Risible nonsense. I suppose you worship everyone you pray to, living or dead, then? Educate yourself both in theology and the use of the English language.
@@hilairebelloc3368 go learn what the Hebrew word for worship is and means and then come back and tell me you Catholics don’t worship Mary or saints - especially before statues dedicated to Mary and a saint - then tell me you don’t worship Mary or some saint.
@@williamcarder1975 "go learn what the Hebrew word for worship is and means and then come back and tell me you Catholics don’t worship Mary or saints - especially before statues dedicated to Mary and a saint - then tell me you don’t worship Mary or some saint." 1. We don't use the Hebrew word for worship. We use specifically-defined Latin and Greek terms. 2. As it happens, 1 Chronicles records the people "bowing down" to King David in worship, without any negative comment. Unless you want to insist that the particular root meaning of an ancient Hebrew word is universally equivalent to the divine worship of God (in which case any person who bowed in reverence to anything but God alone was guilty of idolatry), you got nothing. 3. We don't offer the Sacrifice to Mary or any other saint. Protestants don't offer the Sacrifice to God. 4. Thus, Catholics do not render divine worship to any created person.
@@hilairebelloc3368 you pray to Mary, you bow down to statues of Mary, you call her the Queen of Heaven when the Bible doesn’t call her that, you claim that she was Immaculately Conceived, you claim that she was a perpetual virgin, and you believe that the only way to Jesus is through her - you Catholics 100 percent worship Mary. In fact, the average Catholic prayer book has more “prayers” to Mary than to God. Stop lying Catholic.
@CowboyFantastic007 you're lying. I've been to lots of Masses. I have never seen a priest offer the Holy Eucharist up to Mary, the Mother of God... Never. A gift of flowers is not worship....
@@adam9817 I saw it for 20 years of Catholicism. Affection towards Mary is a heart of affection which exults Mary. The rosary is a chain of beads absent of power towards a woman who’s Son saved her soul. Mary wasn’t holy before her Son, how can the messiah make her holy as your pope claims before His birth? Only explanation is that Mary’s parents had to be holy and that’s impossible as well as biblically false. Your Eucharist is not the body of Christ! And can lowly broken bankrupt sinners (priests) call down the Second Person of the Trinity into a cube of bread? Riddle me that please
@@jerrythompson2915 You are putting your faith in man-made traditions over God's Word 😢 Nowhere in the Bible Does it say Peter became the Pope. same way there's no where in the Bible about the 15 promises of Mary from your catechism. All of these things are lies. You're greatly deceived please wake up.
How much more can one possibly do to a statue of Mary before one would consider it worship? What does a person, such as a Hindu, do to their idols that a Catholic doesn't already do to a statue of Mary?
Malachi 1:11 says, "For from the rising of the sun to its setting, my name will be great among the nations, and in every place incense will be offered to my name, and a pure offering". This verse appears after God confronts his people for their worship, which he says minimizes his greatness. Catholics only worship God because their priests only offer up sacrifice to God... The Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ on the alter in the Precious Holy Eucharist. The "perfect sacrifice". "The "New Covanent " which protestant Christians are outside of while they nash their teeth at the Holy Roman Catholic Church Our Lord Jesus Christ Started and bleed for... Protestant Christians cloister themselves in a cocoon of spiritual stupidity and the irony of it all is that they actually believe they have the most intimate relationship with God because they bypassed the Catholic Priesthood, Saints, as well as Our Beautiful Spiritual Mother Mary who suffered along side Jesus for her Church. CATHOLICS RUN LAPS AROUND PROTESTANT CHRISTIANS WHEN IT COMES TO TRUE WORSHIP...
@@Pat.hibuleire God forbids the worship of images as gods, but he doesn't ban the making of images. It is when people begin to adore a statue as a god that the Lord becomes angry. Thus, when people did start to worship the bronze serpent as a snake-god (whom they named “Nehushtan”), the righteous king Hezekiah had it destroyed (2 Kgs.
Prayer is only meant to be received by the living God. Whether one believes Mary is dead in the grave awaiting resurrection, or as Romanists believe, alive and assumed into heaven, either way, praying to Mary is effectively worshipping her as on the same level as God. And no, she's NOT mediating, because there's only ONE Mediator.
@@Pat.hibuleireRead YOUR Bible pal, and make sure it's not a tampered CATHOLIC version. 1 Thess 4 says the DEAD IN CHRIST shall rise. Nothing ambiguous there. Stay out of your catechism and stop lying about the Bible.
Then I suppose you failed to read the verses directly preceding that passage in 1 Timothy 2, in which St. Paul tells us straight that we are all to intercede one for another. And no, prayers can be offered to any saint, alive on earth or living in heaven. Educate yourself on what the word "prayer" means.
Luke 1:46 And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has looked on the humble estate of his servant. For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name.
Mary told us the truth about who she was in relationship with GOD. I believe that she would be appalled knowing how the catholic worship her. She would be embarrassed.
Yes Everyone has sinned and has come short of the glory of God Yes Everyone with no exception Yes Mary has been blessed among all women Mary is the mother of Jesus as a human Jesus is also the Son of God and God himself God has no mother
Jesus Christ human God, had a human mother. Revelation 12:1 A woman dressed with the son whith the moon under her feet and on her head a crown of 12 starts Also Revelation a woman will crash the head of the serpent. Jesus Christ called His mother woman.
@@mariamartins5796you don’t have that right, the woman in revelation is the church, and don’t forget John, Peter, and the Hebrews author, and also God Himself in Isaiah, all say that Jesus IS God.
@@randycarson9812 well she bore God the Son, but by the power of God the Father was Jesus her earthly son, so it’s hard to explain. She is the mother of God, but at the same time…. You know. She just isn’t divine but Jesus is. I guess that’s the best way to say it lol.
