Tried all 3 last week, I live in Japan. They all felt great, especially the 221. I now play the 919 forged, can't say there was any difference in feel, but I'm thinking of changing just for the looks. They rounded the top of the toe on these so the edge looks smaller. The Mizuno Pro logo has pretty much always been used in Japan on those exclusive models for Japan.
How much loft adjustments were needed for your combo set and jump to HMB? I have MP18 MBs pw-8 and SCs 6-4. Going to upgrade this year probably to 223/225 combo, but you have me intrigued with the blades to HMB idea and the aesthetics would be more seamless going 221/225.
I tested the 221 today and it’s BEAUTIFUL to hit! And I completely agree you get instant feedback when you miss the sweet spot! But I really liked them 👍🏻
Just got the mizuno pro 223 and so happy with this purchase. They look soo nice and they feel so pure. Also for me it was a massive upgrade as I was using 712 AP1’s
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Nice video Michael. All three look really lovely clubs. Great design, but that what is expected from Mizuno. It would need to be the 225 for me, as it is best suited to my abilities. The 221 should be in a glass case, so pretty.
Wonderful reviews as usual. I'm not enough of a golfer for these but for those that are good enough to use these thwy could be considered a reward for your efforts. BEAUTIFUL!
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Efficiency between 223 and 225 is identical. 223 much higher spin. I found the exact same thing at my fitting...went in thinking 225 was the club, but left with a new set of 223s. Beautiful irons.
225s offer any extra forgiveness for you though when testing them? I was thinking 223s PW-6. I could probably use a little extra forgiveness and distance with the 5 and 4 in the 225s.
@@1025theo I got 223s PW-6 and 225s 5-4. 223s feel better. 223s are made from the same material as the 221s in the PW-8 (1025e) so they are very buttery. Then you can feel the tech come in at the 7 (chromoly) with the feeling of the ball coming off faster. 225s still feel really good but you feel less. The 223s vs 225s feel similar in the 7 iron. 225s are super forgiving in distance if you miss hit in the lower grooves.
@@Mjwest23 how are these bad boys working out? I'm considering switching from my 2018 Apex MBs to the Pro Series Mizunos. Considering the Fli-Hi 3, 225 4 and 5is, and 223s up. No way this doesn't work out if i do my job, right?
Why ? If you’re playing well with the 921’s don’t fall for the marketing. If any of the makes or models was significantly better don’t you think the top tour players would all be playing them ?
I tried all 3. If you can hit the 223 you can hit the 221 and for me it’s so much better in terms of feel….221s are surprisingly forgiving. 223s have jacked up lofts and look like a Ping 210. Bit big too for a players iron. I’m coming from a T100 and size wise very similar to 221. The biggest improvement are the 225s….looks great and a pure distance set. Competes with 770s and 790s… but better feel.
just bougt a set of 221's with the Project X LZ 6.0 and they are GLORIOUS! I will be putting keeping the 4 /5 iron in the closet and using my T Made 770 for a mixed set
Same, I'm excited for this line. I have the MP18 blades in PW-8, SC 7-4. I like how the 223s are essentially the blades in the PW-8. Might consider 225s for 5 and 4. Could use the little extra pop of the 223s in the mid-top part of the bag 👍 Did you fit for yet? How'd it go?
Gaming JPX-921 Forged/Tour mix set now but have ordered 225’s 2-5 iron, 223’s 6-PW. Very excited to get them. I’ve played a lot of different irons over the years, Mizuno are the best IMHO
@@1025theo sensational, softer than the MP20s IMO, a lot more fun and easier to hit. They are just an all round Better club for me and for the level I play at.. hdcap 3/4
@@BuffaloBarber24 hi mate, wow I can’t believe this conversation was over a year ago, anyways… I was going through a club change around this time and just fell in love with how the mizunos felt off the face, lovely clubs to hit, however, after hitting numerous clubs for around 2-3months, i sided with the titleist T100s, if you haven’t hit them, I advise you to give them a whirl, they are better than the 223s which for me to say that, they must be good as I’m a mizuno lover, but yeah the T100s, I couldn’t find a fault. Easy to hit, forgiving, straight I found, easier to shape, I’ll stick with these for the next 5 years. I’m hitting the ball better than I ever have, i put it down to how these irons make me feel over the ball, which is confident.
Great video Mike. All 3 of those irons look absolutely superb. Was thinking about fitting for the 921 Forged but now really thinking about trying the 223 or even 225.
Beauties. Id be blending between the the sets. when I get to my long irons, that little bit of ball speed and launch from either the 223 or 225 might just set my gapping up.
I originally bought the JPX 923 HM Pros, thinking I’d be better off with a little more help and forgiveness…but, they are just too chunky for my likings…got re-fitted and wound up in the 221s…shocked how much better I hit them, though not as far as the 923 HMPs…but, the difference between the good and bad shots isn’t as big as the 923 HMPs….and even off center hits feel pretty good, unlike blades of yore that would sting the hands…
How would you compare the forgiveness of the 223s to the JPX 921 Tours? As a lefty the 223s are my only option here, and they look excellent. I’d love a compact head similar to my JPX 921 SEL set (that’s the lefty 4/5 Forged, 6-GW Tour blend from last year), with just a touch more forgiveness. I’m pretty consistent and have loved the 921s, but a heel-side miss or a thin one creeps in every once in a while.
