@@darnellwilliams8783 BIRD OWNS BOTH DOMINIQUE AND MJ. HE SWEPT EM SO MANY TIMES THEN GO TO HIS CORN FIELD TO DRIVE TRACTOR AND LAUGH FOR MARKETING WHO SELL THOSE SHOES IN CITY WITH WORDS : I SWEPT THEM WHEN THEY TURN OFF CAMERA I KNOW IM THE GOD BUT INFRONT CAMERA ILL JUST PLAY WITH PPL MIND SAY OTHER THINGS.
@@abner0584 His resume is better than Jordan cause he led team in more wins and playoff success. Jordan is 1-9 in career thats not even a resume thats joke.
@@abner0584 Pippen 55 games show me jordan 40 games won in any team ?? Dude enter 1985 playoff with 32-50 resume that shows lack of competition. Pippen won 55 games MJ resume is today like 28th place from 30 teams
It still is puzzling how Pippen always had nothing but praise for MJ. Pippen had MJ present for him at the HOF...like was all that praise fake? Or did he just turn on MJ because of the Last Dance, him selling his book, and his family drama...? Weird dynamics going on with Pippen
i thin he went a bit crazy after that 403 left him for the offspring of someone he was jealous of. in the words of the wise Future '‘its a evil world we live in''
Seriously I still remember that ESPN show with Rachel Nichols when Pippen laid out his argument for why MJ was better than LeBron, and T Mac was gleefully sipping his cup of tea in full agreement. Recent events have made Pippen bitter and depressed. His son died, his wife left him for MJ's son, the Last Dance brought up his less shining moments. Pippen feels very vulnerable and he sees MJ as the bad guy (albeit wrongfully) and is lashing out.
@@PIP...33 why u so emotional? If you want pippens schlong in your throat just tell him 😂😂. And why u bringing bird into this? Stick to the topic fruit loop.
Jerry West was known for saying that Jordan is the most skilled player he has seeing on the show with Terrell Owens. Reggie Miller and others have said it on the nba show where they went back in history. They went on to say that he was the most fundamentally sound player ever for a high skilled player.
@@mannyneva1760 NOPE HE JUST SAY THAT CAUSE HE IS GM SO HE CAN HAVE GOOD RELATYION WITH OTHER GM'S U DERANGED. TILL WILT DIED . WEST NEVER SAY A THING ESPECIALLY DURING 50 GOAT CEREMONY. WHEN WILT STOOD INFRONT MJ , HE STARE IN GROUND. Afraid too look wilt in the eye cause he knows whos real goat !!
Michael Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs LeBron james carried an absolutely horrific 2007 Cleveland Cavaliers team to the nba finals In the modern NBA era (post 1960) only nine NBA top 75 players have won a championship without another top 75 player as a teammate Rick Barry (1975) Bill Walton (1977) Hakeem Olajuwon (1994) Tim Duncan (2005) (2007) Kobe Bryant (2009) (2010) Steph Curry (2015) (2022) LeBron james (2016) Kawhi Leonard (2019) Giannis Antetokounmpo (2021) As you can see, LeBron James is on the list and Michael Jordan isnt Lebron james has won 17 playoff series, without an nba top 75 teammate. Michael Jordan won ZERO LeBron james has won 10 conference championships Michael Jordan won 6......Only Bill Russell and Sam Jones have more conference championships (In a mostly nine team league) than LeBron James In the year before Michael Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Michael Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Michael Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!! I have added a Postscript So many have replied, that LeBron james didn't make the playoffs his first two years and Jordan did. What they fail to say is, in 1985, 16 of 23 teams made the playoffs. In 2004, 16 of 29 teams made the playoffs. It was MUCH EASIER Making the playoffs in 1985. Perfect example is the 1985 86 bulls went 30-52 and made the playoffs and the 2004 05 cavaliers went 42-40 and did not make the playoffs. Also, I don't know, possibly, maybe, Jordan had a HUGE ADVANTAGE considering he played three years of college basketball and LeBron James was 19 years old, and straight out of high school
Wilkins gave us a calm, very truthful and common sense perspective. He sounded like a basketball professional and his comments were nothing but truth based on sound facts and unbiased opinions
The thing about Scottie is that he can talk like that now because we are not in the moment of the 90’s anymore. Anyone who’s lived it like Dominique firsthand will know how much bullshit he’s been saying. Scottie is also doing a disservice to the game because he’s just giving more fuel to the dumb ways some people talk about bball now like that Scottie and MJ graphic. I think that’s why it’s so important for the league to try and give ways to educate us younger fans but they don’t, even with the endless library of games they must have. So the documentaries (specifically older ones, for older players/eras) that they made in the moment about those teams, eras, and championship years are about as good as it gets imo.
