Xbox Should Not Make A New Console 

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The Xbox naming convention also isn't helping.

I felt like the Series X just came out and we're talking about the next one?!

I remember that weird era at the end of the PS2's life cycle where games would be made for every console on the market. It was crazy to walk into a store and see copies of the same game designed for the PS2, PS3, *and* PS4 along with the 360 and One, Wii, and a stripped down version for the DS which was a little more than a mobile game. There was also this trend to have each version have its own exclusive character or features. One of the Soul Caliber games came out on all three major consoles, and each of them had an exclusive character only for that version: Link for the GameCube, Darth Vader and Yoda for the Xbox, and Heihachi for the PlayStation if I remember correctly. EDIT: Stinger pointed out that it was Spawn for the XBOX version, and Vader/Yoda was a later release.

I feel like the next console should incorporate elements from the 360 days. Make avatars a focus again, have a fully customisable UI, bring back the varying colour schemes, make the console itself feel like THE ultimate console. The 360 had a great balance of AAA (back when they were of higher quality imo) and a large library of indies on the Xbox Live Arcade. Make gaming feel lively again

Honestly, they kind of need to go into a Nintendo route and start innovating again, rather than just making another underpowered pc with crappy UI and zero exclusives Edit 1- MOM GET THE CAMERA Edit 2- for the people who say exclusives are crap, look at the massive success of nintendo, who dont have other buisnesses to get money from

We’re definitely witnessing the end of the PlayStation vs Xbox vs Nintendo status quo

Microsoft needs to make a high powered console that is capable of running Blumpo Remastered

Your forgetting the biggest draw of pc: you can have one powerful station for work and gaming. Which makes the investment worth it for a lot of people, since they likely need a computer for work and school anyway.

They need to innovate again, I see zero reason of getting a console when I can play the same exact games on my PC!

22:40 If MS does this, then every console manufacturer now has their own identity. Nintendo for the hybrid, Sony for traditional, and Microsoft for this quasi-console PC thing.

This video just came out 4 mins ago and already people are putting their opinions in before finishing the video. Classic.

We’re nearly at the end of this generation’s lifespan, and half the annual franchises like CoD are still coming out on last gen. Goes to show how little of a jump these new consoles made and how fewer people are interested this time around.

The issue isn’t the power of the consoles. The issue is development time for AAA games have begun to match the generation lifespans

Gotta love how the doom and gloom for the console market completely ignores Nintendo who are doing better than they ever have before. Yeah, yeah, argument that they aren't directly competing, but the Switch is also clowning on almost every system ever released and might even beat the PS2 for units sold.

Microsoft should release an official Xbox Original/360/One emulator with ROMs that can be legally purchased instead (similar to GOG, but Xbox). Then allow the community create extensions for that emulator. I'll buy that!

Tyler, one thing that could throw a wrench in it all is the fact that Michael Soft may push for more budget cuts for the Xbox division

how do you continue to grow in a finite system?

Imo I feel like having an upgradable Xbox that you can use as both a computer and a console would be cool. Just every year offer different parts that you could use to upgrade the system and have it all streamlined to be easy for normies to use. That way you only release a "new" console every decade or so. A hybrid console, but instead of a Switch like mobile/console hybrid, you'd go on the other end and have a hybrid console and PC that you could use both for if you only wanted one. That's probably what I would do as a designer for the new Xbox.

Okay but does Mondly have an owl that threatens my family if I forget to do a lesson

Honestly once you get a SteamDeck there is no going back unless it's to an older system that isn't supported anymore.

Theyve been doing the "xbox series" thing since the mid to late 2010s Anyway. They should move on from that, its starting to get old. If they want to they can still make an xbox 720.

The more I hear about Xbox the more it makes sense why I heard rumors of them buying Valve/Steam. I feel as opposed to that as I did the moment I heard the rumor, but I understand it a lot more thanks to you and your twin channel Whimsu

A lot of those consoles even the past generation are still incredible expensive in most countries

I'm a Playstation guy, but I seriously want to see Xbox do well. We need more competition in the gaming scene. Microsoft has the resources to go head-to-head with Sony. I still might get the XSX for the backwards compatibility.

Is it finally time to unleash The Xsphere?