THE LAST WORDS THAT THE BIBLE RECORDS MARY EVER SAYING WERE AT THE WEDDING WHEN CHRIST TURNED WATER INTO WINE. The Lord told servants at the wedding to fill some water pots with water. Mary told the servants “Whatever He says, do it!” These Catholics need to do that also.
Let's say you have a photograph of a deceased loved one; your mom, grandmother, deceased child, etc, and you kiss it, that kiss would not equate to worshipping of that person. It would only signify the love you have for them. You'd share that photo to your friends on the anniversary of their death? Birthday? Anniversary? The statues of Mary are like these photos. Their image is a reminder of the beautiful relationship you had and the longing to see them once more in heaven. It's not that we had a relationship with Mary on earth, but instead, it was Jesus who had such a relationship with His mother. It's like He is the one showing us a picture of His mom on her birthday, the day she birthed Him, her wedding anniversary with Joseph, their travels thru the dessert, her death anniversary, etc. Jesus still loves His mother! He loves her so much that He made us her children too. John 9: 26-27
Ummm, no. We are to worship God with all our heart, mind, soul, and strength. Not Mary in any shape, form or practice. It’s one thing to call her blessed among all woman, it’s another to worship her as if she is Deity.
And in the bible not even angels allow humans to worship them as we see many times in Revelation. So there is no justification for the worship of Mary.
If you create a statue of someone, kneel down before it, carry it around in parades, and believe it to have a part in your redemption, then yes… you are worshiping it! Mary was a vessel for the birth of the savior and is not more responsible for my redemption then I am responsible for someone else’s redemption because I was a vessel for the gospel.
@@randycarson9812 Mary was never a part of our spirituality, that is for the pagans. If you knew the Father you would not pay much attention to Mary at all. You would be aware of her deeds an that would be it, Jesus said his mother and brothers were those who obeyed God
Not true you can use statues because they are a symbol of god or saints i heaven nothing wrong with that no one said that praying to a specific statue will save you that’s dumb that’s unbiblical and that isn’t something that Catholics believe
Actual Mary is far more responsible for someone’s salvation than you. Without Mary, Jesus would not have become Incarnate and saved us on the Cross. You are not His Mother. But, yes we can imitate Mary by bringing the Lord to those who need Him.
Imagine that Almighty God, who is jealous for our worship, encourages or allows to worship the creation instead of the Creator! Angles in Scripture rebuke those who bow before them and declare that only God is worthy; they know that they are not worthy.
I agree. Self worship and vanity is idolatry plain and simple the same as Lucifer with this man speaking here with no intention of trying to understand why we Catholics believe and what it actually is and just trying to stir up hatred, lies, and strife incurring his own condemnation doing the will of his father, Satan. Matthew 7 condemns this man as Jesus tells us to mind our own damn business with the sins of others unless you want condemnation for your own sins.
But if you re.ove the plank from your own eye then yes, tell someone they are sinning. It's so easy to sin and not even know it due to our natures and the lies of the enemies of God. It's about not being a hypocrite.
@@PureSniperWolf But this man deliberately does not care to learn what Catholics believe and is spreading a Gospel of condemnation and hate towards Catholics without any concern whatsoever which runs contrary to what Jesus taught of universal grace, inclusiveness, and forgiveness for all those who acknowledge their own sins and want to help bring others to the One Church he built which is the Catholic Church according to Scriptures and the early Christian community. Did Jesus tell us to be pushovers? Nope but he certainly did tell us not to condemn others just because they don’t agree with you and let Him be judge alone.
@@khanhnguyen-tt3ffJesus is both a human man same as myself and God the Son at the same time in the fullness of the Gospels and Mystery of Trinity being One God yet three Persons within himself all equal but different based on their relationships to each other.
@@Pat.hibuleire jethro was his father in law and moses was bowing down to him as in respect and he was greeting him. He wasn't worshipping or praying to Jethro.
Pls read my comment properly, moses bowed down to jethro in respect and he was greeting his father in law. He wasnt worshipping jethro. Catholics bow down to the statue of mary coz they are paying their respect, praying/ worshipping her. Mary was chosen, blessed and favoured by GOD but she wasn't sinless, "For ALL have sinned and came short of the glory of GOD". That adoration and worship should only be to GOD🙏
Jesus Revealed Himself to me in the Catholic Chucrh after being away for over 20 years in a church one day by myself, to whom much has been given much is expected blessed are those who have not seen but yet believe, I am happy to have a live talk about this let’s do a RU-vid live. And let those listening hear the word of God being spoken by both you and me and let them decide
I encourage you to learn about the Catholic faith before you try to desecrate it. I pray for you to grow in your Christian faith to be more loving, gentle, kind, and accepting of those who follow Christ rather than try to put them down. If you would ever like to discuss Catholicism, sacred tradition, the veneration of saints, and the beauty of the sacraments - I am more then willing to chat about it!
@@iThinkBiblically I’m not sure how he murdered thousands with a very short papacy. But even in the situation where an evil person is in the Church, the kingdom is not destroyed but rather most look at how it can grow and recover from damage. I feel you have a lot of pain in your heart from the Church, what happened? I’m free to talk about it.
@@millermania4801 Do you realize the RCC is not a part of the body of Christ, we do not recognize it, the RCC is an apostate imposter that wants to take the power that belongs to Jesus. Remember that Jesus hates the deeds of the Nicolatians
@millermania4801 may I know your testimony? If God was to ask you on Judgment Day, why should I let you into my kingdom? What would you say? Thank you. 😊
In the 5th century, when Pulcheria wanted to continue to rule the eastern Roman Empire beside her brother Theodosius, she was challenged in the role as she was a woman. So she created the cult of Mary to justify her being able to be empress. The worship or even veneration of Mary is not biblical, but it is political in origin.
