Shame they don't go loud enough. Sold mine because of this. However other than that so far best comms I've tried. 2020 Cardo Bold. Does anyone know if the Black edition goes to a higher volume?
Yammie!! I've had the same issue with Adobe exports. For me, a corrupt file on a hardrive is causing it. A trick I found is to take the file with the bad audio, and paste only the video on top of the file with the good audio. Then export a 2nd time and it'll be fixed
If you goofballs are making money doing this s*** then I want in cuz I'm working 85 hours a week trying to save money while sleeping in my car because I had to give up the apartment three and a half years ago to save money to start a business with a food trailer and I'm tired of being homeless and I'm tired of watching rich people with money play
I daily my R6. I'm old and I still love it. Hearing the complaining about how it's a race bike. Some people want to drive a Pruis and others want a Corvette. Keep your Pruis.
Same thing I get with my RSV4, people ask why? Because I have the money to buy it, I enjoy it, that’s why lol same as my R6, I favor my V4 more, but still very much enjoy the R6, 2 completely different animals
Fair enough. But why is the low end not usable? I'll answer that for you. Because there's nothing there. 🤣 You paid for the top-end, that's it. get over it
Weight is just such a major factor when talking horsepower on motorcycles. Yeah yammie is obviously the true star here but what's the heaviest moto GP rider? I know Pedrosa was like a doll sized human lol.
love my mt07, can cut through curves so good!!!! My buddy had a zxr 10 and wasn't confident enough to hit the corners like I did. but he likes going fast only
I daily my R6 and I never have an issue with my wrist hurting. You shouldn’t rest your weight on the handle bars. I will say after a full day at the Tail of the Dragon with the R6, my neck and shoulders are sore. No matter what anyone says, the R6 wide open throttle screaming is the best sound and feeling EVER! 😄
@@TheLentastic Core strength and squeezing the tank with you legs. Strengthen your core to have less stress on your back. Overall, no matter how strong you are the aggressive seating position will eventually tire you out. It’s just a fact aggressive bikes designed for the track.
Im 50 years old. A motorcycle is an emotional experience, not practical. To me both of you were trying to make an argument based on common sense for the R7. But your emotions, expressions and smiles said R6.
@@mydailycommute5516 Oh man that was too tight, A for ambition though. Luckily I live in an area with comparatively wide lanes. The lady in the Civic sounded like you murd3red her cat 😂
My bro rode and commuted 2 engines, several chains and sprockets and a few sets of wheel bearings into the ground on his 07 R6, finally sold it in his early 50s
i’m gonna be straight up spite doesn’t really know how to ride the r6, whyd he short shift on the 3rd gear rolling race? he still had around 5k to play with smh
@@MrBoybergs having ridden both a vfr800 and a cbr600f4i, I can confirm. The torque on the v4 is so much different than the Supersport I4. On the f4i I don't think I was ever below 10k rpm during spirited riding. On the vfr I was down at 6-7k quite a bit. That f4i was such a beast tho, a complete animal.
...I've never seen straight bars being part of a race prep list. To me it looks like a RICED up MT-07. The MT-07 is what it is, this is trying its best to be not that.
As a R6 owner I can wholeheartedly say I fell inlove with the bike before ever riding it. Sound/looks/etc. after riding a few other bikes, I understand the accolades that each have (esp the R7). I think they’re both badass bikes. Personally I’d own both. I just can’t get passed how the R6 makes me feel. It’s crazy. Lol
100%. Owned 5 gsxr 1000s and an R6 over the last 15 years. R6 was more fun pn the streetbfor sure. You can actually bang through the gears without doing 130mph
I'll totally agree with the R7 being a better street bike. However compairing the R6 to the R7 speed wise and not reving the R6 out which is clear in alot of footage is a little biased. I don't own either however have owned many 600 super sports. As any owner of a 600 knows forget 1 to 10,000 RPM, it's irrelevant. They are called screamers for a reason. I'm on a CP4 1000 now. Older, lazier and can't be arsed to tap dance on the box all day. If you are in the mood nothing beats a 600 ridden angry and with no machanical sympathy. It's a little like someone's children for me now. A 600 is fun to play with but always nice to hand it back.
You guys in the comment section should really learn to watch videos till the end. They switched bikes right after, made a pull from 50 and guess what? R6 pulled of and left the r7 behind.
