I for one am glad that the movie has been retconned to take place in an alternate timeline than this movie, cause I really did not like the nihilistic feel of that film, when we just had such a high note at the end of DoFP.
@@habibislam1904 You're supposed to believe that Magneto can't do anything, because the guards all use the metal-free weapons specifically designed for him. That said, someone chose to set the scene in a kitchen clearly filled with sharp metal objects. So no, Magneto wasn't about to kill them, but yes, he absolutely could/should have been able to if the writers had thought it through.
@@venividiarrevederci4461 Erik was absolutely about to kill them all. That's why everything metal in the room started shaking and then suddenly rose up into the air. Also why Charles put his hand onto Erik's chest, trying to stop him the moment before the slo mo started. The writers did think it through.
I don't know if it would be considered an error, but the timeline is set in January 1973. Quicksilver is wearing a Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon, shirt. DSOTM didn't release until March 1973. It's unlikely that QS would have had a shirt.
@@ducklaserrogue cut basically extended cut that changed the plot from kitty to rogue. Theater's version is kitty from beginning to last. Theater's cut is 2 hours 30 minutes while rogue cut that only released on bluray and DVD is 2 hours 45 minutes. It's polished side character more
Girls, do yourselves a HUGE favor and completely forget that you saw Stryker turn into Mystique at the end. It's one of the dumbest and biggest plot holes in the entire series. In fact, it wasn't even in the script. It was added in at the very last minute because the studio told them to add that twist in. But not only does that twist go absolutely nowhere, but it makes zero sense as to why it would even be Mystique in the first place. Think about it. In a regular timeline, Stryker HAS to eventually meet Logan so he can infuse him with adamantium. So it makes perfect sense for him to pull Logan from the river. But up until that point, Jennifer Lawrence's young Mystique has never even met Logan! They never interacted throughout the entire movie. So why would she save this random guy from the river and show interest in him when she has no idea who he even is?
I don't know if they intentionally meant to imply that it's now Mystique (disguised as Striker) who infuses the adamantium into Wolverine, but you're right that it doesn't make much sense. What would be her reason for doing so?
@@w1975b Yes but even then, you're talking about a matter of mere seconds when she was being otherwise distracted all at once by Trask, Eric, Charles, tasers going off, guns getting shot, and jumping out the window. With all that going on, I doubt she had any amount of time to pay attention to some random guy who walked in the room or thought he was of any significance.
@@splinterz5744 Why would she do anything Eric asked? It's more likely she saw something in Trask's files regarding Weapon X, since he was working with Stryker. So, at minimum, she'd try to intercept Logan to screw Stryker over. And he could still get his hands on Logan, just later than he did before time changed. Remember, Logan volunteered.
Thank you, I'm glad someone typed all that so I didn't have to. If the movie hadn't been quite as good as it is, that would have been a film-breaking moment.
Kind of a miracle this movie turned out as great as it did. So many moving pieces, characters, timelines, concepts, powers...it could've easily been way overcomplicated. But it all works. Bryan Singer may be a bit shady in his personal life, but he's a really solid director. Very talented. Maybe I'm a bit of a fud dud but I kind of like this (over?)serious tone for the X-Men movies. Glad that Deadpool was left mostly separate from this world. Props to the cast...they nailed it. Stewart and McKellen are awesome together. Can tell they're actually friends in life. McAvoy was perfect also.
A couple of things don't work, such as Kitty never needing a bathroom break, especially in the theatrical cut. And Mystique going home w/o Charles noticing, as well as Beast irresponsibly not alerting them of her presence.
Best closure for the X-Men as a whole team. Sure Logan would go on to star in several movies after this but for the X-men this was the perfect send off. I was so upset that Rogue was only in it at end until I heard of the uncut version she still had only a few scenes but it added to the plot and depth to what she and Logan were to one another. As someone who was raised on the trilogy this was the perfect ending for the X-men.
@@James_Ford4815logan in comic supposed to be what if storyline which is not canon. But James mangold is one of those director who hates canon. So he chose Old Man Logan to ended his trilogy. Fox given him 100% control and it's a good movie although most of X-Men fans hate it
@@Neogeta85 the people that do like its are because 1: Both Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart give great performances in it, 2: it as its own movie is far better then anything else after Days of Future Past, 3: R Rating
Every time you guys mention Origins you're actually thinking of First Class. Origins is the Wolverine solo movie with his brother. The past scenes in this movie are set after the ending of First Class where Magneto leaves with Mystique and a freshly paralysed Xavier opens the school.
