Pacing issue is probably because they rewrote a lot of it after CBT 2 and the thing they didn't change clash with the new stuff... but I'm sure next story in future update going to be pacing right
We're still in early stage of the story, like an INTRO. Why does everyone already expect a complete story. Do side quests. Some side quests are very good, like "The Eternal Concert". If you're skipping side quests, then it's your loss. You just wasted what could've been an entire patch of good stories.
The side quests are also part of the story especilly the "exploration quests" i think they are called that focus on an area of the map and it's environement. And of course the character quests.
On one hand, I'm glad that kurogames listens to their community but on the other hand, I also want them to have a strong stance. If it's technical matters, I think listening to the community is fine but for character design or story, I think they should have more confidence in that regard. They are very capable of creating great character designs and stories. I want to see what they can present without having to micromanage it.
I thought from the start that the story was interesting and fun. Like you said I totally agree that Scar's quest is the moment the story really picks up, which I believe really isn't that far at all... ?? Not sure why people are making such a fuss about the story being awful when only an hour worth of story is slow due to exposition and it being the tutorial essentially. Like... idk. Seems like bad criticism. And after that the story has been great so far. To me it's on the level of HSR if I had to compare, I've been enjoying it in a similar way that I enjoyed HSR on release.
Exactly! I expected very slow pacing but it's not that slow. I also enjoyed every piece of it even the yap fest because it's engaging due to different dialogue replies. I only have a few pacing issues on certain acts and EN voice direction. Meeting Scar is definitely when it ramps up, and that's within a few hours from the start. Overall, I enjoyed it. People doomposting it feels like they only based their judgement on the tutotial.
I got to scars quest before union level 10 and only after i got there I heard "ohhhh noooooo pacing issues..." It wasn't even that bad, it was like... yk the PROLOGUE..?.?? 💀
Thank God I'm not the only people have such low attention spans nowadays that if a story makes any attempt to introduce you into the world that shit has to be fast and super interesting or people will immediately call yap and dialogue bloat it's insane
The massive info dump using in world terms people who didn’t follow the game’s development wouldn’t understand wasn’t the best idea, but the final 2 acts were a very, very nice shift like you said. The final fight was also bad ass and what I expect from Kuro. While I hope writing overall picks up quicker than it did in PGR with Luna’s chapter hopefully they stick to mainly Act 6’s pacing and presentation or better for future main story installments. Even if writing isn’t up to modern PGR yet, an interactive and fast paced story can go a long way to keep me interested. Having a story that compliments the fast paced combat and movement of WuWa is another way to think about it. I’ll continue to prepare for a future Soliv level of a story chapter hopefully. I do hope 1.1 and forward they hit up vanguard for a 3-6 min track each patch like PGR because we still need some absolute bangers. 1.1 has to compete with Narwhal as far as I’m concerned which I don’t think can be matched, but hopefully they cook. I do like the variety of genres they hit, but nothing stands out just yet.
Theres is something about Scar's dialogues where theyre just so interesting to read/listen to. Aalto was also somewhat interesting but sometimes theres just too many jargons that its hard to digest. Yangyang, Chixia and Jinshi are sadly yapping exposition machines that i i cant stand to listen to.
The pacing of act 5 is great. But for me act 6 still have some pacing issue. Like when you meet Jiyan he said there's no time to explain let's get to the point. But then start explaining things that doesn't seemed that urgent. And the scene which let Rover choose how they organize the attack feels unecessary because you can only choose the right answer anyway. I think it will be better to just let Jiyan organize it since we're in a urgent situation and also show people Jiyan is also very capable in organizing the troop.
In other platforms, I stated that adding more PGR features in the game will differentiate itself from other gacha games such as: - More abandoned industrial complex (like PGR or Nier Automata). - MC outfit will change overtime like how Lucia changed constructs in the main story. - Motorcycle train chase, there's an echo that rides motorcycle. - Echo stat selector like in PGR, you can choose a stat for a memory. Because I can see this game dying, if they did not reduce the genshin factors. What do you think?