If you seriously think that the cult of Mary has its origins in the fifth century, or that it was more influenced by political concerns than the Council of Ephesus, I can't help you.
Catholic Worship vs. Catholic Veneration: What's the Difference? 26 Jul 2023 - While Catholics hold Mary in high esteem and venerate her, they reserve worship exclusively for God, who is Father, Son (Jesus Christ), and Holy ...
@@iThinkBiblicallyIt’s offering a sacrifice. In Catholic theology, offering a sacrifice is considered as Worship. And that is what we do at every Mass, re-presenting the once for all, sacrifice of Christ, to God the Father. If a Catholic offers a sacrifice to Mary or to anyone that isn’t God, that is idolatry.
@@iThinkBiblically The practical difference between worship and veneration is as follows: Veneration entails respect and admiration of a created being; worship is praying to and honoring God. What makes the Catholic Church different or unique from other churches?25 May 2018  www.quora.com › What-is-... What is the difference between “venerating” and “worshipping” inside ...
@@iThinkBiblically What is the (practical) difference between veneration and worship? The underlying assumption here is that the act of veneration is an act of worship. But this is not necessarily true. The word veneration simply means to give great respect or reverence. The respect and reverence that Catholics give to sacred objects is not of the same kind of respect or reverence given to God.  www.catholic.com › why-ve... Why Veneration Isn't Idol Worship | Catholic Answers Q&A
No where does the Bible tell us to honor Mary. At best it’s taking praise and honor from God, at worst it’s idolatry and it is. If I built a statue of Satan and bowed before it and singed songs praising Satan, I hope you have the common sense to realize I’m not just “Venerating” Satan, but worshiping him
@@buddy_132 No one bows to statues of Mary, plus if you can freaking read it’s a way of honouring the woman who gave birth to woman. It’s just simply respect, she’s the person God picked to give birth to Jesus and we should respect and honour that
@@ProjectKHI “We should honor that” says you, not the Bible, not God. “Honoring” by spending who knows how many millions erecting vain statues of a woman. Jesus Himself says “Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist”. So why don’t you “honor” John the Baptist as much as you do Mary since according to Jesus John is the greatest man? Honestly tell me.
I truly believe if 99% of the Roman Catholics would pick up the Bible and just read it for themselves, especially the book of Hebrews the Roman Catholic Church would dissolve. This goes for all the other denominations out there, please just pick up your Bible and read it for yourself and just ask the Holy Spirit to guide you. God’s word will never fail you!
@@christisking970some catholics read the bible, but venerate their tradition, more than scripture, meaning that they love the master they serve, the cc, more than the one they should serve, "the Lord, Jesus Christ." Matthew 6:24..
So you think that first century christians were pagan and that their church is false but protestant church that started in 1600 is true church even though your founder Martin Luther was catholic. Protestants banned 7 books from the bible because it proves that they are wrong about catholicism and Christianity.
When my niece got married in the Catholic Church, they bowed to the priest! I was absolutely disgusted! I had to look away as the rest of the wedding party continued to do this blasphemous act of human worship. I wanted to leave. This priest even thought he was worthy of this…😖
Bowing is a sign of respect. This is the norm in all countries that are not a part of Protestant culture. I guess Moses was committing the act of “human worship” when he bowed to his father in law, Jethro. “Then Moses went out to meet his father-in-law, and he bowed down and kissed him; and they asked each other of their welfare and went into the tent.” Exodus 18:7 LSB
@@jamesjacob4002 We are not in that culture. What they did was blasphemy. Even the angel who visited John right before he wrote Revelation, told John to not bow down to him. You’re trying to excuse behavior that should not be excused. Especially when these priests are put up on such a high pedestal already. We’re not fooled. I know what I witnessed.
@@kellyanne7225Roman Catholicism is centered in Rome. How would they have an American or Australian Protestant culture? Roman, Greek, Hebrew, Syriac, Coptic, Ethiopian, Armenian, all Churches that were actually founded by Christ and His apostles, practice this. So, either we are correct. Or, we were all wrong, until some Anglo-Saxon, Germanic Peoples 1,500 years after Christianity started, found out that we shouldn’t be doing this. Was Moses worshipping his father-in-law when he bowed to him?
I will offer a balanced view. I'm almost 50, and was RC for more than half my life. I was a devout and dogmatic RC. We ABSOLUTELY worshipped Mary. To be fair many RC's do venerate and many do worship Mary. So let's not pretend that "worship" doesn't happen. So to my RC family and friends, let's not attack each other, let's just be honest and educate ourselves. Let's dialogue.
@@randycarson9812 If you believe Mary was sinless then you worship her. If you think she was a virgin for life then you worship her, if you think she was assumed into heaven then you worship her
@@johngraves9237So does us knowing and believing Lazarus was resurrected mean we worship him? Does us knowing that Peter and Paul were among the Apostles mean we worship them? How does knowledge and belief of that knowledge indicate worship? Perhaps its because many of you Protestants have such a shallow concept of worship.
@@dominicewing8940shallow concept? Intimate relationship with Jesus with no preist in between, going to God the Father like a little child. Him hearing even the groaning of my spirit and being in the presence of the Lord without having to perform a song and dance ritual on "holy ground". "Shallow"!?😮
Catholics offer the sacrifice of the mass to God father alone as worship. If people are offering sacrifice to Mary then there is a big problem. It sounds like most Protestants have a limited understanding of worship because most are limited to only singing, praying, and Bible studies.
