You don't OWN any movies... - Physical Media vs Digital Media 

But I can still make digital copies of my movies right? Also unlike digital dvds cant just be taken from you.

Because I have a couple of discs that are scratched to high heaven and I want to make a copy of just in case

Good point, well raised. The digital sellers need to be more transparent to customers and make them understand this.

Different strokes for different folks.

You get superior audio on the discs as well. Uncompressed audio that sounds stunning on a home theater surround system or soundbar with subwoofer.

Yup

Yeah they are great for cheap series etc, got a series for $10 wile seeing it brand new for $80 in store...

Tell best buy that. I hope they go out of bussiness.

You can always rip them too, cause disc rot will happen unfortunately.

@robertszvetics210 I've spent plenty there on movies too, but their selection hasn't been great over the last few years, which led me to look other places.

Amen!

Not really. Even PS5 has digital only too plus digital is cheaper

@@sharkiealami7817 digital is not always cheaper some games are more expensive digital especially after a few months

@@sharkiealami7817 "cheaper" is a relative statement.

@@sharkiealami7817 you can make up the cost with physical games

Your also to my knowledge free to make copies of your movies so long S your not selling the copies or giving them away(though who’s actually going to know or care?)

@@captaindestruction9332 There’s a label on the back of the dvd cover that says “Do Not Copy Disc”. Unless, you are putting it to a hard drive. You can’t however “copy” dvd on to a blank disc.

How come we can’t fight for the same rights for digital media?

100% spot on. Physical media is considered property. Do enough searches and you will see cases of divorce and will going over ownership of physical media like DVDs. The narrative that disc need a license to play would only work if courts didn't give a mountain of legal precedence that such things are private property.

Own true lies and the abyss for years on Vudu played them many times over the years and both had lapses in the license just last week both licenses were renewed and I gained access to the new licenses in my library the picture of the movie changed it’s still in HD not 4k but it’s the new transfer that plays when I watch it and it says I still own both movies same for Halloween 4 and 5 both movies are not available for purchase anymore but I can watch both movies because it says I own them in HDX… I also gained the new transfer of aliens unfortunately only in HD and not 4k like I mentioned before with the others

...for now ;)

Exactly, the point is that buying digitally they can remove the movie from your library. They cannot do that for anything we actually own physically. Maybe eventually when they outlaw certain movies and books, they may come in our homes forcefully and remove what is deemed offensive and evil.

@@francsiscog I better hide my gone with the wind VHS!

That’s invading people’s personal belongings and space , and it better NOT have anything to do with cancel culture.

@@francsiscog Sounds like a V For Vendetta scenario.

Facts.

I mean it is remarkably easy to accidentally click download on MakeMKV and accidentally hit the go button and again accidentally, I end up with a 1:1 copy, minus DRM. I slipped I swear!

There is no criminal or civil liability for getting around that DRM It's yours It's also their right to sell you the disc in the format they choose. In some relevant cases they can void warranty and service that's their only real recourse. They do not have a right to set arbitrary terms of service about what you do with that property after they sell it to you. Which is why no one in the US have ever been prosecutod for making copies of media. They do prosecute in Japan, and i mean just ripping your music onto your PC. The Japanese don't own their media. Sharing can be a civil violation and you can get sued but that's only if you're offering it to literally everyone on the planet in the states. Maybe don't listen to corporate lawyers boys. You should understand the practicalities IP law better than that.

@@Wegetsignal It's not illegal for you to make backups of your own content for your own enjoyment, it only becomes illegal if you make multiple copies and sell them to people (whether it is for a profit or not).

@@Wegetsignal .

Comparable with all digital purchases... look at Apple apps, I purchased so many apps back in the 2010s.. but as Apple updated their iOS the developers get lazy and do not update their apps, therefore making your purchased app useless and unusable because it can’t be updated... 🙄

@@TheOreoritz So true, so true.

EXACTLY!! Better keep a physical copy of their favorites!! Digital copies is just a way of convenience (quick access, traveling with firestick/roku stick, etc.) always keep the physical media!!

Kind of the same with video games. I bought a bunch of ps1 games on my ps3 back in the day and figured ill be able to play these on all future playstation consoles....nope. hasn't been supported since ps4 came out. So who's to say vudu is going to be around in 5 years, or whatever service you have. When buying digital you rely on a company to continue support for that service, the day they dont is the day you lose that content.

Movie spree lets me download anything I buy onto my hard drive and I can burn them onto DVD, so yes, you can own digital movies. It's only whether you can download them or not.

For now, eventually, that's the next thing they will do, especially if it's deemed offensive or inappropriate.