Yeah i agree, the pacing of the story is all over the place. There were some good parts, but alittle too much bad parts. I understand if people drop the game because of it, but i think its a bit of a premature action.
honestly, am not playing wuwa for the story but its an excellent game. the final battle felt like an epic anime fight and as a fan of fog hill of five elements damn, Jiyan is awesome. i wish i could pull for him. this game is truly epic. u have also earned my sub fpr not comparing it to genshin. these games are not supposed to walk on each others toes but give gacha gamers a good time
Yangyang “im gonna sacrifice myself to hold these guys back 😭” Me:”shut up and go away already, you’re annoying” On a serious note though, there’s too much exposition, they need to let people guess, give the audience a chance to be curious. The voice acting is subpar in a lot of places, but I partially suspect that the bad writing takes some of that blame. For example, the excess use of Rover, yangyang is super guilty of that, like bro stop calling name, I know you’re talking to me. 🤦♀️ Reminds me of a low budget movie I dropped where two guys were in a car, talking to each other and they used each others names. There’s only two people there, who else is the dude talking too? Why would he use his name except just to inform the audience. People don’t talk that way. Jiyan’s writing isn’t too bad, Taoqi was pretty bad during the war part. Doing some crazy monologue when we’re about to go into battle.
I would like to add to the issues with the VA's is that a lot of them (mostly the females) have sharp S and T sounds in the game. I tried all languages and the English VA's have the sharpest sounding S and T sounds, so there is some bad mixing going on, or the VA are kissing the mic for some reason. There is also some audio desync in some cutscenes. On the story part my brain just turned off with that terrible pacing early on that I was spaming skip, and had a macro autoclicker to spam through the rest of the scenes. Now I am just looking at some YT videos like yours to see what the story was about without all the fillers and bad YAP YAP.
It's not just the talking speed, it's the entire dialogue system. The text fading in slowly, making you wait 5 seconds for a character to finish an animation before you can go to the next piece of dialogue. The whole thing just feels so slow. In a lot of games I will just speed read the dialogue and then move to the next part unless it's a big story moment, but this game forces me to listen to these super slow characters saying the most generic inane stuff.
it’s really annoying how people started criticizing the story 2 days after the release, many didn’t even reach rank 21, but no, you have to assert yourself that the game is terrible.
In my opinion, the story is not engaging indeed for the opening of the game. I love act IV and act VI. BUT they should have start strong at act I, like CBT1 Crownless opening scene. People nowadays have short attention span. While I put Wuwa 1.0 above Genshin 1.0, I think Genshin did better with the whole catching audience retention in the first 10 minutes of the story. Just my opinion.
@@ArsevensXyou are correct. WuWa's beginning is too rushed and bloated with foreign terms, and very little action. But the thing is, people were saying that the entire story is bad, which is a brain-dead take.
@@ArsevensXgenshin was out in the pandemic so all people was i their house and the Game was a Big change SO Even if was Bad You couldn't compare with nothing in that time and wuwa is compares with genshin 😊
@@ArsevensX Yeah, with the way peoples attention spans are nowadays, the story needs to be good from the beginning or else they'll start skipping everything.
Starting from act 7 or 8, WuWa will sound like a Reverse 1999 to anyone using English audio because Kuro has lifted the restrictions on voice actors and allowed them to use British accents. Later on, this will also apply to act 1 - 6.
Honest criticism: 1. i just dont like how we barely got to know the characters in what is traditionally a character building section Chapter 1 ActX-X, Scar and somewhat LingYang being the few where it felt like they were trying. 2. The only real use the characters had was slapping us in the face with constant "worldbuilding", every conversation: heres this new word that you barely know the signifigance of yet and this new word and this new one... characters all just felt like tutorial NPCs.
Yeah, it just felt like they were dumping a bunch of exposition without telling me why I should even care about any of these characters or this world and then forcing me to do dumb fetch quests instead of actually being able to play the game.
front loading all the lore in the beginning of the game is the worst thing they could have done with a new game. I don't care how good they think the lore is, if you throw the silmarillion at my face before I even know what the lord of the rings is, I'm not going to understand or care about any of that shit.
I didn't think the early part of the story was that bad. People expect explosions everywhere all the time non-stop and are disappointed when a story takes its time to set the stage for bigger things. But that's not a story problem. That's a you problem. Turn your hamster brain into an elephant brain and you will instantly get more enjoyment out of many things that previously bored you.
You are not wrong about Act 1-4 being extremely slow and then the insanely fast pace from 5-6. but i liked 5-6 and it looks promising for the future. Also Jiyan companion quest was superb in my opinion. Lingyang was just extremely bad. I liked the Jump and Run part i thought it was a nice touch but oh boy the amount of boring japping...
