WTF Xiegu? (GSOC teardown)

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I have a lot to say about this one... not much of it is all that great. Let's take a look inside and see what this thing's got going for it?? Anything??
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@TheToastDog 11 месяцев назад

Xiegu employees repeatedly told me that they had a “significant” update that boasted some “exciting new features” being released in December of 2021. I recognized a couple months later that they were just trying not to let on that it was already abandoned, and I sold mine to a ham who wanted to experiment with it, and didn’t care that it was likely going to be an expensive paperweight. By now we all know that Xiegu likes the “ready, fire, aim” approach.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Sometimes they do a good enough job that its ok to play with for the price. This isn't one of those times.

@mdwestlund1 11 месяцев назад

The IQ to the back of the g90. The IQ to the back of gsoc. I've been using my gsoc for a while. The IQ cable is a special cable that came with it. Unless an Extra doesn't need to listen to a general.

@n4gix 6 месяцев назад

@@mdwestlund1 - You echoed my thoughts exactly. The I/Q cable is a must if you wish to see the waterfall. However, the waterfall does not shift along with the tuned frequency... I've had a G90 for about six years and love it. However, I did invest in the GSOC but have never even unboxed it as of yet. Now I'm not all that stoked about the expensive paperweight! 💩

@W4TRI 11 месяцев назад

I've actually been living under an Icom rock since I sold/traded the X6100. Never knew this existed. Looks like a grand attempt at the time.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

It was just out of their reach.

@davidw3gzs55 11 месяцев назад

I bought the GSOC when it first came out and sent it back after three days.There were so many problems with the device. I have noticed similar problems, like the birdies, on the x6100 which I now have. If it wasn't for the x6100 alt FW, I wouldn't have kept it. Whenever Xiegu products are mentioned online, I think of the cover photo on the May 2021 issue of CQ magazine: It's of two young Chinese hams in Shanghai operating CW. Look closely in the background of the picture and they're using an Elecraft KX3. No Xiegus are in sight.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Smart move!

@JT-py9lv 11 месяцев назад

*Thanks for being AWESOME !!!*

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Right back atcha!

@JonathanKayne 11 месяцев назад

12:00 SSOP = Shrink Small Outline Package. With through hole components we have DIP (Dual Inline Package) but for Surface mount we have different sized packages. The largest one you will usually encounter is the SOIC/SOP. There is also smaller ones like SSOP and TSSOP.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

So many words! Thanks!

@MassiveOxyotl 11 месяцев назад

This GSOC device is in needs of custom firmware development. It was always been an 'alpha' testing product, however potential is there for enterprising developers to make it work.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Like a lot of Xiegu products

@Frank_K4FMH 11 месяцев назад

Nice digs, TO! I can't think of a more disappointing product release by a commercial manufacturer in the ham radio space in recent memory. I pre-ordered one from Jerry Wanger at Connect Systems. He refunded my money when he got them in and saw just how dysfunctional they were vis-a-vis product specs. Seems Xiegu saw this too (WTF?) and ran to the X6100.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Right! Thanks!

@cj5947 11 месяцев назад

I may have missed it in your connections but I did not see the I/Q port connected. The I/Q port is for input to the GSOC. Is it not required?

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Some people in the comments say they need it, others say they are successful without it. The G90 head doesn't need it, so why would the GSOC?

@mattb9390 11 месяцев назад

As mentioned previously you need to connect the I/Q cable from the back of the G90 to the input on the GSOC. Also last time I checked the latest G90 firmware was not fully compatible with the GSOC.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

It makes sense that it needed I/Q signals, but the G90's head works just fine without the I/Q cable, so it didn't make sense to plug it in that way... and I was seeing very weak hints at data on the waterfall.

@mattb9390 11 месяцев назад

@@temporarilyoffline Understood, just telling you how mine works.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

@mattb9390 unfortunately, I don't think it merits trying again 🤣

@adventureswithsteve2981 11 месяцев назад

@@temporarilyoffline serial cable is for Cat control

@W4TRI 11 месяцев назад

GT811 touch screen controller for those playing along at home! . :) Love the video TO!