The guy making the pyramid at the end of the movie is Apocalypse - the first mutant to ever exist. He's one of the most powerful mutants in the X-Men universe.
In the movies, he's the first but in comics, He actually isn't the first mutant...at least anymore , not since 1983. The oldest is Selene, she's a psychic vampire and 17,000 years old. She was born after the ocean swallowed Atlantis and existed in the Hyborean age, which if you know Conan the barbarian, is the time period he existed at, at least in some part of that age. Look her up on Google, he backstory is WILD!
Day's of Future's Past was essentially a soft reboot. It erased, with the exception of First Class, all the events of the movies that came before it. X-Men Origins: Wolverine, the original X-Men trilogy, and The Wolverine were all erased from the timeline. In the new timeline only First Class, Days of Future Past (the 1973 events), Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Logan, New Mutants and both Deadpool movies exist. That's why Cyclops and Jean are alive when Logan wakes up in the new future because X3 never happened in the new timeline.
That's interesting. I always thought of First Class as a soft reboot, since it change so much from the first trilogy. The whole timeline of Magneto's and Professor X's friendship. The creation of Cerebro. Things like that.
54:01 The easiest way to explain what has happened with the timeline is this: Since Raven did not kill Trask, everything after that point in 1973 has been changed.
One of the best films in the series! It made $770 million dollars against a $200 million dollar budget. It was the first X MEN film to be nominated for an Oscar for Best Visual Effects. The second was LOGAN which was nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay.
"It made $770 million dollars against a $200 million dollar budget." It was $746 mil and that is not as much profit as it seems if any. With promotion that pushes past $250 mil, Studio only gets about 50% of US box office and 25% everywhere else. $234 mil US so studio made maybe $117 mil. International $512 mil so studio made $128 mil. So studio take $245 mil. So if anything it lost money at the box office
While LOGAN is my favorite overall film of the series, DoFP is my favorite X-MEN team movie. It's just so creative in how it blends characters from the different timelines together; you can tell it was made for the longtime fans of the movies who had been around for 14 years at that point.
This is THE best franchise reset ever… they did it so well and it all made sense and it all worked extremely great way better than any other franchise reset
At the end, why didn't Charles just take over Trask's mind and put an end to the whole sentinel threat? They were right there in the same area and Charles clearly had his powers as was evident when he was trying to talk Mystique out of going ahead with the plan. And it's not like Trask was wearing Magneto's helmet...plot armour I suppose.
@@akbarshabazz-jenkins7847 I think because even if he took over trask mystique might still shoot and if he took over mystique trask and others might shoot plus he needed mystique to make the decision to change the future and for them to see her surrender… I’m just guessing I honestly don’t know
@@briankarcher8338 No lol a few examples are when Magneto told him to "freeze" the prison guards but he couldn't because of that serum stuff and when he was using regular civilians to try and talk Mystique out of killing Trask
@@Letssee92 My original reply wasn't really clear enough because I was limiting it to the end, but in all actuality he could've done this at any point after he got his powers back which means while he was wasting time trying to talk Mystique out of killing him, he could've hijacked Trask's mind before Mystique even had the chance to kill him. Once Logan convinced Charles about the impending doom and that it needed to be stopped, Charles should've been quick to try and regain his powers just to stop Trask. This is one of many problems when you have a mutant as powerful as Charles but then pick and choose when to allow him to use his powers. I love this movie, but it could've been cut in half in terms of run time and we wouldn't have missed a thing. There was also really no need to even include the younger Magneto in the storyline...nothing he did benefited anybody but they needed an excuse to have Quicksilver show us all how awesome he is and then of course the wholesome scene with father and son in the elevator had to happen as well, and to bring him back just to plant the seeds for future conflicts with Charles and the rest of the X-Men.
Some things didn't change. Rogue has her white streak, for instance, which was caused by Magneto's machine in the first movie. So that incident had to still happen.
It was great when this movie came out. Now that Marvel has overdone the multiverse so much and stakes don't matter, everyone comes back, it seems stale in retrospect.