The New Generation don't GAF about history or how these legends carried themselves. Respect is a thing of the past... Dominique has 1 reason to be SALTY and he's not..he and MJ Respected each other on and off the court BUT when it was Go time there were no friendships to be had and when it was done it was All Good Today..these new ballers all wanna be friends and make moves..yes I get it big money to be had BUT now their lazy with it.. load management slack defense. Competition went out in the early 2000 I think the 90s was the last of the old guard.. Today Respectfully I don't regard this game the same it's WATERED DOWN
Kids today have adhd. Why do you think the league was made easier to score in with the zero step rule and carrying not being called? It's so the scores can be sky high. Casual fans like scoring. They don't care about defense, only offense. That's why the US sucks on the world stage, our players are getting worse while world players are getting better because they stick to the fundamentals.
For Pippen… there was no way to swap out MJ and get the same results. If you swap out Pippen… there are loads of alternatives that MJ could play with to get those rings.
For Pippen to state that, Jordan had no rings before he arrived, it's interesting to consider that, when MJ left, the Bulls didn't win in 1993-94 nor 1994-95. Pippen should have carried the Bulls to another two championships, should he have not?
Dominic Wilkins is just a real guy and he respects the era before him and the era that he played in, along with the players he played against. And does this without disrespecting the new era of basketball
That’s so true. Pippen without MJ nobody would talk about him. Jordan maybe wouldn’t gotten that many rings but one thing for sure he wouldn’t retire without one at least. Pippen owed MJ his status in the nba today
Pippen was a absolute monster on the court and undoubtedly would’ve had better numbers and got more praise outside of Jordan’s control and shadow. We would still be talking about him today just differently.
The only argument I need for this Pippen stupidity: "If Scottie Pippen was the reason MJ won 6 rings, then why didn't he win even one ring when he went to Portland and Houston??"
Exactly. If situation was that it was Pippen who retired in 93 instead of Jordan, Jordan would've gotten them to at least the finals, and once in the finals, I'm not betting against him.
@@Lee5Carter Can't prove that. Jordan didn't won shit without Pippen. Pippen IS the reason MJ won 6, nothing wrong about that. And Mj was the reason Pippen won 6.
The jealousy will always come out in the end. Pippen was jealous that Mike carried him to all those titles. There isn’t even a close series where one could argue Pippen could be finals MVP.
@@darnellwilliams8783carried them to nothing you lebron fanboys try to act like pippen did everything for the bulls when he was getting carried by Jordan lol pippen dropped 7 points against the pistons in game 7 while Jordan dropped 47🤣🤣 lol the only teammate Jordan truly needed was Rodman
@@darnellwilliams8783 SELFISH PPL HAVE JELLY CHARACTER. SINCE PIPPEN WAS TEAM PLAYER PLAYMAKER HE CANT BE JELLY HE JUST REVENGE CAUSE HE GOT ENOUGH OF MJ TRY EARN OVER HIM. THAT DOCUMENTARY PROVED MJ IS NOT GREAT HE LEFT LONGLEY OUT OF IT, AND THROWS GERVIN AND PIPPEN TO NO REASON UNDER BUS. NOW ITS TIME FOR PAYBACK.
Everyone knew scottie was nice back in the day. Everyone back in the 90s always had nothing but good things to say. But we all know damn well, no player, gm, owner or fan would ever select scottie over mike, thats just crazy talk. Its a cheap way to diminish mike, like "oh he wasnt the best guy on his team." I literally watch old games, and there are a bunch of times pippen folds in clutch situations and mikes gotta bail him out, not the other way around.
Scottie is angry because he feels like he’s in Jordan’s shadow and hasn’t ever been given his due and recognized for his talent; he’s always just been “Jordan’s sidekick”. And I think it’s true to some degree, I think Pippen is under appreciated. His role as an emotional leader to pick people up when Jordan kicked them down, is bigger than people know. But regardless, he’s not Larry Bird, and he’s not Jordan. He’s good, but he’s not in that GOAT debate. He needs to accept his lot, grow up emotionally, and stop attacking his best Teammate ever, because it’s making him look foolish.
It’s not accurate to say Scottie is mad at Jordan because the situation with his ex wife. Scottie had already started acting a fool before any of that even happened. Scottie is mad because of the way the last dance documentary portrayed him.