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Thank you Thank you!

@jeffashby1506 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the work you put into the review. I find the GSOC a very good accessory to the G90, and despite the cost am very pleased with it overall. I do NOT have any problems regarding the accuracy of the displayed frequency. Did you check the RIT value I wonder? Mine is set to '0'.

@temporarilyoffline 9 месяцев назад

I didn't check it.

@Mach7RadioIntercepts 11 месяцев назад

Is there a hidden setting for the carrier offset? That might explaib why we hear olivia on '074. Also, where can we make changes to the waterfall palette? A different color scheme would show signals better...

@Mach7RadioIntercepts 11 месяцев назад

"might explain" hehe thare's fat finger spelling.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

I didn't see anything.

@yinglyca1 11 месяцев назад

@@temporarilyoffline Press function menu #7 RCLK frequency adjustment.......

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@yinglyca1 11 месяцев назад

@@temporarilyoffline de ve3tya

@oobihdahboobeeboppah 11 месяцев назад

I got rid of mine because the support from xiegu was next to non-existent, and got a Yaesu 891. The G90 and the GSOC are pretty to look at but there're problems with long term support. The way it seems to me is they're more interested in whatever is on the drawing board next, not supporting what they have out there.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Thats Xigue for ya, yep

@barrymayson2492 9 месяцев назад

This seems to be the way they work in the whole of China, rather than fix a problem they produce a new design. It seems it's cheaper to do that fix issues.

@HamTechRadioScannerDrones 6 дней назад

I got blutooth working - Radioddity seem to have taken this on .

@temporarilyoffline 6 дней назад

Sweet!

@ColbyHiggs 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the show!

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

You bet!

@dan_in_sd 11 месяцев назад

So the use case might be... if im on the couch and the radio is on the desk nearby. I could get a 25ft. DB9 cable and enjoy the g90 from the couch. just saying. hell, for that matter, the g90 could be downstairs and I could upstairs. would be a very long cable, but still possible.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

With hams, all things are possible

@DonzLockz 11 месяцев назад

I've seen them but never really understood them because the price was so high. Thanks for confirming my opinion on these T.O. :)

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

UBet!

@victorcharlie7491 11 месяцев назад

Thanks bro great video.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Glad you liked it

@Trent28888 11 месяцев назад

I wonder if ya put it in LSB and then connect it but u also have AGC turned off

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

I wonder, but not enough to get it back out of the box ;-)

@GM5DDX 11 месяцев назад

I love mine and works like a dream

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

That's awesome! I see a lot of potential in this product. I'm not sure if they will bring it back or not. Maybe an upgraded model?

@N4BUT 11 месяцев назад

Is that the GSOC I sent you? Yay!!

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Yessir! Finally got a window to film it! Thank you!

@N4BUT 11 месяцев назад

@@temporarilyoffline I knew you’d see the same issues I had with it. It makes for an interesting review. It’s also bringing up some interesting comments. All I wish xeigu would address. It could have been a great product if only it got some dev attention.

@davidw3gzs55 11 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Thank you too!

@dan_in_sd 11 месяцев назад

As always... great video TO. ;)

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@d3w4yn3 11 месяцев назад

Seemed like a good idea, I like the large display and touch screen, but the issues you ID'd outweigh and sort of defeat the benefits of the display.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Right! Like most things xiegu, a good idea, but rough around the edges.

@stephenwalters9891 11 месяцев назад

Xiegu GSOC after latest v1.3 firmware update is mentioned on the SWLING blog page.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Nice!

@ManuelPinner 11 месяцев назад

That Why I only by Japanese Brands Radios because of Their High Quality Standards! Unlike the Chinese Brands!