The post-credit scene takes place in the far past. The people were chanting, "En-Sabah-Nur". It means, "The First One". And you could see in the background his Four Horsemen.
will always remember back in the day how exciting it was to see the first DOFP trailer; from that point on was literally counting down the days until its release…still the definitive X-Men movie for me
Okay, re. the X-Men 3 end credits scene and why the resurrected Charles Xavier looks the same. It’s my understanding that the man whose body Prof X transferred his mind into when Jean ‘sploded him was none other than his own twin brother. Charles’ power was already active while he was still in the womb and it destroyed his twin’s mind. The twin’s body was still healthy though, and he had been kept alive in a vegetative state since birth. This is why Charles uses this particular example when talking to the ethics class early in the film - it’s his own brother, who is in the care of Moira McTaggert. This is also why he looks and sounds the same after his resurrection. He’s now his own twin. They worked REALLY hard to erase pretty much all of the plot points from X-Men 3 😁
Heard that it was not that he was using his power to look like himself in a new body but that the body in question was his own twin that was born without brain function
The end credit scene features Apocalypse (his real name is "En Saba Nur" which is what the people were chanting). He is the X Men's most fearsome villain.
Absolutely the finest X-Men film so far (in my not-so-humble opinion). The fact that they get nigh-on every character involved certainly doesn't hurt. And the introduction of Evan Peters as Quicksilver is a masterstroke (whip-laaash)...the "Kitchen Scene" featuring "Time In A Bottle" by Jim Croce is an absolute Classic.
@@ericseitzler81 Unless he increased the speed of the song before hand specifically to listen to while using his power because he knows how fast he can go. Probably not actually possible to speed it up that much with the tech at the time, but it's a superhero movie so who cares.
That's Apocalypse and his Four Horsemen at the end. He's one of the X-Men's biggest, most powerful villains. You'll meet him in the next movie. This movie did a reset of the timeline of the first three X-Men movies.
It not only reset the 1st 3 original x-men , it also changes what happened in x-men origin: the wolverine and it deleted The wolverine story , so he doesn't go Japan at all
People often forget in the original comics, Kitty did NOT change the timeline. When she got home again her universe was the same dystopian shithole as when she left it. What she DID accomplish was preventing the same thing from happening in 616.
Honestly this movie is my personal end to the Fox X-Men series, at least for the "team" movies (Logan and the Deadpool movies being more of solo movies for me). Had an appropriate climatic feel to it with the Sentinel threat (they're basically the best Terminators not from a Terminator movie), found a neat way to tell the story of two time periods, had some really emotional moments (old Charles talking to young Charles), and it had a very satisfactory and happy ending.
At the end they were chanting "En Sabah Nur". And that is a Mutant born thousands of years ago in Ancient Egypt, the first Mutant. But yes, the entire timeline started to shift as soon as Wolverine went back. Originally, Magneto was never freed from his prison (though obviously he got out at some point), they never went to Paris to stop Mystique, etc. That doesn't get locked in place until Kitty/Rogue stops the power, or the target dies in the past, as they can no longer influence the future. So the entire first trilogy is now an alternate timeline.
Sadly, the mutant autopsy files Mystique was reading in Trasks office had some of the mutants from the X-Men First Class movie: Azazel (The Teleporting Mutant) and Angel Salvadore (The Mutant girl with wings who could spit acid) . Also deceased from mutant experimentation by Boliver Trask are Emma Frost (Psychic/Diamond skin mutant) and Banshee (Supersonic mutant who could fly with the aid of a wingsuit) they are not seen in the files but are mentioned.
Fun fact- Charles saying "what else explains a bullet miraculously curving through the air" was a sly nod to a different comic book movie that James McAvoy starred in with Angelina Jolie (Wanted).
Days of Future Past was such a unique opportunity. We had 2 fantastic casts, old and new, and they tried to keep continuity in First Class, rather than treating it like a reboot. Plus, we had an excuse to bring Logan into the X-Men 30 years before he was supposed to in the old continuity.
I'm really glad you've watched The Rogue Cut - it's just so much better than the regular version :) And I'm impressed how good you've figured everything out :D Especially, taking all of the never explained plot holes into the account :D
What's most astonishing is that Quicksilver is the son of Magneto and Rogue! That's Canon. Magneto and Rogue developed a relationship when they realized that their similar magnetic powers made Magneto immune to Rogue's absorption abilities. Rogue eventually gave birth to young Charles, aka Quicksilver, whom Magneto named after his friend Charles Xavier.
@@elessartelcontar9415 You're thinking Magnus, not Quicksilver. It also happened in an alternate reality and Magnus was killed off in the second issue. Because it was stupid.
@@elessartelcontar9415 Wait, you're talking about Earth-295 (Age of Apocalypse), Magnus was in Earth-27. Charles in AoA also wasn't Quicksilver though, since Pietro existed in that reality. I stopped paying attention to the comics once I realized how tween drama it was.
