I had someone pull a knife on me on the train and attempt to cut my throat. He understood violence, but I understood framing (thanks Ramsey and hardtohurt). As he was psyching himself up to inflict violence, I saw him fumbling in his pocket. I live in Australia so my immediate thought was "knife" not "gun". I know from watching Dewey's videos that even if I were trained beyond a little karate when I was a kid, that my chances of not getting cut are very low, maybe 1 in 10. I'm in the doorway, figure he'll come straight at me, so i step as close as possible to the glass barrier to my left, to frame him out of anything horizontal because he's using his right hand. This allowed me to force him to be more predictable and let me intercept his hand on the way in. Leaving me unharmed instead of dead. A properly trained fighter can understood framing far better than I. From this, my takeaway is that a trained fighter can do this but way better if there are "no rules" "tha streets" just gives a trained fighter more ways to exploit their training and knowledge. Such as with framing with objects and structures. So if anything, they're going to have an even bigger advantage because they understand these concepts of fighting even better.
Basically the irony of the utmost and most absolute real situation and that requires the most competence being instead turned into an imaginary ground where fantasy, bs and ''no rules, and quirky strikes/grappling moves are the way'' rule. No wonder that, in fact, reality sees street fights as... pure messes that either get broke up quickly or finish in a very random and not-so-''real fighting'' way.
I can top that. During the early part of the pandemic I had a crazy lady in a Walmart spaz out at me calling me parts of the human anatomy after my mini handcart accidentally bumped into her. I apologized profusely but to no avail. To use a Seinfeld-ism she was like an oversensitive, out of control car alarm in the middle of that aisle. Wahhhhh-wahhhhh-wahhhhh!!! I decided that an attempt of an uchimata or my single leg to knee tap takedown would be a slight overreaction under the circumstances and decided to just walk away instead. 😉. She was still going off like a car alarm. Wahhhhh-wahhhh-wooo-wooo-eeeee-ahhhhh-eeeeee-ahhhh. So I know violence. I've been to Walmart!
Your fighting potential is determined by strength and awareness. Situational awareness, anatomical awareness, etc. Strength is needed to be fast, if you're not strong you can't be fast, because speed is a function of power. If you're not aware you can't use your strength, because you can't direct it.
I've practiced martial arts for fifteen years. I lived in Flint and non violently repelled two home invasions. I've talked my way out of at least seven bar fights. I carry a pistol most days. I still struggle with the question of will I prevail in a street fight because like coach, I don't understand violence. I hope I never do.
That's super impressive, for what it's worth I'd say you're 9-0 and have shown skills far greater than if you actually fought those people. Wishing you all the best!
Why does every tough guy on the internet claim to live in Flint? Been living here twenty years and I've never had any violent encounters. Most people in Flint just want to be left alone and go about their business. Even if that's stealing catalytic converters.
As an older man who boxed and did stupid things as a young man. Fighting is pain. You’re going to be hurt. But someone trained in anything is better equipped than one who is not.
@Slavery is Freedom, War is Peace meth addicts have other problems that make fighting difficult lol, not a good trade off. Source: I worked at a safe injection site as a security guard and saw some of the funniest fights possible. One time a guy pulled a knife on me and accidentally dropped it lmao
On a more serious note. There are many levels and facets to violence. A high-school fist fight is violence. A person beating their child or spouse is violence. Two cage fighters going at it under the lights and cameras is violence. A soldier shooting someone in combat is violence. Etc etc. Don't mistake knowing or understanding one little bit of it for the whole bloody gem.
@@scottmacgregor3444 exactly what I thought when I read that. As if to say breaking jaws fracturing occipital bone, arms legs hands feet ribs etc. isn’t a violent act…..☠️👻☠️👻
I agree. There definitely are different types and levels of violence. None of them are pretty... but at least organized fights are voluntary, legal, have referees... and will generally deliver you to a hospital if you get seriously inured ( which may very well happen ). The rest of the forms of violence... not so much.
@@hightttech It is regulated and it is consensual, but it's still dudes beating the shit out of each other. The purpose isn't to cause harm or kill, it's to subjugate and assert superiority with minimal losses for yourself. I'd say "duel" is appropriate.
I understand, I'm 6 ft and a lean 200 lbs and have trained in boxing and grappling off and on for 20 years. Half of my family probably thinks they would destroy me because they "blackout" when they get mad.
People say that because of envy, they don't want to feel weaker than you, so they try to encourage themselves saying stuff like that and try to put you down at the same time. That happens with narcissistic people that want to feel superior to you (and it's the opposite, but you have to recognize those signals) Great video Ramsey!! Greetings from Argentina 🖐️
In one of my first stickfights with the Dog Brothers, I landed a hard vertical downward strike on my opponent’s shoulder, damaging their clavicle. I actually felt pretty bad about it in the moment. I’m friends with the guy on Facebook, so over the period of like a year, he’d occasionally post status updates on how his shoulder rehab was going, and every time I’d feel so bad that I inflicted an injury that took that long to heal (if it ever did entirely). When I got into it I thought the hard part was going to be getting hurt myself, not hurting someone else. I learned that even though I’ve trained a long time, I don’t actually like hurting people much.
I live in South Africa, an extremely violent country with a lot of guns and knives. I used to be a paramedic so saw all types violence inflicted on people. Being physically adept increases your chances of surviving a violent attack but strong men are more likely to the victim of an attack. When they break in they often go straight for the male and shoot him. Sometimes women get raped and sometimes babies get put in ovens but violence on men is most common because they are a threat ie might have a gun. A friend of mine is currently fighting for his life in hospital with multiple stab wounds from a house robbery. #ComeVisitSouthAfrica
@@muaythaibachatero393 I was also actual SA EMT equivalent but most people I speak to don't know what that is (easier to say paramedic). SA really cool for EMS because with all the lawlessness and low education you get experience treating the craziest stuff. I think it is easy for wealthier South Africans to turn a blind eye to the violence because they have high walls, electric fences, Guard dogs, guns, full time security guards, etc. In EMS I saw crazy shit daily but now I only hear of murders and extreme violence every so often. besides my friend that got stab multiple times a week ago. last I heard was my neighbor was robbed and murdered about 3 months ago. So doesnt seem that often if you dont hear about.