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Exactly

@Grumpy_Cyborg 11 месяцев назад

I only buy Japanese 705 for the same reason. But I just bought a X6100 yeah its got faults birdies runs hot an imperfect interface..... but its almost a disposable bargin. If they leave the backdoor open (which they have with the X6100) then its potential with a community of hackers cant be overstated. But this product is flawed from the start. So OK its a big miss. But at least they are being innovative unlike some Japanese companies who gave us the FT818 at a time when it was exact what wasn't wanted. Oh that got dropped as well. I try and keep an open mind not get blinkered. Though I have a Japanese radio, television, car, expensive watch and expensive telescope. I try.

@DonDegidio 11 месяцев назад

Hi Steve, Well, at least you tried. 🙂I think it was Josh who did a review when it was first released and said "It was not ready for prime time". Stay safe. 73 WJ3U

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

A lot of the initial reviews weren't good.

@JReed305 11 месяцев назад

Seems to be a discontinued product. I was paying attention to it when they released it and it definitely had some growing pains (just like most Xiegu stuff) but all the negative reviews at the time seemed to have squashed their will to try to make it work. Probably didn't help that it cost more than the G90 it is meant to support, so sales were extremely slow. The idea was cool, but like you said pair it with a RTLSDR dongle and CAT control for a lot cheaper and you get similar function.

@mrbyamile6973 11 месяцев назад

The cost was the biggest barrier. If I wanted an expensive radio with bigger display I'd buy an IC 7300 (which is what I did) but I do have a G90 also and would like a bigger display. For maybe $200 I would likely have jumped on it.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

So close...

@alrubio4401 11 месяцев назад

My G90 would not work on WJST until the mode selected was not on USB but on U__D for the audio to be correct.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Right!

@MrDwadi84 11 месяцев назад

Always FW issues, even X6100 isn't perfect due to slow official FW support, Xiegu should release FW source code, maybe then this GSOC device can do more. It is better to use IQ out with sound card input to have 196khz waterfall using HDSDR and cat control via USB.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Totally Agree!

@HOAHamRadio 11 месяцев назад

I've always wondered, now I know, now I can avoid this. Always appreciate what you do, thanks.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

This is why we're here - to call it like it is.

@TheGeekiestGuy 11 месяцев назад

I hate those button cell batteries. Any and every chance I get, I always remove them and use a much larger cell. As long as you have room you can make a 5 year battery into a 20 year battery. Thanks for the breakdown of duders teardown, brother. Good to see the guts of another oddball unit. 🤙🏽

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

I love looking inside these things!

@TheGeekiestGuy 11 месяцев назад

@temporarilyoffline I gotta get my mans on another oscilloscope and a frequency analyzer. I have ananovna on the way for some antenna ideas, but I wanna tear down more gear. I always find the weirdest crap in stuff.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

@@TheGeekiestGuy that's awesome. Take a look at the tinysa too

@TheGeekiestGuy 11 месяцев назад

@temporarilyoffline damn. Now that I see that, I need one in my life. 😆 I gotta save all my pennies and pump out some content. I ordered a digirig with the nanovna, and I have a couple of ideas kicking around in my head. If I come up with something that might end up noteworthy, I'll hit you up.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

@@TheGeekiestGuy I subbed, I'll be watching.

@beemcbike 11 месяцев назад

For my eyes I just wanted a bigger display. Glad it was out of stock. Is there any other possibility of a bigger display? 👍🇨🇭

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Run the IQ cable to an RTL-SDR or a good sound card and use your 42" flat screen! I'll have to make a video on this.

@beemcbike 11 месяцев назад

@@temporarilyoffline Yes please. That would work for home use, but how about portable… 73 de HB3XBL 👍🇨🇭

@G6MDX-Dai 11 месяцев назад

@@temporarilyofflineeagerly awaiting *that* video!

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

@@beemcbike Same thing, just use a smaller screen - even a 7" screen is bigger than the 3" screen in the radio.

@027MC7 9 месяцев назад

@@temporarilyoffline I too would love to see that video. That small screen is the only thing keeping me from getting a G90.

@mdwestlund1 11 месяцев назад

Yep read the manual plug in the if lead.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Manual?

@robc3863 11 месяцев назад

Hi, would you be interested in reviewing our new Spectrum for the G90?