Well, not any more. Right now Magneto has 1 surviving child, Polaris (but if I remember well, she was slaughtered during the last Hellfire Gala), while Wanda and Pietro are creations of the High Evolutionary.
Age of ultron sucks. That's movie happened when you give creative freedom to uncreative director. Meanwhile James mangold got 100% full control with Logan and it's a great movie
@@boboboy8189 not only is this reply relevant to nothing in the conversation here, but to also claim that Joss Whedon, creator of television series like Buffy TVS, Firefly, Agents of SHIELD,and Dollhouse, is somehow not creative? The movie isn’t as good as the first Avengers, which he also wrote and directed, but Age of Ultron’s shortcomings can be 95% attributed to the studio’s interference. i’d never support the kind of behavior that he has since been accused of, but your characterization of being somehow “not creative” is disingenuous and patently false
Fyi, the “I’m a princess” girl is Wanda Maximoff, aka The Scarlet Witch. At one point in the XMen’s history, she & Quiksilver were Magneto’s kids. The pair in the MCU, however, have no connection to Magneto as of yet. In this, they are mutants … in the MCU, they are not.
Actually, no. She is Lorna Dane, Peter's half sister Magneto is the father to both but different mothers. When Lorna grows up she becomes Polaris who has electromagnetic powers. Fox never did create their own version of Wanda, although director Bryan Singer confirmed that she did exist and was Peter's twin. They just never showed her.
@@w1975b ... That's a good question. Unfortunately I don't have a good answer for you! This was the only time we ever see her. She is not in any of the other movies as an adult to my knowledge. All I know is when questioned about her Singer says he put her in the movie as an Easter egg for the fans. The "I'm a princess" line was a clue to who she was. There was even a deleted scene where the mother says "go bug your sister" indicating Wanda, but he cut it out.
@@ivanzamarripa9393Hah yeah. All we got afterwards was 2 horrible sequels and Logan/Deadpool that didn't feel that connected to this universe either way.
44:15 Remember when Eric was on the train? He didn't destroy the Sentinels, he used the parts from the tracks to put metal into them so he could control them. 45:45 yes, I knew you'd remember!
If you remember back in X3 the last stand, at the beginning of the movie they were training to fight and Storm got mad at Logan for not being a team player and cut off the robots head and then the simulation ended. Well that was a Sentinel, but comic book accurate. The ones in this movie had a different design.
@@thatperformer3879 true. I especially love the other one they did with the mansion and saving the students. I don't remember what movie it was. I think the next movie maybe.
In the earlier comics peter & Wanda were magnetos children called quicksilver and the scarlett witch plus a younger daughter who had the same powers as him called Polaris
Kitty being able to send someone’s mind back in time is an extension of her phasing power. That was the most explanation I ever saw, and not even in this movie, just articles about it I think It’s never been explained, but I always assumed Magneto used his powers to extend the adamantium still in Wolverine’s body back onto his claws You Cassie would have seen a version of Peter in Avengers 2. Wanda’s brother Quicksilver/Pietro. And you also saw this actor playing the “recast” version of Pietro in WandaVision According to the screenwriter, Jfk’s power may have been a telepathic form of persuasiveness Beast didn’t die to the sentinels. He got dragged out of his house and killed by anti mutant protestors In the theatrical cut, Rogue is only present at the very end in the improved future. Kitty had to hang on with some ice bandaging(?), Bobby still died the same way but in the final battle against the sentinels. Drowning seems to be one of the few ways to kill someone with a healing factor. You can’t heal from drowning. Don’t…don’t pay any mind to Stryker being Mystique. Nothing comes of that The person in the final credit scene was En Sabah Nur with his _Four Horsemen_ in the background. His name translates to “The First One.” It’s not the name he’s generally known by. You’ll learn it. The following movies are presumably the new timeline, but they never reach the end point that we saw here
DOFP is the best movie in the X-Men franchise, almost tied with X2. PS. thanks for watching "the Rogue cut", that's even better than the theatrical version.
That last end credit scene they were chanting 'En Sabah Nur'. Which, those of us who read the comics know is the alternate name for a mutant known as Apocalypse. He's one of the big bad guys that's been around since the 80's.
19:34 Mark! Don't forget! Not counting illusions and disguises and dreams, this character is Peter's first "Marvel" character with the giant dwarf who helps Thor being his second one! 😊
The most astonishing thing is that Quicksilver is the son of Magneto and Rogue! That's canon. Magneto and Rogue developed a relationship when it was realized that their similar magnetic powers made Magneto immune to Rogue's absorption abilities. Rogue eventually gave birth to young Charles, aka Quicksilver, whom Magneto named after his friend Charles Xavier.