Just want to say what you are doing is Important!!, but living and working under this kind off circumstances, (i hope you have a gun, not when you work , but otherwise, i´m not a gun nut but you got to addapt, my country is "pretty" safe but getting worse., at home) and that police have secured the location you are going to work in.
@@danieljonsson7629 There have actually been incidents with medics carrying guns on the job because they get sent into very dangerous areas. There have been cases of fake calls then they rob the medics for the drugs and equipment. For all those people wanting to "defund" the police just come live in South Africa, our police force is near non existent, except to bribe and fine the wealthy.
Let me phrase it slightly different: You don't want to have to use a weapon. Take it from a very pro 2a gun nut, I don't want to shoot people. That being said. I've been in scenarios where a weapon was a necessary aspect of the encounter. I've known many a veteran who served in just about every branch of the united states military. They all say essentially the same thing: you don't want to have to use the gun. If you can, diffuse the situation, if not try not to take their life. If the job must be done and only then, should you use a weapon. Its not only to save their life, but also yours.
Exactly I don’t want to shoot anyone either but now in todays times these criminals really test you! They would die trying to rob you and hurt you as they rob you. Criminals were given a survey in prison and close to 90% said that they would injure or kill their victims provoked or unprovoked. You have to understand the criminal mind also not just violence.
Being a HEMA practitioner in the southern US, the amount of people saying "Oh, well I'd just shoot you if you tried to stab me"... Well, for one, read the first letter - guns weren't too popular in the 1500s, not on the streets lol. But even so, there's the 20 foot rule, the fact that you're not gonna be able to get to your gun fast enough if I'm 5 feet away and start wrestling you in all likelihood. Even in the old treatises, the masters brought up "friendly" and "unfriendly" techniques in the same book. Showing a reverse collar tie? Oh, if it's unfriendly, you can just elbow them in the throat. Not a massively different movement. Cross-facing? Yeah, gouge the eyes if the dude is trying to kill you. Knees to the stomach can become knees to the groin. Same with inside leg kicks. Jabs, straight rights, ridgehands, etc. can all just hit a dude in the throat instead of the face. Oh, you're a submission grappler? Great, the other dude doesn't GET to tap! Combative movements don't change dramatically going from friendly competition or sport to life or death situations. If they do, your martial art is probably martial arts and crafts.
I realize that the goal is to NOT get shot... and you may well succeed at that. Another thing to realize is that even if you DO get shot you're not going to just instantly stop and die. Unless you get shot in the head or maybe the heart, with your training... I think you still have pretty good chance of winning that fight. What happens afterward... that's another story. Just sayin' getting shot doesn't mean your loose. Likewise if you are unlucky enough to have to shoot someone in CQB, don't assume that they will stop... because they probably won't. There are many things I'm over looking here. I'm just talking about one tiny piece of the whole puzzle which simply is: getting shot doesn't mean that you stop or that you loose.
@@hakachukai Yeah, that's also an important thing to remember. Even in the 1500s, duels had to have men at arms to stop people from killing eachother (dueling to the death was largely prohibited) because people would keep fighting after they'd been stabbed or cut really badly. There's one account of a rapier duelist who got stabbed, won the duel by killing the other guy, then died himself minutes later.
@@moonsdonut5188 I would if any of their treatises survived and were translated! We have about a page or so of historical Greek wrestling from the year ~200.
Speaking like a person that has never been in a " life or death situation". Your brain doesn't work the same in an actual dangerous situation, you can train as much as you want but someone pulls a knife at you there is a good chance you just get down to your instincts because of adrenalin and panic. Even highly skilled mma fighters start throwing haymakers and completely forgetting how to fight when they get into altercations outside of the ring. Most people will avoid killing the attacker even when armed and having to put a knife into someone's chest and kill someone even when you are being attacked is something a few people will ever be capable of doing. And people that are willing to do such a thing are usually sociopath's. this reason most criminals will use drugs to help them undermine this basic human instinct.
Man, I understand the long term ramifications of violence. Ramsey. I ended up in a cell on Christmas night and I didn't even strike anyone. You did an entire video on it. People who say "There are no rules on the street" are quickly reminded of just how many rules on the street there really are. Specially when they're sat having to explain your actions to the two arresting officers in an interview room at 04:00 on a cold Boxing Day morning, when I should have been in a nice warm bed with my wife.
The police are the biggest threat to life and liberty in this country. Thugs are nothing, pigs are trained funded and organized to spread terror on the citizenry
Every time this question comes up, I feel like something gets missed in the answer - why do you care? As a martial artist, why do you care if someone thinks you aren't a good street fighter? For me, the greatest psychological benefit of martial arts is that they demystified violence. They allowed me to give up the young man's obsession with street fights and the like. My advice to this guy would just be to recognize what's going on in those conversations: when people talk about The Streets like that, they're treating violence as a symbol of their strength, status, and worth. You don't need to participate in that. For you, violence can just be a skill you train at for fun, nothing more. Let them puff their chests out, maybe invite them to a class some time, live and let live.
Bcs they're wrong and I like correcting ppl that are wrong and I like it more the more drunk I get. Besides it's not ppl thinking I'm not effective in a fight, it's ppl thinking that their untested tricks would work.
