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Would Michael Jordan Have Won 8 STRAIGHT If He Never Retired? 

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One of the biggest "What Ifs" of NBA history. If Michael Jordan didn't retire in the summer of 1993 to play Baseball, would his Bulls have won the championship in 94 and 95, potentially increasing their streak to 8 straight? This is a breakdown and my thoughts...
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@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 4 года назад
How many championships do the Bulls win if MJ doesn’t retire in 93? Small error: Jordan averaged 26.9 points in the 95 regular season, although the text says 26.1. My bad.
@jaydentimestwo5350
@jaydentimestwo5350 4 года назад
10
@ryanpowers3155
@ryanpowers3155 4 года назад
if he didnt retire he would have lost in 1998 and in another year injuries fatigue motivation and the best teams he would of had to face in his whole career if he didnt retire its almost impossible he could win 8 and rlly unlikely he wins 7 he would have won 5 or 6 plus the fact that he almost got season ending injuries twice but was lucky and with that many games i think its very likely he would of missed a playoffs from injuries and his team mates might be injuierd like lebrons in 2015 its basically impossible he wins 8 plus in 1994 he did lose in 6 games soo idk how you can say mj wins 8
@allsystemsgo8678
@allsystemsgo8678 4 года назад
They wouldn't have won eight straight, lol. No one could put up with the physical and emotional toll. No one in any sport has even won four since the islanders in the early 80's.
@shadowmyth123
@shadowmyth123 4 года назад
I believe the Bulls would have split the 1994 and 1995 Finals against the Rockets. Two seven game series it would have been.
@elijah_coursey_84
@elijah_coursey_84 4 года назад
It's a tough call. I say at least 5 or 6, but maybe more. He had different teammates (besides Pippen) on both 3 peats, so even if they win in 1994 and 1995, he may not end up with 8. Another question is if the Bulls beat the Rockets in 1994, do the Rockets make the Finals in 1995? We cannot assume that all the same teams make the Finals the same years. So it could open the door for 7 or 8 titles. Either way, it is one of the most interesting what ifs in NBA history. I agree that Michael Jordan is still the G.O.A.T. with 6 rings in 8 years and all his other accolades. Another great video from my favorite NBA youtuber.
@dameschemin8464
@dameschemin8464 3 года назад
I doubt he’d win 8 straight, mostly because of mental fatigue is inevitable. Still, the fact he won 3 straight rings, retired, played a different sport, came back, and won 3 straight rings again (FMVP in all of them) and dipped out is the most impressive thing I’ve seen in sports
@m17-04
@m17-04 2 года назад
Mj is the goat
@snerdterguson
@snerdterguson 2 года назад
Even after he dipped out and decided to come back with the Wizards, he had back to back games with 51 and 46 and at the age of 40 played 82 games.
@extremeking425
@extremeking425 2 года назад
you dont fucking know that...
@reimixo
@reimixo Год назад
Jordan is just on another level, nobody comes close... 6-0 6fmvps, 10 scoring titles, 5mvps, dpoy... Kareem has 6 rings but only 2fmvp, 6mvps but One with a loosing Record, to me LeBron is the closest, 4-4-4, dominated the east for a decade almost, All time leader in points, gonna retire 4th in assists, and of the greats had the worst teams, Magic kareem played together with worthy Cooper Scott nixon mcadoo Thompson Wilkes.... Bird DJ parish walton ainge mchale.... Kobe and shaq, Duncan had Manu Parker Robinson kawhi pop as a coach... Russell had All the help lol Wilt west goodrich Baylor... NR 2 atleast in MP regular season and combined, NR 1 in playoffs minutes and games, atleast top 4 in regular season games, top 3 or maybe even 1 on combined games, most seasons played probably... And this dude is 38 in y20 AVG 28/8/6.5+-.... He is NR 2 in my book
@smoothoperator3739
@smoothoperator3739 Год назад
Jordan never had mental fatigue ONLY a competitive mindset, NO he definitely would had won 8 straight. There's also no guarantee it would had been the Rockets either in the finals. With Jordan never gone, Rockets might had also lost more games causing them to not rank high in the west and possibly beaten by a different team in the West especially their 94-95 Season being a 6th seed. Jordan may had ruined their record to not even make the playoffs
@lhart99
@lhart99 4 года назад
I would have LOVED to have seen a Bulls vs Rockets Finals match up with a non retired MJ. All we can do is speculate, but it would have been one hell of a series. :-)
@davidmartinez52420
@davidmartinez52420 4 года назад
I have it at 50/50. If any team from the West was gonna beat the Bulls, it was Houston. The Bulls had no answer for Hakeem on either end of the floor, plus he had good perimeter shooters to support him. That would've been an awesome series to watch. I think it would go the full 7 games, with the winner being the team that made the least mistakes down the stretch. Sorry that that sounds cliche....lol
@Ninjersey1
@Ninjersey1 4 года назад
Houston went 7 with the knicks game 7 in overtime.I think the bulls win.
@Ninjersey1
@Ninjersey1 4 года назад
Especially that first year the rockets didn’t have Clyde Drexler
@davidmartinez52420
@davidmartinez52420 4 года назад
@@Ninjersey1 The Knocks had a quality center to match up against Hakeem. The Bulls didn't. A Bulls team with Jordan will have a hard time. A Bulls team without Jordan doesn't stand a chance.
@oldschoolhiphop2275
@oldschoolhiphop2275 4 года назад
Jordan damn near single handedly beat the Knicks by himself every season. The Knicks were more physical than the Rockets. Oakley, & Mason where big physical guys. Along with John Starks & Ewing. If the Bulls could find a way to disrupt Hakeem & pressure him the rest of the Rockets were too soft in comparison to the Knicks. The Rockets supporting cast was good but not as big & physical as NY. I believe Jordan ,& Scottie carries the defensive load with Hakeem & try to contain him. Jordan & Scottie won't allow Hakeem to match up 1 on 1. They take their chances with the rest of the Rockets trying to win down the stretch in critical game decisions. The The Rockets didnt have the same experience they just had the talent. Chicago had 3 previous championships. Jordan Scottie they would spread Houston out on offense with Kukoc help running the floor . Chicago had Luke Longley, Will Purdue, Bill Wennington all 7 footers to disrupt the lane & get defensive rebounds. Although they were no match for Hakeem they would make a difference in the paint. The Bulls 7 footers could aggravate Hakeem with their size & jam up the paint. It wouldn't have been easy for Houston.
@VFXPlug17
@VFXPlug17 4 года назад
We’ll never know, but coming from a rockets fan, I’m glad he didn’t play...........
@anhell32
@anhell32 4 года назад
Man those rockets were great too ....is a 50 50 fighr for me
@TheRaidernation33
@TheRaidernation33 4 года назад
Yeah that would have been a great finals Hakeem and MJ I would give the slight edge to Bulls but then again Rockets were hungry
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent 4 года назад
Houston would of beat Chicago
@tomc2491
@tomc2491 4 года назад
@@arizonaFIREent how so?
@georgem3673
@georgem3673 4 года назад
Jordan was back in '95, but Orlando beat them in the playoffs.
@derekbroekhoven5498
@derekbroekhoven5498 4 года назад
You know, just the fact that it's even possible that Hakeem could've beat the Jordan Bulls in the finals with no other all-stars just speaks to Hakeem's greatness
@sonnymp1337
@sonnymp1337 3 года назад
You guys talking like hakeem just played the 2 seasons while jordan was out. Where was hakeem since 84? Where was he?
@resurrectedpa
@resurrectedpa 2 года назад
@@sonnymp1337 he made it to the Finals with Ralph Sampson before Jordan did lol while going up against the 80s Lakers and Celtics. Also, the West is really fucking good and Hakeem had barely any help for a deep playoff run in the early 90s.
