Lemme get this straight. You told him he should cut the drywall and cement board to the studs? Why would you hire anyone you’d have to explain this to?
This looks like an unsupervised apprentice or a home owner's work but it could be someone you pick up from the big box store parking lot. You get what you pay for.
As a contractor with over 30 years in business, my clients pay for my experience and with experience comes expertise. I do not beg for work with low prices.
i agree with this but as someone who has paid little -> got crap and paid big -> got crap. Ask to see pictures of the person's work. Sign a contract with the person who is doing the job. Unfortunately there is little integrity in this trade now a days. At least in my state.
@@brianmoyer35 im the guy urging people to get a contract with the contractor regardless if the project goes beyond $2000 and to make sure the contractor is informing the local district of any modifications
Exactly! Shower guy here and some of us take great pride in our work and detailing AS WELL as following all guidelines and protocols to ensure a leak free shower. You get what you pay for. And yes, ALWAYS ask to see many prior jobs in pics and even a few references.
Your exactly right, many people think the trades are so easy. If you think your above someone that works with their hands you have much bigger problems and probably still young with little life experience.
Serves you right. Telling him he had to remove the drywall and put on the backer board I would say was your first clue but, I'm POSITIVE - based on what we're seeing here - there were MANY clues PRIOR to that!
@@SomeDumUsrName yeah but the homeowner probably was just telling him to create conversation perhaps, he didn't know the guy probably needed to actually know what to do, they are the experts not the homeowner lol
@@chocolatecoveredgummybears "...he didn't know they guy probably needed to actually know what to do...". Yes; that's EXACTLY one of the ways these people dig their own damn hole. I mean who'd have thought it: A tradesman needs to know what the Hell he's doing? lol
@@SomeDumUsrName you are correct but i'm saying the homeowner could have just said that as it's the obvious thing to do, and the tradesman guy would be like yeah got you. why would the guy who installs tiles need to be told that. homeowners say that a lot and the tradesman people are like yes roger that
The homeowner special.... Either the homeowner was to cheap to pay for quality work and went with the lowest bid or the homeowner said "it's not that hard I can do it myself" and then blamed it on someone else..
This actually might be the worse tile job ever. I know there are a lot of clickbait titles saying that but to actually put the concrete board on top of drywall is impressively stupid.
These homeowners make me laugh they literally hire the cheapest person they can find and then complain about shity work? And when us licensed, certified and experience contractors give a real bid that takes into consideration the time and everything else necessary to do a quality job they look at us like we're crazy
@TurboButton I agree so it's ok for the "Experienced" guy to rape me because he has knowledge.....we wouldn't be looking for other prices if you were reasonable to start with
My shower cost me less than $3000 In material and with patience education and effort I was able to do a professional job without being a professional tile guy.. I did this because the contractor i was gonna award the job to bid himself outta the work with a $19,500 quote. $16,500 of labor.. my guy trying to work 8 weekends a year and retire😂
I've torn out worse. Domino Globs an inch thick just smacked on the back of the tile. A "one step" concrete shower pan used as the floor tile mortar, and a tile shower installed over raw greenboard.
Probably gave the job to the cheapest bidder. Shower remodeling is expensive. No respectable tile contractor will ever put his work and reputation on the line and do something like this. Unfortunately it looks like you were scammed. Get a real tile company next time. Good luck ☺️
Thankfully, there's enough knowledge on the internet and RU-vid to do it yourself, as long as you pay attention and take your time to do it properly with the prep work. You come into my bathroom you would think it was done by a pro, not by me.
@@neoasura I second that. The only work I'd hire for is to do roofing or anything that involves heights. That said, all you need to do as a homeowner do to DIY work is basic math, attention to details, research, research, research and the appropriate tools.
The guy wants to learn. You are a good man for giving him the opportunity. I say it is a good day the day you learn something new. He learned that he needs more experience and you learned that next time hire a experienced Tiler .
That little nibble of tile to the right of the window is an amazing detail. I'm actually impressed they were able to cut and install that. Looks terrible, but I try to find the positive, none here really.