I can understand this question coming from a young man, I had trouble arguing it myself. I suppose my answer to my younger self is most people who say this kind of stay are full of crap and are just trying to one up you and that a trained fighter would do far better than someone who is not.
I had a judo instructor who learned young (because his father was a judoka) and did get in a few fights while young and he said that judo was extremely useful because, in da streetz, your biggest problem is usually how to not injure people so that they're aren't major legal consequences to the fight. Eg the time a woman was hitting on him turned out to be married and her husband was nearby and got angry and jumped on him - he ran over to the grass to throw the guy off so he wouldn't break his head on the concrete.
This is so true. Like I said in my comment for this video, I had to place someone in a wrist lock when they tried to stab me, and the hardest part was not injuring them, so I would not get in trouble with the law. Oh, and here in California you can get in trouble for injuring someone trying to end you. Dumb, but true.
Ground fighting is not good really in a street fight. Most times you fight in the street you are mostly outnumbered, not always. So in that case you go to the ground you are only able to take down one person at a time. By the time you finish your first opponent others would have jumped you while you are on the ground with kicks and stomps and punches, let’s not mention weapons like bottles for example. One on one ground fighting in the street you will win, If you get out numbered you will get jumped. If anyone actually manages to actually get the upper hand and win is just an exception to the rule, in most cases ground fighting will not be effective in that scenario.
I've had a few street fights in my life, I come from a boxing background both competing and training. In my last street fight I knocked an angry meth addict out cold with a left hook. At the time people around me were happy as he was causing trouble at the train station for others too. He was out cold though and landed hard on concrete, all I could think was "please wake up" and "will I be arrested?". I felt sick to my stomach and decided never again am I fighting on da streets! I still feel sick thinking about it now? Last year my GF said "you might know boxing but the streets are different!" I had to summon all my strength not to scream "I've beaten people unconcious on the streets and in the ring! Do you think the karate you did is somehow gonna help your 110 pound ass in a fight?". But I didn't I just smiled and said "sure thing your right!". Hopefully she never has to see me in a real streetfight because I'm sure it will make her feel that sickness in her stomach I once felt! Bottom line - violence is ugly and brutal and people die or end up brain damaged by it everyday! Avoid it at all cost! If you feel unsafe walking the streets and wanna be left alone get a bull mastiff to walk with you! You'll be left alone!
When I was about 12 or 14, I found an old metal baseball bat in a junk pile and took it home. Just from swinging it around, feeling the momentum of the weight, I realized I knew enough about violence that the only way I could hit someone with it was if I was forced into such a deadly situation that I didn't have time to think about what I was doing, and probably didn't even mean to do it. Maybe there's some deep down part of my brain that recalls being a monkey and grabbing a rock, stick, or *anything* to fend off a tiger, but I don't know how to call upon it at a whim. I've never hit anything with it, let alone a human head, but I know there's enough strength in my body to bat someone's head off with that thing. I just don't think there's enough strength in my brain to do it.
I'm sorry that you have had to see the horrors of the world that you have seen. I'm a firefighter and I've seen it. It sticks with you and I am genuinely sorry that you've had to see it.
Thank you for posting this Ramsey. I work as a criminal defense attorney and I have represented people who got in fights and faced legal consequences for their actions. All the way down to older high school kids ages 15 to 17, who got charged as adults. The general rule in the state I practice is is, the maximum penalties go up with the severity of the injury. Here is my take on the conduct and how it might get charged, though how it actually gets charged depends on the police officers on scene and how they perceive the situation, the previous record of the defendant, and the discretion of the prosecutor. Just as an aside, self defense is an affirmative defense, so you need to assert it at trial if the police and prosecutor don't believe you. Basically, it means getting arrested, hiring a lawyer, and convincing a jury that the other guy was the aggressor and you had to hit that person in self defense. If the jury believes you, you are off the hook.. And if they don't, then not. These are just the penalties for unarmed attacks. Use a weapon and a while armed penalty enhancer kicks in, or you can get charged with something more serious like attempt homicide or recless injury while armed. 1. Disorderly Conduct - The lowest level crime and can also be charged non criminally as just a fine. Nobody is hurt, not even a little. Maximum penalty. 90 days in jail. Maximum fine. $1,000 2. Battery - If you hit somebody hard enough to cause pain, that is Battery. Maximum penalty - 9 months in jail. Maximum fine. $10,000 If the person you hit is 62 years old or older or has a disability, it bumps the maximum penalty up to 6 years in prison. 3. Substantial battery. This includes broken bones, damage to teeth, or cuts bad enough to require stiches. maximum prison 3 1/2 years. $10,000 fine maximum 4. Aggravated battery - Great bodily hard such as permanent disfigurement or protracted loss of function or impairment of a bodily organ or risk of death. 15 years prison, $50,000 fine.
Ramsey Dewey, you have the best self defense advice on RU-vid. I’m kinda curious to know how you came to these conclusions and what happened in your life to give you such a realistic view of fighting.
When I heard "family" I pictured a bunch of cousins disagreeing at the top of their lungs, not out of anger, but out of the hilarious energy that comes from disagreeing with people you love dearly. 😂
One day, I got my ass kicked by the neighborhood bully. At my Muay Thai practice, I bragged to coach how I got my ass handed to me, and I was gonna get back at him and make him pay. He gave me the best advice I ever got as a kid. "If you were ever in a real fight, you wouldn't, and shouldn't, be so eager for another." At the time, I never understood just how damn lucky I was. I can fight, I still train, but God forbid I actually have to resort to it.
I would be happy to use it . And use it fully . I don't want that stress and would mostly wont come to it but if it comes you should welcome it fully if it comes.