@MJIZZEL
@MJIZZEL 2 года назад
Look at it like this. That 93-94 bulls team without Michael Jordan took the Knicks to 7 games that year. Those same Knicks took the Rockets to 7 games and almost won't a ring. Add a not rusty Jordan to that Bulls team and I doubt that Knicks series goes to 7 and if that same Knicks team gave Houston that much trouble then what would q Jordan led bulls team have done. 94-95 would've been a much tougher matchup without Ho Grant! If he stayed and Jordan is still in basketball shape then it's a great series. Houston swept the same magic team that year that the Bulks swept the next season.
@cuongquoc5877
@cuongquoc5877 Год назад
@@sonnymp1337 Hakeem has less help than MJ and dude wasnt into religion up until the 90s. The West was much harder than the East in the 90s tho
@HectorConCarne23
@HectorConCarne23 Год назад
@@sonnymp1337 same way you Jordan fan girls act like Jordan only played in the 90s with the whole I would never bet against him in the playoffs but the guys was getting blanked in the first round in the 80ds and wasn’t winning anything but individual awards in the 80s
@davidmartinez52420
@davidmartinez52420 4 года назад
Big Jordan fan here. He's the GOAT to me, hands down. With that said, I don't think they would've won 8 straight for a few different reasons: 1) It would've been hard to keep most of the core together for that long due to free agency. Some of the better role players would've likely been offered star money from other teams. 2) The roster for the 2nd 3 peat may not have formed like we know it did if Jordan had never retired. They were building that team around Pippen at the time, so it's reasonable to think that some of them(hard to say who for sure) wouldn't have come to the Bulls if Jordan had never retired. 3) If any team from the Western Conference had a chance to beat Jordan's Bulls, it was Olajuwan and the Houston Rockets. He would've had his way on both ends and would've made it extremely difficult for the Bulls to win. Plus he had good outside shooting to support his down low dominance. I give it a 50/50 chance that the Bulls would've beat Houston in '94, and maybe 30/70 in '95 after Houston acquired Clyde Drexler.
@tdvu
@tdvu 4 года назад
It's no surprise Jordan chose Hakeem to be in his dream starting 5.
@grantl7062
@grantl7062 4 года назад
Smartest take here
@Jamedia66
@Jamedia66 4 года назад
david martinez Good take. I see as a 50/50 also. I grew up a Rockets fan of the 80’s and 90’s and I can tell you how resilient a group they were. Were they as all around talented as the Bulls? No, but they had a nucleus, chemistry, and a very special will to not die that many weren’t able to witness. That was a very special group and you have to consider who they played against day in and day out during that time. The Sonics, Suns, Spurs, Jazz, and Blazers were unbelievable teams and they actually had their way with Chicago in their reg season head to heads. I think it was a record of around 11-3 during a 6 year span, which is down right remarkable. Those Rockets were so often ignored by the main stream media outlets too, because Hakeem didn’t have a big brand shoe contract and didn’t represent the American culture that they were all on board for, though he absolutely dominated guys like Karl Malone, Barkley, Ewing, Morning, Shaq, Kemp, Robinson, and so on. If you look at the Rockets record against these powerhouse playoff teams from the West and those they faced from the East, over the years, it’s just incredible how high the win percentage was. Olajuwon had the same mental fortitude that Jordan did, in his insatiable desire to compete and win at all costs, and he was even more regarded as a leader of men in the way that he made his supporting staff poor their hearts out completely for him. With all this being said, I like your 50/50 because it’s a fair assessment, but that 94 season was a moot point of exhaustion and overwhelming stress for MJ, while Hakeem was having one of the greatest 2 year stretches of any player in the history of the game. I’m going to stick with that Houston pulls out the victory over Chicago though, if they had met that year. When watching “The Last Dance” MJ openly expresses that he was very beatable by great teams if he wasn’t 100% in passionate go mode, and be that the case with him being emotionally drained, he would have faced a team with the greatest big of the modern era during the pinnacle of his prime. He’s also stated several times how Hakeem was the one player he crossed his fingers to not have to face out of the West in his championship seasons, whereas every other superstar that he did face(Drexler, Jabar, Malone, Barkley, and Kemp), were all dominated over their careers by Hakeem so it would have been a completely different monster. The Rockets supporting staff was a group of perfectly fit complements to Hakeems skill set also, so don’t seek them short, and Vernon Maxwell was the leagues best defender of Jordan over the years as well. Take the 96 or 92 Bulls teams, and then it would have been a much tougher feat for the Rockets to overcome...
@davidmartinez52420
@davidmartinez52420 4 года назад
@@Jamedia66 Even emotionally drained, Jordan still would've fought tooth and nail. I'm sure becoming the first time since the Celtics to win 4 straight would've been the perfect motivation. The simple fact Jordan is on that team is why I can't 100% count them out even if there more factors going against them than there were that favored them. That's why I settled on 50/50 because it is basically a coin flip. I love Hakeem and he's in my top 10 all time and is the 2nd best center all time right behind Kareem. The sad thing though is he's not in a lot of people's top 10, so he kinda falls in the underrated category. I don't think people really understand how good he was. He didn't start playing basketball at all until he was 16 or 17. He played soccer, that's why he had amazing footwork for a center. He was so good that not a soul on Earth has ever criticized Houston for taking him ahead of Michael Jordan. No one. The Bulls notoriously struggled against teams that had both a big time center and good perimeter shooting, both of which Houston had. Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, and Mario Elie were all good outside shooters. Even Hakeem hit 8 of the 19 3s he took in '93-'94. It's really too hard to say for sure, but as I said if any team back then was gonna beat Chicago it would've been Hakeem and the Rockets.
@davidmartinez52420
@davidmartinez52420 4 года назад
@@Jamedia66 One thing's for sure.......I totally wish that series could've happened
@dr.corneliusq.cadbury6984
@dr.corneliusq.cadbury6984 4 года назад
Ron Harper was another key piece to the second three peat team, especially on defense. Harper, Jordan, and Pippen have to be the best group of perimeter defenders ever assembled. Harper usually guarded the point position and defended well against Payton and Stockton. Toni Kukuc coming in with the scoring punch off the bench was another key piece.
@sex6cult9revolution
@sex6cult9revolution 4 года назад
So true. That team was so deep. If an injury cut Jordan's minutes by 5-10 minutes per game, I believe it's still possible they could have won. They would just have had to rely on Harper, Kukoc and Steve Kerr more and I think all three could have risen to the challenge and put up, while not the same numbers as Jordan, still the numbers of a winning team.
@pinkney928
@pinkney928 4 года назад
You are so right bulls win 8
@nathansalinas1669
@nathansalinas1669 4 года назад
This is why the Warriors would have had a difficult time against the bulls. Pippen and Rodman could rotate against KD, Harper and MJ guarding Steph and Klay. People forget how suffocating that defense was.
@daneosborn3476
@daneosborn3476 4 года назад
@@nathansalinas1669 absolutely. The bulls were built to defend anything on the court. As far as physically gifted people ,mj, pippen and rodman are 3 of the most physically gifted athletes assembled on one team. They were versatile on who they could guard. Rodman though highly rated as a defender is still underrated because because i dont believe anyone thats ever played the game could guard as many different type of player.
@somregularguy
@somregularguy 4 года назад
Dr. Cornelius Q. Cadbury that’s not true at all, their last championship in 98 was a miracle that I commend Jordan for being able to pull off, it was clear that if they stayed together they where done, there’s a reason why everyone tapped out at the same time, big dominant big men is where they’re weakness was and when you realize that every championship from 1990-2000 that wasn’t won by Jordan was won by teams that had their big men win FMVP like Hakeem, Shaq and Duncan and it would’ve especially been overkill with the fact of the spurs “twin towers” I think Jordan is the goat and everything but you have to realize his 6-0 record had to do a lot with being at the right place and right time
@mingw2304
@mingw2304 4 года назад
God I would LOVED to have seen that Bulls/Rockets Finals
@tsahicarmona5877
@tsahicarmona5877 4 года назад
OMG! MJ was playing baseball for a season and half, when returned, still rusty, he averaged like Miami Heat's Lebron!!! There's no question he could have won 8.