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

I would, please email me for more info. Temporarilyoffline@gmail.com thanks!

@bassmanjr100 11 месяцев назад

I'm beginning to think hams should tell the main manufacturers to pound sand and work up from their own kits.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

That was always an option

@flipster7285 8 месяцев назад

Its a shame that xiegu seems to not learn from their successes and failures. I have a G90, absolutely love it. Fantastic little radio for portable/SOTA/POTA use. It is SIMPLE and it works. But in stead of building on that, the newer models seem to be all about trying to cram the bells and whistles and "nice to haves" into smaller packages and ending up with "so-so" products in stead of a product that sells out at least once a month.

@temporarilyoffline 8 месяцев назад

Its not just Xiegu - all makers are making products that are sometimes a dozen or so rungs down on the ladder from our expectations/desires... We still buy them because we really have no choice and we still want to play.

@rst5nn 11 месяцев назад

IMHO, GSOC is the most unsuccessful or failed product.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

I think xiegu learned a lot making it, but it probably shouldn't have never been released to the public - or only as a teaser to create a stir.

@rst5nn 11 месяцев назад

@@temporarilyoffline Yes, discussing about this with Oleg R1CBU (dev custom firmware for x6100), he confirmed that internally x6100 is combination of gsoc & G90 with modification of finals (AMP)

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

@@rst5nn Yeah, the early X6100 firmware had bluetooth disabled, but halfway configured and we did some hacking on it. The display name of the X6100's BT device was "GSOC-BT" or something similar. There is a lineage there for sure.

@hamradiobasics 7 месяцев назад

Xiego had a great idea here but once again failed with the execution. Seems to be a repeating pattern with them ?

@temporarilyoffline 7 месяцев назад

If only they knew someone they could call...

@user-zk2yd6xm8s 11 месяцев назад

Ouch

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Yes

@KM4OOS 11 месяцев назад

that's so weird, I want one lol

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

I coulda been something.

@phillyedhrj 11 месяцев назад

Sounds like they need to revamp their UAT process before releasing.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

I'm available

@tgrossner 11 месяцев назад

Wow, glad I never invested in the GSOC.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Right!

@AD6DMDennis 11 месяцев назад

Feels like the early revision sBitx.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

But the sBitx worked...

@kerbsidemotors9249 5 месяцев назад

Gsoc runs doom, debian and possibly Armbian. So much potential and x6100 got more love

@temporarilyoffline 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, they didn't even make it work with other radios. Very weird.

@loraz0 11 месяцев назад

Love my G90, but glad I stayed away from this piece of poo. I would rather spend my money on the X6100 or the 5100.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

The 5100 is one of the better radios they have made. It's still on my list.

@kb1qzh 11 месяцев назад

I was really hoping this would take off and would actually be universal. That price ruins it

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

That price is killer!

@n5pa 11 месяцев назад

TO: Looks like an empty Rabbit Hole!

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Comin up short!

@K3JRZOnTheAir 11 месяцев назад

I wanted to like the GSOC, but after the initial release and maybe one firmware update, I was disappointed in several items that I thought could have been done better or corrected from the start. I moved on and don’t regret my decision to have myself some money and not purchase the GSOC.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Agreed

@moozoowizard 11 месяцев назад

I wish the G90 base unit was IP67 and had an open sourced ethernet connection to the head unit. With a Xiegu supported PC driver that supported a virtual IO audio adaptor and a cat control com port.... But then dreaming . Or go one step further with wifi and a android tablet or phone app I know if I was making an open source G90 I'd do those. With the gsoc they prove to themselves that there isn't a commercial market for it. But I know anyone adding ethernet and IP67 is going to add $5000-$10000 to the price for no good reason.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Right, good thoughts

@mdwestlund1 11 месяцев назад

I've been a ham since 1967

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Excellent!

@mikesmithg0rfd356 11 месяцев назад

you did not connect the iq up

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

I did not get a manual with it. (I could have looked it up) My assumption was that the G90 head can work with just the 9pin cable, so this device should also. I was seeing very light signals on the waterfall too.