@@elessartelcontar9415 No. No he's not. And no it's not. Quicksilver's mother was a woman named Natalya Maximoff. Currently, Magneto has no blood relationship to Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch whatsoever (him being their biological father was itself a retcon). Also, Quicksilver's real name is Pietro, not Charles.
In the cinema when I saw the end credits I immediately screamed "APOCALYPSE!!!!" most of the people didn't get it but a few did looked at me and smiled.
It was pretty much the reaction everyone had to Thanos being revealed in the post credit scene in Avengers; comic book fans knew what was up but the casual fan had no clue what was about to be unleashed.
I appreciate how Mystique puts herself in danger by transforming back to her true form in situations were she almost gets caught just to treat the audience to move screen time with Jennifer Lawrence painted blue!
Fun fact; in the comics, Quicksilver is Scarlet Witch's brother, and Magneto was their father. They appeared as villains in the early X-Men comicsand then became heroes in the Avengers. There was a bit of confusion over whether Fox or Disney owned the movie rights to use their characters in the films (they were known more prolifically as Avengers for most of their history), and in the end, most companies created a version of Quicksilver around the same time.
26:23 It seems that JFK's mutant power manifested as a telepathic form of persuasion. The ability to control minds and persuade people to do things. A form of hypnotic suggestion, which would explain why he was so "charming".
So that body was P. Xavier. Charles' brain dead twin brother. This was never stated on film, but clarified by the writers. I'm surprised i don't see this correction all over the comments, considering how controversial it is.
Days of Future past creates multiple timelines. From here, there's this "Happy Ending" timeline, the First Class timeline (Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix), Legion timeline (along with The Gifted), and the Logan timeline (along with New Mutants). And of course there's the Deadpool timeline.
2014, big superhero movie year. But after introducing Guardians of The Galaxy and awaiting the return of the Avengers in the MCU, Marvel/Fox's Children of The Atom were just getting warmed up. Based on a classic storyline from 1981 that pre-dates The Terminator (believe it or not). The end-credits of The Wolverine (2013) showing the name "Trask" drove people (us fans) nuts because most of us knew who he was, what he would make and where the fate of the universe was going. Bryan Singer (pre-controversy, y'all know why) to direct this 5th movie of the series aka "X4" was unprecedented. Blending the castmembers of old and new became such a blast. Introducing newer characters in both eras to greatly effect history was perfect. As always, the constant tones of the film series endure. Good and evil, prejudice and tolerance, grief and faith, similarity and difference. The hallmarks of the comics, 50 years old at the time, being interpreted as they suppose to be. This Rogue cut (2015) is the complete version of the film. Without a doubt, this was the biggest X-Men ever. It broke several Box office records and became the highest-grossing X-Men film for 2 years, dethroning X3:The Last Stand. From here, the evolution goes into overdrive. You are going to love the next 3 films.
I've never understood why people like the Rogue Cut better than the theatrical version if the Rogue Cut only had a couple of extra scenes that didn't add anything to the main story.
@@passionsquietrage But it fixes the (maybe unnoticeable to many people) plothole as to how the Sentinels can adapt to the mutant-powers. Mystique can't do that. Rogue can, though. Sure, it isn't necessary for the movie except for giving people one more of the original cast and characters. I like it
@@frizzlethecat2084 Why did no one ever consider that Trask's scientists discovered something in Mystique's DNA that she wasn't aware of that allowed them to give the sentinels the ability to replicate powers? Remember, she replicated Logan's claws in the first movie(obviously they weren't adamantium but still). Therefore it is NOT a plothole, nor did it need fixing.
@@passionsquietrage Well, had I watched the not-Rogue-cut in cinemas,, I would have gone with that explanation. Since I didn't watch the non-Rogue-cut in cinemas or anywhere else, I never had to find answers for any perceived plotholes. I find the Rogue-idea interesting and smart. If you like the cinema-version better, that's just as well.
According to the movie..... P. Xavier is the brain dead patient also Charles Xavier's twin brother in which he transfered his mind and soul into. The body we see from now on is that of his brother with the mind and soul of Charles.
Well, not "from now on." Presumably the timeline reset means Phoenix never killed Charles/destroyed his original body, so the Charles we see at the end of the movie and in future installments is the OG.
@@ericseitzler81 In the comics he gained the physical ability to walk once, but his mind refused to acknowledge it, preventing him from being able to walk.