The brilliant nineteenth-century convert Orestes Brownson, in one of his defenses of what he called "saint-worship" (noting that no word so accurately expressed the Catholic position but denying that it constituted idolatry), pointed out that since Protestants (in the main) lack a conception of liturgical sacrifice, they really worship God, in terms of what they actually *do,* only as much as Catholics venerate the saints. Catholics, however, *do* offer a sacrifice, a sacrifice we would never dream of offering to Our Lady, but only to the Blessed Trinity.
The underlying assumption here is that the act of veneration is an act of worship. But this is not true. The word veneration simply means to give great respect or reverence. The respect and reverence that Catholics give to sacred objects is not of the same kind of respect or reverence given to God. But your comments don't surprise a Catholic who knows how much Mary is despised by the devil. Mary untied the knot of Eves' disobedience with her obedience. And was given the power and commission from God to crush the head of the serpent. Your Protestant theology regarding the precepts of doctrine held by the Catholic Church that St Peter was given the keys to is hate. Not cool, brother. That's my Jesus's mum. Don't talk smack about the Daughter of God, the mother of Christ, the spouse of the Holy Spirit. The queen of heaven. You need study to understand Catholic theology and pray for the Holy spirits discernment before spreading Satan's lies, mate
@iThinkBiblically Wow, hatefilled & missing the point, mate. We don't worship her. We love her. She always points to the higher power. Don't misinterpret. If you don't understand Catholic doctrine or theology, don't make content slamming the Catholics or their beliefs. You do need discernment. An 20 yrs studying doctrine... May God bless your journey 🕊📿
@@daisyd2392Can you provide some scriptural references to validate your claims? Do you guys even know the bible at all? Do you guys ever get to study the bible or you live off the crumbs that fall from the tables of the priests? What you are doing is simple idol worship, it really doesn't matter how you try to pad it or make it look appealing. You have created for yourselves, a god, one that you worship and exalt above God Almighty. That is a big SIN..SIN OF IDOLATRY. There's nothing like Catholic doctrine, any doctrine that doesn't centre on Jesus and His Sovereignty is simple a false doctrine, and God will not lower His standards for anyone, including catholics.
@@daisyd2392 I did not see any hate coming from Caleb, why would you accuse him of such a thing, he is simply pointing out the wickedness in the RCC, those of us who are born again do not pay much attention to our sister Mary, we are aware of her obedience to the Word of God and that is it.
What is the difference between worship and adore? venerate implies a holding as holy or sacrosanct because of character, association, or age. worship implies homage usually expressed in words or ceremony. adore implies love and stresses the notion of an individual and personal attachment.7 days ago
The women also said, “And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did we make cakes for her, to worship her, and pour out drink offerings to her without our husbands’ permission?” So the Lord could no longer bear it, because of the evil of your doings and because of the abominations which you committed. "Therefore your land is a desolation, an astonishment, a curse, and without an inhabitant, as it is this day. Because you have burned incense and because you have sinned against the Lord, and have not obeyed the voice of the Lord or walked in His law, in His statutes or in His testimonies, therefore this calamity has happened to you, as at this day.” Jeremiah 44: 19, 22-23.
@@jeffpaton9667 your father luther the coprophage received the revelation about faith alone while pooping in the toilet Tell me this guy was not à tool of the devil
Why do people need to pray to, chant the name of, burn incense to, have special items of specific "saints"? They were flawed people like all the rest of us and died needing salvation like all of us. But Jesus IS our intercessor. Why pray to anyone else but God the Father, Christ the Son, or the Holy Spirit? Not saying this in a snarky or accusatory tone, I just don't understand why praying to, kissing bones and blood, or revering statues of anyone but God and Jesus makes sense? Why isn't Jesus enough? The Bible says He IS our intercessor.❤🙏✝️
Jesus is Mediator between man and God. Intercession is a different thing. I can interceed in prayers for you, meaning I pray for you to God. But I'm a sinner like anyone else, and God listen to the prayers of the righteous. Saints are not dead but alive. Mark 12:27 and the blessed mother is the most righteous among mankind since she was blessed by God. What is the first miracle Jesus did? Is the one that the blessed mother asked, even though it was not the time, his Son accomodate her request, because she is righteous. You don't know anything about incense? So you don't know your Bible? Psalm 141:2; Revelation 5:8; 8:3-4;
Why do people need to go to church and listen to preacher and pastor? When they can just read the Bible and interpret it themself. Saint or just example to lived by and preacher and pastor ate just interpret the book of god to the common people
@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff why people never stay on one topic and have to shift to another? Anyway it's very simple if you read your Bible(assuming you are christian). God created the church. God gave instruction about the tabernacle, about the temple, how to build the temple, about the law, about the sacrifice and about the levitic priest hood. Then all of this you learn that is a shadow of what to come, and that comes with Jesus Christ. He appoints his apostles, he appoints a new covenant, and he gives the Holy Spirit so that we can we be guided. Apostolic tradition is as important as the scriptures. The church was to be Whole, that what is the Catholic term comes from. He said that we have to be One as he and the Father is One. He does not want division, but unity. Because a house against another cannot stand. Thus, we should conform to what the church say and not make our own interpretations. Because everyone makes his own interpretation, and not all interpretation can be correct. Some people interpret for their own gain or desires. That's how we ended up with protestantism and a million denominations. So do you think that Jesus made a promise and he will not keep it?