I think the story itself was pretty alright but the ending was definitely fumbled. It also ended very abruptly and didn’t really explain the ending, and feels very unfinished.
It's not supposed to end for as long as the game is alive. lol It's a live service game. Like Honkai Star Rail, you will get more story per patch update. 😅
Thats just a way of story telling instead of ending the story like Genshin where throughout the quest you run from NPC to NPC, story quest has no real gameplay.
seriously this game has been one of the best experience for me after suffering from "dont care abt feedbacks game company" other game... yeah story is okeish.. and i hope they improve it over time and work on voice acting some more.. besides story and voice acting.. everything eles was perfect for me.. if they do alto type voice acting and right amount of pacing, goofing and serious moments.. i bet even if the story turns out to be avarage i'll still go through it without skipping.. thank god i wasnt the only one who thought yangyang speaks -2x speed.. yet there are some things i loved the most.. people are complaining about some unskippable dialogues but i felt like it was intentional.. like the one which had skip option were completely optional which u could ignor..and the major dialogues ddnt had any skip option and they actually turned out to be important.. now im gonna compare it with that "other" game.. this game has auto play function just like other one.. except u can still skip some dialogues without stopping auto play.. there are no UI sounds between dialogue change.. best part.. now lets just say ur leaning on chair with just keyboard in hand and dont wanna move ur entire body to grab mouse just to select mcs dialogues.. u can use F key to select those.. mc only talks when there aren't any selectable dialogue.. when there are selected once.. mc just stays mute.. which is fine.. qust doesn't feel like visual novel where u speak with one guy for 2 hrs then move to other.. in this game devs kept running around between dialogues and combat.. some dialogues play while in combat or journey.. u dont feel like entire quest is just visual novel.. there are puzzles, traversal and fun combat between dialogue exchanges.. which keeps it fun
I respect Ur opinion but...... Check CBT1 crownless for example and the launch version. they butchered it to the point its all two separate bosses..... from the intro cutscenes to the fight itself and how it progressed................. u really wanna say this version of story of game is good actually its plain af........ just praising everything about the game but really when its not giving it a thumbs up really doesn't make any sense........ the art direction and the BGM both also got butchered for the sake of colorful environments and blinding colors just check the concept arts and early BGM they gave off that unique vibe so different from ur average Genshin environments and now i think launch version is becoming more and more genshin and has lost its artistic identity..... this is coming from a player who has never played genshin but I can still tell how much similar they got....... every thing about this game now is bland Af................. I hope kuro get it all together and give us proper KURO esque experience not another rip -off from hoyo......
Real. I even preferred how Chixia doesnt like you at the start (in CBT1). Hell even the pause menu in Technical test was way cooler than CBT1. I also really hate the gourd it looks ridiculous on most characters. The Crownless in CBT1 was also cooler with how phase1 transitions into phase 2 with a mini battle cutscene. There was so much right in CBT1. The only good change was the intro/outro skills. Honestly the only thing they really finished cooking was the combat, everything else is undercooked.
@@CoFF3e_Man but i did fight dreamless. I dont see how me complaining about the phase transition cutscene being removed is related to crownless being a tutorial boss
@@Pequod_LZ Then you already know those all went to Dreamless and tbh, I likenit that Dreamless should be the wall to climb rather than crownless, the game has the holograms for that...Lorewise, Crownless is just fodder to Dreamless
Wuthering Waves is Genshin Impact but with better combat. People like Rexlent also say the same thing and I agree with him. Just admit it. You're only making it harder for yourself if you refuse to accept that fact.
So far I like the story. I don’t mind listening to the dialogue but the pacing does need help. I am just happy that I can skip some of the smaller side quest dialogue. Thats the reason I quit Genshin.
The problem is that while the second half of the story is okay I didnt want to go on a fetch quest for a candy and a mangosteen. I mostly played the game for combat and didn’t really care about the story
I mean, it explained the reason why Jihsi gave those context clues? As a person who loves stories, the pacing was bad in the early acts, then it's slowly picking up on Act 3-6
Yeah, idk why they chose to start the game out with a bunch of random fetch quests with terrible dialogue. It's a horrible intro to a game mostly focused around actually fighting stuff.
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 apparently the audio quality is also very low. Likely due to not being recorded with proper microphones . Which means they used images. A lot of English audio lines are also cut off midway. I switched over to Korean. Which was much better. Still, it’s not a very good look