@@mritititit "They"? Yammie literally has a track-only bike, switches with Spite and pulls away with the R6. This comments just bumb me out seeing how people make claims without even checking 5 extra minutes to see if they switch rides
It’s seems like you guys deliberately race these bikes in a way that reaffirms your “SuperSports are dumb anywhere but the track” standpoint rather than racing them the way they’re designed to be ridden. There’s no way an R7 should ever have taken off from those lights faster than an R6 and looking at the official quarter mile times for those bikes would confirm that. I totally get your point about them not being practical long distance commuters but as a weekend toy to take through some twisties or to the track, they’re great. I also don’t think most people that own SuperSports bikes only own one bike
I think it's generational, those of us that grew up riding bikes from the 80's and 90's learned to enjoy the suffering and get high on the sense of mortality.
I’m sure I’m just repeating what others have said , but the production of these videos have got really REALLY good ! But the fun factor & entertainment remains as brilliant as always ….. the first thing I watch after arriving home from work everyday . Thanks guys & gal !! 🤙🏻
As always, great fun to watch the video but the comparison makes absolutely no sense. It was clear as day right from the beginning when it launched that the R7 doesn't even try to replace the R6. All they have in common is the R in the name. What I don't get is the constant mocking of people riding 600cc bikes on the street (since you yourselves leaned towards the R6 in the end). I myself started on a '03 R6 (though I was already 25, so many moons ago) and switched to a S1000RR recently. Both bikes are way above my skill level in what they can do, but they are one thing: a freakin blast to ride, admittedly from time to time in a not so street legal manner (ayo, german here). And since riding a bike is all about having fun (shocking, I know), why not drop the condescending act and just let people enjoy their time? I mean, some people are picking up groceries in a 911 GT2 and no one seems to care. Sure, still not a good idea to hand a 18 yo the key to a R6 but for the more mature riders out there I say: Get whatever floats your boat. As for the "ouchie but my wrists hurt so much on the R6 after 20 minutes". Sorry Spite, but that's on you. Sure, I'm kinda tired after a 300 km tour (186 in freedom distance units) on my RR, but a happy tired. Like after a good workout.
I think they purposely ignore the fact that many Sportbike riders probbaly choose these bikes for the look. I mean generally speaking Naked bike versions of these Sportbikes are subjectively fugly...but that's just my meh opinion.
i was 16 when i got both my r6's. but i also did perfect in my msf course. now im 17 and just got a 2010 R1. better more aware, more safe rider than half the older guys i know. guess what im trying to get at is take the msf safty course lol.
@@r1kid516 sorry, but your msf course doesn't mean shit (this is me talking as a euopean with our complicated license system). messing around on a parking lot doesn't mean you can ride a bike. still gotta make an effort to learn and practice proper riding technique. I was lucky that my driving instructor was a proper race track pro, so I had a good baseline when I got my license.
Watching this video after riding my 2020 R6 to work, it’s a screaming beast I love it! If you’re taller and have a strong core it’s really not that bad. Love the feeling after a longer ride, you feel like you actually did something… it’s so exciting to ride and an incredible experience every time I get on it.
I'm 6'4" and I dailied my 2006 R6 for 4 years... Was an amazing bike, I sold it and upgraded to an R1. Don't listen to these euro/adventure bike snobs, get whatever bike you want and ride it however you want... (Except beginners, pls dont buy a 600/1000, don't become a statistic lol)
Old comment, but I'm trying to figure out what would be a good first bike for me. And man the way people talk about the ninja 400 or 650, or the R7 makes it really hard to want to get them when I just want to know if they're good for beginners, handle well, sounds good, and have any tech that would make it a good daily. The elitism is bad man
@@neloverg3774 I daily a CBR300 no real issue although the power bump of a Ninja 400 would be perfect just to make highway riding slightly better. Also a bigger windscreen. Go to a dealer and sit on a couple see which one feels right. I think if I could go back I would get a Ninja 400 but Im still happy with my bike
I daily'd my 17 R6 for 4 years. It's a bike that you have to drop a gear or two to pass. I personally find it a lot of fun. Just picked up a 22 chief dark horse with the stage 1 and 2 kits on it and I also love being in 6th gear at any rpm, pulling back the throttle, and feeling like someone has kicked me in the hips lol. The r6 is a more engaging ride. The chief is a more simple but joyful ride. Love em both and won't be getting rid of either!