@@francescoaccomando7781 Mary is just as righteous as I am, her name is well known in heaven and so is mine, every being in heaven is excited that she is there and every being in heaven is excited that I am on the way there, nobody is more righteous than another, that is not biblical
@@francescoaccomando7781 The RCC is not even considered a part of the body of Christ by those of us who are born again, we do not know what it is, you are incorrect about why we have all of the denominations, the answer is found in the word of God,
🎉 Sacrifice 🎉 Edit for context (since Prots typically don't know this): Sacrifice is the highest form of worship proper only to God. See: Cain & Abel, Noah after the flood, fire of God on Elijah's altar (defeating the many cries of the false prophets of baal), etc. Hence why true examples of Idolatry contain sacrifices: gold to the baal in Exodus, infants to molech, etc. See also: Collyridianism wherein bread was offered to Mary (sacrifice). Guess which Church authoritatively put a stop on that? The Catholic Church.
Make sure you got the facts right and actually read about what Catholics believe with the Scriptural justification for everything we do before you keep eating the propaganda and lies being spoon fed to you
The whole "cakes to the queen of heaven" bit is just gold, first because it's a stupid analogy that ignores how the Gospel of Matthew deliberately depicts Mary in royal terms, and also because I have never seen anybody offer cakes to Mary.
I grew up with the most Mary loving people, Mexicans, and never saw any of this either. Even when I was an atheist I just saw it as celebrating Jesus' mom because, duh, I'd want my mom respected by all if I was a leader of some kind. The whole "Catholics worship Mary" feels more and more like a cope to me, I feel like it gets pulled out when all other arguments against the church fail lol. I roll my eyes even hearing it these days.
@@xbox360hurley4 look at these prayers to Mary and tell me honestly if this isn't putting Mary in the place of God: Morning Prayer to Mother Mary: "My queen, my mother, I offer myself to you. And to show my devotion to you, I offer you this day, my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve. Wherefore, good Mother, as I am your own, Keep me, guard me as thy property and possession." Prayer to Mother Mary for Protection: "We fly to your protection, most holy Mother of God; please listen to our petitions and needs, and deliver us from all dangers, ever glorious and blessed Virgin Mary." Act of Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary: "O most pure heart of Mary, full of goodness, show your love towards us. Let the flame of your heart, O Mary, descend on all people. We love you im- mensely. Impress on our hearts true love so that we may long for you..." A Prayer to the Heart of Mary: "...Take under your protection the Holy Catholic Church; defend it,and be always its consolation, its asylum and its invincible fortress against every assault of its enemies...Be our help in our wants, our relief under afflictions, our comfort in temptations, our refuge in persecutions, and our support in all dangers;" Seek to know the true Creator, wherever it leads you.
@@xbox360hurley4 Nice deflection! Just because you do not practice "cake giving" does nothing to erase every other accusation of idolatry that was given that exists IN EVERY ROMAN CATHOLIC cult!
So grateful when I was 10 mom got saved and we left the catholic church. It's creepy to me how many people who are returning to that religion. Every practice goes totally against scripture.
Such prayers or acts may be accompanied by specific requests for Mary's intercession with God. Devotion to the Virgin Mary does not, however, amount to worship - which is reserved for God.
We don't worship/venerate the statue but the person depicted in the statue. Even government leaders bow down before statues of national heroes because they honor not the statue, but person depicted in the statue, same for Catholics. We venerate the heros of the Christian faith who offered their lives to God. Even Martin Luther says that "We will honor Mary as she said in the Magnificat" he also added, "how come we cannot do it?" (Sermon about the Magnificat 1517).
I am an ex Catholic. The Lord graciously opened my eyes. To pray to someone, be it Mary or Saints , to trust in that person you pray to to help you with whatever difficulty or request is putting them in God's place. We are only to trust in God. Pray to God. And that honor and respect and trust is only to be given to God. No one else.
@@randycarson9812 There is no basis for the comparison. Dead people don't have any influence on the living, so how can you be asking a dead woman to pray for you? If you think otherwise, please provide suitable biblical references. What catholics are doing is simply idolatry and demon worship, and it is a gross sin in the sight of the Lord. On the other hand, asking people to pray for the sick is scriptural as it means the living can intercede, on behalf of the sick, to God for healing.
Since according to the cc, it is the only way to be saved: then, who needs John 3:16 or acts4:12 or who even needs the bible? The whole world needs to get on the catholic church bandwagon for salvation..
@@randycarson9812 if is a common word used by people that live in the past: like a Monday morning quaterback: I live here and now as the Lord allows; does not mean that I don't acknowledge the past, as the bible says; "JESUS CHRIST, THE SAME YESTERDAY TODAY AND FOREVER."
We absolutely do not worship Mary, we do not offer sacrifice to her like we do during the Mass to God. The true question is for 1500 years all Christians venerated Mary… the true question is when did you Protestants stop??? The major misconception about Catholics is that we have to go through Mary to get to God. The only way to get to our Father is through Jesus. Mary was the first Christian and she chose to follow Jesus before anyone else. As a mother I know the love a mother has for their child and what better way to love her son than through the eyes of his mother. But please don’t try to divide us Christian’s we are truly not that different and are all on the same team! Team Jesus 🙏🏼
You know I really wish that Protestants would understand the Bible in context and attempt to understand Catholic doctrine. We don’t worship Mary and all those things done to statues are out of respect for her. She is our beloved mother who is sinless she should always be held in high respect
what you just stated is ridiculous. I guarantee I know the Bible 10 times better than you having studied for 40 years and what I see in Catholicism according to scripture is nothing but heresy. You can't use the Bible to support what you do in your cult unless you try to misrepresent scripture. go ahead and try to use a scripture to support what you do and watch how somebody that actually knows the word of God annihilates your misrepresentation of the text.
@@dominicewing8940 yes I hate lies, deception, the twisting of scripture, idol worship, false doctrine, and so does God. don’t expect Him to turn a blind eye to the heresies espoused by catholicism. the catholic church is the one who attacks the bible, christianity, and the gospel, don’t get into a tizzy when we respond to your false allegations.