@nathansalinas1669
@nathansalinas1669 4 года назад
@ettie cohen Hakeem's team beat the Bulls pretty easily in almost all regular season matchups. MJ has even stated that Hakeem was his toughest competition.
@bcjclj
@bcjclj 4 года назад
Nathan Salinas what the fuck does regular season games have to do with the finals?! Utah beat the Bulls both regular season games in 97-98, and they still got their asses handed to them by Mike. Cleveland beat the Bulls in 6 regular season games during the 88-89 season, and Mike beat them in the playoffs. Regular season has shit to do with post season. Hell, LeBron swept a 60 win Hawks team that beat the Cavs 3 out of 4 games in the regular season. That don’t mean shit.
@nathansalinas1669
@nathansalinas1669 4 года назад
@TerrorTown7575 The Magic that beat Chicago lost against the Rockets, so I don't think that logic would still apply
@maviebaby
@maviebaby 4 года назад
Heat Lebron was 54% from the field, tho. Put some respect on his name.
@somregularguy
@somregularguy 4 года назад
Tsahi Carmona “still rusty” lmao stop it he’s great but stop it who was gonna guard Hakeem, he was unstoppable
@Mattulaak
@Mattulaak 4 года назад
I recently found your channel and I quite like it. I especially love that you don't peddle the bullshit a lot of NBA fans and 'analysts' do.
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 4 года назад
Thanks friend, I appreciate you supporting the channel more than you know, seriously.
@thedjyoyo6136
@thedjyoyo6136 4 года назад
I agree 100% with this, and also there’s an interview of Michael Jordan where he says that at the championship in 93 he didn’t felt the same hunger to go once again to fight for the top, he felt like people already expected them to win so it wasn’t fun or challenging anymore, but when he came back from retirement all that hunger and passion for winning were back, so I guess if Jordan doesn’t retire maybe he and the bulls would have lost their motivation to win
@TheRaidernation33
@TheRaidernation33 4 года назад
YOVANI JOSUE SEANEZ CHAVEZ your right he did say that at his retirement interview, he also lost his dad which is a big reason why his love and joy of the game was lost
@louiejordan6933
@louiejordan6933 4 года назад
I agree. Everything happened the way it should have.
@Budd631
@Budd631 4 года назад
YOVANI JOSUE SEANEZ CHAVEZ he was caught gambling and owed the Gods something and was told to step down. The official narrative is a farce
@houstonburnside8985
@houstonburnside8985 3 года назад
The fact people think he could do it is just a testament to his greatness.
@mr.sinjin-smyth
@mr.sinjin-smyth 4 года назад
Jordan initially retired in 1993 due to the trauma of his father's MURDER and played baseball to HONOR him. He only returned in the late portion of 1994-95 season after finally getting over it. If not for his father's murder, there a good chance Jordan could've led Chicago to 8 straight NBA finals and rings. James Jordan's killer (ironically a Jordan fan) deserves blame for ruining such a possibility.
@leemcb7297
@leemcb7297 4 года назад
There are rumors that MJ gambled on games, and he was secretly suspended for 2 years (played baseball instead)....so no chance of eight titles at all
@elbowgang9715
@elbowgang9715 4 года назад
@@leemcb7297 Isiah Thomas actually gambled on games with the Mob hell he might've thrown a few games
@gilbertsanchez2568
@gilbertsanchez2568 4 года назад
Trauma my ass,isn't he the goat, I think the NBA intentionally made the bulls avoid hakeem's beast season,don't forget that the rockets have a solid role player bench
@youretoonosey6334
@youretoonosey6334 4 года назад
Yes MJ would have won 8 straight, only if his teammates showed up to play as well. Dude's act like it was all MJ, and not a stacked team behind him. Bulls had he best Scorer in MJ, the best wing defender in Pippen and a paint beast in Rodman. Not to mention how deep the rotation could go because of their bench.
@gilbertsanchez2568
@gilbertsanchez2568 4 года назад
@@youretoonosey6334 mj's team mates were no scrubs
@aramsarkisyan8061
@aramsarkisyan8061 4 года назад
An important factor not brought up is the statistics of Bulls vs Rockets games from '90-'91 to '92-' 93 seasons. Rockets won 5 ot of 6 games during that period. Rockets were the worst match-up for Bulls back in those days, so it would be really tough for them to win finals in 94 and 95 against Hoiston.
@kingpete3160
@kingpete3160 9 месяцев назад
You can’t count that because playoffs bulls a different team
@crystalizedExposed
@crystalizedExposed 3 месяца назад
@@kingpete3160 true, but rim protection and opposing centers were the biggest weaknesses in the bulls dynasty. even in 1996, shaq still had a good series, just others couldn't step up. 1992, they got taken to 7 by Ewing's knicks. add on to that the added fatigue, even if the bulls could have 4 or 5 peated, he would have lost maybe in the later 90's just because of fatigue. In the last dance they talk about him and the team being worn down from 3 in a row, now imagine 7 and trying to make it 8 while having to go against the jazz and indiana.
@kingpete3160
@kingpete3160 3 месяца назад
@@crystalizedExposed Yeah that’s true
@big8dog887
@big8dog887 4 года назад
Jordan loved motivating himself with perceived slights, Barkley and Malone winning MVP, for example. He would have loved to play in the finals against the guy that was drafted #1 while he went #3.
@Coldass
@Coldass Год назад
Never once have I considered that fact in all the hypothetical scenarios of a bulls/rockets matchup
@Muttal9348
@Muttal9348 7 месяцев назад
@lajuan3474how does it not mean anything, jordan is the biggest dog in nba history, if something was personal he would make it known in his play
@Northphilly-wu4oq
@Northphilly-wu4oq 4 года назад
That shows how amazing jordan was he beat a prime penny and shaq with a sweep, i hate how shannon sharp like to paint the narrative that jordan folded in that series he was still rusty and still averaged 30
@awesomenessbrown12345
@awesomenessbrown12345 4 года назад
North philly 215 he wasn’t as rusty as people claim as he was dropping 40 plus games in those playoffs. He was physically not all the way there, he wasn’t completely out of shape. He did kind of choke and play very poorly during the magic
@rankarat
@rankarat 4 года назад
@@awesomenessbrown12345 He was very good, but he was not regular jordan level.
@awesomenessbrown12345
@awesomenessbrown12345 4 года назад
Ran Karat oh yeah defo, he wasn’t at his prime status before he retired
@KnightsofMelvin
@KnightsofMelvin 4 года назад
It’s not like the 3peat team was beat. Grant switched sides, tipping the scale. Plus Jordan was obviously rusty. Orlando was also really good.
@awesomenessbrown12345
@awesomenessbrown12345 4 года назад
Shanon B yes I legit said he was no where near MJ standards of prime. I also said he still didn’t play well vs magic
@golddiaries9196
@golddiaries9196 3 года назад
The meticulousness with which u do your analysis is serious. You’re truly gifted Arnett
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
Thanks Rich :) I appreciate that
@danielc3321
@danielc3321 2 года назад
I think one of the reasons MJ retired, along with everything else, was championship fatigue. Stepping away for a bit helped him regain his motivation, which led to the 2nd 3-peat.
@mrblob5413
@mrblob5413 Год назад
Yeah definitely not that his dad was murdered.
@DPH1301
@DPH1301 4 года назад
The mistake most people when speaking against Jordan is that they use conclusions mainly based on regular logic, normal reasoning and common sense, but what you all forget is Jordan couldn't really be limited by those measures, he was something that was never seen before and never seen since, you cant conclude or judge Jordan on any normal parameters or anything that makes normal sense, Michael Jordan was not normal...
@theephraimite
@theephraimite 4 года назад
Possibly ten straight if they didn’t decide to rebuild in 1998.
