It goes to show the legendary skill of Peter Jackson as a director, to be the one guy out of 33,000 people to point out that Gandalf had the wrong the staff.
Proves that it's an easy mistake to make if no one else out of thousands of people noticed! Not even Ian himself who should know almost as much as Peter about his character.
Everyone in this production was stretched so thin. It's a wonder the films weren't even worse, given the awful conditions Warner Bros had put them under.
I do like these films but it's a shame what a mess production was with the behind the scenes drama. They would have been something magical if they had been given ample time and planning.
Ah don't be mad at Matt, stuff like that can happen. Especially considering nobody else was apparently paying any attention at all. Its not like managing props is easy if you are that way down on the ladder and mostly of the time don't even know much about the story you are shooting in the first place.
I HAD NO FUCKING CLUE DR WHO PLAYED RADAGAST!!!! OMFG....I just nerdgasmed. I thought he looked familiar!!!! I just couldn't pinpoint it! I'm so happy!
Gandalf has five staffs in the span of these films Staff 1 ... His original staff, it was later destroyed by Sauron in the Hobbit Battle of Five Armies Staff 2 .. after he lost his original staff, Radagast gave his staff to Gandalf. Gandalf later removed the blue stone on its top and returned it to Radagast. This second staff is used by Gandalf in the remaining of Hobbit Battle of Five Armies and the same staff we saw on the first half of LOTR. It was later confiscated by Saruman after he defeat Gandalf at Orthanc Tower Staff 3 .. Lord Elrond gave gandalf a new staff after he escaped Orthanc Tower. This staff was used by Gandalf until Moria where he lost it during his fight with the Balrog Staff 4... After resurrection and become Gandalf the White, Galadriel gave him a new white staff. This staff was destroyed during Gandalf s encounter with the Witch King of Angmar Staff 5 ... On the last scenes of LOTR when Gandalf is about to ride the ship to Grey Havens, he is seen using a new staff. Perhaps given again by Galadriel.
Lowkey prop management is one of the most difficult jobs. Imagine if Ian took notice, he just realized "oh, wrong staff buddy." and boom it was all fixed. Nobody is to blame, you ALL FORGOT.
Gandalf's wrong *staff*, not wrong stuff (in your video title) ! ;-) Thanks for uploading all these awesome bts clips and extras. I've enjoyed quite a few already. I'm going to buy the DVD boxes after X-Mas, since I had to spend so much money this year on renovating my home, but it's cool being able to already watch this stuff now. :-)
I was hoping Peter Jackson would make a scene for the wizard counsel with all members present including more wizards. and I would also like to have seen sorrow on and Saruman fighting Sauron the story behind how he joined Saruman.
He would have stabbed the lore of the novels completelly then. In the books, little is said abou the assault of the Council against the Necromancer... but one thing is sure: the Two Blue Wizards (the only ones not to appear) where not present; as they traveled far away and never appeared again in the Middle Earth. About the Nâzgul being in Dol Guldur... not accurate either. They where in Minas Morgul, in Mordor; fidthing a cold war against Gondor, and secretly re-building the Dark Country to prepare Saurons reutrn... And about Sarumans downfall... did not occur there neither. After Sauron fleed to Bard-Dhur; Saruman and the Council had not power to attack him in Mordor; where his magic level was almost god-like and his orcs armies would prevent any attack... So, Saruman begun preparing schemes to take down Sauron. He studied the nature of the Rings; planing maybe to create some of his own... He also spyed Mordor and its defenses using the Palantir of Orthanc. But the Witch King had conquered the old Gondorian citty of Minas Ithil; and corrupted it into Minas Morgul; and the Palantir of Morgul was offered to Sauron. With his own Palantir, Sauron could "interceptate" the vision of Saruman. At first, the White Wizzard would be cautious... but with time he would defied the Dark Lord, engage him in large converstions, look in his mind, search for a weak spot... Saruman learned a lot in this studies. He spent decades in this battle of wills with Sauron. But Sauron and Saruman where too alike to begin with. Saruman soon learned thre was no hope. He slowly surrendered to Sauron... he begun to build an orc army in the deeps of the Tower. He offered sumision to his new master... In his mind; however, Saruman was ploting to overtake the Dark Lord. To learn of him to later stabb him. But as Gandalf stated, the power ends up corrupting. By the time of "The Fellowshipof the Ring"; Saruman is dedicated to betray and destroy Sauron... he wants the Ring for himself. But not to free Middle Earth... but to become the new Dark Lord. So, long story short; Sruman took YEARS to switch sides; showing it in the Hobbit would have been an abismal error.