Catholicism is not a cult but I suppose everyone is entitled to their own views. No we do not worship Mary if you could please provide evidence for how we do that would be great
By definition worship means you have to believe something is a god , Mary isn't God but she honoured like you honour king Charles lll at Buckingham palace
So, are you saying that Shadrack, Meshack and Abednego could have bowed down to the golden image in order to save their skin if deep down they didn't believe the idol was a god?
In Revelation 19:10, John, the author of the book of Revelation, describes an encounter with an angel who appears to him in a vision. John falls at the angel’s feet to worship him, but the angel rebukes him, saying: “Do not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For it is the Spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus.” This passage highlights the importance of worshiping God alone, rather than any created being, including angels. The angel emphasizes that he is a fellow servant of God, along with John and others who hold to the testimony of Jesus, and that their worship should be directed towards God alone. The Spirit of prophecy, which is the Spirit of Jesus, is the one who bears witness to Jesus and is the ultimate authority in matters of faith.
@@Name-nq7tj bowing down has 2 meanings to worship or to honour, John in that vision is in heaven, in heaven bowing must mean worship and not honour and greetings like on earth.
@@iThinkBiblically King told them to bow down if the king said it was a god then that's a different story just like Pharaoh in Egypt he claimed to be god bowing down to the Pharaoh will be bowing down and worshipping a false god that would be idolatry. Catholics don't believe Mary is God nor does Mary claims to be God not idolatry , nor does king Charles the lll says his a god.
Well sir think again. 1: she isn’t in the Eucharist, it’s Jesus 2: there is no celebration of the mass for mary(like how we celebrate Christ passion at mass) 3: we never say all glory goes to you mary. But still why shouldn’t we pay respect to her as our holy and true mother, and queen of heaven. She went through so much sorrow during her life. Ima keep praying to her and kissing statues and paintings.
There are differences to people, unfortunately for Catholics there is none according to God who is not a respecter of persons. Blessed amongst men she may be.
Catholics are Christians and Catholicism is Christianity. Just as Eastern Orthodox, Lutherans, Oriental Orthodox, Methodist, Baptist, Anglican, etc are all Christians so too are Catholics.
Of course! What a nonsensical question. Those two things arent mutually exclusive. Considering it was the Early Church that compiled the canon of scripture, Catholics of course take Gods word seriously and with great importance.
@@LukeLovesRose the Catholic Church was the Early Church that compiled the canon of scripture in the 300s. The Catholic Church can also be thanked for preserving the scriptures through her deep efforts to keep it safe and create more copies through the work of Monks.
Ah silly Mr. iThinkBiblically… It’s an easy question! We don’t offer sacrifice to Mary as we do to God. Bowing, kissing, singing, seeking intercession, etc. aren’t inherently worship. Which is something you should know
"We don't pray to Mary. We don't worship her. Oh silly. We just ask Mary to pray for us, that's all." Morning Prayer to Mother Mary: "My queen, my mother, I offer myself to you. And to show my devotion to you, I offer you this day, my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve. Wherefore, good Mother, as I am your own, Keep me, guard me as thy property and possession." Prayer to Mother Mary for Protection: "We fly to your protection, most holy Mother of God; please listen to our petitions and needs, and deliver us from all dangers, ever glorious and blessed Virgin Mary." Act of Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary: "O most pure heart of Mary, full of goodness, show your love towards us. Let the flame of your heart, O Mary, descend on all people. We love you im- mensely. Impress on our hearts true love so that we may long for you..." A Prayer to the Heart of Mary: "...Take under your protection the Holy Catholic Church; defend it,and be always its consolation, its asylum and its invincible fortress against every assault of its enemies...Be our help in our wants, our relief under afflictions, our comfort in temptations, our refuge in persecutions, and our support in all dangers;" Seek to know the true Creator, wherever it leads you.
"We don't pray to Mary. We don't worship her. Oh silly. We just ask Mary to pray for us, that's all." Mary is dead, and necromancy is condemned in Scripture. Where is the example in Scripture to pray to the dead?
No one does. Tradition holds she was buried in Jerusalem, but her body, being assumed into heaven (like the Scriptures say of Enoch and Elijah), is no longer with us.
Is it idolatry to pray to Mary?  “Do you ever ask family or friends to say a prayer for you when you are sick or have problems?” he responded. “To ask the Mother of Jesus to intercede for us is not idolatry. In the Catholic Church - we believe like all Christians do - salvation through Jesus alone!25 Aug 2023
1 Timothy 2 King James Version 2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Luke 2:51-52 New International Version (NIV) Then he went down to Nazareth with them and was obedient to them. But his mother treasured all these things in her heart. And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man.
Not sure who “you” is, maybe fanatic individuals, but no Church authority has ever mandated or even recommended anyone to bow down to images of Mary, kiss them, burn incense to them, or praise them. We know that neither Mary nor images/representations of her are God. We honor her, as she is the mother of Jesus (God). Jesus gave her to us as our mother and us to her as her children when He was on the cross. We believe she is in heaven with God. And on the basis of the many verses about God hearing the prayers of the righteous, we dare ask her for her intercession, knowing that we could not possibly be holier than the woman who bore our Lord in her womb.
@@LetTheTruthBeTold8324 What I mentioned before, still stands, nobody has ever mandated those things, I can not find them, I as a devout Catholic, personally, don’t do them and would advise against that kind of relationship with any Saint. In response to your comment, I don’t think the angel Gabriel was being ridiculous in Luke 1:28.
@@alejandroreynaga3375worst things were mandated by popes than that my friend. It doesn't matter if it was mandated. It was tolerated. Rome said this is God's will. Was burning heretics God's will? Was the Bible being kept in latin and only handled by preists God's will? Was the inquisitions and Holy wars God's will? Genocide of indigenous people? Persecution of homosexuals? Where is any of that in scripture. I'll wait...