I think of the Xbox Portable as something like the Lenovo Legion Go, which is a portable Windows Handdheld using Windows 11, so it is possible and that cost like around $600

Me with my Switch: 😐

Everybody is thinking in the wrong direction. Microsoft should engage in the PC hardware space and start making high efficiency gaming performance PCs. A $500 PC with the performance metrics of the Series X would be a massive success. The Steam Deck is showing that a dedicated gaming PC is an effective low cost into to to a greater hardware and software ecosystem. Microsoft focusing on quality PC design with wide crossover between entertainment and business tools would be a really effective long term business strategy.

Nothing tells me that there is no future for xbox more than MVC collection not being considered for the platform.

Microsoft is terrified that Steam is going to release a steam-deck OS that you can duel boot on your computer “to get more power out of your PC.” If steam releases a gaming OS and adds apps like RU-vid, gmail, twitch, Amazon store, etc, it’d be a serious competitor for Window’s dominance.

I was just having this conversation with my friends about a month ago. I agree. Microsoft's best move is to make it easier to get into the PC market. The big question is can they avoid fucking it up?

Most console gamers play Sony playstation and Nintendo for mobile. Xbox series sx does not do well globally.

For backwards compatibility they should make an xbox emulator for windows. I want an xbox emulator.

Did this guy even watch the Showcase? The PS5 literally has no games. 60% of past-gen console owners haven't jumped ship to current-gen yet. This gen is far from over. Watch this space.

Considering the success of the Steam Deck, Microsoft should probably make a handheld. You would be able to play a lot of Game Pass games on a handheld.

If leaks and rumours around Valves' possible "Steam Machine 2.0" are anything to go off of, then they'll have a pc/console hybrid directly competing with Xbox. When will that happen? I have no idea, but it's more believable than you'd think. The Steam Deck itself is a standalone device with the ability to connect to another instance of Steam. So just replace your Windows PC with a console running SteamOS and now you have a fully standalone ecosystem not reliant on Microsoft. You throw in Steam VR and the Valve Deckard, and you now have a cheaper one-stop shop for a large majority of PC games with a portable companion device in the form of the Steam Deck. Valve can also sell these things at a loss because they're an infinite money maker. The coming years are going to be interesting.

at 16:00 - the reason for me is time. On PC: I need to start a launcher, which starts a launcher, which needs an update, which starts rockstar club GUI, to start the game, to show start menu. Then I can play. I have PC and console, and I currently play on console.

The interesting part about steamdeck is that the majority of games are written for windows, and there are almost none games with native linux support, and probably never be. Because of the difficulties of supporting compatibility with the thousands of linux distributives

Last time I was this early, old Billy's company was an actual computer company.

To note around the 16:50 mark... pc can not just focus on Resolution or framerate, but can focus on both high resolution and high framerate by turning down the graphics. Where as the consoles only really have two options... Resolution, or framerate... As the pc you can choose two out of the three. Good Picture clarity, high framerate, and/or high graphic settings. Where consoles is only choose one of these. Good Picture clarity, or High framerate

If Microsoft Gavin and just fully put windows in the Xbox, I don’t see how that wouldn’t just have people asking “ why should I buy an Xbox when I already have a computer? (Or a PS5 👀)”

Maybe it is a wii u situation and the names of the consoles are so bad and confusing that people give up

A portable Xbox would basically be a modern phone with a built-on Gamesir X2 Xbox brand controller on it, just playing/streaming Gamepass.

I think they need to focus on making Windows functional for computers before they try and make it workable for the Xbox

playstation 5 half way done with its generation with 14 games

Millions of people still hold into their ps4 here at least, in a country of 250 millions, and many still bought one considering now you can get them as low as $200. It is still perfectly usable. Ps5 is 4 times as expensive and doesn't really have anything wow in it. In 5 years maybe (when it become cheaper), the sales would pick up.

I honestly think that adding sterstopic 3D to xbox and PS would help revitalize sales. PS made their own 3D TV, why can't they now? And with the Microsoft big bucks they could probably convince some TV manafracuters to pump out some glasses-free (which solves the convenience problem) affordable displays, maybe even subsidize them. This could actually differaite them from PC's which right now they are just locked down versions of.

Xbox PC / Handheld PC = Valve wins. Most people will set it to launch Steam Big Picture, never buy games on the Xbox store, and only buy games on Steam.