@hwntwww 11 месяцев назад

your point is

@stahpit1971 11 месяцев назад

sharp

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Sorry you missed it.

@KK6USYHamRadioAdventures 11 месяцев назад

Glad I didn't get one of those lol.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Right!

@mdwestlund1 11 месяцев назад

Plug in Iq cable.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Check the comments, that works for some people and isn't needed for others.

@willieb6529 11 месяцев назад

i dumped all my xiegu rigs after getting burned on the gsoc (was one of the first to get one)... never again will i give my money to xiegu as a beta tester... terrible company

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

I'm not usually an early adopter for that reason. Good call!

@thebnbaldwin 11 месяцев назад

Talk about missing the mark! Wow. Pretty dumb but, "Chyna!".

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Right - I don't think I've seen a positive review of this yet.

@brianhendrix 7 месяцев назад

Just. Do. Not. Buy. It. Sent mine back. It would not do the most important thing needed -- TRANSMIT! Support was good on return but useless on troubleshooting.

@temporarilyoffline 7 месяцев назад

Brian is correct!

@101jumpit 11 месяцев назад

My GSOC works perfectly.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Do you have the IQ cable connected? That appears to be something I missed.

@101jumpit 11 месяцев назад

@@temporarilyoffline No i didn't.I was using USB voice though not digital :)

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

@@101jumpit voice here too - I'm getting heat for not plugging in the IQ cable. Sounds like it works either way.

@truckinguy92 11 месяцев назад

Surprise, surprise! It’s cheap Chinese junk and it doesn’t work. This video just reinforces my position on these things.

@bassmanjr100 11 месяцев назад

I'm not saying I disagree, but most components in every radio are probably built in China. ICOM, Yaesu, you name the company. China manufacturers 90% of PC, 75% of solar panels, 70% of phones, 50% of pork, on and on. Western markets have made manufacturing ridiculously expensive with overbearing regulations and taxes.

@truckinguy92 11 месяцев назад

@@bassmanjr100 yes I know that, but Icom & Yaesu use better top tier components whereas the likes of those other companies use bottom tier components. The cheap radios are missing important filtering that makes them barn door receivers and splatter boxes.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

They are on a path to take over the world...

@truckinguy92 11 месяцев назад

@@temporarilyoffline 😂

@ward5821 3 месяца назад

Turn it off and back on....

@temporarilyoffline 3 месяца назад

This is a universal constant

@ward5821 3 месяца назад

My did it once, and that is how I fixed it. So "just saying".@@temporarilyoffline

@M0MBN 12 дней назад

that gsoc is a pile of garbage

@temporarilyoffline 12 дней назад

Agreed!

@palindromic7873 10 дней назад

If you're to have any credibility on these reviews then you should at least know what you're doing. Otherwise it's just another opinion among dozens of others.

@temporarilyoffline 10 дней назад

If you're to have any credibility in comments, you either need to be more specific in a mature manner, or at least understand the message of the video before commenting. Looks like you're having trouble with that.

@ChuckBigbie 11 месяцев назад

I regret buying this! There is a need to update and fix may issues, especially the birdies and interference. I will not long purchase a Xiegu product because they just abandonded us on this. N5ANY

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

If this was my first, it would be my last.

@KB0OTY 11 месяцев назад

I'm so glad I didn't buy one of those.

@temporarilyoffline 11 месяцев назад

Me too!

@ronaldzuccala-pv8tu 3 месяца назад

Hello.As an early adopter this thing never worked for me. And dont forget it was delayed a year to begin with .Sorry but a piece of . I always enjoy your vids. Except when you tried to compare the x6100 to the icom 705 you did yourself a disservice frankly. Ron. Z.WA3090SWL.

@temporarilyoffline 3 месяца назад

Thanks for watching, if I recall, the 705/6100 comparison was done before the product was available based off of "news"... They are much different rigs of course and I find myself using them both at different times for their individual strengths.