Did you know that demons during excorcist can't stand the very mention of the Virgin Mary? Every Catholic exorcist in existence has always carried a rosary when fighting demons. And I'm suppose to take this guy's advice 😂 who has no church who has no authority who has no supernatural miracles to back up his divine understanding of Scripture. Scripture that is coming from a Catholic book
@qualitypaversinc So demons shudder at the mention of the name of Mary? It sounds like you worship Mary and that means there is no place in heaven for you, I advise you to become born again and put away your idolatry and follow Jesus
@@johngraves9237 I was born again. Catholics call it confirmation. We are baptized as new borns into the family of Jesus. God has been with me my entire life. Please read Revelations chapter 12 and you will get a beautiful picture of the mother of God. John sees her in heaven wearing a crown 👑 on her head. A CROWN 👑 Read revelations 12 a few times and if you still believe that Mother Mary is no one then you are simply in denial my brother. Jesus honored her while dying on the cross. The Angel honered her when he greeted her. Elizabeth honored her when she had John the Baptist in her womb. Revelation 12 honors her. The Virgin de Guadalupe in Mexico is a supernatural miracle that defys the laws of this world. Along with the Virgin de las Lajas in Columbia and all the Marian miracles all throughout the globe. She is the greatest of all believers. The most humble and pure of all of us believers and Jesus Christ has placed her above all other humans. The rosary is a powerful prayer against evil in this world. And I can keep going on. The Virgin Mary is special. Hope one day your eyes open and you see the beauty of the mother that God chose to be introduced into our world.
Absurd date. The flourishing of Marian piety is clearly witnessed in the preceding century, and the essential doctrine of Mariology was widely diffused by the end of the second century.
@@hilairebelloc3368 Fact. Google it. Both the RCC and EOC began in 1054 AD, when the heads of both denominations excommunicated each other. Historical fact. Indisputable.
1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus," Your turn! What verse do you have that any man or dead "Saint" is a mediator between man and God in the New Covenant?
I know idolatry when I see it; one needs to be blinded by slick semantics and tickling ears to know the Catholic faith! (Notice how you say, the "Catholic faith" and not the "Christian faith!" Even you admit that you are not Christian!)
Jeremiah 7:18 "The children gather wood, the fathers kindle fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven, and they pour out drink offerings to other gods". Jeremiah 44:15-18 A large assembly of people, including men and women, tell Jeremiah that they will continue to burn incense and pour out drink offerings to the Queen of Heaven, despite his message
I don't worship Satan, I just pray to him, kiss the feet of his statue, tell him how awesome he is, and have totally devoted myself to him. Hail satan.
Wow, using satan as an analogy for the love we have for Mary. And then the last two words, I would not even say that if you paid me to. I would never even use those two words together, sarcastically. You should repent of your sins.
I once heard Catholic Preacher say that the true definition of worship is "Eucharist." Lol, as long as Jesus is bleeding on the cross, that's worship? And Mary glowing with a golden crown that's veneration?
Cool story, bro. Doesn't change the fact that the Roman Catholic Church held down Christianity for 1500 years and is the one and only apostolic church of Jesus Christ, who made Peter the Rock of the Church. The same Peter who eventually became the first pope. And I say all this as an atheist.
Yes, Roman Catholicism "held down" real Christianity for centuries! Even eliminating genuine Christianity through persecution and murder! You are no more "Christian" than an Islamic Jihadist!
How do you treat the Mother of God? God loves Her .... and you should too. Don't you love your biological mother? Do you kiss or look at a photo of your mom if she's far away or you miss her? Do you sing to your mom? You could give things a different perspective. Also... never have heard of the cakes.... where did you read that? I highly recommend that you read the Catechism of the Catholic Church founded by Jesús Himself.
I don't bow down to my mum or bow to statues and images of her, I don't burn incense to her or pray to her in front of a statue and I don't sing unto her like unto a god.
What are the three types of worship in the Catholic Church? Adoration - to praise and worship God. Confession - to come to God and say sorry. Intercession - to pray for the needs of others.
No, God says that you are going to hell for your idolatry, necromancy, superstition and failure to give God alone your worship. A false Gospel is no Gospel at all! Next!
Catholics who know their stuff would admit to worship. It's just a "different" kind of worship. They say latria is reserved to God, but hyperdulia is for Mary and dulia for saints. The bible doesn't make such distinction. I've seen Catholics worship Mary in every manner they worship God, or at least who they think is God. I'm a former Catholic. I used to wear a scapular, do the rosary and divine mercy, altar boy, k of c , all sacraments but holy orders, and VERY involved in my parrish
I was shocked to discover the Greek Orthodox do as well.They have images of her that supposedly issue "miracles". That's pretty scary. Can you please give attention to this error too???😢
Who needs a pope? We only need Jesus he is the only way to the father how dare anyone compare Peter a man who walked with Christ to a Pope?! That's disgusting 🤢🤮
Everything you said that Catholics do to Mary, is also done on the reg to everyday people and no one bats an eye. In Japan people bow to each other. In America we build statues of presidents. All over the world we celebrate and honor heroes. In every country we sing praises of other people. Just listen to the radio.
The difference is that Catholics only worship God as the Infinite Source of Love & Mercy. They do not worship Mary as God. They do pray to her though. Worship is true Sacrifice, just as the Israelites sacrificed lambs to God, now Catholics offer to the Father the Lamb of God on their behalf as the Sacrifice for the world. Catholics would never do this with Mary
Paganism cast a spell on the practitioner. They never realize that they are into idoltary. Not all Catholics worship Mary, but Catholic doctrine teaches the worship of Mary. Obviously they use different terminologies to describe the act of worship. It's like driving a car and saying u are not driving it, u are just controlling the movement.