"If somebody took 5 of your 10 dvds how many would you have left?" 10 dvds and a dead body

@@TravelGuy9834 That would be a total outrage it's like saying the government can come to your house and take certain foods from your kitchen just because they deem it "unhealthy"

@@eternalfire580 I agree, but sadly we are heading towards that direction.

@@TravelGuy9834 Yeah I know I just want to live in a free country not a dictatorship

Some people are crybabies crying about the digital codes that don’t come with the physical media.

@@legendaryTMNICO exactly, people shouldn’t buy physical media for the code, they should use the disc and then use code if you’re on a holiday or away from the disc etc

Fact's

That thought made me laugh. Thanks, Chris!

How about tho men in black suits and dark sunglasses knocking on your door while you're midway through Men in Black? :) That's interactive movie for you. :D

These days, with the biden fbi, who knows! Thirty agents with ak47s are likely to show up at your door! 😂

😂

​@@pollyhorlander7389looking forward to voting for a dictator are we

exactlyyyyy!!!!!

They may not be taken away from you, but they can be made useless if the media device no longer supports them.

@@shauncameron8390 Not really. Even if they stop making bluray players, people will still be selling used ones on eBay. I mean, they are still selling used VHS players on there. Even Betamax. There is no way that anyone watching Elliiot's video is ever going to live so long that there is no way they can get a Blueray player. And if TV stops supporting them, then you just buy a used, older TV.

Yes, very true! Thanks for watching.

Yes! Blu Ray disk obviously don't require internet and the quality of the disk isn't going to get worse when you don't have wifi lol

On the other hand,your blu ray player could break.Or the electricity powering your player goes off.

@@Chopperwocky Or your internet modem could break and you couldn't stream anything.

@@Chopperwocky Or your house burns down

I don't think Elliot means to imply that people think they own the legal rights to say the Godfather when they buy a DVD or whatever, but a lot of people don't realize that when they buy digitally, their purchase can be taken away from them whenever. Elliots just explaining why that's the case and that when you buy physically, while you similarly don't own the legal rights to the film it's logistically impossible for it to be taken away from you in that form.

Yes I think it's clear that the point is the seller can retract access to a digital movie on your account but they can't make you give back your physical media copy. Moral of the story, don't purchase a digital copy.

I do agree but makes a very fair and strong point that physical media is not just a better way to buy movies it's also safer as no one can take them away after you have purchased them unlike what can happen with digital media . I genuinely think it is important to voice these things to people who generally only buy digital media. That although you pay for it, it can be taken from you and it is legal for them to do so. I think that's a very good point and good thing to know. But yes i do agree that nobody will think they own the rights to the movie. But nothing wrong whatsoever with stating facts albeit kind of obvious. But thought it was a very good video especially about what can happen to your digital purchases. May even be an eye opener to some people.

Yeah like I went out and bought John Wick a while back does it mean I bought a piece of the movie? Nope I bought the Blu-ray copy.

Physical media/blurays,games and books, for me, are for prepping/are for knowing I have these things, NO MATTER WHAT, that being said, I also have PDFs/digital copies as well, that I buy separately/ none of these came from the physical bluray boxes/Physical books/ I buy these separately, and I don't have to log in to ANYTHING/be connected to the internet/ping a server, to prove I own it/to watch them/read them, and I can put them on any device, such as tablets/flashdrives/computers/multiple hardrives/SSDs and so on, AND I ALSO have Netflix,Hulu,Amazon Prime,HBO Max, CBS All Access, Disney Plus,Starz,Showtime,Cinamax/DIGITAL Direct TV and so on, BUT MOST of the time, I go the digital route, mainly for convince. I also have a gig down and gig up speed, no caps/restrictions, I don't think I can think of a time when my internets gone out, my power goes off, RARELY, BUT I do remember it going off, MAYBE 3 times this year, no longer than 2 hours, most of the time, less than five minutes, granted I do have a generator/solar/batterie back ups, as well, BUT yeah having those physical blurays/books/games, as a back up, DEFINITELY makes me feel better. I also don't have ANY DVDs, at this point/480p resolution wise, is just to low, FOR ME anyway, 1280x720p/720p, IS OKAY, BUT I prefer 1920x1080p/1080p or higher. I've been buying blurays since 2006. I do have 1 thing on DVD, BUT only, because its not been made on bluray, YET. Thats SG1, the complete series/ALL 10 Seasons, I have Atlantis, SGU AND ALL of the other stargate movies AND all my other movies are ALL on Bluray though/EVERYTHING else, BUT that, is on bluray. 1080p is perfect, 4k, isn't worth it, AND 5K/8K players don't exist, SO thats not an option, digital high resolution content, COULD be an option though,IF it wasn't compressed visually or audio wise. All of my displays, AT THIS POINT, are 4k/3840x2160p, My biggest 4k display, is 75inches and my smallest 4k display is 42inches and I have 10 of those, one in my bedroom, AND 3 at each of my desks/I have 3desks/offices/office areas, EVEN my projector AND laptops ARE 4k, AT THIS POINT/I started making the transition to 4k, in 2012 and finished in 2018, AND I have ONE 7680X4320P/8K 50inch display,BUT 1080p and 4k, isn't a big enough jump, for me, 5k and 8k, IS though/5K looks really really good AND 8K is AMAZING. I mainly have 8k and 4k, for gaming though/ I have two desktops, they both have 64GBs of RAM,2 3090s in SLI and I9s. My main laptop has a 17.3inch 4k display, an I9, 2080 and 64GBs of RAM. I also have other linux laptops, that have I5s and 8GBs of RAM, they are 15inches. All of my systems have Manjaro linux AND windows 10 on them. At this point, the MAIN RULES, UNLESS, your trying to utilize old hardware/loading BODHI/Lite Weight Ubuntu or something on an ALREADY purchased machine; The rules are, NO TN panels, IPS NOW, 1080p or above, ALSO 16x9, is a requirement, UNLESS you have a specific task/reason that you NEED a crazy aspect ratio, NO dual core CPUs, quadcore/four core OR ABOVE, 8GBs of RAM, OR MORE, ALSO SSDs are really helpful for boot times/over all speed.

