oh no... that means I gotta test drive this new one, cuz I really liked the previous gen seats. I liked how it seats more like a car (low, legs out front) than a truck (high, knees at 90)
While the seating position has been one of the biggest issues for Tacoma owners for decades, you're the first reviewer that mentioned that its changed. Congratulations
@@cheesecurd100s The 2.4 Turbo is better than the wheezy V6 in almost every way. The design is a variation of the 2.0T which they’ve had for a decade now with zero reliability issues to speak of. Yes, in the long run I’d still rather have a N/A V6 over a Turbo 4, but I still think the turbo + manual option is a plus.
Truck looks amazing but I can’t imagine buying a four-cylinder truck, even the tundra is gutted with a V6. This thing is not going to last with all the electric motors and turbos. After test driving the new tundra, I decided to buy a 2019 V8 four-wheel-drive. The tundra hesitated and does not have the same power the V-8 does.
I have to say, when I went to Toyota’s website this morning, I wasn’t impressed with how it looked based on the pictures they have in their gallery. Your video really brings this new design to life. I’m interested in the Limited trim, depending on what the price is, compared to the Canyon Denali. Only wish the 2nd row had a bit more leg room. Otherwise, this is looking great!
Not me for the four-door. I’m getting the simple two door. Finally like the old ‘simple’ trucks of the past, I had an 85 xtracab, no rear seats just a shelf. This will bring me back my memories of that. I am so glad for Toyota offering this.
Looks excellent! Actually surprised this didn't grow in size like so many vehicles do every new generation. Still hope Toyota releases a Maverick competitor!
I was thinking if Alex was sitting in a Gen 3, his knees would have been on both sides of the seat instead of tucked together in the middle. Maybe I'm wrong. 🤷♂
Well Toyotas quality is really a thing of the past. If you follow the car care nut he pointed out the fit and finish on the sequoia and tundra are just not good at all and those were certainly not pre production models
I have to admit I skimmed through most of Alex’s promo for the Tacoma. I did not hear a price. Of course it’s a nice truck, just like the new ranger and the GM products, and the forgotten Nissan. But I just want a simple truck for chores. I feel a bit like a forgotten customer as these and the full size trucks have become luxury cars with moderately useful truck boxes. I am going to have to work on my “ologies” a bit to wrap myself around spending $70000 CDN for a “mid size” truck. I bought a ranger in 2007 for my son, last truck I bought, It cost less than $20000. Changing times :)
Toyota has hit a homerun here, looks great. They will sell every single one they can produce. The 6-speed manual is really cool, but the stick shift itself looks weird and wonky. I wish the back seat had about 2 more inches of legroom.
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Its crazy how fancy trucks have become. I am not seeing any of these trucks in construction/towing, because next second they will get damaged or messed up :D. I miss good old full steel trucks that we didn't care to bump around
Toyota both nailed it and squandered the opportunity. People have been asking for more leg room in the back since these are daily drivers. I’ve heard from people who can’t fit a child seat in the back and that space is limited for things like groceries. The low towing is another issue; even though a bunch of people don’t tow or tow a lot with their taco. I’m a taco owner myself and those are gripes I’ve heard over and over and over for years now. They did a great job with styling, tech, and keeping the manual transmission. The good thing is that my TRD Tacoma is probably going to fetch a premium when it’s time to resell!
With keyless start and better base power / trans, I think the SR is looking very appealing this gen If Toyota isn't aggressive with its pricing on upper trims, they may find customers choosing the base models at a higher rate than before
I think Toyota has knocked it out of the park, we get a really nice looking interior, power running boards and a powered liftgate, things which you can't get on any other midsize truck and you cant forget 465lb-ft or torque, this is an absolute game changer in my opinion. It is also the best looking midsize truck in my opinion
I’m close to saying that I agree. Aside from the cramped rear seats and the fact that you can’t get a manual handbrake with the manual transmission I think I’m close to saying they did a good job The big question is that will the launch of this go smoothly whereas the launch of the tundra, not so much?
I'm extremely interested in the new Tacoma hybrid. It looks good and I love the interior. I really hope it's fuel efficient, maybe 27+ MPG highway! I don't need to tow, I just want a rugged vehicle with reasonable fuel efficiency!!