@@Adaptation49.42💯 Bron fans love Pippen MORE than they love the players that ACTUALLY played with James & helped him win those 4 chips in 20 seasons. 😂 There are copious amounts of videos of Scottie calling MJ the GOAT for 20 odd years until the Last 💃🏼 Dance, then everything changed. Pippen just mad cause that documentary showed how he could be a selfish, childish teammate, or are y’all forgetting he also had the audacity to call Phil Jackson a racist too? Pip only has himself to blame for how he came across in that doc & the only people who can’t see that are the folk that hate Michael Jordan. I’d even say Rodman was more important to that Bulls 2nd 3-peat than Pippen, hell at that stage, Pip was more like Alfred than Robin. Scottie Trippin, all in his feelings, while MJ smoking TWO Cubans with 3BILLION in the bank.😊
Scottie has a lot of anger at this point and he's just lashing out. Through all the financial troubles he's been through, and now with the whole ex thing, I'm pretty sure 99% of us will just simply crumble. Imagine having the world and blunddering it, and having your wife leave for someone you literally watch grow up, I understand Pippen's frustration and anger. As far as what Pippen is saying about Jordan being a bad Teammate and a bad leader, I would agree with him in someways as well. With the story of how Jordan simply destroyed people careers like Kwame or that Bulls kid, and the stories like Jordan punching Kerr, he doesn't sound like a good teammate by any means. With that said, if anyone is arguing Pippen is a better "player" than Jordan or could accomplish more on his own, they would be delusional. Pippen in 93 couldn't get to the conference finals with relatively the same squad that won the finals. Then Pippen on the Rockets and Blazers simply flamed out as well. Not to mention the amount of negativity that came with his stint on the Rockets (feud with Chuck), and the Blazers (bad locker room presence). Feel sorry for the man, and hopefully he gets some help before he goes down the dark path some more.
John Salley's basketball takes are as subjective as they come. He's a Bad Boy Piston to his core and that will always influence what he says about MJ. He played a total of 17 regular season games for the Chicago Bulls and a total 85 minutes in the postseason for them. Not enough to soften a guy's heart, like for Rodman who battled for 3 full seasons alongside Jordan. Further proof of that: John Salley also played in every playoff series for the 2000 Lakers team. That means he played with all-time greats Shaq and Kobe. John could have said Kobe was the most skilled player he's ever played with. But that wouldn't work as well because Kobe was a Jordan copycat. He realized he could try to diminish Jordan more by picking Jordan's best teammate to use instead. See how John's mind works?
It's unfortunate that Pippen is doing this for whatever reason because all I remember from that time is how incredible BOTH of them were. I hope they can recover their friendship someday.
In what ?? He had Moses Malone and couldnt win. Pippen carry team alone literally in every stats. Wilkins never knew how to pass or defend and Bird drop 60 on him. No one ever drop 60 on Pip.
@@SowerOfMustardSeed No one chose Wilkins 50 goat cause he cant pass rebound or lead team with MVP Moses. Shaq was 2 year in NBA when ppl voted him for 50 goat infront Dominique.
Dominique knows his stuff and I am glad he comes out full swing protecting the legacies of Jordan and Bird. He played against these guys on a regular basis for years!! He knows what he is talking about!!
Scottie pippen jealous look at Michaels net worth close to 2 billion and the world still talkin about Michael and not Scottie pippen jealousy pure jealousy
Everyone points to the 55-win season without Jordan. I think it had a lot to do with Horace Grant as much as Scottie. Horace often doesn't get the credit for his defense and rebounding. Because once Horace left, Scottie led the Bulls to a 34-31 record before Jordan unretired. And it was Horace that killed the Bulls in the 95 playoffs. And then the Bulls swept the Magic next year, and big surprise, Horace was injured most of that series. Andalso the 93-94 team that had both Toni and Grant on the same team something Jordan never head.
I think when sally was saying most skilled he meant skilled at each position on offense and defense. He even said at each position. That combination of positions equaling most skilled. No way was he saying overall talent on the court but accumulated skill by position.
Literally all they have to do is go watch the games... the film doesn't lie. Aint no way I'd have bron on my starting 5 tho, he's nothin but a liability on both ends anymore
can you make a vid about how clutch jordan and larry bird are and how far is the gap between other players in clutchness not just game winners and buzzer beaters but the last 5 minutes in a close game. i think thats what separates jordans wins vs strong teams vs lebrons loses cause he came up short in the last few minutes to seal the win
As a "small forward", Pippen SHOULD average more "all around stats" than a "shooting guard". Just like LeBron had better stats than Devin Booker... But to argue barely 200 more rebounds, q26 more steals and 20 more blocks over 1500 fewer points is SADNESS!!
@@theetruth8626 Lebron has played with nearly 50 all stars in his career! None were Jordan sure. But he’s more then adequate help since first leaving the cavs in 2010!