@@xcept7355 I agree man. As someone who used to box, sparring days gave me major anxiety. But once you're in the fight, YOU'RE IN THE FIGHT. As you said, welcome it when it comes
I really love and appreciate very much this kind of videos, where some reason and common sense is put towards action... There's so much nonsense going around, getting viral, watched by thousands of kids and people who will believe that crap... That makes your videos even more valuable, thanks for your dedication, Ramsey, saludos! 🙏🏻
Great video man, i agree with your point of view, people hace a very romantic view of violence... I got into the video hopeful that i would watch this video and learn that, as most of the time, i was just average like everybody else... And never have i been more sad about being an exception to a rule... For context, on the recieving end of violence, ive lived in relatively rough places in argentina for most of my life, when i was 11 a guy tried to rape me at knife point when i was on the beach, and i managed to escape but made me deadly afraid of knives for years, i couldnt eat close to someone else if they were holding a knife and i would avoid eating with a knife, got better with time... Ive been chased by a van that tried to shoot at me at random too... And ivenbeen attacked in many ways many times... after i moved to a quieter place, i started to notice i was always paranoid, checking exits, trying to see everyones hands, i never would give my back to a crowd... Etc... On the giving end of violence, in a weird twist of fate, i actually have stabbed people, ive smashed furniture into peoples head, and peoples heads into furniture... Ive actually tried to bash someones skull with a brick, and other things like that ... All of those? Were because i was reacting to the enviorement arround... I always thought "its me or them" and didnt doubt for a second i was doing the right thing at the moment... And to this day, my biggest traumas are not about any damage i recieved from violence, but dealing with the consequences of the violence i used in others... I have more nightmares about stabbing people than of being held at knife point...
I've been learning to fight for a little while now and honestly it was being almost killed as a teenager that taught me about violence, not learning martial arts. Friends tell me to "just carry a knife" for self defense but they don't understand. Thank you for this video!
When I was a younger person, I was quite small and lean, because I was trained as a gymnast. My dads are gay, and we grew up in a small Southern community. Because of intolerance for my parent's lifestyle, my size, and my demeanor (relatively mild mannered and nerdy kid), I was frequently a target. A target, not a victim. The thing about 'tha streets' is, like you mentioned, the average person isn't prepared to deal with the reality of violence. So yeah, you hurt someone enough, maybe draw a little of their blood, or hyperextend one of their joints, theyre going to walk away, because violence isn't fun. It isn't pretty, and it's not heroic. It just hurts, in more ways besides the physical.
Great video, there's a big difference between consensual violence in a ring or in the mat with rules and equipment. And non consensual violence where someone is attacking you with the intent to harm to gain something like rob you or dominate you with no equipment, no agreed rule set, no referee to decide who won. Martial arts and self protection skills are two very different things.
this is an extremely important point. Huge differences between social and predatory violence. Treating predatory violence like social violence will get you hurt or killed. People who come after you this way aren't looking for a fight. It's a hunt. Which means the situation usually starts with you being at a severe disadvantage. Every decision made in that context has to be almost immediately effective for insuring your survival. It requires an entirely different mindset.
The only "fight" that gave me mild PTSD or trauma was a fight where I was able to run and didn't even get hit. It involved me and a friend going into an abandoned basement apartment to use illegal substances. Out of a back room came 5 early teenage boys who are often most violent because they don't understand consequences to others or themselves and want to prove themselves. In the end my friend got hit but both of us got away. He ended leaving me behind and running a different way. So I got screwed over by a friend and was briefly trapped in a situation where reason and conversation was useless. When you're trapped in a situation you weren't prepared for and violence is the only option, then that's going to affect you negatively. People picture a street fight being them and 5 friends against 2 guys where you're talking shit with the build up to get everyone pumped up for it. But true surprise unreasoning violence is nothing but terrifying Edit: what people fail to consider is no rules goes both ways. No rules is never an advantage except for the aggressor at which point it's not called self defense. It's called assault.
>People picture a street fight being them and 5 friends against 2 guys where you're talking shit Actually I picture a street fight being me and some other drunk guy getting into an argument on the finer points of quantifying uncertainty in different industrial settings.
People who experience real violence don't speak about it, I had a great uncle who was in a Japanese prison camp in WW2, managed to build some kind of radio with parts around a camp and crank off a signal to Natick MA cuz the family is from Natick and he either knew someone or something idk , and the camp was liberated... I never had the pleasure of meeting him I'm to young but he was the family hero and my grandparents and parents have told me the story and he only ever told his whole story to the family ONCE! and NEVER AGAIN because he couldn't and it's the biggest take away that I took from the passed down story was the only thing that got him through the camp mentally was "having a sense of humor" he said if he couldn't find a way to laugh he would have died! To this day my grandmother talks about how bad his knees were for kneeling on ladders... Real violence is ugly it is not cool it is not romantic and most people don't get it and if they ever did the wouldn't be happy they did!
People react differently to experiences. Some people experience violence and it gives them a weird rush. They may never admit it out loud but they secretly wait for something that traumatic to happen again, because it makes them feel alive. Life is complicated.
Sounds plausible! Life is weird and people are twisted as a whole! Violent blood sports have been around since the dawn of time in one way or the other (the gladiators are a great example) and since the creation of movies my opinion is the general public gets there violence fill from movies and tv... Then there's combat sports... And finally street fighting... That's a lot of sociology and psychology for a simple RU-vid comment! 😂
I fought in Iraq and i know one thing for sure, violence is messy, and terrifying, and leaves a mark on your soul forever. The punisher kicks ass and i wore one under my uniform in Iraq lol. Seems kinda lame but i love what i love.
Judoka and Kali amateur here. I like what you said about long term ramifications. A violent encounter can last moments but even if you are victorious, the victim can still be imprisoned. This thought really bursts my inner joy from all the exciting fight movies. Revenge may be glorious, but litigation is a bummer.