@ogloc4478
@ogloc4478 4 года назад
9 straight at least a good possibility considering the 99 season was shortened and a deep playoff run would’ve amounted to just the length of a regular season. 91-99 certainly possible and 2000 against Kobe Shaq and la would’ve been great
@Mektek19
@Mektek19 4 года назад
9 straight my guy. Jordan and Pippen were pretty broken down from the long runs. 99 was the perfect season for them to get one last title because it was a shorten season. I think it was actually 50 games. The old bulls could have snuck in one more title in a shorter season.
@bGzzzzz
@bGzzzzz 4 года назад
@@ogloc4478 that 2000 Lakers team wouldn't exist, that team only made it after Phil was their coach. Shaq even said it, that he didn't respect anyone until Phil came along.
@ethanennis8
@ethanennis8 4 года назад
Mektek19 The 99 season would’ve destroyed that bulls team injury wise, back to back to backs, 6 games in 7 nights, etc
@theephraimite
@theephraimite 4 года назад
T Mitch, you and I are humans too. So, who can say for sure?
@johnnyfive5628
@johnnyfive5628 4 года назад
A short season in 99 would have gave there fresh legs a 9th in a row.
@Budd631
@Budd631 4 года назад
Jordan had half a season but somehow wasn’t “fresh”. Averages 32ppg in the playoffs but isn’t “back yet”. It’s a silly conversation. He was back and has excuses. If he won, he was a God. He had nothing to lose even though...he lost in 95.
@somregularguy
@somregularguy 4 года назад
Budd631 I agree, Jordan is the goat but I hate how people try to remove all the blemishes from his career
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 4 года назад
Or at least 4 straight if we still say he retired in 93 but came back and won 96 97 98 and then 99 and then I'll say it would be over after that but they could without any doubt have won in 99 had the team been together
@flightreacts4603
@flightreacts4603 4 года назад
Bulls with grant but not rodman may beat 1995 rockets in tough 7 games series . However , they may not beat the sonics in 1996 as the sonics even swept the rockets . Not to mention 1997 and 98 jazz which is even more powerful . Jordan may have 5 straight titles but it still hella inpressive .
@FuShengAlex
@FuShengAlex 3 года назад
He wouldn't have even beaten Houston in 95. Nice try Jordan jocker
@somregularguy
@somregularguy 4 года назад
Nah Steve Kerr himself said that they would’ve burned out and lost the motivation, Jordan’s retirement was a blessing in disguise and key for such an accomplishment
@leerussell8778
@leerussell8778 4 года назад
I agree. I was 19 when he retired in 1993. MJ was being scrutinized, and run down by media, gambling, and then his dad got murdered. People foolishly believed his gambling had something to do with it. As focused as MJ was, I don't think he would have made 8 straight without a break.
@averyce2
@averyce2 4 года назад
Great points with Horace vs Dennis. But let's not forget the impact of Ron Harper filling the guard position!!
@ClayShorterSTL
@ClayShorterSTL 4 года назад
Those are all great points. The only thing is that I believe that even with Grant, considering that all they gave up was Will Perdue, they make that trade for Rodman. Listed at 6'10" and with his length, I could see Horace sliding over to the center position even with the bigger players. I actually think that would've made them more dangerous and stifling as a defense. With a starting 5 of C Grant, PF Rodman, SF Pippen, SG Jordan and PG Harper, they could smother everyone and not having defensive liabilities in the front court along with a proven 15+ ppg scorer in Grant they would've easily taken it up to 8
@kingpete3160
@kingpete3160 9 месяцев назад
You are so correct on that facts 💯 I said the samething with the same line up u mention for the bulls I see 8 straight championships if that line up had existed
@mkfitzge6354
@mkfitzge6354 3 года назад
No, he needed that break. He was beyond exhausted and even after the break, the same fatigue was setting in for the second three peat. He said he wanted to try for a fourth in the documentary though, and I believe him that the challenge of going for 4 would have fueled them through another successful season. But I do think he needed that break in 93.
@bullydwilliams6785
@bullydwilliams6785 Год назад
He wouldn't have needed a break if his father wasn't murdered.
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 2 года назад
Fatigue is the biggest factor to me. No way are they realistically going that strong for 8 straight final appearances until June, then immediately becoming ready for games again in October. Not only would they have to be focused and determined to play Basketball consistently year round during the break, but they’d have to sub in recovery time over training time just to stand a chance. Maybe they could not play as many games in the main season, especially in the start of the season, but that would still affect their overall legacies given regular season play. Only a star studded squad, who had focus only on BB, and who had around 25-30 player in totality who could legitimately play if required, could even attempt to do something like that.
@spindakiwi1127
@spindakiwi1127 4 года назад
I think jordan said in an interview "we are lucky this monster doesnt come out of the west"reffering to olajuwon after getting beaten by the rovkets...
@dbernardt0681
@dbernardt0681 4 года назад
I think Houston would've gave Chicago lots of problems and I really think the '95 Rockets may have actually beat them in a 7 game series especially if Clyde Drexler was on the Houston roster. That 95 Houston team was playing near flawless basketball by the time they got very deep into playoffs (Hence why Houston destroyed a 62 win San Antonio Team and Hakeem dominated David Robinson and Houston sweeping the #1 Seeded Orlando Magic with Shaq and Penny in finals). Granted, I think the 94 Bulls with Jordan would've squeeked out a series win vs Houston giving them 4 straight titles but at that point, the grind of having to win 4 straight would've started catching up with Chicago going into the next season (94-95) and The Rockets would've came back even stronger/hungrier in 95 and finally have been the team to dethrone Chicago. The 95-96 Bulls team however, would've came back with a point to prove especially MJ and I really think they still would've won 70 games that year like they did in real life and would've reclaimed the NBA throne against either Houston, Seattle. Utah or whoever would've won the west that year.
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 4 года назад
@@dbernardt0681 That sound reasonable but we never know but what we do know is - 6 championship - 6 fmvps - never a game 7 - 10 time scoring champ - 9 time first team defense - 1 dpoy - 3 time steals leader - 2 time dunk champ - 2 olympic gold medals - highest PER in NBA history - Highest scoring average in the regular season - Highest scoring average in the playoff with amazing 33.4 points per game - two season with over 200 steals and 100 blocks as the only player ever - 3 time all star mvp. Greatest and best player in NBA history.
@TheFadedSpade35
@TheFadedSpade35 4 года назад
@@dbernardt0681 I agree, Houston would have won at least one of those matchups
@l9ikjam
@l9ikjam 4 года назад
@@dbernardt0681 rodman on Hakeem with Jordan and pippen helping to defend them like they did against shaq. The bulls would have won in 6 both years
@TheFadedSpade35
@TheFadedSpade35 4 года назад
@@l9ikjam disagree
@dumbname939
@dumbname939 3 года назад
In ‘98, the Bulls came dangerously close to losing to the Pacers. If Jordan never retired, he was already mentally fatigued and felt unmotivated, but after making the Finals and even winning the championship for just five or six years, fatigue would have certainly caught up and they would likely fall to the Pacers, Knicks, Heat, or Jazz if they even make it that far.
@willhairstonful
@willhairstonful 4 года назад
Jonny Arnett: Your You Tube posts are a bazillion times better than what is on FOX Sports 1 and ESPN. Keep up the good work!
@jaybrandriet9381
@jaybrandriet9381 4 года назад
You nailed it with your last point. To three-peat twice was amazing enough. The energy and good fortune to win 8 straight is hard to comprehend in the modern day. Houston was an uphill match up for the Bulls during that time. If anyone could do it, it'd be Mike. That said, I've always leaned "65-35" they would not have won 8 straight.
@DPH1301
@DPH1301 4 года назад
Many people considered Jordan not human, even nba players, some actually questioned there own abilities because of him, some actually thought he was Jesus, Jordan would have won 8 straight, ya'll must have forget who he was and what he accomplished
@jaybrandriet9381
@jaybrandriet9381 4 года назад
@@DPH1301 Jordan of all people deserve the benefit of the doubt? Sure. But look how hard it was to beat Utah. They could barely breath taking out Indiana in game 7 in 1998. With two more title runs in place of where MJ needed to rest mentally in 94 and 95...1997 and 1998 become hard to imagine.and Imagine is all we can do.