Idk after seeing the hybrid having the same I force max as the tundra I just see mpg being the same with more power just like the tundra . They really need to make a Tacoma trim aimed at fuel efficiency
@@bob7436Not necessarily a dream. The F-150 hybrid gets about 24 mpg city and hwy. A 27+ mid-sizer should be possible assuming you don't go overboard with the off-road features and add-ons.
@@Jfarmerthunder I totally agree. What's the point of a hybrid if it's not more fuel efficient than the regular offerings? I think the 24 Ranger is going with a PHEV later this year or early 24' which is even better than hybrid only.
4 cylinder turbo engines in a truck is an immediate dealbreaker. Your not going to see trouble-free space shuttle miles out of this drivetrain. The styling is better than the overwrought cartoonish look of the new Tundra but still “Tundra enough” to be a turn-off. As a Toyota truck owner of 20 years, I just bought a new Nissan Frontier with its naturally aspirated V6. Toyota really let me down w crappy turbo engines and Saturday morning cartoon styling 😐
@@0HOON0 I hope so _Hoon_. I’m a life long Toyota owner and would like to see them succeed. I’ve been around turbos my entire life (54) and it never ends well. I do like my Frontier tho :)
I agree with everything you said in your post especially about four-cylinder turbo engines in a truck being a disaster especially for a 50 $60,000 truck that this thing is going to cost
Still no Auto 4WD. Immediate deal breaker for me. And the full-time 4WD on the Limited doesn't cut it either. I want 2WD for summer driving and Auto 4WD for winter driving. Those are the two modes used almost all the time. 4HI and 4LO only get used in extreme conditions.
I have a 4runner with lockable limited slip center differential, and it's excellent in the snow in limited slip mode. I only ever lock it for rock crawling. No need for 2wd either.
It will be interesting to see if the 2025 4Runner also gets a manual transmission option, because the new Taco has one. To amortize the cost of R&D for the new Tacos manual, it would make economic sense for Toyota to offer more manuals on other models, to ensure they get a ROI, and drive down the over all build cost, due to economies of scale.
@@OSTKCabal Sir, please. The Traverse isn’t $50k because of top notch materials. It does offer a V6 and AWD standard at that price point and it’s not very far off the interior dimensions of a full size SUV.
Its interesting to see the rose colored glasses some folks have gained for the outgoing V6 with this debut. I don't think anyone can really look objectively at the 2GR-FKS and say it was well-matched to the Tacoma's weight, or purpose. This was a lengthy stopgap measure between the petrol-swigging 1GR, which did a better job of producing bottom end torque, to improve fuel economy a bit.... but the 2GR had to rev too high to do much. These turbo-4s WILL be better at getting off the line and don't sacrifice anything horsepower wise. It's 2023. We've got strong turbos and powerful hybrids. Want a V6 - head over to Nissan and get a solid but aged vehicle. God knows they need the money.
Yeah, I don't know why some have reversed their opinions re. the 3.5l V6 in the Tacoma. It was well loved in other applications, but not in the Tacoma where most believed it was a downgrade from the old 4.0l still in the 4Runner.
@@chrisx5127 I have an older Xtracab. It's a PITA getting stuff in and out of the back. I don't need jump seats, but at least one suicide door would have been nice.
@@ElHuff For me too. I love the looks and specs but the people in my house need to fit comfortably in the back. Disappointed since I've been waiting for a good mid-iszed pick-up truck but didn't want to go to the gas-guzzling Ridgeline.
You know to be a good Auto journalist you don't always have to find something wrong. You can just appreciate all of the work that went into the vehicle. I don't think you have any credentials to criticize any car company unless you're an engineer or happened to run your own car company
Thank You, Alex! You seem to be the only reviewer on RU-vid that actually compares the seating position vs. the previous model when your legs are stretched straight out, which is annoying. Thanks again for always a complete review. Makes your channel that much more enjoyable compared to other reviewers on here. Toyota for the Win. Was looking at a Chevy Colorado, but Toyota looks more aggressive and "Reliable" on the road! Win-Win!!!
The Tacoma had the worst 2nd row leg room with 32” and you’re telling me they made it even smaller?! While the Ford Ranger increased from 34” to a whopping 38”!