I like what the R7 represents but I feel like a bigger displacement version of it would fill my riding abilities and experience. I've owned 7 different bikes. The Buell XB12R needed more top end and a sixth gear. The RSV4 was GREAT (a bit overpowered for the street) but cost of ownership was just too much and reliability was a factor. My ZX10R was a preowned "fix one thing, find two more things wrong" nightmare. My GSX-S 1000 is a great bike but lacks excitement/thrill. Throw in a late 90's pre-R6 YZF600, a CBR600RR, and GSX-R 750... I don't know. I just want to design a brand new machine for me but don't know how! Lol
I use my YZF600R everyday, sun on rain, summer or winter, and still love it, very confy bike, for both riders, not too thirsty, and low maintenance required/very reliable. Carbs haven't needed any attention for years. with over 91 000 Miles, still pulls nice as long as you let it heat up a bit. (the forged pistons really need engine to build some heat to be tight and smooth and best compression)
It's an R6 for me all day between these two, no comparison and if I wanted a laid back comfortable commuter I'd go for something different all together....like a Hayabusa.
@@Aberamentho2010 If you take the same rider who has a few years of experience, R6 will always be faster. R7 is just more confidence inspiring for new riders. You're just wrong or assuming this guy is a noob rider.
@@motorcycleartist don’t need it, just like a mustang doesn’t need 500 hp for the road but its that persons money. I don’t care about comfort on a bike. I just rode twisty roads on the weekends. I’m not going to get in debt for comfort and something I will hate a few months into. If I’m going in debt it’s because I love it and gives me a challenge
The quickness comparison is non sense. Yammie is 10x better, and got those launches well done, that is why he could get the r7 roasted. But the other guy couldn't launch the R6 xD
I am watching this trying to figure out what bike to get because they are no longer making the R6 and because of that everyone is taxing them out. You can get a R7 for 9k and I cant find any newer R6 under 12k now..... its frustrating because this makes the R7 seem like a slug and I really dont want to spend 9k on something and need to upgrade in a year
I'm glad I went for the last gen (2020)R6, I daily drive and do long rides on weekends. I'm pretty good with the comfort and riding experience overall. You gotta do the suspension adjustment before starting to complain about the comfort R6 offers.
I have an MT07 and personally love the comfort of the bike. And like they were saying if you want something around town but with sportbike looks then yeah, the R7 wouldn't be a bad option. Ive also wanted to get an MT09 so with the R9 version on the way.... I can have the best of both worlds 😊
R6 will beat out the R7 on the track AND on the street. In performance and in fun. I mean you can just see it from this video alone...but I guess a lot of people don’t like that?
yeah i don't get why people even whant a sport bike if they don't like anything about them. they aint ment for comfort and street glides they are uncomfortable becaus they need to go fast and they should go fast and anyone not going fast is not using theyr bike properly. sure they are free to use it how ever they whant but that don't change the fact that they are wrong for using it like that. it's like how you are free to drink coffe from a flat dinner plate but you are still using the product wrong and nobody should listen to you when you try to get flat plates to change and become deeper just becaus you and your group of coffe drinkers can't get the right tool for the job and rather use a worse tool and change it
I used to own a CB650r and had it tuned. It would walk away no problem from my friends mt07. Didn’t have a lot of torque off the start but once it got to about 8k rpm’s it would really fly
@@huntrusso exactly. When riding those rev happy bikes, most people feel comfortable cruising at 4.5-5k rpm, right? All you need is an autoblipper, then takes a fraction of a second for you to be 6.5k rpm and pulling like a beast. So, it takes mere one foot movement to YEET you past all traffic.... and if you've noticed, we're all quite habitual of downshifting one gear when accelerating (unless you're a cruiser rider like spite). And we motorcyclists aren't pulling trolleys either at 3k rpm either. Therefore, torque curve of CB650R is much more realistic for road & highway use than all the competitors (R7, R6, Trident or RS660). That well thought out design eliminates extra hassle, hence the riding becomes less involving... which is perceived by so many as "lack of character" and "boring".
21:24 Yammie this is one reason the FZ-6 is such a good bike! You have that eargasmic R6 sound, but not the painful street riding ergos. Also the extra torque down low comes in handy!
"Yamaha designed this bike to DESTROY all the other competition." You're goddamn right!! R6 over the R7, always! My dream bike will always be the '08 R6!
I own the 09 r6s last year of that generation, the R6 of previous years was so popular they continued production for another year and dubbed it the “s”.
