This event demonstrated how terrible the US was when it came to fighting in forest like combat, esspecially in Germany. Hurtgen Forest was America's meat grinder. The Germans knew what they were doing. Esspecially with those 88's packed up in the thick forest, safe from Artillery, Aircraft and Tanks, there was no way the Allies were getting through this.
@@josh.palaci3276 You have to take into account that attacking tactics used in WW1 were no good when it came to trench warfare unless you had huge amounts of men. The Americans stepped in when no one else would and captured that forest
@@gidmichigan1765 I would say they did, their commanding officer constantly had land mines spread throughout the area, and the forest were so thick it would be close to impossible to encircle the Germans, given their position and the circumstance, i would say so.
Not all minefields are mapped. When running into one during an attack, you can't just stop and report "Yeah there were mines there boss, we gave up" . At least in WW2 you couldn't.
@General arollite its either run through a minefield or face the commanding officer's gun, not one step back, they had no choice in the matter, that's order 227 for you
Hurtgen forest a training ground for new troops on both sides. The US Army was getting new troops who did not see combat so they were thrown into the Hurtgen Forest then when their division was shot up it was pulled out to be refitted and another one thrown in this meat grinder. They quickly learned or they ended up dead or wounded.
Mainly, because the US supplied Britain and the UK with so much oil, tanks, jeeps, coal, food, water, planes, and naval warships, that the Russians and UK were ABLE to degrade German capacity enough so that when the Americans finally had mustered enough troops, the blow would be decisive. And each one was. North Africa was a complete success. Italy was tough fought, but tied up 2 dozen panzer divisions away from the Eastern Front. The Battle of the Atlantic was won, and the French Resistance established. Then, DDay came, and by then the war had been lost, even though the Nazis refused to understand that.
You know, my great grand dad fought in both the Eastern front and against the British and Americans and I know from him that the way German infantry is portrayed in movies and shows is bs. They weren't like fuckin stormtroopers lol. They shredded the Americans and fought with just as much grit, determination, and tactical skill. They just didn't have the resources or manpower left to hold whatever they won. It was either hold, or hold until you have to retreat. He said they all knew by the time Russians pushed them back to Poland and the Americans made it to the German border that the end was near, but he said him and his boys were damned if they weren't gonna make them bleed for every CM they scraped into German land. Anyway, that's why I hate these movies showing the American heroes mowing down Germans like they're stormtroopers. The Japanese did that.
@@WanderingLibertarian are you proud for the usa and how your country was built? past of having black slaves?! Always wondering how a country like the usa think they can judge about any other country. Yes there is a very dark part in the german history, for sure! But maybe you learn to begin by your own mistakes that would mean a lot!
@@felixmalotka6680 History is full of grey areas. It’s great to acknowledge them and be proud of a countries accomplishments. But to glorify acts of violence? Its as if I were to be proud of the Indian Removal Act by President Jackson. There’s a very fine line between patriotism and the glorification of an outright evil past
anyone know from what movie the last bit starting at 5:00 is from? looks way more interesting with them ruskies charging that fortress while the germans hammer them with screaming meemies (nebelwerfer artilery) and machine guns
It looks like it's from one of the liberation movies, I cannot say for sure thought since I have only seen the first one. Historically speaking it is probably the second of third films since the last two are about the battle of Berlin and the first one is about Kursk and does not have this scene.
Yeah, fighting in a forest, ESPECIALLY when Flak Cannons involved, might be one of the worst terrains to fight in. Any tree that gets hit explodes into wooden shrapnel, not to mention the actual shrapnel from the cannons, and the trees falling over onto you.
I was recently discussing the torpedo aspect of this with a friend. Had the Germans managed to do that where the invasion actually took place, most ships would have been sunk.
@@user-jn4qp3kn6c 😂😂 Bro the united states fought in two fronts the Pacific theater and European theater In 1942 we fought in Africa and in 1943 we fought in Italy And last I checked Stalin keep reminding Roosevelt and Churchill that they promised him they would open another front in the west
And the USSR lost like 30 million people in WW2 I they lost 6 or 7 million soldiers in WW2 The US lost over 400k soldiers and The UK lost 383k soldiers in WW2 With out the US in WW2 anything could have happened the AXIS could have won WW2