The "I'm hungry" part reminded me of a friend of mine who is of spanish descent as I am. One day as he was hiking with his grandfather my friend kept complaining that he was hungry. At some point his grandfather, a bit tired, told him: "Kid, you're not hungry. Hunger is what we felt during the Civil War... What you are felling is appetite."
I had some guy grab me once, since I use to know karate, I said," hey can you grab me with your other hand? So he did and I said," your other hand, my other hand. He was very confused. By the time we got it all figured out I had to get off at my stop. Karate saves lives.
I'm a former boxer 6ft , 210lbs was my fight weight , now in about 245lbs Here is how to translate boxing into being a very effective street fighter , this is something the vast majority of people I trained with never understood or practiced , I have a much much higher capacity for violence than most due to my upbringing 1) most boxers can't throw a bare Knuckle punch , they don't place their knuckles on the target properly and they let the surface area of the glove take care of that in the ring. HOLD YOUR FIST TIGHT AS HELL and make sure you only make contact with the target with your 3 knuckles. I have hardened my fists into bone horns from punching brick and concrete walls to make my fists like iron . Hitting someone with high power and soft fists is less effective compared to medium power and iron fists . PUNCH BRICK WALLS , HARDEN HANDS 2) Most people when they attack you will try and grapple rather than strike , be quick and strike them first before they get in holding range 3) most people can't throw a powerful well executed punch , get into stance quickly and fall back on your foot work , your base is where you get your power and stability to perform rapid and powerful rotations to punch with 4) Where you punch matters a great deal , in the ring you aim for the chin , jaw, palate, temples , and various places on the body , AIM FOR THE THROAT AND NECK PRETEND THEIR NECK IS WHERE THEIR HEAD SHOULD BE, also solur plexus and liver are good 5) Uppercuts : people don't see this coming and if you can throw one hard into someone's jaw they won't know what hit them usually 6) Usually you will stun an untrained opponent after 2-3 connecting shots ,keep hitting them until the go down , once they are on the floor don't let them get back up , stomp them . 7) Learn how to kick to the groin , use this as a follow up to a stunning punch combo , a heavy weight can get enough power from their kicks to shatter someone's pelvis with a groin kick 8) Throw every punch with bad intention , every single punch you land should be thrown with lethal intent Source : too many bar fights and club fights to count , sentenced to 13 years in prison for manslaughter in 2001, never lost a fight in prison
There is an old saying - nobody wins a fight. When I was younger I thought man that's a bunch of crap. Of course somebody wins a fight, just as somebody loses a fight. But then when I got older I began to understand the quote. When you turn to violence you've already lost. Which is true if we think about it. When you use violence against another man, or woman you've lost control. We're talking about a fight here, not self defence which is something completely different. If you are attacked by somebody for no reason and there is no way for you to go, you have to do something. But a fight is something different. So after all these years, (turning 40) I finally got that. Nobody truly ever wins a fight.
Just for the record he is the other greek guy but on that note, the influence of greeks in martial arts is undeniable. Like the Kimura. The greek word for winter is kimona and what do you do in winter? You freeze so hard that your arms will fall out and what do you do when you are doing a kimura? You rip the arm of the other guy out! See simple equation /s
I hear this "from my family" literally means "from my brother(s)." That said, my 8yr old niece trains BJJ and I could totally take her in a "street" fight. Obviously BJJ is no good...
I can say firsthand that most people are not geared towards violence. Much is made of the physical training in various militaries throughout the world and many are excellent. It seemed to me though that much, if not most, of training for the battlefield is designed to psychologically condition the soldier to be able to inflict violence on another human. This level of investment seems to indicate that violence is not natural to us.
You have inspired generations to come by sharing your expertise and experiences in the ''pugilistic arts''. Your channel is golden to me. You may be that art they spoke of with the way you always re-insert the humanity back into the topic. Thankyou for all you do
I've heard that argument more times than I can count, and it's always the people who haven't been near a gym. I think it's just a mechanism for them to not feel physically inferior.
People say “there are no rules on the street” like it doesn’t also apply to the trained fighter. A competent, trained fighter is potentially deadly WITH rules. Sadly, people do die in sanctioned fights with rules to protect them. What does the average Joe expect to happen when those rules are thrown out the window? As you said, the people who tend to say things like that typically don’t know how to fight. If they did, they’d understand the folly in such statements.
Great video. The technical ability to do violence is so much different than the psychological ability to. People all think they are movie star action heroes. They aren't.
The discussion about willingness to hurt people reminds me of a Lindybeige video, where he lists post ww2 British statistics, one of them being that something like 1 percent were willing to seek out and fight the enemy, and a further 5 percent could be trained, I imagine the fact that there were a lot of conscripts had an effect but I think that helps when it’s in reference too people at large, only 1 in 100 at most will put themselves into a position to kill when given alternate choices and yet so many people think they’re the baddest person to ever walk the earth
Great video as always. My advice ( for whatever it's worth)to the guy would be to not feel compelled to correct the misconceptions, real or not, of these people he is encountering. Let them believe as they wish.
I'd just tell them "Yeah, you're probably right. I'm not very good, but I guess it's better than nothing. My gym is mostly soccer mom's". They'll probably laugh a little... or maybe a lot. But they'll stop feeling threatened by you and probably leave you alone after that.
I had a boss who kept telling me that although I train martial arts, he would just schoot me if we were ever in a fight. Which is kinda weird when I think about IT😅
My drunk neighbor once told me the same thing... "I don't use rules, I'm a a real fighter." He tried to push me. I arm dragged him took his back and choked him out. Whole thing probably lasted 10 seconds and 3 of that was me applying the choke
Ramsey, I understand you attended university for Dance, and some other subjects that I don’t recall but have you ever taken public speaking or oratory classes before? We’re you ever a part of Toastmasters in the USA? Your speaking voice and English is so very clear, eloquent and pronounced that I’d believe you were a professional motivational speaker, communicator and leader. Just enough wondering how you developed such a clear, precise abs strong English speaking voice.