Good vid. I always thought Pippen was over-rated, especially offensively. Defensively, Pipp was one of best all-time...but who drove him to be that good? MJ, "the" best defensive guard of all time, who was BRUTAL to Pippen during practice in his first few seasons, and drove him to become the player that he became. Basically, Pippen was a beast in the open court, and was very good taking the ball to the hoop, and then later in career, developed a solid (not great) mid-range game. Most of his points came off teams doubling MJ (or at least leaning towards him). Most teams basically allowed Pippen to score/shoot as much as he wanted. But Pippen fans, remember this: at his peak (1993-94), without Jordan, Pippen was a very good all-around player. He averaged 22/8.7/5.7. Very good numbers. BUT NOT ELITE! He NEVER was an elite scorer. 22ppg was by far his best year. After he left the Bulls, Pippen was average offensively (14ppg,12,11,10.5 next 4 seasons, and his defense wasn't on par either).
For some reason that song Scotty doesn't know from some movie keeps popping in my head when I hear Scottie pippens name today. Maybe it's the whole Michael Jordan's son and Scotties X situation... Scotty big mad 🤣🤣🤣
To be clear Pippen could be replaced by another fringe star. Jordan could not. You can get any star and put them with Jordan and win a chip but you try the same with pippen and youre likely making the wcfs? Or youre like barkley and you get to the dance but you dont win.
@@armandodelossantos736that doesn't contradict the first comment. They both needed a good player. It's just any good player would have worked with Jordan whereas Pipen wouldn't go as far with anyone else than Jordan.
@@armandodelossantos736 It is not 100% false everyone even Jordan needs help from teammates you could have put any fringe allstar with someone like jordan saying otherwise is casual talk or blubber from lebron fans. Jordan never played with a star before pippen but it could have been any other star. jordan was averaging a ridiculous amount of point in the finals. The idea that he needed scotty in particular is ridiculous. Scotty after Jordan had plenty of help but never won again.
@@cloudwalker9572fr, people like to say that the bulls won 2 less games without Jordan in 1994. but the regular season doesn't mean shit without a ring. the 73-9 warriors not winning in 2016 is an example of this. those 94 bulls got bounced out the second round. Scottie collapsed when he was needed and can't lead a team as the guy.
It’s this simple. If jordan and Dominique played together. They would of won a ring a year or two sooner If pippen and Dominque played together. They ain’t winning the championship. Ever lol It’s that simple
I get your point, and agree for the most part. But I think Nique could have got to the mountain top if he had a Pippen level supporter. But yeah… Jordan, Nique would have been sick
You can find another pippen type player!! Grant hill, anfernee hardaway, kawhi leonard, paul george, sean elliot, tashawn prince, danny granger, chris bosh...and more!!
All around versatility ≠ more skilled. Westbrook is the all-time leader in triple doubles and you'd be out of your mind if you chose him over Magic, who was just as versatile, but unequivocally more efficient and a better leader.
@@_M.... only 4 players ever managed to lead team in all stats !! Pippen , KG, Wilt and David Cowens. Jordan is just bradley beal. He cant do nothing else on floor. Pippen control pace pass rebound lock down full court, scoring steals posters and most matter he is leader unlike MJ whos 1st round exit.
Sally his own definition of skills. Generally an NBA fan would talk skill and look at Kyrie Irving, Stephen Curry, Kobe Bryant, and of course Michael Jordan. Does Pip have better handles? No Does Pip have a better mid-range game? No Does Pip have a better footwork? No Does Pip have a better back-to-basket game? No Does Pip have a more complete layup package? No Does Pip have a better jumpshot? No Is Pip a better passer? Arguably but I've seen Jordan play point-guard and can also do sick passes. Is Pip a better dunker? No Is Pip a better shot-blocker? No, I mean peak Jordan averaged more blocks than Joel Embiid despite being 6'6, Pip would never touch that. Plus Jordan can swat the ball using both hands which is extremely difficult. I mean Pip can defend more dudes because he has a bigger windspan, he has more physical tools than Jordan. Jordan with Pippen's height and length - I mean, game over - Jordan would have been a much bigger problem and this nonsense GOAT debate would have been more nonsense.
You know if you youtube THE SMOKE JOHN SALLEY it should bring up the interview that John Salley had and he corrected himself about that statement that you showed in your video.
Who is your Unbeatable Starting line-up? Same on the skills team but a Jordan, Kobe, Bird, Olajuwon w/ Rodman, KG or Giannis beats the one with LeBron on it. My Best of 7 Unbeatable Starting line-up: Anything Goes Traditional Oddball PG: Magic Magic Magic SG: Jordan Jordan Jordan SF: Bird Bird Giannis PF: Olajuwon Duncan Olajuwon C: Kareem Kareem Shaq
But that has nothing to do with basketball, nor does it have anything to do with Jordan. Bad mouth Marcus...he's the one piping your ex. Incidentally she's his ex, why should he even care who's piping her. Pippen is soft, always has been always will be a little bitch.