Of course Alex is here in Hawaii with the new Toyota Tacoma truck. It's the state car here. If it could, the Honolulu Police Department would have it on their police patrol vehicle list, but almost everyone is using the Toyota 4Runner SUV.
Jack Hollis said over a year ago the Tacoma wasn't going to grow in size because the Tacoma was already bigger than they wanted. The rear seats not getting bigger shouldn't be a surprise.
I've always hated screens that look tacked on to the dash. But otherwise i think Toyota crushed it. All the upgrades we've been begging for, but without anything radical.
I have a 4th gen 4runner with lockable limited slip center differential. It's the best 4wd system in my opinion. Best of both worlds for on road handling in the snow and off road rock crawling. I wish it was available on more than just the Limited Tacoma and 4Runner. I don't need all the luxury stuff, but I'd be willing to pay a small premium for the limited slip differential.
I really really don't get the rear legroom, wtffff could have easily made 3 more inches, GM mid size legroom sucks, 2024 ranger is good But No hybrid and only 5 ft bed. Just can't win 😮
@@davidgroff3355honestly, with all those requirements (rear legroom, longer bed, more powerful/fuel efficient engine) you're basically asking for a half ton (like a F150 Ecoboost). Except those prices are ridiculous so we're just stuck.
I've driven Tacoma trucks since 2011 (I currently own a 2022 Tacoma TRD Off-Road). I'm very interested in the 2024 Tacoma TRD Sport with all the features as in this video. The Dealership in my area never charges market adjustments, so I'm hoping I can get one for at most $50k OTD.
I'm really interested to see if Toyota releases a Maverick competitor. I heard rumors they might once but then never heard anything more about it. If they do then I'd happily cancel my Maverick order because it's been 2 years and now Ford is getting shady about the price lock so I'm betting they won't honor it. Ford said it will be about another year before they can deliver my Maverick so let's see what happens in the meantime.
I had a hybrid Maverick and greatly regret selling it for a Bronco 😭 I want Toyota to enter that market but they're so slow, we probably won't see something for years.
There is no such thing as a 'price lock'. What Ford does have is Price Protection. If you have placed an order, you are protected from mid-year price increases while you wait for delivery. That goes for any Ford. If the model jumps in price from one model year to another that is a separate issue. Ford sometimes issues 'Private Offers' to cover year to year increases for order holders as they did for those that extended their reservations from 2022 to 2023 Lightnings. Keep your order sheet and stand your ground while being polite. You'll get it, don't worry.
Hell yeah brother! Best looking truck in the segment. Nice work Toyota! I gladly welcome the turbo engine with 8 speed trans. Hope to see 29mpg on the highway, 25mpg combined
I much prefer a blacked out look rather than chrome, but I really like the features on the Limited, especially the adaptive suspension, advanced 4WD setup, the multitude of camera views, etc. That said, The TRD Offroad has always been my preferred Tacoma trim. It's the best of both worlds... lots of optional content for those who want it and more than enough off road chops to satisfy a weekend warrior like me. Even better, it's a great foundation for those who want to build the ultimate off-road beast. I owned a current gen TRD offroad long bed and I didn't love it...very annoying truck to drive for many reasons. However I am considering the same configuration in this new model with the hybrid max engine, but not until they've had time to resolve any launch issues, which always happen. This will be an absurdly expensive truck, but if it addresses all of my problems with the current gen it might just be worth it.
I dunno man. I am a lifelong yota driver but these pickups are at the “might as well get the full size” category. I had a 2020 taco and it was fun off road, but really cramped inside. I am EV these days but I am certain these will sell very well!
Having heated and ventilated seats with heads up display is a real plus on a mid-size pickup. Toyota did their homework on the features with the Limited trim. Couldn't believe they have power running boards like my current GMC Sierra 1500 Denali truck.