@jaybrandriet9381
@jaybrandriet9381 4 года назад
"Who he was and what he accomplished" was well represented by three peating twice. Granted he walked away from the opportunity to win 4 straight, twice. He never won 4 straight. The idea of 8, is just that...an idea.
@DPH1301
@DPH1301 4 года назад
@@jaybrandriet9381 We shouldn't ask the question would he win 8 straight, the real question should be who would stop Michael Jordan and the championship bulls from winning??? name the team and the players and why, because I don't know any, because of Michael Jordan, many hallnof fame players never won a championship, losing to the bulls is why and Jordan was unquestionably the bulls best player, he's the main reason they have no championships, so tell me who would stop the bulls from getting 8 straight? Probably could have got 10 straight before the natural old age decline
@DPH1301
@DPH1301 4 года назад
@@jaybrandriet9381 Utah was an amazing team in doubt, they are the type of team that would make you not want to step on the court, their main alpha players being John Stockton and Karl Malone, this is a duo that is a nightmare to face, Karl Malone is the #2 all time scorer all time, John Stockton is the #2 all time point guard if all time, as incredible a nightmare as the Utah Jazz was they lost to the Bulls twice by knockout, both times they never made it to the final round (a game seven), As crazy as the Stockton Malone Utah Jazz was, they were defeated by knockout both times, this even helps my argument about Michael Jordan and the bulls winning 8 straight, everyone they beat for the championship were all beaten by knockout
@nathanjohnson2382
@nathanjohnson2382 2 года назад
Rockets vs Bulls would of been crazy in 94 and 95. Hakeem is a top 5 player in my opinion. Good chance it’s spilt due to fatigue. Bulls had the best team but idk how they’d match up after 4 or 5 straight titles.
@tzovlask
@tzovlask Год назад
another factor is that 2 more full NBA seasons with deep playoff runs would have had an impact on Jodan's body/health/conditioning. We say MJ running on fumes dueingg the 97 and 98 finals, he was still obviously great but his efficiency had diminished severely.
@robhughes8198
@robhughes8198 4 года назад
Olajuwon is the only player I’ve seen make MJ consistently change his inside shots on a regular basis. I think the 94 series would’ve been one of the greatest ever. However Olajuwon was the greatest center to play post 1980 and he the was the Franchise Houston Rockets, they were NOTHING without him. The 94 Bulls went far without MJ and to say the Rockets would’ve won FOR SURE is bullshit. I really wish Jordan didn’t have a gambling addiction and we might’ve seen this series.
@kingpete3160
@kingpete3160 9 месяцев назад
I think jordan and the bulls wins in game 6 vs rockets
@Gabriela-Acevedo
@Gabriela-Acevedo 4 года назад
Bulls got to game 7 of 94 semifinals with no Jordan. I think they would've beat Pacers in conference finals and Rockets in the finals. Now 95 would've been a little more tough but I think with Jordan playing all year they would of beat Orlando in conference finals and Houston in the finals. To answer question i say yes.
@ryanpowers3155
@ryanpowers3155 4 года назад
if he didnt retire he would have lost in 1998 and in another year injuries fatigue motivation and the best teams he would of had to face in his whole career if he didnt retire its almost impossible he could win 8 and rlly unlikely he wins 7 he would have won 5 or 6 plus the fact that he almost got season ending injuries twice but was lucky and with that many games i think its very likely he would of missed a playoffs from injuries and his team mates might be injuierd like lebrons in 2015 its basically impossible he wins 8 plus in 1994 he did lose in 6 games soo idk how you can say mj wins 8
@pickzkickz
@pickzkickz 4 года назад
JORDAN DID PLAY AGAINST INDIANA MORON.
@JudaMetalMaiden
@JudaMetalMaiden 4 года назад
@@pickzkickz Bulls did not play against Indiana in 94 or 95 playoffs. They only played Indiana in eastern conference finals of 1998 moron.
@allsystemsgo8678
@allsystemsgo8678 4 года назад
@@pickzkickz do you really have to call someone a moron because they may have been wrong?
@theephraimite
@theephraimite 4 года назад
Ryan Powers, Jordan didn’t play in 94. Besides, what you say is just conjecture.
@sedricgo1563
@sedricgo1563 4 года назад
One of my favorite youtubers ever.
@e-musickvance3581
@e-musickvance3581 4 года назад
Bulls vs Rockets greatest NBA Finals that never happened.
@dontdoittoyoself6786
@dontdoittoyoself6786 4 года назад
I think Bulls win in 6 both times.
@joeman425
@joeman425 4 года назад
You need to get some rest, they would be lucky to win one against the Rockets.
@michaelbonhomme3677
@michaelbonhomme3677 2 года назад
That would be a dream campaign. I feel like if his father lived healthy to this year and beyond, the only problem is Jordan’s teammates. I don’t think Jordan would become soft and complacent, but it’s hard to keep hungry without moving players around
@jaydentimestwo5350
@jaydentimestwo5350 4 года назад
Hey my favorite nba youtuber (honestly tho) very underrated
@barbearianlando3338
@barbearianlando3338 4 года назад
Jayden TimesTwo second that bro. *lifts glass*
@danlora5599
@danlora5599 4 года назад
I think this is a fantastic take. My reasoning is a bit different but I share similar view. 1. As much as the Bulls were strong I think Scottie needed that 1 season on his own. To sort of answer the question to himself of how good he actually was. I think with Jordan still playing, Scottie eventually asks to be traded to get his big money. History has shown no matter how in synch guys maybe, if you have two superstars in their prime, 1 eventually feels undervalued and wants out. 2. Jordans toughest finals was against the Sonics. They absolutely beat the crap out of him physically. But mind you this is after time off, a full season and him having been in his best shape in years motivated by loss to Orlando. What's my point? My point is father time is father time. Even if for arguement sake they win both series against Houston, I don't think they beat Seattle if he had played two previous years. Think about it. Jordan didn't believe in load management. So that's 164 regular season games. A minimum of 193 games if you sweep every team in post season BOTH years. Given that highly unlikely case, you are talking an additional 200 plus games before you even play 82 in THAT season plus 10 more games before even getting to Seattle. Thats ALOT of wear and tear. I just think given all that im not saying Bulls weren't good enough but its additional wear and tear that has to be acknowledged. Mind you lets say Jordan is Jordan of old and even sharper. Thats failing to take into account the OTHER guys might be burned out. This to me is an even greater factor than number 1. 3. I feel at some point, a team would have made a trade to try and be on par with Bulls. Again try lol. The fact he was gone for two years had teams saying well we're good enough as is but he is the reason we lost. Now that hes gone our same group can do it. Ala Knicks, Pacers not making any moves and Knicks were sort of right as they made finals. When a guy kicks your ass 6 straight years you have to say we need to do something. Jordan lulled you into basically saying eh hes Jordan so we're not winning anyway. I think 5 straight or 6 was possible but i think at some point, he needed that rest. I also think team itself needed that loss aganist NY to remind them its not a mandate you win the title. It made them find their fire again.
@svantelindqvist4275
@svantelindqvist4275 2 года назад
The fact that even Air Jordan could not have won 8-straight is a testament to Bill Russell's greatness
@cassianandor4103
@cassianandor4103 Год назад
Bill Russel won when there was 8 teams in the league lol. And in Russel's era the players were literal plumbers in the offseason so it was quite a different era.
@jamaldaniels7402
@jamaldaniels7402 3 года назад
Awesome take well done sir.. You are now 1 of my favorite you tubers...no biasness with you. Keep 🆙 the good work
@poi2587
@poi2587 3 года назад
Unless someone incredible comes around. MJ will forever be the goat
@owenparker6651
@owenparker6651 4 года назад
That little Horace Grant - Dennis Rodman nugget is a real chicken bone when it comes to swallowing the bulls winning 8 straight. Helluva point for any such debate...