Great vid. People should understand that violence is not to be taken lightly. When I first started training and rolling in bjj i started to feel more aggressive but now that I compete in actually tournaments and i spar in kickboxing I feel more scared than ever about altercations outside of that controlled setting because violence is not a toy and if I can’t take it lightly in situations where violence is allowed to unleashed to the fullest versus a situation where it isn’t anything can happen. This vid was more of a warning than anything
Based on the message alone, this was your best video. I’ve tried to teach this to my high school students over the years. Hopefully got through to at least a few of them. Thank you for your videos, brother.
Cheers to ya high school teacher! As a troubled kid I still remember some real good conversations with good teachers. I seen a guy I was in high school with, we had a quick chat about our high school years. He brought up a teacher that he always argued with and nearly fought a couple of times, he said alot of what that teacher told him as a teen hit hard as an adult and now wishes he could shake his hand and thank him for his honesty and sincerity. I feel the same. Badass teachers do make a difference.
@@lordswine7962 Thank you for the compliment… because I was a special education teacher, a LOT of the population I dealt with were troubled teens. I still get messages from kids I taught 25 years ago, thanking me for making a difference in their lives. I’ll never be financially wealthy, but I consider myself a successful man.
As I heard this, the first thing I heard was "why are you a target at these functions? are you making yourself a target in some way?" secondly, no amount of explaining to people who think street fighting wins automatically will change their mind. Just nod your head and move on. Don't even invest.
I know I'm on the late show, but I think an often overlooked lesson in martial arts that is applicable to teh streetz is seeing people in their regular clothes and ultimately realizing that you truly have no idea how dangerous someone could be. The second lesson is that someone could just get lucky and injure you regardless of skill level, or vice versa.
💥As far as the Topic of the Video...I found it Very Interesting. I agree, Yes there are "Rules" 2 Any Type of Fighting. However, Rules Can be Bent or Broken. Outside the Ring as U stated are Serious Repercussions..Physically, Mentally, & Legally. The way I look at it...If one is to Engage in a "Street Fight", One Must Prepare Their Mind 4 Death. So B4 I would make the Decision 2 Engage, I Personally Would Look At it As tho it was my Final Battle. If ur Mind is Prepared 4 that, Than U Will Not Fear Nor Care of the Repercussions. So the Decision 2 Engage 4 Me Would Mean is This Battle Worth My Life. If NOT...I Will Avoid it At All Costs. But if it IS or The Agressor Will Not Stop & It is Pure Self Defense...Then I MUST Be Mentally Prepared 2 Die as a Consequence. Whether it be from the other Combatant, their Cronies, or Even the Authorities. So it's a Very Hard Very Serious Decision. JMHO😎🤙
Trust me... you don't want to understand violence. It kills pieces of your soul in ways that can not be undone. Avoid it at all possible cost. If you can't avoid it ( and you almost always can ) be very very good at it.
Late to the party but I agree with you. People seem to forget that the streets have the law aka rules. Its why my kickboxing coach always said in his self defence classes, if you ever find yourself in a "violent altercation" for whatever reason, raise your hands with open palms not fists. Not because "palms are better than fists". But because if witnesses or cctv captures the incident, by law you have a higher chance of being confirmed as the victim thus supporting your case for any violence that occurs after in your defence. Hands up reinforces your position of going on the defensive or trying to negotiate or surrendering, etc.
I practice jkd/mma and was arguing about this with a "jkd instructor" online. He claimed that you don't need to learn how to fight in the clinch, or wrestle, or grapple, because like he said "I can poke their eye in all those positions". I tried to explain number one in most fights you don't have the legal right to just attack their eyes and potentially blind them, and that if you're on your back getting ground and pounded and you don't know how to Grapple, then you're not going to be able to do anything much less poke them in the eye. Someone who can grapple, can control the positions of a fight and be much more able to gouge, or poke the opponent's eyes. Self-defense oriented Mixed Martial Artists, should be aware and train for illegal techniques, biting, hair pulling, eye attacks. Understand that your opponent might do these things, or that some of them, used properly, could save your life. The more damaging often illegal techniques, are extremely effective in the hands of someone who can strike, grapple and wrestle, but they can't be relied upon alone; they are not a replacement for fighting, they are just part of it
Hello Ramsey. You live in Shanghai. Do you know that Douglas Fairbairn, one of the teacher of the Special Forces in UK during the Second World War, was a police officer in Shanghai ? He mixed English boxing, Japanese judo,and Chinese kung-fu, which he learned in Shanghai, to create a system for the policemen and after for the soldiers : the close-combat. He wrote several books like Get Tough. What do you think about his system ?
Shanghai in the 1920s and 1930s - with the different foreign 'concessions' and criminal gangs was a good place to get experience with violence and fighting.
I’ve been training for a bareknuckle karate tournament and getting the mindset to punch someone full force barehanded (we mostly train with gloves and pads etc and light force) is really quite hard. I think doing a fighting sport does simply give you more control over your body and maybe that restraint can hinder your ability to inflict effective violence upon someone else but that’s probably for the best. I need to develop that fighting mindset that’s different to training and sparring without being mad or emotional etc like when I’ve gotten in “real fights” (one or two punches and maybe some grappling before getting broken up). Also Ramsey you have it backwards, the phalanx destroyed the chariots Lel, the chariots dominated the Bronze Age but after that the phalanx and Greek infantry tactics were dominant until the Roman legion system. Which was a huge time.