23:57 | I mean, they already have browser-based versions of Word, PowerPoint, Excel, Outlook, Teams (with a webcam), Clipchamp, OneDrive, etc. (presumably to compete with Google Workspaces). This means that the CURRENT Xbox can do spreadsheets, through Edge Browser, using a USB keyboard and mouse. I don't know why you would, outside of major financial issues (the Series S or the One X was, somehow, the cheapest "computer" you could get), but you CAN. I presume the "Portable" will be about the same, in that area.

The only thing I wish they would do is add a PC aspect to the Xbox, like let it run windows 10, access to PC gamepass or something

XBox should just stick to the Kinect. As well all know that's where the big money is.

They would make the Handheld Xbox a controller bundled with the Xbox Series X^2, primarily market that you can stream the console games directly to the handheld in your house and maybe outside via the Xbox Cloud, and not actually tell anybody it works as a fully independent handheld that runs things natively on Windows X.

There is no ps5 for 250 dollars so combined with a gamepass, series s is an unbeatable offer….let sony sell the 600 dollar thingy while half the world is in financial crisis and then lets see….

16:29 Let's be real, that hasn't been true in years. Day 1 patches, installing games you bought physically, updates, etc

They should definitely continue making consoles, PS5 Pro pricing is a proof and warning about that. Competition is good for consumers. If they are going to a new gen console before GTA6 release, they could sell tons of consoles compared to PS5 Pro.

They are almost certainly gonna make a streaming stick, so that you can still play games on your tv conveniently (while actually having a game library unlike Google stadia) And ofc we have already heard whispers of this as project keystone, to play games via the cloud. Having a series P (portable) and a series K (keystone) or whatever they end up calling it, might be their next gen consoles.

What if they're not making a Steamdeck so much as an Xbox Switch? A handheld PC that can plug and play into the TV kills two birds with one stone really. All the benefits of this while still capable of just being the button

The next Xbox should be the intersection of console and PC. Like a stationary, more powerful steam deck.

Xbox focusing on cloud gaming is a good move IMO. For people who have fast internet, only game occasionally, and dont wanna spend lots of money on a powerful console or gaming pc to play the latest games, cloud gaming makes alot of sense. True you wont be able to own any game outright, but the convenience of playing graphically demanding games in an instant without worrying about owning the latest gaming hardware makes up for it

16:19 this is incorrect You can, very easily, set up a pc to be turned on remotely within your home from a controller or a cellphone as well as open in steam big picture mode and control your PC with a controller. I did this for my media PC in my living room as well as connected it to a NAS using nothing but youtube videos and the longest part was the NAS and the whole thing took a like an hour but without the NAS it was closer to 25 or 30 minutes Out of the box? Sure console has the W but these chages are all native and take no technical expertise at all to implement and now u have a console that u dont pay sony or microsoft to play online, a wider variety of games, the ability to upgrade, and ability to always hit high frame rates or higher fidelity

When did he change his name to Knowledge Husk?

you could buy a console for about the same price as a pc locking yourself to a single company and be completely at the whim of whatever bad choices they make all while having a device thats less useful than a computer, or buy a computer for a bit more and have total freedom as well as a useful tool

So i think how video games will eventually end up is through a subscription model. What Sony and Xbox should do is work together to make a console that plays all video games on a subscription model. This way both companies could still make money and developers would have a guaranteed stream of revenue. This could also benefit gamers with access to an entire video game catalog, so instead of purchasing an xbox or playsation they could own one console with access to games for a subscription with multiple tiers. This way you dont spend $500 on a console you never use because you dont like the games and have to buy another console + games. I think this makes the most sense in the future.

I will just say... Xbox provides 3 ways to access their games on release versus playstation 1 direct way on day1 games. So of course sales numbers of the console for playstation will be higher and xbox be lower, just based on that. Both playstation and xbox are struggling to get previous gen console users over to next gen, both having similarly 50% users on last gen I don't think xboz selling nearly 30 million consoles is a disaster nor a failure when you factor in the things I've mentioned. They only had one quarter that their sales were pretty awful. If that continues , that for sure won't look good