Well when you tell the guy you have a $1500 budget, this is what you get. Going with the lowest bid is not the best but all too often it's what is chosen and then it's just complaining. You get what you pay for so stop complaining and if I'm wrong show us the bids, the contract and how much you paid. Hire a "handyman" you get handyman work. This is not the worst I've seen either.
When I started back in the 70's you could get an entire bathroom remodel for $1200. When I retired in 2012 bath remodels were in the range of $10,000. Just crazy, but hell, gas was 35 cents a gallon too.
This is worse than my first tile job 17 years ago. You can tell it’s not his first time laying tile, but possibly his first or second time doing a tub surround.
@@neoasura bs! A lot of Customers cant even decide if they like or dislike something while the materials are being installed. Will constantly balk at deciding on anything and Ive seen married couples go through hell with each other bc they argue about the basic shit nobody cares about. Some clients you just have to avoid.
The question becomes on how you vetted and chose your contractor. Was it based on price? Typically I have clients who choose based on price only and we all get what we pay for.
No standards these days. Even the expensive and insured contractors do botched work. The owners may have experience, but if their crew isn't supervised, these are the results. To share a laugh with Y'all, this winter last I started up a radiant heat job. You would hear the tiles popping when the homeowners and I were in the house (10k sq. Feet home). I was there ensuring the heat was balanced, etc. They immediately called the tile contractor and he said I have too high of temperature circulating throughout. I laughed. I said if this is true, why aren't the tiles popping where the main distribution (manifold) is located. Surely the "highest temperatures" are at the source. I then began to pop a few tiles out to expose what I had suspected. They weren't set properly. I also mentioned to the owners and tile contractor that when I was installing the manifolds throughout the house, I noticed his crew went out to lunch and left their adhering products (glues, thinset, etc.) Open when they went to lunch. As a plumber, even I know that one should use all product in their bucket before stopping, or clean and close the lid. Come to find out months later that tiles were popping off the walls in all the bathrooms. It's a shame what the owners went through, but its their fault. They trusted their friend who was considered a reputable tile contractor and vendor. Inspect, dont expect. The man who posted this video should have inspected before he got to this point. Theres your college fund. Pay to learn.
Yes, I’ve stopped responding to ‘rental property’ leads. Not all, but most, just want right away, fast, and cheap. This tile job especially bad, but not that surprising. In another comment the orig poster said the do-over with demo was 1600.. still too low in my area and is more the price range of a cheaper hourly handyman or maybe a helper on a weekend/eves.
This is why I just do things myself. Some things might take me longer, but I learn, take one of my prescribed Adderall, and get hyper focused lol. I once wanted to install click lock flooring and a half wall. Got so into it and hyper focused that I didn't even realize it was 3 am when I stopped lol
If you have to tell the tile guy how to do the project, you hired the wrong guy. Stop being cheap, hire the pro. Nothing is more expensive than the cheap guy.
My company charges $100 an hour to install custom tiled showers, we get lots of repeat customers and referrals. Me and my boss are very proud of our work.
@@bvictory5698 you’re right, should have explained it a little better. When we go over an estimate, we know we charge $100 an hour, we then estimate how many hours it will take us and then times that by our hourly rate, then give the customer the estimate and leave it up to them if they want us to do the job.
Not too uncommon tbh. 99% of construction workers are scammers. If you knew basic bath and geometry you don't need to hire those suckers anymore. Moreover, it's fun when you do trade work by yourself.
Wow this is crazy im a tile installer but this is crazy. But this is what happens when people don't want to pay for a real tile installer to do the job. So who knows who at fault. Cause always look for previous done work by installer. But people try save money and hire just anyone that says they can do tile. Lol skilled work isn't cheap and cheap work isn't skilled leave it at that
I love this video, I come back to it a few times a year, starting off strong already! I kinda don't feel bad but do. Gotta at least check in on the job if you hire guys u are trying to make money on. 😂
Wow... the guy that did that job obviously had 0 experience. The customer seemed to know how it should be done... as a contractor it is counter intuitive for me to say this; the customer seemed to know more, he possibly could have tried himself?! Or hire someone with experience. What most customers don't realise it is a cost saving.... this guy knows it!.....He does now anyway!