It didn't help much on the Tundra. Definitely will add a ton more torque. The thing about turbos is the mileage will vary wildly depending on speed and driving behaviors. If you keep it in boost it will suck like a V8. Although I think this smaller displacement then GM's 2.7 will probably add 1-2 MPG more. I'm not holding my breath for much though. Heavy body on frames with the aero dynamics of a brick don't do well. I see Toyota put a monster air dam on it. That's not a good sign. Shows they were gasping to try to improve MPG's. Because that air dam completely destroys the looks and approach angle. I've come to the conclusion that oems have hit a wall with Petrol motors as far as MPG's on truck applications. That is around 22 MPG's on hwy (if your lucky) and that's about it regardless of how they approach the problem. That is with AFM, turbos, hybrid you name it. They hit a wall. The solution is a very old one. Its called Diesel. Diesel is and always has been the best for truck applications. If offers both torque and MPG's for truck applications and decent capability. EV offers good cost per KWH but lacks any decent capability of any kind. When towing with EV you have very little range. And the heavy ass batteries mean little box capability making the EV the worst choice imaginable. IMO, the half ton silverado with the inline 6 is a fantastic motor in the current LZO dress. Inline six gives you a ton of torque and very reliable. GM got the Emissions working on it to a tee. Best thing is you can find nice 4X4 versions of that truck for around 52K (about 7K off MSRP). IMO, that is the best truck on the market. Why overpay for this silly mid size? Also that duramax can hit up to 30 mpg's. Only the US is stuck on Petrol applications on trucks. Overseas they get it. Hilux, Navara, Ranger, D-Max etc... all diesel every day and twice on Sundays.
@@HiPlains1 It's certainly true that the US has a dieselphobia -- The VW scandal certainly didn't help. That said, and yeah, I know many people don't consider it a real truck, but I was easily able to hit 27MPG on HWY on my Ridgeline (unfortunately it got totaled a few months ago) -- but I can't help but to wonder what Honda and Hyundai could do with the Ridgeline and the Santa Cruz if they filled the ice-chest compartment in the truck bed with batteries.
@@HiPlains1 They can do better with gas hybrid engines, they choose not to. The Sienna and Highlander hybrids both get 36 city / 36 highway. Those are not small cars. They have similar size and weight to a Tacoma. They probably have better aerodynamics than a pickup truck, but still, they should be able to do low 30's city for a hybrid truck.
Do you realize you are actually contributing to the problem? You are literally telling everyone to expect to pay a mark up. If you don't like mark ups, don't pay them or expect others to.
I am one of the 90%+ who will never take my truck off roading or even on dirt if possible. I live in a year round warm climate and don't want or need the expense, weight, fuel penalty, and increased maintenance costs associated with 4 wheel drive. Is Toyota going to offer a 2 wheel drive version in the limited?
Why would I spend that much more money when my 2022 is still perfectly healthy. Is in solid shape and will be coming off its lease in 21 months. Not only that my cost to purchase will only be 21k. Yeah good luck finding a used Tacoma for 21k with under 30,000 miles at an affordable price. Sure it might cost me some of my retirement funds to purchase but it’s absolutely worth it
THE PRE-RUNNER IS FOR ME. 2 seats are enough for a single empty nest guy w/an adult son who lives way over on the west coast. Single father all alone now. Don’t need the extra space & I don’t need all that extra crap BUT the options are nice. I really love the power tailgate. I did not see that coming on a Toyota truck. NOW….I’m waiting for Toyota’s answer to The Ford Maverick before I make a decision.
R.I.P. Naturally aspirated engine, we'll miss your smoothness. Great review Alex! Pricing..... like everything else.... most likely in the stratosphere!!
@@Natethegreat200c I love my King Ranch but I don’t tow or haul anything. Plus, I get about 15.5 mpg. A midsize could work better for me. A little more room in the garage wouldn’t hurt either.
Disappointing they did away with a v6 option. Honda just made changes to their v6 in their pilots, and I’m hoping/assuming they use that on any ridge updates.
Great review as always! Thank you for mentioning the seating position of the prior model. I really liked the look of the last gen taco but didn't get it because it felt like riding in a lifted car. Also appreciate the in depth on each model. I think I know which one I might go for when it comes time to upgrade.
EVERY DANG TIME the powered tailgate was activated, that "beeeep!" sound made me wonder if I'd had the oven timer on. The first time I even went into the kitchen to check and was very confused!! 😅
I wish they would quit with the Torsen system only being available on Limited trims. I don't want the chrome, the worse approach and departure angles, the high price tag and features I don't need. I want Torsen as a standalone option in a low to mid trim.
Alex, considering how new nd recent this whole thing is, youve gone into great detail! I agreee the Limited will likely be the best trim for most. Thank you for taking the time nd doing this, it helps a lot of us.