@torahisgood
@torahisgood 3 года назад
1:25 also the 1947-1949 Minneapolis lakers
@iank3924
@iank3924 4 года назад
Umm no. Just no. You're acting as if they won 5 straight and then Horace fell off that they couldn't replace Horace with the rest of the pieces they had? I love Dennis, but if you don't think they couldn't replace him and still beat Seattle and Utah assuming they beat Houston twice I think you're really reaching.
@jflack6
@jflack6 4 года назад
You and only 9 folks
@marcoslaureano5562
@marcoslaureano5562 2 года назад
What made Mike truly hungry to win that second three peat was getting blown out by the Magic....and Horace didn't leave because Mike retired. He left because he wasn't happy there. They didn't renew his contract and he hated Mike BECAUSE of how hard Mike would ride his teammates. That trouble had been brewing way before Jordan had retired. And don't forget Mike saw Horace as the main "rat" behind "The Jordan Rules" book. Horace was there for the '94 playoff loss. Whether Mike had retired or not, Horace was leaving. The Bulls declined to re-sign him, you forget that.
@historiaeesporte
@historiaeesporte 4 года назад
a video on Wilt Chamberlain's game change after a major injury in late 69. he was on a roll in the fist 9 games, then got injured.
@thengyang5537
@thengyang5537 4 года назад
What are u talking about?..The rockets couldn't even get past the Sonics 96 the jazz 97 n 98...Bulls dont need anyone else but the GOAT n hus sidekick.
@jimkouts3328
@jimkouts3328 4 года назад
Exactly and they also had for second year (I mean in 1996) Clyde and they still swept by the sonics and in 1997 they have added sir Charles and still failed to pass the Utah in the conference finals
@MrJohnnyAOA
@MrJohnnyAOA 4 года назад
Cool story what about 94 95?
@Budd631
@Budd631 4 года назад
Theng Yang they didn’t match up well with the Sonics. They would double the post EVERY time va Hakeem. The Bulls NEVER double teamed. Very different match up
@TheyoungZidane
@TheyoungZidane 4 года назад
COULDNT even get past the sonics as if that’s a big deal. MJ got locked up by Payton. Bulls in 95 lost to the magic, mj couldn’t even win 4 straight.
@yvans.
@yvans. 4 года назад
Theng Yang how to discuss with a fan...
@Thetruth11033
@Thetruth11033 4 года назад
Jordan left 2 rings on the table, one when he retired to play baseball and another one when he retired after 1998
@waynemacgillivary7476
@waynemacgillivary7476 4 года назад
Thanks for the great video. I've been waiting for years for someone to do this. MJ & his Bulls were on a tear and I'm totally not sure about 8, but I'm thinking a solid 5 maybe 6. The times & #s don't lie. The 90s were all about the Bulls.
@samuelhuggins3173
@samuelhuggins3173 4 года назад
I believe 10 straight. I just don't see anyone stopping Mike in the 90's. His drive is something not seen ever before.
@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705
@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 4 года назад
They don't win that 96 finals without Rodman and they don't become desperate enough to trade for him if they are not trying to fill the void Horace Grant left when he left in free agency, so no
@maryakopyan3224
@maryakopyan3224 4 года назад
96' team would've won it with Horace Grant too. It's just that the 95' team had no power forward.
@elmerreyes8985
@elmerreyes8985 Год назад
Bulls vs rockets was a very good matchup back then & it could go either ways. But I think the bulls could have won 1 or 2 more if the team was still intact after the 2nd three-peat but we all know what happened. 🙂
@chitownsuperfan
@chitownsuperfan 4 года назад
Great analysis. I've always thought about that Grant-Rodman tradeoff.
@matsong5134
@matsong5134 4 года назад
I’ve always believed that he wouldn’t win 8 because he said himself that he needed to leave the NBA at the end of 93. “I was at the top for so long, I forgot the steps it took for me to get there.” (MJ) However if he didn’t retire at the end of 98 and went one more year with the same coach and team, they would have won in 99. So in my opinion they would have won 7 titles all up.
@CJK2175
@CJK2175 Год назад
I really can’t see that happening The bulls weakest Position on that team was definitely the center position and MJ would have definitely met him at least once plus He’s explained how mentally exhausted he was during that final run and it took everything he had left After a 2 year break to physically and mentally recharge I think the timing was just perfect For those 6 rings and left at the perfect time
@steviecritiquenewby7874
@steviecritiquenewby7874 4 года назад
That would have been a good one between the bulls and rocket I think the 95 rockets would have gave the bulls a problem
@MrFantastic23
@MrFantastic23 4 года назад
Just want preface this and say I am a huge jordan fan! Huge! I was 13 when he won his first chip and watched pretty much every Bulls game even when he took that baseball hiatus. And I have never thought they would have won 8 straight I feel that overall they may have still won six after winning 4 in a row they would have lost somewhere along that time frame but that loss would reignite the fire and they would win another two not sure back to back but I just think 6 in 8 years seems about right.
@thein-famouselguapo15
@thein-famouselguapo15 4 года назад
Didn't see the clip, don't need to. Just came straight to the comments to give the obvious answer. Yes, without a doubt. He and the bulls were at their prime when he retired. Nuff said.
@Zero-ef4sc
@Zero-ef4sc 3 года назад
I can't stress this enough, the Rockets picked Hakeem over Jordan in the 1984 NBA draft, but NO ONE criticizes the Rockets for that pick.
@sonnymp1337
@sonnymp1337 3 года назад
MJ >>>> Hakeem
@whitespacecollective95
@whitespacecollective95 4 года назад
I'm a big MJ stan but no way! 8 straight is insane. He needed those two years off to rest. Also, the Bulls have a winning record against every team except for one. Can you guess which one? The Houston Rockets. Granted, I think he would've won 4 straight, lose, and win 3 more but not 8 straight lol...
@munoken
@munoken 4 года назад
Ultimately it really doesn't matter, like you said 2 3-peats in the same decade = GOAT!
@Jmxd21
@Jmxd21 4 года назад
Tough one to call. Mike and Hakeem would be unstoppable. Pippen will be the X-factor for the bulls. Hakeem didn’t have an all-star on his team so someone else would have to step up. Bulls edge rockets. Just a better overall team. This would be too much for Hakeem to handle without another star.
@DPH1301
@DPH1301 4 года назад
This is probably the first video that I actually disagree with you, you have to remember who Michael Jordan is/was, if Jordan has any kind of significant help then he's winning championships period, yes he had a decline when he came back which is naturally expected from not being in the nba for a while, and yes his latter years with the bulls he had slightly lower averages than the first 3 championship years, but this is Michael Jordan, if he's in the NBA with help then he's winning championships. Remember this is also the 40 year old who was arguably the best player in the league even at his old age, and he clearly didnt come back to the NBA to the wizards for the purpose of being the best like before, he came back simply for the love of the game. Michael Jordan the greatest player of all time (who some NBA players actually thought he was Jesus because of everything phenomenal that he was) would have won 8 straight championships had he never retired (also meaning had he never lost his father, his best friend)...
@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705
@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 4 года назад
Even Michael Jordan himself said they probably would not have won 8 straight had he not retired. Steve Kerr also said they wouldn't have had the motivation if he hadn't stepped away for a while
@DPH1301
@DPH1301 4 года назад
@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 It doesnt matter what Michael Jordan himself said, Michael Jordan was/is a competitive psychopath, every year he competed in his prime after his first championship with the Bulls would be a year that he would have been obsessed with winning. Who would have stopped them from winning, name the team and the player, because I just dont know who could stop a Michael Jordan led Chicago Bulls team. Jordan had superior basketball skills far beyond anyone and he expected him team to play at a specific level of greatness. He does not like to lose so him saying he wouldn't have won 8 straight seems odd to me. The Chicago Bulls led by Michael Jordan won 6 straight, so if he thinks he wouldn't have won 8 straight sounds strange
@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705
@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 4 года назад
@@DPH1301 Regardless, I don't think they would be able to pull off 8 straight taking into account all the wear and tear that would go into playing 8 straight seasons and finals runs, regardless of if you're a gym rat or not. I don't think they would have won in 94-95 because Horace Grant was gonna leave that team anyway since he didn't really like Jordan.