Do Catholics worship God or Jesus? Catholics worship the One and Only God, who is the Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.) He is ONE God, in three divine Persons, and his name is YHWH or Yahweh. The second Person of this Trinity (the Son) came to earth and took on humanity. His name is Yes
What is the difference between adoration and veneration? between veneration (veneratio, douleia) and adoration (adoratio, latreia). Veneration is defined as a proper attitude toward saints, whereas adoration is applicable only in connection with God.
Is there a difference between veneration and worship? The underlying assumption here is that the act of veneration is an act of worship. But this is not necessarily true. The word veneration simply means to give great respect or reverence. The respect and reverence that Catholics give to sacred objects is not of the same kind of respect or reverence given to God.
Still no reply still not up for taking this online about the Catholic faith if you’ve solid in what you believe them take me up we will do a live RU-vid section let audience decide and I mean this with humility, it amazes me how the Catholic Church gets ridiculed but no one will take the challenge, maybe it’s fear that holds one back only the lord himself and the individual knows
If Catholics don’t worship Mary, can you explain the difference between parading and bowing down to her statue the same way some Hindu or Buddhist would? Pope Francis told priests, nuns and seminarians that one way to make sure Jesus is the center of their lives is to ask "his mother to take you to him. A priest, a brother, a nun who does not love Mary, who does not pray to her -- I would even say one who does not recite the rosary -- well, if you don't love the mother, the mother will not give you the Son." Last time I checked the Bible said For God so loved the world, that He GAVE us His only begotten Son. Mary didn’t even exist before Christ.
Great question. Idolatry has always been a sin inside the heart and never coming directly as a cause of others outside ourselves but influencing us to temptation which is why the Lord tells us evil thoughts within are what defile us. That being said, yes it is easy to slide into idolatry these days as we all do whether we realize it or not with even our phones and social media and make God second place and anything else first which is the definition of idolatry as a sin. Now do you know what worship entails? Worship demands a sacrifice dating back to Old Testament times and before with sacrificing the blood of the lambs with Jesus being the Lamb of God called that for a reason. Having a big jam session singing and not understanding what worship is not biblical even in the times of Abraham worshipping God with obedience and killing a ram instead of his son Issac. Catholicism has got it right in that we sing and praise the Lord while offering up the bread and wine as a sacrifice Jesus commanded his apostles to do in the Gospels with emphasis on John and Luke that the Lord himself says is his Body and Blood being offered as a sacrifice which we eat and drink each Mass. Everything else is veneration compared to Jesus since no sacrifices are made to saints or Mary.
The rosary is prayed to reflect upon the life of Jesus and Scriptures that each Mystery is based on while reciting Scriptures in the prayers of the “Our Father” and the “Hail Mary” which is in Luke 1 and the woman in the crowd exclaiming “blessed is the womb that bore you.” The first miracle Jesus ever did was at the petition of his mother to honor her as his mother the 4th commandment tells us to do. To say that Jesus had no mother means that he was not fully human and thus his death meant nothing in the cross as God fulfilled his promise in Genesis in that the offspring of Eve and Adam would defeat the Devil and conquer sin. Now I get where you are coming from in that it’s a mystery in itself how God can fully be Divine and yet still take in our human nature fully without being part of sin and evil to this very moment.
@@Justyouraverageguy172 Jesus said the greatest commandment You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. What He was saying is He wants to be put first. We are to love him more than our spouse, our family, our job. Even Mary. Not once in the Bible did Jesus ever give Mary precedence over anyone. Not even the disciples. In fact not once did He ever talk about her to His disciples. Why is it that whenever she was around, no one ever gave her any praise or special treatment? It’s not like they didn’t know who she was. Even a woman once shouted out to Jesus saying Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you."Luke 11:27 Jesus could’ve easily agreed to what she was saying But he said, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!". Remember Jesus actually has full authority over Mary. He CAN say no to Mary. Even though Catholics believe He never would.
@@Justyouraverageguy172 why do Catholics always give praise to Mary when Jesus performed His first miracle? All she did was relay a message. Mary didn’t know what He was going to do. She didn’t demand Him to do something. He did it because He compassion on her. Not because He loved her more than anyone else. Jesus loved everyone the same. Not once did He ever give her any special treatment just because she was His earthly mother.
@@dionoramYou answer your own question if you about “Mary not getting any special treatment” when you look at it again in pieces and read it. The Scriptures are about God, Jesus, and our relationship to Him for salvation and not Mary. The only times we do see Mary emphasize important Truths such as Jesus telling apostle John when he dies on the Cross in John’s Gospel behold your mother and behold your son thus affirming the Catholic tradition and teachings on Mary since she is our spiritual mother and God our father. Jesus came to fulfill the Law thus that means the 10 Commandments as well as everything. For your second question, the Wedding at Cana relays the role of Mary importantly in that is what Mary does is lead those who ask her for help to her son and thus as the Mother of God. Mary is called the “Theotokos” meaning the “God Bearer” for a reason in that she is both Jesus’s earthly mother but also the Mother of God. Nestorianism is the heresy that just says Mary gave birth to Jesus on earth but is not the Mother of God. The early Church community was very clear that Mary is of special significance in that she is fully human and not divine yet perfect and fully bore God in human form fulfilling God’s promise to Eve and Adam in Genesis to defeat Satan through their human offspring while still being God.
Please find out what worship means. What are his conditions. Perhaps then you will realize that the true biblical worship of God is missing in your denomination. And that there is a huge difference between worship and veneration.
That’s why Roman Catholicism removes the second commandment: Exodus 20 4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