I love them both, still riding my beginner bike though, a 2020 Yamaha R3 and I love it. Fully tuned pushing 43RWHP, I can launch it faster than most of my inexperienced buddies on older 600’s. I love dumping the race clutch at 9,000RPM, and just ripping off the line as fast as possible. I think a tuned R7 makes more sense for the riding I like to do. Really loved riding my buddies tuned Ninja 650, and a Triumph 675, the torque is really appreciable on the street. The 270 degree crank also sounds amazing as well. I think I’ll ride the R3 for another season, and get some track days under my belt before I get a bigger bike and retiring the R3 to commuting. The R3 is a ridiculously fun, friendly, bike you can push fast in the twisties.
Still waiting, I’ll smoke you off the line. Haha I burnt out my stock clutch practicing launches all summer, now with the race clutch and tune I’m definitely getting sub 5 second 0-60 times.
@@uthantdillon3896 anyone can launch a Ninja 400 or R3 faster then any 600, which takes a second to spool up. Rode with a CBR600RR and an R6 last year on my little dinky Benelli Leoncino 500, on really tight mountain gap roads they could barely keep up, and in ripping through traffic I pulled away hard. 600’s are not easy or very fast to launch, even when done right, power band is to high in the rpm band and the gearing is to tall... They do best when they are spooled up already. We also did a highway stint and I got absolutely left behind… but for spirited riding in northeast mountain roads, the regular street rider won’t be able to outdo an R3 or Ninja 400…
it also doesnt help that papa yams is basically a professional rider. pretty sure he has a professional racing license and metric fuck load of track hours. so obviously hes going to outperform in pretty much every way.
Great video guys. I commute on a 2017 R6 and I wont be upgrading to a R7. I might consider a larger MT down the track. One thing about the R6 in traffic is that you can downshift quickly and get out of hairy situations very quickly. It is nice to have power on tap sometimes from a safety perspective.
C’mon.....R6 is a great beginner bike....u don’t have to shift until after 60mph meaning u can focus on everything else....and if something does jump out at ya the two discs up front will stop ya so fast ull go back in time....👍🤣
I’m so sick of hearing people say why we buy super sport bikes for the street, BECAUSE WE WANT TO. Same reason why people buy super cars for the street, they want to. Again not everyone wants to go fast on a super sport bike. Some of us jus like the look over the other bikes out there.
This was a great video, well done. I still think Yamaha should have created a new sport-cruiser category like Kawasaki, used up the whole MT line for it, and left the R6 to its fans. I want to say these past two years have been harsh on sales but the R7 decision must have been made before COVID? Good job guys!
Come on guys tell it like it is, the R7 is a replacement for the R6 but its nowhere near as good. So stop holding back because in that video I could hear it in your voices the R6 was doing it for you big time lol.
And what about putting the R7 against the machine it wants to compete with: 2021+ CBR660R!? And it would be interesting to see which engine and tune is the more fun and performant on street, twisties and track. A 2 episode videos. Keep the track test for the 2nd video so we have a cliffhanger !
A few guys l rode with did front and rear sprocket changed to get the R6 to perform red light wars on the weekends. Long time ago it was an real quick upgrade. I just rode an open class and didn't have to deal with it.👋💀
I felt so understood when Spite said "I'm shifting when my brain tells me to, but the engine says that I still have 4K rpms to go!!"... First time I revved up my FZ6 all the way up to 14K it took a lot of brain power to be like "wait.... wait... wait... wait....... wait..." Now I hit the limiter on the rest of bikes when I try to accelerate hard hahahaha
Awsome videos guys! I feel like the R7 just doesn't make sense. Sport bikes are suppost to be crazy, exciting and uncomfortable lol. If offered a choice between a 2009 R6 for $5 and a 2021 R7 for $5, I would take the R6 in a heartbeat.
Go ride an R7 and it makes sense. It’s typical street bike cornering and highway speed, but with usable torque for daily riding. The R6 isn’t bad. The R7 just does some things better.
"The R6 is just a race bike with lights. That's all it is." So is the Cbr600 and zx6r. The only one that isn't is the Suzuki. Also it shows Spite is scared of the R6 and very unknowable about how to ride it. It's pretty tall geared and able to hit 180mph which is kinda insane for a 600. And I keep hearing "it makes 50 more hp" which honestly doesn't matter much for sprint races. Like everything, it matters how its delivered and the R7 does deliver it nicely... but it's still a 2 cylinder. The R6 even beats sv1000s and the like.
