I have the F150 2.7 eco boost and get 25mpg on the highway all day long. But that’s where I do most of my driving so it works great. Living in Canada there are rumours this Taco TRD will be close to $70K 😳😳😳
Well my old 2TR-FE 4 cylinder only made like 170hp and still only got like 21mpg so there is that. My F-150 5.0 is averaging 18mpg, though that is with lots of towing too.
And history shows that the Toyota loyalists will be more than happy and willing to pay for it. Toyota knows this. Charge more while providing less. They love it.
I visited the LA Auto Show on Thanksgiving and checked various trucks of the same segment, e.g. Nissan Frontier, Chevy Colorado. These mid-size trucks are definitely not designed for long road trips for 4 adults. The rear seats are all too upright and uncomfortable, and it appears that the Tacoma has the same problem.
Don't think I can go from a V6 Tacoma to a 4 cylinder turbo. The Range Rover Velar I test drove was a 2.0 Turbo, and it was horrible. Decided on a V8 SC Vogue. Love the design of the new trucks, just not the power train.
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Man I was really hoping they’d replace all their old V6 and V8 engines with a more reliable hybrid system than just simply turbocharging everything. I fear the 300k, 400k, 500k+ mile Toyotas are going to be limited to those without turbos
@Auto Buyers Guide | Alex on Autos: the Limited looks like a nice trim but the price point approaches Tundra territory. That tells me TRD Pro and Trail Hunter will be $60k…. Crazy
Haven’t been excited about any new vehicles the last 3 years. Prices just make these things not as desirable as they once were. SR5 now starts $5810 higher at $37,695
@@jstrig this. I do think there’s a good mix of people out there that are trying to be smart and hold out as long as I can and then there’s other people who don’t give a shit and try to take out 10 year loans.
@@KPHVAC I don't want to idle my truck for 1 minute before I start driving nor do I want to let it cool down for several minutes before I turn off the ignition. That what I mean by babying a turbo engine. Oh and I also want to drive aggressive after my break-in period. Doing any of these things opposite of what I mentioned decreases the lifespan of the turbo engine. This was confirmed by the car care nut (Toyota master technican).
@@chrisx5127 It would have been nice if Toyota kept the V6 as an option. The Government and the Elites want everything to be "green." Toyota and all the other automakers are forced to make smaller engines, hybrids, and EV's.
We need to boycott every automaker. They’re still taking advantage of the whole production-shortage thing to increase MSRP of new cars even after the pandemic ended.
You forgot about the Frontier again, which is the only truck that comes close to comparing to this as far as options. It's the only other truck that offers a king cab.
20 mpg is ridiculous, especially for a 4 cylinder. Also, if a tundra barely gets 22mpg with it's hybrid, something tells me it's no where close to getting 25mpg.
Atleast you can still get an access cab and 6' bed unlike GM and the Colorado/Canyon. Not surprised that it's yet another turbo pos though. A SOHC or DOHC V6 that lasts seems to hard to ask for anymore.
I will stick with my F150 2.7 Eco boost crew cab getting 25 mpg on the highway. Rumours circulating they will be asking $70K CDN for the TRD version. Which is just a ridiculous price for a little truck.
There are several different TRD trims, only the TRD Pro will be close to $70K CAD. Meanwhile, the Ranger Raptor (direct competitor to the TRD PRO) is $80K CAD. The far more common and popular TRD Sport and TRD Off Road trims will be around $50K, same as a Ranger XLT / Lariat.
i keep trucks for at least 15years. I don't trust turbo's and never will. I can't beleive i'm actually thinking of rebuilding the engine in my 2009 f150 over buying a new truck. It's really sad that the auto industry chose to obey bs gov't rules instead of fighting it. I didn't even know the 23 tacoma's were going to be the last year that they had reliable no turbo v6's engines. I might pick one up while i still can and use my old f150 just for work.
I think people are overreacting to the whole turbo thing. Turbo chargers can be reliable. Toyota has been building turbos and putting them into Land Cruisers and trucks overseas for multiple decades now. I think they would know a thing or two by now about how to make turbo engines reliable. Plus if I was going to trust any maker with a turbocharged engine. It would be Toyota?
Just sticking a Toyota logo on a turbo motor doesn’t automatically make them reliable. Just like taking a z4 and swapping logos didn’t suddenly make the Supra as reliable as a Camry or corolla. It has bmw reliability .
@@naveenthemachine I never said that tho. I said modern turbo engines are reliable, this isn’t the 1980s anymore where turbos were bad. Diesel engines have been using turbos for years, even Toyota has been using turbos for a long time. The 70 series land cruiser has been using a turbodiesel V8. All I’m saying is modern turbo engines can last a very long time
A manual is a more immersive driving experience. If you didn’t grow up with a manual, you probably don’t see the value. It’s kinda like a wood campfire versus a propane campfire.
@@stuartstuart866 agreed, it's also the most intelligent manual transmission because it only does what you want it to do. Of course that is driver dependent, but I still feel it's a great option for those who want more simplicity and fun.
Wireless AA works great on my GRC, so I don't think the connection on the right side of the headunit is a big deal. I like the new Tacoma, totally fine with all turbo...definitely wouldn't mind the 2 door version with a stick! my GRC has been great and there are plenty of old turbo celicas, mr2s and mkiv supras out there still doing totally fine. In fact just saw a clean stock jewel green turbo supra yesterday.. if you really care about reliability, you have 20+ years of old tacomas/tundras to buy and plenty of new tacos with the old powertrains still on dealer lots, so why people are crying makes no sense to me..😂
I think that was just a slip of the rumored figure that Toyota inadvertently put on their website (before immediately pulling it). Hope I'm wrong, but I'm going to guess that mileage might be a little lower than that.
@@naveenthemachine What do you mean by more enjoyable and easier to live with? Reliability isnt necessarily the same as longevity. I suspect that for the first 3 owners, this engine will be reliable enough (and enjoyable enough if you want to get subjective about it).
The Ford and GM twins offer more for a similar priced taco. The frontier from Nissan is a closer competitor and comes with a V6. This time around Toyota is following Ford and going the turbo route and it may come back to bite them, but considering their short warranty, lease owners shouldn't worry too much. I'm not really liking Toyota's quality as of late, fit and finish is to be desired and warranty claims are going up. For my money a used naturally aspirated truck will outlast mostly anything built nowadays with a planed obsolescence mentality. Stop paying these scandalous prices for vehicles that are obsolete and old news with the new trims and updates coming out every 4 years.
Unbelievable they decided to put this into production. Barely better fuel economy compared to the f150 2.7l engine and you get a lot less truck. Horrible update
And it’s going to be cheaper, it’s smaller, so it’s easier to park. Midsize trucks never got a huge increase in fuel economy over their full-size counterparts. I mean look at the mpg the Colorado/Canyon get, it is right on par with this truck. Also there is still a hybrid coming
@@alwaysiyi272of all the things the Tacoma is… cheap is not one of them. All the full size pick up trucks have thousands and thousands off their MSRP which brings the price very close to the Tacoma.
Chief engineer explained that diesel emissions laws are ridiculously strict and it would have taken 3 years longer to acquire the permit to make a new diesel engine.