Nice review...well done. I'm about to go through fitting, but was excluding Mizuno as an option. With these new models and your review, I'm now going to bring Mizuno in as a 4th option. Curious as to why the 225's were being pulled as much as they were, as I'm in the market for that end of the line...thanks
I got the 225’s GW - 3i, now waiting for the 221’s PW - 7i. Will either carry both 8i’s or both 7i’s. The 225’s are so strong lofted that I now take 8i for 175 yards (as it’s really a 7i). I miss the forged feel around the green, I play a lot of PW - 8i partial shots & the 225 lofts confuse my short game.
I have the MP20 MMC’S. Since these received the biggest facelift, is there any chance of a comparison to the new 223’s? Would like to see what the differences are. Great video!
Hi Michael, always loved your videos. I’m gaming the MP69 now, I find the Pro 221 looks very similar to the MP69, just wondering how much difference in performance will the Pro 221 yield. Would be great if you can comment or do a comparative video if possible.
The best feel in the business! But why oh why do Mizuno continue to come up short for us lefties? I know it's economics, but all the other big manufacturers cater better to both sides. A combo lefty set of the 225 and 223 irons would have been a nice comparison to Callaway Apex Pro/Apex combos. Oh well back to the drawing board!
Nice review, Michael! They're just insanely gorgeous...all of 'em. I'm a slower-swinging low handicap, and irons are the biggest weakness in my game, so I might just wait for the next Hot Metal offering! But I could probably game that 225. The soles on the 223 and 225 look great - the relief and the beveled back edge. That's going to hit the sweet spot for a lot of players - sweepers and diggers alike.
No idea whether to get the 221 or just a used set of MP20 blades. Mizuno blades hardly change over the years. Owned TP-9 and MP4 and Mp20 for about 4 days on loan, and hit the 221 yesterday. All, I know is that I keep going back to them hahaha. Just no idea what to stick with. Usually older blades aren't looked after well.
Michael, I currently have a combo set of the MP20’s 4-9 iron. Have you tested the 225 2 iron?? I’m thinking of adding this to my bag and if it’s better than the Fli Hi model
221 every day of the week for me not looking for distance I'm looking for precision in shot making Mp20 I thought were glorious & still play them 221 ummm
I got fitted for 223s and mizuno is my dream iron but i guess i cant order them custom fit anymore i was told. Im a 8-12ish handicap would it be dumb to just get 221s?
I don’t know why this is, but I’ve used recently, what I would call, players irons, not tour irons. Examples are Apex, PXG P type, etc. They are really easy to hit but I am simply not accurate with them at all. When I go back to playing my old MP14s or PXG 0211 blades, I lose distance, thereby having to use the next iron up, but my ball striking gets a lot better. Do any of the commenters here have that same issue. A friend of mine says it’s a focus issue. He says I tend to really pay attention when I use blades, and when I use a club with forgiveness, I get sloppy on the swing. Anyone else have this issue?
Dunno if that layer of copper is worth paying what they are. The mp18's felt great and they had no copper. Feels a bit gimmicky... The copper wear mark people like just makes them look more worn, more quickly as well.
@@MichaelNewtonGolf Mizuno is like crack, Michael.....like crack I tell you. I hit the MP18s, and didn't feel they felt better than my MP69s, do my instructor used that time to fit me into Project X LZ's in 6.5....that was 3 years ago....didn't try the MP20s, but sweet xmas these look and sound good.
The 223 Model seems to have a non aesthetically pleasing triangular after thought on the cavity back . .. . . . Quality irons , compact shape will appeal . . .. . Excellent shaft & grip options , DNA technology and fitting is class . . .
HMB’s are not strong lofted like the new 225 so Michael your wrong. HMB 7 iron is 32 like the 223 is and HMB PW is 46 which is weak by todays standards.
@@Obbanfield I am Taking about MP 20 HMB’s. Michael mentioned they were strong lofted. They’re not . Mp 20 HMB is 32 degree 7 iron. Same as THIS YEARS 223. So the previous HMB isn’t strong lofted as stated .
The price of these clubs is laughable!....seems like golf manufacturers have gone back to the daft prices of the nineties when everything was overpriced. We then had a period when prices were much more realistic.......that seems over now.
Way overpriced if PXG can sell a premium iron for £80 an iron then so can Miizuno - The are nearer £200 - PXG have built a desirable brand at a high end price that has made the brand top end - then dropped the price back to prices from 7/8 years ago - all the other brands have been caught out and PXG will go from a niche high end supplier to a market dominant company - absolute genius by them
All set with mizunos. Nice but overrated. You can still be great and overrated. Lots of great irons available from many companies. Titleist, Wilson’s and Ben hogans being my favorite
Hopefully you'll take this constructively. Please try and stop saying, "sort of". Makes it hard to watch your videos when you say that every 20 seconds throughout. Also, acoustic doesn't have a 'y' in the middle of it!