I agree with almost everything you said..except that the Suzuki or kawi only have been winning Supersport series cups for the last however many years. The gsxr 600 is actually the perfect 600 exceptional on street and track. The others have there flaws on either track or street
The R3 and R7 are grouped together as sport bikes, the R6 and R1 are Super sports. Comparing the R6 to the R7 is like comparing the CBR600RR to the CBR650R, two different bikes for two different reasons. Track ≠ Street
Prime spite video. Uses his extensive vocab to sound smart when he really has no clue what he’s talking about. The guy hasn’t been riding for very long but has such a strong opinion on everything motorcycles. This video showed his true colors.
@@seeul8rwaynekerr I own a 2000 SV650s that I use on track. I will see what I can bring against the R7 next spring. I already rode an RS660 and almost bought one. But it's really lacking in the lower revs. Bang for the buck, I don't think anything beats an SV TBH. ✌😎
Billy a guy at our bike club has been collecting sports Yamahas for years, some of them from the early 1960s, he's got every 2 stroke RD model (both air and water cooled) ever made from the 50cc FS1E to the RD 500, alongside these he's got three of the race bikes (an RD200, A TZ250 and 350) he rode at the Ulster Grand Prix and North west 200, (he lives in Portstewart N.Ireland which is part of the N.W. 200 course, in a separate barn he keeps his 4 strokes, plus we were all pleased to hear that these bikes aren't just exhibits but used by Billy and his three sons. it was as we were looking at these bikes I noticed he had both the original (1999) and 2019 R6s so asked how he thought they compared, I was amazed and delighted when he said "take them out back to back and judge for yourself" which my mate and I were only too happy to do around part of the (public roads) N.W. 200 course, I had the R6 when it first came out in the red, white and black Nori Haga colours and it was one of the best bikes I've owned, so when I climbed onto the (very tall) 2019 R6 I was expecting an improved but similar version of the original, I was wrong ,it's a totally different bike, it's absolutely gutless, I've honestly come across 250s with more torque, the original R6 was a do it all fun bike that was comfortable and IMO a better looking bike, if you're after a track day bike todays R6 is just the job but doesn't compare with the original for fun ,comfort and putting a smile on your face and you could also take it to track days. I must also mention just how uncomfortable the 2019 R6 is, earlier this year I got the opportunity to ride the CBR1000 RR-R SP, a truly beautiful machine with space age technology but as a road bike NO! it's a torture implement which I didn't think I'd encounter so soon again but TBH I think it's a toss up to see which a medieval dungeon keeper would pick as a torture implement.
@@m1a1abrams3 Yeah zx6r is way better i4 but it's supersport vs sport-bike. It's like saying "Oranges tastes better" on Green apple vs Washington apple comparison lol. It's true but irrelevant to the topic.
@@m1a1abrams3 ZX6R is in a different class than CBR650R and R7. ZX6R is 600cc supersport class bike while CBR650R and R7 is 650 class sport bike class. If you can't tell the difference then oh well.........
I'm R6 biased since I have a 2013 but as a rather novice, casual rider, I can attest that I've scratched my head a few times getting knocked down a few pegs in street cred by guys riding what I thought would be lesser motorcycles. For example, my buddy and I went down to the Tail of the Dragon early this past summer, and he had an FZ07 (2012 I believe). He seemed to have the edge over me in those short, fun blasts down there and especially from a stand-still despite me knowing that I have the higher-end bike with more horsepower and more genuine race design. I also got schooled by a kid I met at a bar one night; he had some kind of high-displacement KTM dual sport (or something like that) and after the rest of the guys peeled off, he and I decided to play a little at a stop light, and he completely toasted me off the line. I thought I was going to school him without much effort. Sure enough, I started to crawl up on him pretty quick as we got up to speed and the clear horsepower difference started to take over, but that was after we were up to felony-level speeds and had to chop it, lol. Seems like the high-strung supersports are much more capable objectively and statistically speaking, yet that superiority in performance doesn't even show up unless completely dialed in at high speeds, at which point no casual, inexperienced rider can safely ride. They're kind of homerun bikes; they're only fast when they're on a track where you can wring it out, and then boy are they FAST, but gutless down low, making them easy prey for otherwise slower bikes. Then there's the 1000cc superbikes which just indiscriminately eat everything they encounter 😈🤑