But he was probably the cheapest. 🤣😂I run my own HVAC company and I don’t strive to be the cheapest. I price my work on the quality I want to give my customers.
Thanks for showing the results of picking a poor contractor. Can't blame him when you are hiring someone that doesn't know how to do something for cheaper and then they don't know how to do it.
I bought a new home built by one on largest home builders in Maryland. 2 years later a shower was leaking into the ceiling below. The source was poorly installed tiles. They went straight over regular drywall. Anytime I remove a light fixture, outlet, appliance or faucet is a disaster waiting to be uncover. Their subcontractors were either high as kites or complete imbeciles
I learned a long time that builders will find the cheapest and unqualified workers and that's who's doing the work. I bought an older house because of the structure and told my husband I will be ripping everything out and remodeling and it's been a few years, but our house is perfect now and I know the work is not half assed
Do you think that home builder care is about your experience? No. You're just a number I'm sure they are a little richer because you bought one of their homes.
This is why you don’t hire off Craigslist Or be prepared to micro manage …. Also be prepared to move out in case of water leaks over time leading to airborne black mold, which can lead to health risks left untreated.
I told him to keep the labor under $300 and I get the other $1200…That’s exactly what I think went on…Now he has to hire a real tile guy that wants $1400 to do the job within industry standards and he gets $100 as a cut from the referral…What a mess! I feel bad for the customer!!!!
You tell the guy to cut out the drywall, but don't notice until the job is done. That is on you buddy. When you hire cheap guys, you need to supervise every single day.
what's hilarious is i've been doing tile/wood/laminate/vct/carpet for 12 years. and still homeowners and builder are all the same, trying to jimp the price, hire a cheap guy then when they fuck up like this they come crying for someone to come and fix it. hire the right guy the first time and pay him fairly, you'll get good work.
It's almost entirely your fault, you let it get to that point. You should've fired him when he didn't cut the drywall. If you know the proper procedures, you could've stopped the work and found someone else knowledgeable enough to do the job. This is what happens when you don't research your contractor, this was totally avoidable.
That's true. I usually avoid these jobs altogether since the customer has already shown himself to be a price shopper. This is what you'll hear "I had another tile guy start the job but had to fire him because he didn't do what I wanted. The prep work is pretty much done I just need someone to install it". Translation - " I hired the cheapest guy I could find. He fucked up the job and now I have to start over. I need you to give me a discount on your services because of my poor choices"
@@undonesofficial if you leave for work in the morning and return to find the job done like that ...how do you imagine he could call it to a close ...like you suggested ?
@@oftin_wong dude this really ain't that hard. You fire him if he's not done. Regardless is the homeowners fault for not doing his homework on the contractor.
I have seen worse just last week this person got the guy from FB. He did wall tile that was all janked then for shower floor was laying tile on plywood floor with premixed thin set no pan
If you let that guy continue working in there after you had to tell him that the drywall needed to come out before putting the backer board in…red flag bro
why dont you just seal whats there (water mold proof it , Then frame around it and cap a new section of drywall all around lol . would work and save you all the money and time and it will look like a design /protruding around tile
This is perfectly done job versus one I'm dealing now in Brooklyn.In my case, looks like ,tile master was blind with two left hands growing from his ass.And,you not gonna believe it, but he got paid for it.
Omfg I mean my first day tile job in our basement bathroom has some glaring issues but holy guacamole this is beyond terrible. This was a professional contractor? How is that possible.
He probably a house flipper that wanted it done cheap. Been in the plumbing and hvac industry for 30 yrs and people with no experience trying to flip houses are the worst. Home inspectors are no to far behind lol.
I'm getting ready to DIY my bathroom, with zero experience tiling a shower or using a wetsaw. My preparation so far is watching three or four different videos on youtube. I had never even heard of concrete board or aqua defense until today. And even I know not to screw backer board to they drywall.