Absolutely no need to show Pippen's Knicks incident in the last dance. MJ wasn't even playing! Totally fine for MJ to call Pip selfish for delaying his surgeries but that kukoc shot has nothing to do with MJ's final run!
How can bozo john salley say scottie was the most skills player he ever played with when scottie was basically a 60% range free throw shooter?? Isnt shooting free throws a skill?? I could go on but that is just an easy one!!
I've also been saying that if Pippen went to another team, nobody is talking about him at all, today. He even said he didnt take basketball as seriously as he should have, for the first couple years. Imagine if he was on a team without a guy like Jordan to push him into taking it seriously.
Jordan would win the same titles w/ any other comparable All-Star wing during those seasons just like Shaq would've won those first 3 rings w/ any other All-Star wing. Jordan would've won with: 1991: Dominique, Drexler, Bernard King, Mullin, or old college teammate Worthy 1992: Dominique, Drexler, Reggie Lewis, Mullin, Worthy 1993: Dominique, Drexler, Mullin, Sean Elliot, Schrempf, Grandmama 1996: Drexler, Penny, Reggie Miller, G. Hill, G. Rice, S. Elliot 1997: Drexler, G. Hill, Penny, G. Rice, Schrempf, Sprewell, Eddie Jones 1998: Kobe, Penny, G. Hill, R. Miller, S. Smith, E. Jones
@@kingsleyjackson8287 Imagine Jordan w/ Shaq? I was using Wings since Pippen was a Wing. Imagine Jordan with any legit All-Star Big? If Jordan was like LeBron he would've gone to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers after saying he would only play for Phil but Jordan was too competitive for that.
Basketball is and always has been a team sport. You can' t win by your yourself. The right combination of player with compliimentary skills makes this a beautiful sport. Even the players on the brench are involved.
I think Scottie has hated MJ long before LArsa and Marcus Jordan. Remember, in his book, he said he never gave MJ his condolences for the death of his father.
I find it funny when people say what would Micheal Jordan be without Scottie Pippen? but they won't say what would Scottie Pippen be without Micheal Jordan?
bronsexuals in the media have been hyping pippen up for years. he is the only player that gets better after he retired. and thats only done to prop up lebron because in truth, nobody gives a shit about pippen. add that to the personal shit that guy is going through and you get a perfect explanation for his behaviour.
The sad part is Pippin doesn't win shit without Michael Jordan. If Pippen doesn't come along Michael Jordan wins multiple championships with a host of other players, that's the part that people don't get and can't fathom Michael was going to have a winning team he was going to make his team win and he would have done that with or without Pippin.
Michael Jordan took a bunch of Crackheads to the Playoffs in 1986 coming back from a knee injury. People try to discredit MJ for getting stopped in the playoffs by The Celtics and The Pistons; The 86 Celtics were arguably the best team in the 80s and the Badboy Pistons were the dirtiest team of all Time.
Don't be confused about the skilled comment. Pippen being more skilled is irrelevant. He had those skills. He did not have the same obsessive determination. He did not have the same competitive spirit. He did not have the same discipline or work ethic. And he simply did not out perform MJ. Mike Vick and RG3 are 3 of the most skilled QBs of all time. More skilled than both Manning's, Brady, Rodgers, Marino, Montana etc. If you took every QB from history and put each of them at every position for 1 full game Vick, RG3, Tebow, Cam Newton and a few other ringless QBs who will not make the Hall of Fame would all do better than most HoF QBs at RB, WR, TE, LB, CB, S, KR, PR, DE and maybe even K/P. Does the fact that they were more athletically skilled matter at all? No. Because they didn't do what the HoF QBs did at the QB position. Their athleticism didn't translate into more wins or better career stats.
@AutistikManiac This is the argument Sally made. Scottie could play more positions. RG3 would be a better WR, RB, KR, PR, S and CB than any Manning because he had more general skills. He just wasn't a better QB.
If we're talking about skill! We have to add IQ in terms of facilitating the play. With that Criteria: Magic, Bird, Zeke, Stockton, JKidd Jokic....G.Hill, Penny and TMac their value is incalculable!
We got a glimpse into who pippen was in the last dance. Kinda took on that victim roll. left the team hanging as a way to make a statement to bulls gm rather than working it out how he should have.. so this lashing outdont suprise me