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"Sony was promising to sell the PS2 as a Linux computer, which scared Microsoft into making the Xbox" Kind of... but not quite. Microsoft, at least Gates and Ballmer, never wanted to make a game console. Their original vision for the Xbox was as a livingroom PC-like device that primarily acted as a sort of uber-WebTV with basic computer functions and could serve as a living-room extension to Windows Media Center. The Xbox Team, however, went behind their bosses backs and made a video game console. This infuriated Gates, who damned near strangled the entire endeavor in it's crib in what was known as the "Valentines Day Massacre". It wasn't until the Xbox team reminded Bill and Ballmer that Sony was still a grave potential threat that they relinquished and gave their tacit approval. This is also, consequentially, why the Xbox has been the red-headded step child of the Microsoft family for several generations, with many influential investors pushing for Microsoft to spin off Xbox into it's own independent company. It's only recently with Phil Spencer being given a chair at the big table that Microsoft has embraced gaming as a core component of the Windows experience. Though, to be honest, the entire Xbox Division (Bliz/Acti aquisition and all) is still little more than a rounding error to Microsoft's overall income. Also, Sony's entire song and dance about the PS2 being a living-room super computer was just smoke and mirrors in order to reclassify the PS2 as computer hardware rather than consumer electronics in an effort to skirt Europe's import tariffs on luxury goods. They never intended to actually follow through on their promises, releasing only a handful of Linux conversion kits that you had to specifically special order from them. 24 years later, and the only reason Microsoft and Sony are even pretending to duke it out is because Microsoft was jumping at shadows over Sony's attempt to cheat import regulations. Funny that.

The last time I bought a console was a pre owned PS4 in 2022 just so I could play Bloodborne. Now it is a DVD player.

Xbox and Playstation don't have much to offer when Nintendo showed that handheld was the future and Steam doubled down on that

I've had every single sony & I'd jump ship in a heatbeat if someone released a console loudly committed to preserving GAME OWNERSHIP.

no vr, no gyro, no adaptive triggers, no haptics. TWO machines every dev hates. fk deadbox.

Still use my Xbox one (base/ original release model) without any issue. Why would I upgrade to a new Xbox console?

Microsoft should just make the xbox a dedicated windows PC. They should improve Windows 11 or 12 and just make an xbox mode for the OS that allows it to be dedicated to gaming if that is what you are doing. They should also make a handheld like the steamdeck. That should cut their costs enormously. It would also mean you could just buy an xbox game and stick it in your PC (once you get a blu ray player for it) and have it work.

I dislike Xbox, but without them Playstation will start becoming worse and worse since they would have no competition. We can already see them doing this this whole generation already and it's just gonna get worse.

I imagine they bring out the handheld in 2026 at about $599. Then in 2028 they bring out a console similar to the series S: all digital, can play epic and steam. Turning Xbox into a 3rd party publisher with an “all in one box”. They just can’t survive being third place with a traditional console strategy for another generation

May Lord Gaben live for ever

Making a far more advanced console generation in 2028 with enhanced graphics & power is something that Xbox really shouldn't be doing, but yet I do wish that it was actually a good idea to do so! I said *I wish* it was a good idea, I'm not saying that it actually is a good idea, because it clearly isn't.

I honestly think Microsoft is no longer interested in being in the console business. The current Xbox was touted not as being a home console but as being a home entertainment hub, and they slowly shifted away from making emphasis on the physical Xbox to pushing only Xbox Pass. They have alienated the existing fans and have shuttered the very companies they acquired with some of the moves being very bone headed. How do you punish a company for gifting you HiFi Rush? They have no one but themselves to blame for having lost the magic of the Xbox brand that existed during the time of the Xbox 360. Having put all your marbles into cloud gaming seems like a major goof in retrospect. The infrastructure simply doesn't exist yet. It's the same mistake Google Stadia made.

The new console will just be a small form factor Win11 PC, with the xbox app preloaded and a skin over the UI. Mark my words.

You kept talking about 'handheld PCs' and asked whether a handheld device can be considered a console and you somehow missed the elephant in the room: the Nintendo Switch...??? Nintendo fully made the transition from a traditional console maker to this hybrid console/handheld device and it's been the most successful console on the market. More than any of the examples mentioned in this video, I think Microsoft will try to follow in Nintendo's footsteps of winning the so called 'console wars' by opting out of them entirely. The console market as it currently stands, as you correctly said in this video, is simply unfeasible and doesn't have a future. Whether it's mobile gaming, streaming, etc, consoles in their current form simply aren't here to last. Likewise the whole schtick of subsidizing the hardware sales for more peripheral and software sales simply isn't making enough of a difference(compared to the alternatives that is) to satisfy the shareholders. Thus it's indeed very likely that the current console generation will be the last console generation, in the way we know consoles that is. Consoles will adapt to become something new, be it a handheld hybrid ala Nintendo Switch, a streaming device ala Google Stadia(but successful this time), something else entirely or even nothing at all.