@DPH1301
@DPH1301 4 года назад
@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 Steinerliner 3 You have to remember that the question here is would Michael Jordan have won 8 straight, we already know the Bulls can't win 8 straight, Michael Jordan is the sole reason for the championships the bulls won. Horace Grant is a great player but he is not the difference maker between a championship and a loss, Michael Jordan is, and mj is the one player that "wear and tear" is not an issue. It doesnt really matter who is on the Bulls as long as he has his sidekick Scottie Pippen and other good role players. That is all it takes for Michael Jordan to win championships. His sidekick Scottie Pippen (jordan is greatly responsible for the player that pippen turned into) and a decent team then its championship here we come
@DPH1301
@DPH1301 4 года назад
@@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 Ignore the spelling errors
@fireeagle5633
@fireeagle5633 4 года назад
There is a simple reason why jordan and the bulls would have never won 8 straight title Hakeem was too much even for the bulls
@picafavo3466
@picafavo3466 4 года назад
See, I think he would’ve beat the Rockets in 1994, but in 1995 with the Rockets trading for Clyde Drexler the bulls wouldn’t have won. Without Rodman on the team, they couldn’t guard the paint. Plus Jordan would have to go against star Clyde Drexler. With two dominant scoring players with different skills, the bulls would come close, but wouldn’t win.
@torhowell5202
@torhowell5202 4 года назад
No they'd lose both. 94 in 5 because mad max and 95 in 6. Because no madmax. But if jordan stayed you could convince him to stay.
@toddsands6000
@toddsands6000 4 года назад
I honestly think it may have been perfect timing. But it's hard to bet against Michael Jordan led teams when they were winning. The NY Knicks took a 2 - 0 lead against the Bulls in the 1993 Eastern Conference Finals before the Bulls turned that series completely around. It's hard to determine how well the Bulls would stack up against an Hakeem Olajuwon led 1994 Houston Rockets team. Patrick Ewing consistently gave the Bulls all they could handle. Hakeem was a whole step above Ewing. And that defines a lot since Ewing was a first ballot Hall of Famer. And the Jazz pushed the Bulls pretty good during the 1998 Finals. 1994 would be a mystery if the Bulls and Rockets played. I do honestly believe that the Bulls would find a way to beat the 1999 San Antonio Spurs with that series going a full 7 games if the Bulls weren't broken up. I don't think the Bulls even with a healthy Scottie and MJ would beat the 2000 Los Angeles Lakers.
@madcapper6
@madcapper6 2 года назад
There's no doubt in my mind the Bulls were better during the second 3-peat as compared to the first and Rodman was the difference. As solid of a contributor Grant was in the first run, Rodman just took them to a higher level defensively. You bring up a good point about the butterfly effect of Jordan's retirement leading to the departure of Grant and the addition of Rodman that led to the 2nd three-peat. Decent chance they could've won both in '94 and '95 had Jordan played and Grant stayed but they wouldn't have been as good or as dominant as they were with Rodman from '96 to '98. I never really considered that because I was never aware or cared to find out the circumstances surrounding Grant's departure after '94. I always assumed it was just a case of another team throwing a bunch of $$ at him and that was that.
@Texan45
@Texan45 4 года назад
Even Jordan said he felt rusty, even tho statistically, he was amazing.
@FuShengAlex
@FuShengAlex 4 года назад
Yeah he also said before the playoffs: "Orlando is not a problem".
@kang6914
@kang6914 4 года назад
Weak excuse
@animeguitarguy
@animeguitarguy 4 года назад
I think psychologically they may have indeed been burnt out. With MJ in those years though it's always a strong possibility
@jp3813
@jp3813 4 года назад
​@Inigo Bantok MJ didn't even sleep much during the Dream Team's tour b/c he played golf & cards in-between basketball games or practices. His teammates talked about his endless energy in the 2012 documentary. The rest of the Bulls is another matter though.
@animeguitarguy
@animeguitarguy 4 года назад
Excellent points. The rest of the team probably would have indeed been the deciding factor
@dylan__nayld8595
@dylan__nayld8595 3 года назад
He probably would of capped at 3 or 4, which is still an amazing amount of championships to have, but the toll it would have on the teams mentally and physically would take a lot of luck and perseverance
@wobblertv8083
@wobblertv8083 Год назад
If that Rockets v Bulls series had happened it would have been awesome .
@g-mancollections5264
@g-mancollections5264 4 года назад
As great as mj was, there's no way he takes both of the years he wasn't in the finals. The rockets were too good. He might take one of those years, but a lot of people forget that Olajuwon was playing outside of this galaxy those two years. Vernon Maxwell was also an absolute beast defender that would've beaten mj up all series long. The bulls didn't have a big guy that could've kept up with Hakeem. He dominated the 3 next best big men in the game those years. I will say this, MJ is the absolute best player of all time, head and shoulders above everyone else... But Hakeem was every bit on his level those two championship years. He MIGHT take one of those years, but no way he takes both.
@grantl7062
@grantl7062 4 года назад
Great video, I think it’s fun to speculate for 94 but he was there in 95, he was rested healthy, rusty yes but he had 17 games and playoffs to get the feel back, he is the goat after all (what is the min number of games to eliminate rust?) the Rockets added Drexler and swept the Magic who beat bulls, 95 belongs to Rockets period
@renenbelen2674
@renenbelen2674 4 года назад
The Bulls would've won 10 straight if MJ did not retire the first and the 2nd time. MJ is all you need to win because of the terror he brings to his opponents.
@pfzt
@pfzt Год назад
Yes, he would have. I watched all the finals back then and there was just nothing like his mental strength and pure will to win, he was just there for every microsecond of the games, that was very intimidating, you could see the pants full of the opponents through the 240 px resolution of the TV back then.
@TenThumbsProductions
@TenThumbsProductions Год назад
Pistons were 1 field goal away from a three peat...
@big-l5771
@big-l5771 4 года назад
Yes without a doubt because in 93 Houston wasn't even a thought. To many bug body's to through at Hakeem
@ryanpowers3155
@ryanpowers3155 4 года назад
if he didnt retire he would have lost in 1998 and in another year injuries fatigue motivation and the best teams he would of had to face in his whole career if he didnt retire its almost impossible he could win 8 and rlly unlikely he wins 7 he would have won 5 or 6 plus the fact that he almost got season ending injuries twice but was lucky and with that many games i think its very likely he would of missed a playoffs from injuries and his team mates might be injuierd like lebrons in 2015 its basically impossible he wins 8 plus in 1994 he did lose in 6 games soo idk how you can say mj wins 8
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent 4 года назад
93 was also the same year the Lakers blew a 2-0 lead in a best of 5 haha
@FuShengAlex
@FuShengAlex 4 года назад
How many bodies did they throw at Shaq when he threw them outta Chicago in game 6 in the United Center?
@sedricgo1563
@sedricgo1563 4 года назад
Scenario 3: Jordan would win 6 to 7 because of The Dream and almost no one can stop him. The Rodman trade can still possibly go through. The Sonics can beat MJ in 96. Hakeem can win in either 94 or 95 but that is only a possibility but I would say that Hakeem would win in 95 because he had Clyde Drexler.
@elijahmorris9864
@elijahmorris9864 4 года назад
You forgot about the Minneapolis Lakers 1952, 53, 54. Also if you count out side the NBA the Minneapolis Lakers did it twice. The first time was NBL 1948, WPBT 1948, BAA (NBA) 1949, & NBA 1950.