Absolument magique de voir ça aujourd'hui... J'ai prêté comme Rad'Agast mon bâton de marche avant-hier à quelqu'un pour jouer le rôle d'Athéna furax contre Méduse au thê-atre ! :-D
Am I the only one who thinks that Radagast was ONLY LENDING the staff? Like... is he just WITHOUT A STAFF now? I’m pretty sure these are like the 7 Deadly Sins anime’s sacred treasures so... nice job Gandalf
FUN FACT: you can still see the wrong staff in the actual movie in a quick 2 sec shot when legolas comes to dale not a full view but you can tell its the old staff from the shot go to movie with 52:52 remaining for film and you will see it
It's one way to show that despite being a wizard fighting on the good side, there are also powerful beings fighting on the bad side and that Gandalf cannot solve all of their problems.
+Monsour Anda Radagast didn't quit being a wizard after the Battle of Five Armies. He had a small role in Lord Of The Rings, but Radagast's actions during and after the rest of the War are not recorded.
Supposedly (we really don't know) Radagast was so root on Middle Earth that he gave up his mission... I mean, the Istari where supposed to face Sauron. Saruman became leader of "the resistance"; and became lord of wisdom and knowledge; even the one concerning Sauron (orc-making, ring making, dark magic...) basically becoming Sauron's disciple in the process... Both Blue wizards dissapeared from history; probably travelled out of Middle Earth (Rhun, Harad or even further) and didn't appear again. Radagast, stayed in Middle Earth; but he was in love with the creatures and the beasts. His colour, "the Brown"; marked his connection with nature and wildlife... In the Hobbit they portray his a kind of hippie... althougth in the books is stated that he continues to serve the Council, but Saruman despises him in secret, considering him the weakest of them all. Lot of the creatures Saruman controls, are indeed 'taken from' Radagast; who offers their services to Saruman in the believe that the White Mage is still the greater enemy of Sauron... but when the war comes by; Radagst remains in his home, in the Southern Black Forest. He surelly does not participate in the war between Dol Guldur and Lothlorien (otherwise Galadriel would have menioned him) but he could have help the Beorlings (descendants of Beorn) or simply help the creatures of the woods... He could also serve as a messenger between Rivendel and the Eagles, as thesse beast offer themselves as messengers during the war (this is why they arrive in time to Mordor in the final battle... and NO, they weren't suitable for a stealth mission) but no information is given for sure... Only Gandalf remains loyal to his mission. He wanders Middle Earth for ages, helping people and meddling in businnes; creating enemies and rivals; but eventually bringing always a happy ending (the Hobbit is a good example). Although he grows atached to the people of the land (the same Saruman gets attach to the power and the misteries of magic, politics and science; and Radagast to beast and creatures) Ganfalf always works with just one goal: defeating Sauron. Even the Shire; witch it is his own soft spot (only goes there as sort of vacation) ends up twisted when he realises that only hobbits can whistand the Rings power for a prolongate period; hence being needed a hobbit to bear the Ring to Mordor. After Sauron is defeated; Gandalf feels completed, his quest fullfilled; feels the need to leave his beloved land and return to Valinor. After all, he was a master bound to teach a path, not a man destined to walk it. In contrast, Saruman ended diying, his soul errant without a body; unable to corrupt or hurt anyone no more. About the Blues, nothing is now; but surelly they would remain wandering the world, the same as Radagast; too obsesed with the wonders of the world to ever consider their mission has been allready completed. Will they return to Valinor? Or willt they fade into oscurity? Or remain foerever as wanderes, lost in time and purppose? We don't really now...
Dear Victoria Sullivan, script supervisor; "Halfway down the Anduin, with the lot of our coin." Anduin. Anduin. I believe it is CENDUIN THE RIVER RUNNING flowing from Long Lake Esgaroth. Get your scripting right. Also, thanks, Matt.
They are upset about one guy swap the staff. They are not upset about the entire bullshit they made out of the Hobbit. They created new nonsense characters and inserted non-existing scenes, the battle was just idiocy from the beggining to the end so why the staff matters so much in the end?
I left my manly staff inside Anne Coulter cooter...!!! Sad to say she crushed it with her Italian scooter...!!! Aaahhh... The beginnings of a Country Song.
I love that film so much but the thing which I didn't like it and it makes me very very sad is the day of the both of the in and filly and Lilly it can will be a great with happy ending
+Gustavo Deckard Wasn't their fault, though. Peter Jackson wasn't even supposed to direct this but they called him in a rush after Guillermo del Toro quit, which meant he had no time to prep at all and most of the production ended up CGI because the studio rushed them