🙏 Amen🤣

They can not take them. He was wrong. With the Disc you buy a perpetual licence to play it as long as it lasts. This continues even if the publisher of the disc loses rights etc. In Europe you are even allowed to sell the disc, togehter with the license, legally. I can not speakt to how this works in the US or anywhere else.

Lol TF2 Reference

@@Furudal If there is any other country involving freedom and property with legalities that allow you to keep what you buy its the US lol

Facts!

You cant sell copies copies but if you bought 1 legally u can sell it

Also u can bring a freind over to play it

You can easily make copies for your friends, you could even sell copies for cheaper for others - just don’t get caught. One of the biggest benefits of physical media is being able to share it with your friends. When you talk about how good a film is, an album or a video game you’re able to offer them the copy to play it. No one cared if you swapped PS2 games as a kid.

@@Spazza42 What you are describing is piracy. Of course people do it but it is still breaking the law.

It's all 'physical media.' You mean 'hard' copy.

Same here. Only just stated collecting last Summer. Got pretty much all my favourite films & tv shows in 4k/bluray. You're right, it's fun collecting & hunting bargains .

Yes, that would be awful!

They kinda already did that. They made disposable DVDs that were sold as an alternative to rentals: you don't have to return the disc, but you can't watch it after a few days.

Flexplay did this. Thankfully it failed.

Everyone will just pirate and the movie industry will die out then.

@@Butter-Milk That sounds like a terribly anti-consumer idea from the get-go, not to mention the ecological implications it would have if it took off and became a mainstream idea.

side note, I will never watch any of my favorite movies on streaming (even if it’s free) the quality just isn’t there. BluRay quality is so much better.

Wrong. Download your digital media and backup, plus it’s cheaper Portability > physical media

@@sharkiealami7817 Thats your opinion. Anyone who wants the best quality possible knows physical is the way to go.

@@sharkiealami7817 No way. I'd rather walk ten feet to put a disc in for better quality of a movie over convenience.

How I look at it Netflix is renting I’ll watch something for entertainment. Blu Rays are for keeping if there’s a movie I really like instead of watching it over and over on Netflix I’ll buy it on Blu Ray fast as I can before it’s gone because who knows how long it’ll be on Netflix. If I have the Blu Ray copy it’s mine forever

I Fully Agree , I am the Same it is all about Money , Disney made more from Streaming than Physical Disks . Give me a Hard Copy any Day and I am More than Happy to Pay for It ?

You forgot LaserDisc 💿😉

@@C--A exactly what I'd say. And there's BetaMax, Super VHS, DTHEATER, vinyl video formats like CED, and the video CD format that's still relevant in places like China.

@Mike I am fine with all formats. VHS is simple but I love recording gameplay and stuff on to cassettes. I heard some people argue Laserdisc looks better than DVD but they're both 480 so idk. The Laserdisc format is 4:3 and they letterboxed Widescreen on them in the 1990s so arguably it's lower quality than an Anamorphic DVD in that sense. However it's analog so it looks a bit more natural. DVD really has an artificial look to it with easily visible blocks and stuff if you use an upscaler. DVD is only good for the cool collector's edition DVDs and that you can use a computer to make your own disc images. Blu Ray I recently collected for, and honestly the newer formats are only good for old movies. Old movies look amazing and have a fluid motion look to them. (The quality is probably because old movies use film which in theory is of infinite quality) newer, digital movies don't look much different from a DVD being upscaled. Nonetheless I love all formats for certain things.