@rommelwille4737
@rommelwille4737 4 года назад
We'll never know,but one thing for sure,it's either 7 or 8??when Jordan 1st retirement ,there all in prime,and high confidence
@vanguardas9927
@vanguardas9927 4 года назад
Meanwhile LeBron is praying he can get at least 1 3peat before his career is over lol (Jordan and Kobe both had 3peats)
@ryanpowers3155
@ryanpowers3155 4 года назад
lol kobe had shaq kobe would have 2 chips if shaq didnt come and 1 mvp
@vanguardas9927
@vanguardas9927 4 года назад
@@ryanpowers3155 lebron had wade, bosh, kyrie, love, rose, allen, AD and still sitting on 3 championships...how many all stars does he need to win 5 chips? lol
@ryanpowers3155
@ryanpowers3155 4 года назад
yeah but d wade avenged 15pts in 2014 finals and in the 2013 finals he avenged 19pts by 2013 it wasnt a super team and in 2015 kryie and kevin love were injuired and he has had to go aginst the warriors
@donniepate7313
@donniepate7313 4 года назад
Vanguardas Shaq was the reason for the 3 peat not Kobe.Kobe SUXXED in those playoffs and Finals
@miltongarces9475
@miltongarces9475 4 года назад
@@donniepate7313 spoken like a typical amateur. Stop talking because you sound clueless
@smashph1568
@smashph1568 4 года назад
THEY CANT WIN UNTIL WE QUIT 💍💍💍MJ🐐23💍💍💍
@troyandres3402
@troyandres3402 3 года назад
Loved when MJ said that to Pip! 💯✌🏾
@FuShengAlex
@FuShengAlex 3 года назад
Jordan quit on Chicago vs Orlando at home in game 6 in 95 to lose the series lol
@nicolocadamuro9988
@nicolocadamuro9988 4 года назад
Looking at The Last Dance Jordan actually seemed exhausted at the end of '92, the pressure was too much and motivation was going away. I personally think that he probably would have lost a championship to get the right motivation
@joebuck7495
@joebuck7495 3 года назад
I think that he would have won a 4th, then a 5th...if his dad wasn’t murdered I don’t think he would have retired, but I think he would have quit after 5 or 6 because he wouldn’t feel the drive anymore. He was never as good at driving to the hoop when he came back, but luckily he developed the insane fade away jumper. I always think of that when they talk about how you can lose it if you step away from the game for too long, well he didn’t “Lose it” but he did lose a step on his driving ability and he adapted via the fade away. Ugh I wish he never retired because I liked watching slasher Jordan more than fade away Jordan. Although fade away Jordan was still fun to watch, just not as fun.
@royfablooo2810
@royfablooo2810 3 года назад
I personally think Winning a 3peat then retire to only comeback to win another 3peat is much more amazing than winning 8 straight.
@lukacalov1988
@lukacalov1988 4 года назад
9 straight*
@kyleshockley7772
@kyleshockley7772 Год назад
As a rockets fan the horce grant agrument you used is very good point. In 94 i do not think we beat them with horce, Horry was not that confidet as he was in 95. But in 95 i think we still that 95 rockets refused to go down.
@dubbrown5594
@dubbrown5594 Год назад
Toni Kukoc was the key along with keeping Horace Grant and adding Dennis Rodman
@thepurpleapprentice
@thepurpleapprentice Год назад
Here's what I think: The first repeat occurred. Jordan retires for a year and a half. Returns but loses in the 95 season. Comes back with a modified roster, wins another three. Bulls lose in the 99 season. Maybe in the 2000 season also. A new squad is assembled, and the Bulls win another three. That's the scenario I'm sticking with.
@MadSUPANOVA
@MadSUPANOVA 4 года назад
I believe 7... the 8th would have been really difficult... era started to change by then, teams switching up, young fresh coming in.... guys bodies breaking down... Pippen catching major back spasms... bodies breaking down would be the number one thing that stops them. Tony Kukoc was a big addition when it comes to scoring... and he was a better fluid shooter than jealouse Scottie Pippen... that was when the Bulls was really over. Jealousy within the team. Pippen wanting to be the hero. My era, but that was when the Bulls dynasty was over to me.
@codeofcodedotorg
@codeofcodedotorg Год назад
If Jordan never retired, they would never lose Horace Grant. The only guy they had that can guard Shaq.
@billsikes4007
@billsikes4007 Год назад
Are you saying that Horace Grant could guard Shaq, or did you mean Rodman? I only ask because one of these scenarios is hilariously false.
@codeofcodedotorg
@codeofcodedotorg Год назад
@@billsikes4007 Horace Grant absolutely could NOT guard Shaq. But he is the only guy that they could put on Shaq without getting absolutely humiliated. Which is all that Jordan would have needed to win those 2 rings in my opinion (if he never retired).
@billsikes4007
@billsikes4007 Год назад
@@codeofcodedotorg Good news, we don't have to guess. Jordan came back for the end of the 94-95 season without Grant. They never made it to the finals and at that point, Grant was the only one missing. Just think about that for a moment. Jordan is, arguably, the GOAT. He's just not nearly as great as the masses would tell you.
@Bluecloudprod
@Bluecloudprod 3 года назад
The coaching would have been a huge factor. Phil is... well Phil. Tomjanovich was a master at playing matchups. It would have been so entertaining. I wanted to see it so bad. Really. 1994 would have been one of the greatest series of all time.
@janstapaj9694
@janstapaj9694 4 года назад
That is almost for sure .Nobody was better and MJ was in prime of his career!
@zaco21_
@zaco21_ 2 года назад
My what if: After 1998 Phil Jackson leaves the Bulls which leaves Michael questioning if he should retire or not. In this alternate universe, he decides to sign a 2 year contract. He gets most of the 1997/98 squad back but had to convince Scottie Pippen to come back playing, Pippen agrees to return playing. The NBA lockout helped Michael get time to decide to retire or not. when training camp starts, Michael Jordan accidentally slices his right shooting finger open which automatically leaves him out for a while. Scottie Pippen leads the Bulls while Jordan is out, during that period the Bulls weren’t doing too good, going a 7-13 run in the first quarter of the season. Scottie Pippen has enough and decides he wants to get traded to the Lakers along side Rodman. In return, the Bulls receive Eddie Jones. After a couple games, the team is still struggling but after a long time of being out, Michael Jordan is fit to play. His first game he scored 12 points and played only 24 minutes. In the 2nd game, Jordan scores 60 points in demolition against New Jersey. Before the trade deadline, Michael Jordan acquires Charles Barkley who have been close friends. After Charles Barkley arrived, the Bulls went in a 12 game win streak. In the playoffs, they take care of the Atlanta Hawks in 5 games, were a bit challenged by Miami but got the job done in 6, The Indiana Pacers have another great series against the Bulls, the Bulls win in 7 games in a close hard caught g7. In the NBA Finals, they verse the Tim Duncan Spurs which win the series in 7 games.
@Kickzsince86
@Kickzsince86 4 года назад
I definitely think so. He was still in his prime. Nobody was touching him.!
@MAFion
@MAFion 4 года назад
Check out the stats of Rockets versus Bulls from 1992-1993. In five head-to-head matchups, the Rockets won four.
@ernestchamblee
@ernestchamblee 4 года назад
Great analysis. Awesome video.
@historiaeesporte
@historiaeesporte 4 года назад
Great video. My opinion, no they wouldn't. A topic and a request: a video on Magic Johnson's return, in 1996.
@edwardvincenttrinidad1018
@edwardvincenttrinidad1018 3 года назад
he shut the door for the hall of famers during his era so it is a big possibility. could have been the most difficult feat to surpass.
@thegodzillacollector6226
@thegodzillacollector6226 Год назад
I think that in this case the bulls would have won in 94 but lost in the finals in 95. I don’t think they would have made the finals in 96. I do think they would have won in 97 but not make the finals in 98 due to the extra years Jordan would’ve played in the league (this is because Jordan would’ve had more wear and tear to his body). Do Jordan ends up with 5 championships and 1 finals loss. I think everything ended perfectly for the Bulls and Rockets though.
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