmao
this entire game has led up to mike getting some god damn batteries from seattle, but THEN YOU MUTED THE SONG ? THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE ENTIRE GAME
Oh boy this brings back so much memories, this game was so good for its time. The storyline was even better than a lot of movies, and the graphics were also marvelous. I miss the good ole days.
Hell the Govenors of California / Washington/ and Oregon along with BLM and ANTIFA would let the Soviets and Chinese come right on in lol... Yea the Conservatives in the rural ares would fight along US troops but the cities are Marxist trash on the Left coast......
@@CETGale oh yeah, if the nazis came ultra rightist would adore em.just like patton did lol. Well, they technically had nazi supporters before ww2 and many skinheads and neo nazis after ww2. Ya'll a bunch of rich fatty tank asses
@@mastercaon5209 There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That’s 1 firearm for every 12 people on the planet. The only question is, how do we arm the other 11?
@@mastercaon5209 it's missatributed to admiral Yamamoto of the imperial Japanese navy, who knows where it really came from but it wasn't either of those people.
It's overlooked, but in the second American Mission when Anton picked up the Pacifier the woman's baby dropped to give it to her was just something I couldn't not smile at.
Soviet navy being a threat in the west "ok, I can kinda see that, unlikely, but sure." Soviet navy being a major threat in the Pacific "Alright now we are getting a little crazy here" China having a blue water navy capable of being combat effective across the ocean and also having the transports to bring a meaningful force across into the heavily clogged by the Soviets Seattle pocket in 1989 "NOW THIS IS FANTASY"
Even of they repurposed their commercial ships they still wouldn't have enough in terms of numbers or materials needed to supply an expeditionary force. China's strength is numbers but lucky for the world they don't have the capability to wage war far away from their borders.
You're severely underestimating Soviet naval power. The story explains the Soviets coming in with surprises first off, second off, the Soviet Navy is roughly even if not as great as their NATO counterparts.
@@taelorpickel2830 in the game or irl? I know the Soviets had a sizeable blue water fleet, but it's purpose was to defend from NATO naval invasions/strikes, not project conventional war power across the globe.
I was disappointed that Sabatier died, I remember completing the mission objectives extra fast after I learned he had a family back in Paris. But he still died because of fucken Bannon
World in Conflict is by far the most UNDERATED strategy game I've ever played. I'm so happy that I got a key on Steam when I did. Such an amazing game.
I remember loving this game as a kid. I appreciated how, in a similar fashion to the original Red Dawn, you get to see both sides of the conflict and can sympathize with some of the enemy characters. Even though I got pretty invested in _defendin' muh couuuntry,_ I remember liking Colonel Orlovsky a lot; he seemed like a noble guy who didn't deserve to be there. He was also pretty smart about avoiding pissing off the occupied populace any more than necessary, whereas most villains would probably just double down on the repression and needlessly exacerbate the situation. On a side note, I love how quickly the cops at the beginning of the invasion just nope the hell out of there when they see the HINDs coming at them. They don't do anything cheesy like stand there so you can get a close-up shot of their reactions or anything like that, they just instantly jump back in their cars and hit the reverse like "Oh FUCK, I'm not getting paid enough for _this!"_
Kinda odd how NATO, standing just a few feet away, didnt notice the build-up of tanks in East-Berlin and didnt even listen in on that nice speech at 06:00 LOL
They were, if you play the game, your met with a horde of M1 Abrams. Later, they'll perform an all out attack with hundreds of armor just for it to get flattened by Tu-95s(How? Before the initial invasion, a Spetsnaz detachment destroyed NATO SAM sites). America was prepared, but Russia's horde was endless and merciless.
@@pilotman9819 funnily enough I encountered a glitch at the first mission where it immediately ended as soon as I started occupying the 17th June Street and I obviously wasn't awarded medals for it
if we can't get a sequel for this, at least we should get a remaster! both cutscenes and gameplay with significantly improved graphics and playable in native 4k.
I wish this game got the attention it deserved (and a remaster would be dope). There's obviously the inaccuracy but again alternate history games rock! Another thing to note is that the Soviets should've cut the trans-Atlantic cable that connects us to Europe. We wouldn't be able to communicate with the Euros or even our own units stationed there.
I would buy a remake/part 2 of this game for me and all my friends. I still play it occasionally, just to feel the nostalgia and mechanics of a well balanced yet simple RTS game. This game is underrated and made by a great studio that sadly got eaten up by the vastness of Ubisoft.. Shame..
This was one of my more favorite games I've played. Hours upon hours on the campaign n multi-player at the time. It's a shame they didn't continue this into a series n continued the story of this ww3 lol I will always hope for a second game, but I'm sure it's never going to happen by this point
As soon as I say the Burger King all I could hear was "Ramirez! Defend the Burger Town!" Though in the cutscene I'd imagine it'd be "Ramirez! Take that Burger King!" Also I love the whole side story of one guy just trying to get some batteries for a CD player.
I like that they decided to make characters in this game as opposed to soulless archetypes. Bannon, the man in france who had something to prove, to the failson, doomed to shame in Seattle, eventually gaining the recognition he desperately wanted but not merely for personal accolades. Paying the ultimate price.
Man .... Didn't even remember the story to be so ... human. For a story about nuclear weapons and global war it really looks a lot into the characters. They really didn't have to do that but they went the extra mile. Amazing !!! :D
33:58 Mark Ivanir has such a distinct voice. First time i've heard him was Call of Duty 2 when he makes a comment about using potatoes for grenade training. And 15 years later when I decided to pick up the metro series I heard him voice Eugine in Metro 2033, Pavel from Metro Last Light and Krest in Metro Exodus.
@@DoomGuy69420 Then what are you talking about? The OP was talking about the scenario happening in the game was possible, and you're randomly talking about modern Russia against NATO. Which by the way Russia is decisively winning.
this story often focusses on Morals. which is something most people don't even lay an eye on when discussing topics like war. it's all about the interesting stuff, weapons, production capabilities, etc. that all overshadows Humanity's Vision on the true value of life.
Sooooooo, seeing as how the political world is devolving right at this exact moment, I find it very fitting to do a play through of this game again. The graphics aged VERY well, the game still looks AMAZING. One of the best RTS games ever. Hopefully humans are around in the future to play it again 😂😂 anyways, may you all have a wonderful day 💜
Wait the soviets invaded the US by hiding on cargo ships? Imagine someone receiving a package and a russian soldier comes out lmao “I didn’t order soviet invasion wtf”
Rather, they travelled under the guise of being neutral cargo ships (not that difficult since many military cargo ships are civilian cargo ships that are requisitioned).