I've trained in boxing/kickboxing/muay thai since 2006 (with a few breaks of course). The main two things that helped me avoid street fights were: 1. Avoid places that attract confrontation (drunk people, hooligans, muggers) and never go looking for a fight 2. Lift weights and look like you lift weights. Most people are idiots and they think someone who lifts weights is a dangerous person. Did I avoid every kind of fight because of those two reasons? No, there have been a couple of times when martial arts proved to be useful, but I could have also ran away so...
Having REAL fighting conversations never happens outside of the gym. EVER. I have a couple family members who train and still, it never really comes up.
Meditations on Violence by Rory Miller is an excellent read on this subject. His advice? AVOID. It tends to be a can't win thing almost always. Rory Miller works as a Prison guard.
One of the best book written in my mind (Read also the books in he`s references list, there are alot, and i like he`s other books aswell, if time permits some are NOT very nice, but violence seldome/never are) and i´ve read alot, I like for exempel a cite from the founder of Aikikido "the best defence is to avoid combat", with that said I (Stress "I") dont like the style, not that it`s bad it teaches you to fall, how often do you fall? how often do you fight?, (thinking/knowing i stolen this from one off one of Ramsey Dewey videos, one of the better youtube channels in my opinion). another pretty good author witch name i will leave out is "one problem with selfdefese are if what you train don´t work,, another is if it does work...".
He has martial arts training, worked not just in prison in USA but under a short time i think under two years in irak, i maybe wrong here. What i like about he´m he is trained in diffrents martial arts systems, he READ bocks (just check out he`s references? one is about impromptu theather (Impro by Keith Johnstone, and that one if a remember correctly he holds highly to the subject of self defense, belive it or not). So he Have martial arts training (and he, as i remeber it will point out traing that he felt were "wrong" but that would be stupid" he said to a person traing in a a specific drill, i might be wrong here i`m taking it from memory, "thats how the drill is made" seminars teacher respons answer don´t take my word for this i might have gotten it wrong (but this points to me that he thinks critically, and dont just buy into whatever he is teached). So to summerice "MY analyses of him is that he has trained alot of martial arts traing (Ive really would want to know he`s "base" system as i understand it it was i kind of "Karate" witch i never heard about earlry and they as I (with to my knowledge of diffrent karate systems, dónt teach, (but in my ground system trained in Iaido, witch is strangely),, they did if I "rembeber" did "Bokken" traning (wooden katana), it slipps my mind right now, but my instinct was at the time this cannot be right? "weapons" were outlawed when japan took over Okinawa and a alot of systems aroused from that, especillay kodudo. Kobudo: Using "ordinary" tools like nunchako (supposedely to beat down rice or something, what i was told in the 90 (it`s suppospely false by some other guy that said it was derived from horse collers,) Tonfa witch I´ve had some traing with and kinda like (a US police officer in okinawa on a holiday supposedy saw one police officer breaking done a riot singelhanled with two of those), and took up some traing think it`s called, pr24,? used in California (Wrong/right?), was a part of a rice grinder, kama chopped down rice, there are some really nasty throws with them, bo trained not much a, hanjo (basically a Jo but shorten to a half witch makes it a good baton (it´s a baton) the guy that showed us a littel of that seemed credible as he was chief of a police department in the Us, think there are better baton systems but i digress (alot) Sai never trained with it but seen soom pretty good stuff from them (almost like i Jitte but with two outwards prongs, usally used by "police" to unarm a drunk/distressed samuraj seems like a bad situvation to get into but supposedly some guys could pull it off, disarm the other guy or.... Summarizes he read books, he`s pretty "intelligent", and have alot of martial arts traing in diffrent styles, and have practiall experince of violence, would recomend a lot of what he puts out i think he`s a "genius".
That's completely wrong. I vividly remember every time I beat a bully and it still feels awesome. 100% worth it. Violence is only bad when you're getting hurt.
@@MrCmon113 And if you keep at it you will be hurt or in prison. We aren't talking about the school yard in 5th grade we are talking about the real world.
I knew a dude who claimed to have fought on the streets and had firearms, but also claimed to have gotten beat up by multiple people. And he complained that it was unfair. I took that as he was looking for trouble. And when it came to the time, he wasn't prepared.
I'm 64 years old.. been a full time musician since I was 14 years old.. played in the worst bars clubs in Canada. USA, All Of Latin America Europe & Eastern Europe .. I've seen at least over 100 Brutal real life bar ,night club fights where the bouncers got smashed ... I ve seen all kinds of fighting situation , broken bottles, knives AXES, chairs,LOADED GUNS!!! ect.... BRUTAL FIGHTS.. What is the Best Martial arts for the reality...?????? Well I can go on & on but a lot of MMA pro fighters might get killed ...there is no such a thing as the best martial arts ....Just Ask trained Bouncers they know THE REALITY not MMA fighters or combat sport guys.....OssssSSSssss!!!!
Lt Col Dave Grossmans book On Killing is one of the best studies into the inability and unwillingness of the majority of combatants to act with lethal intent, even when under fire themselves. It used to be required reading at OTC and for a lot of LEO training, and its well worth the read.
Ramsey, I'm starving... for more of your wisdom Seriously though you are one of the most genuinely insightful people on RU-vid. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Ramsey ,,,,,ok. I give up. At 1:35 i am already on the ground laughing and cant stop. I dont want to watch further . I am afraid my abs will give up !!! hahahahaha!!!!!!
I love your channel, especially when you start preaching and what you say is relatable and can be used in the real world. Philosophical and physical culture.
The streets most of the times don't give a fuck. That's why my friend who trains Martial arts says he won't engage because he knows what might happen especially if it's around hood areas or simply sketchy places. If it can be ignored and avoid do so.