20:51 I love how you can just have a picture of a horsehead here and it could be easily recognized as a Bojack Horseman reference.

I think people are finally realising that a console is just a tether at this point. A PC is just better, like, better in all aspects no contest levels of better. The only reason consoles are still a 'thing' is because of exclusive games and since Xbox has none... yeah. It's no wonder they didn't sell.

The 2600+ will win this generation obviously

I think at least at the current time it's all about pushing computing limitations and putting game pass in as many hands as possible. As a consumer, I have a gaming PC, an Xbox series X, a PS4 (no PS5 yet but I love PlayStation) and I do think microsoft has made my gaming easier. Gameapass has made gaming so easy for me in my busy adult life. Even my girlfriend (who has a nintendo switch) has been using gamepass on my old Xbox One to play games because of the ease and cost of browsing and playing games. I understand it isnt forever but while i can i make light of using digital media while I can. I still own some of my fav games physically but you can't deny gamepass isn't one of the most convenient option for a lotta people

@5:08 You act like the Xbox 360 and PS3 did not get mid-gen refreshes. There were at least 2 refreshes, depending on how you count them.

They could make a new xbox that has a 'windows light' OS that lets you install steam, GOG, Epic Games etc but has a controller freindly UI, thier windows 8/windows phone-est live tiles would work great there. You should also be able to just straight up install windows 11, linux, openBSD or whatever too. I'd buy one as a budget gaming machine.

We manage to make a monolithic that runs all Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, and third parties. You sell a game for 60 bucks, the same 300 Million people buy 30 Millions of your game yet again as if the market has not grown at all. AAA Devs should give up even if people buys a thousand dollar phones every year the people that would buy call of duty for 60 bucks every year is set in stone.

that sponsor segment transition was super smooth!

I feel that a lot of gamers these days flock to PC for the mods as well. Several sims, such as FS20, Euro Truck, and ATS have literally THOUSANDS of mods. And don’t get me started on the XXX mods for games like Skyrim or Fallout…..

Hiroshi Yamauchi is laughing out loud in Heaven. He told once in an interview (back in the 2000’s) the following when asked about his opinion on Microsoft entering the console market: “They will fail. They will absolutely fail.” He (Mr. Yamauchi-San) was right. Just like many other subjects back when he was president of Nintendo. The Nostradamus of the video games industry. He will never be forgotten by the company and gamers.

I’ve never met anyone with a steam deck, and I was in an esports club and knew many others from universities from across the US

Could Microsoft buy Valve?

"Pc gaming is complicated" No. Turn on pc. Press steam icon. Press giant green "Play" button. For drivers. Press giant green "Update drivers" button. Done. Seriously... this idea needs to die out.

If they put out a mid gen upgrade with a disc drive and a cheaper price point than the PS5 Pro I’d buy it. Seems like they gave up before conceptualizing such a thing though as nothing has even been leaked let alone announced

7:40 NOOOOO!!!! Because in PlayStation you need to buy each game for $80, and in Xbox you have all the games day one on Game Pass!

Its not a console problem, its a game problem. Recent AAA games are a joke of what they once were.

Pfft i saw this uploaded 38 seconds ago

I also think the Series S power is overblown. The PS4 Pro and Xbox One X blow the launch PS4 and Xbox One out of the water in terms of power; it wasn't an issue then. Developers can make Hogwarts Legacy, Crysis Remastered, DOOM Eternal run on the Switch, but the stronger Series S is a problem? That's like making a game run on a GT 710 and saying the RTX 4080 is a problem because the 4090 is stronger than it.

We need competition I hope Xbox doesnt go away. I do hope they can make better decisions.

here's a suggestion: ignore new games and clear your steam/emulated backlog instead. it'll probably take you as much time as a whole console generation to do it, so you can't say you won't have anything to play. plus, you bought/acquired everything in your backlog because you want to play it, right? RIGHT?