I just hope that in one day I won't be faced with violence, which I define as a serious threat to life that takes you completely by surprise. No gentlemen agreements, no rules, just being targeted for absolutely no reason. Thanks for your opinion, coach. 🙏🏼
Great video, coach. As for that question you posed at 8:08, I do think that not many people are willing to empty their firearms at anyone. It wouldn’t make legal, practical, or ethical sense because excessive use of force would be a factor in deciding whether or not the shooting can be justified as “self defense.” Also, most citizen-involved shootings typically end with the victim firing less than 6-7 rounds. There are exceptions to this principle, such as when the attacker is drugged or armored, but for the most part you don’t really hear about a person emptying all thirty rounds of a weapon with more than thirty rounds in the magazine all that often. If I may, when are you going to upload a video on your RamseyReadsTheBible channel? Once again, thank you for your advice.
The streets prepared me for martial arts it help me win many ring fights and a few titles, I got in the ring not to win but to have a good go because it healed my soul from growing up in a bad way,thank U martial arts for saving my life and become a good human🤟
I think the chariot had little to do with the down fall of the phalanx. I know it was Rome in 200 to 100s BC that actually beat the Macedonian phalanx, which was the best phalanx. They did so with the Manipular system of mixed units and cavalry with high mobility. A phalanx is great going forward and back but not side to side
And they only beat the phalanx because they moved onto bad terrain, the romans themselves used the phalanx for a long time. The phalanx was still quite effective in a pitched battle but of course strategy is making sure your enemy can’t fight on favourable terms.
I have been in a street fight and never been in jail for it. But did I kick them in the groin, poke them in the eye, slap them in ears to bust their eardrums, or any vital areas. The answer is no. I didn't have to fight dirty to win my street fights. I think that the "no rules in a street fight" is a way saying anything can happen in a street fight vs sport fighting. But if you think about if you watch all these street fight videos how many do you see someone kick in the balls. I had to actually google how many fights had to been stopped there only been six fights had to be stop because of getting hit in the groin. That is not just in UFC. Two people who actually died getting hit in the groin. One was in Ohio killed someone during a robbery again google it. A 14 years old kid dies because his friend kicked him in the groin. Again you can google that as well. As Ramsey Dewey said we don't understand violence. Because there is many RU-vid videos how to strike at the groin or how that striking a t the groin doesn't work. I had a buddy of mine did go to jail for beating up another kid. It really depends whether or not that child's parent pressed charges. Sport fighting is the best beat if you want to fight and not to get into trouble, especially if you can't prove or live in a state that don't have the law of stand your own ground. Which a lot of people get that law all wrong. The law falls under the castle doctrine law where you are able to defend yourself at your home, car, and your work. Where "self-defense" becomes a gray area when you are claiming to be self-defense and where that is missed translated. I was a kid when I fought some on the street, could I have gotten in trouble? Yes, of course I happened to be lucky not to have that on my record and looked at as a violent person. Do I regret fighting when in my mind I was defending myself, even though I was defending myself, but that would just be my word against the person who was attacking me. At the end we both became losers. Even though I won the fight I still lose because I hurt somebody, but if I didn't I would have been the one who gotten hurt it is a damn if you do damn if you don't. Life is funny that way, we live on and learn things and hopefully we keep on learning something new everyday.
I think the problem is a lot of people seem to see fighting as separate entities. Like the whole traditional vs modern thing. The problem always comes back to ego instead of just learning.
That bit about PTSD and jail time man.. Rules are generated around consequences. If you don't understand the rule, you don't understand the consequences.
Glad these videos get recommended. I will tell my take too about people not understanding violence. When I was in college we got into rumble with some rival fraternity 10 of em 3 of us. I almost got hit by a broken beer bottle there. I managed to break the leaders lips by just holding onto his uniform and pulling his face into my fist but really most of the time I dunno what was going on, maybe they werw just all talk and no cojones they were never able to take us down and it helped that one of us was like 240 lbs lol. When one of my old classmates learned that he said he was very disappointed - you see he was a rival fraternity to these people who attacked us too. he said "You were a taekwondo champion (reached regional games) back in the day less than 5 years ago. You should have KILLED those guys" I was like bruhhh chill..even if I was a taekwondo champ or something,, its different and I was lucky I wasn't killed there being outnumbered. At that time I think I did not say that but now I think that since I meditated that maybe he did not understand what happens in real fights. BUT seriously,,what does he want me to do to "kill" these attackers? Throw some out of this world turning side kick hyper accurate to their carotid or femoral artery?
I think the main "problem" is that a lot of people "educate" themself by means of "media". Considering China, USA, Europe (I am lazy), Japan and Russia, we live in a more or less peacefull world. But if you, watch TV, movies in cinema or you play video games, then there is violence all over. So some people guess they know what violence is. I am not a fighter, I am someone who like to educate my self. I like technics (I am an engineer), history, politics, economics, philosophy and psychology...So some of this things broght me to your channel Ramsey. I read a lot and I like to talk with peoples who habe a bigger knowledge or a different view. Its strange, but it seems to me that the level of overall knowledge and tolerance is reciprocally proportional to the peoples level of prejudice and strenth of their "beliefs". People like the narrative, if it maintain their prejudice, as much as they hate every contrary fact. It is difficult to dicuss and argue these days. And the situation is getting worse every day. So even a highly trained fighter, with a huge amount of experience, like you, is unable to argue with people who "know" about situation on the "streez".
Martial artists don't have to fight by tournament rules if attacked on the street. And real fighting can have physical and mental after effects even if there are no legal ramifications. Even after winning a street fight a person can suffer long-term physical injuries, and mental and emotional trauma.
Since 'da streetz' continue to be a favorite topic on this channel, here's a question: who would win in a no holds barred fight: a traditional martial artist, or a modern dancer? Assume both are matched in height, weight and skill in their respective sports, and neither have real combat experience
Glad I found this channel again. I used to watch you here and there a long time ago and they were mainly the “bad women’s self defense” videos and they were pretty funny and now I’m subbed