It wasn't Too Long ago that I Watched one of my First DVDs Ever , That was when DVD was Brand New , It worked Perfectly Fine in my 4k player. The Digital piece of paper gets Thrown in the Bin , Waste of Paper. I own Thousands of DVDs , Blu Rays and 4k they All Work ?

same as anything else really. Streaming is only for people who aren't that bothered

cringe gatekeeping

@@juniuwuikr

Soon the laws will change and they can take them, I just know it

I disagree on the quality argument. Some things you can get in 4K. But others, such as classic Nickelodeon shows, you can't.

Hahaha brilliant comment :D

Factually inaccurate advice, see the comment by @matt lutz

@@Furudal well, I was making a joke, but sure sound off

Another reason is the mere fact that you don’t need internet access to watch DVD/Bu Rays of your favorite movies and tv shows . Whereas with digital streaming if you’re in a place that doesn’t have good internet you’ll be stuck in the loop of Buffer, continuing playing, buffer repeat etc

Jeff Bezos.

...if you purchase something under a licensing agreement....if that agreement expires, doesn't mean the outcomes of the previous agreement go away. If that was the case, nobody would EVER enter into one.

I own a whole collection of cartoons and movies and shows and anime and all kinds of stuff!

You doo the disc part not the rights part but they can’t take it away from you. That’s why companies are trying to push digital cause they wanna control what you do and how you watch

Unless in the terms of service of purchasing that digital copy it says that the license can expire.

iTunes music you can burn it on CD and it isn't DRM (it hasn't been in over a decade). So you can transfer it to any device without fear.

Yeah, digital is good for rental or streaming but owning is much better and ensures (usually) great quality always since it's not dependent on Wi-Fi.

I don't bother paying for any streaming but I do like Tubi. It's got a lot of films and shows that aren't easy to find and since it's free I don't have to worry about watching several things a month to justify having it and I don't feel angry when they remove something since I didn't buy it. Still prefer physical but when I can watch it it's nice to have a stress free streaming selection.

right, fake outrage

do you get it back, when amazon license's the movie back again? Did amaozn give you a refund?

should have just downloaded a torrent

Sometimes it's even cheaper to buy a second hand disc, rip it to your computer and resell the disc, than it is to buy a digital copy! Assuming you know how to use a computer and don't mind the extra work, it's not a bad plan!

Keep them away from sunlight, moisture, and extreme temperatures. Even indirect sunlight and keep an eye on the humidity levels in your home. Also watch the oil from your hands when handling. And careful many of the cleaning products do your discs and media players more harm than good.

@@baumer2504 No matter how well you keep your discs, one day all discs will suffer from disc rot. No one knows really when this will happen just that it will. Everyone who watched this video when it was first upload might be dead by then but they might not, probably will be. Disc rot is going to take all physical media one day.

Not to mention they are super expensive, I hit up thrifts stores to get most of my DVDs

@@williamherring2349 in uk it's called poundland lol

@Some Hairy Italian Guy no, they are currently in the process of buying the entirety of mgm studios. Which in turn will mean they own the entire franchise of James Bond

I couldn't agree more!

I know I don’t own the rights to 878 blu rays I own I’d be broke but I own the disc and can play that disc over and over again. That’s my right they can’t come into my home and take it away. If I made copies and sold them or uploaded to social media sites then I could get into trouble cause I don’t own the rights it’s like where renting but the cool thing about physical media I can keep renting for years to come where digital those rights could be gone and that’s it you can’t view anymore

@@ryans413 did you mean to reply to me, or?

We did he just wanted to clickbait and get views

Thanks. It didn’t make any sense to me. I guess it’s an interpretation of a technicality.

A Region license means it can't be sold in stores outside of the region. But online sales aren't determined by region. They and other online retailers can sell it through their website.

Technically your renting it forever because you don’t own any rights to what your watching. You yes have the right to do whatever you want to with that disc but you have no rights to make copies and sell this copies or upload to social media sites that be breaking copy right laws. But yes they can’t come take the disc you own but you can get in trouble if you break copy right laws

I can make as many copies as I want, I just can't sell them. Not that I would want to sell them anyway.

I do have a complete blu-ray collection on my channel from earlier this year but I do plan on a update later soon. The player I use is a modified Oppo UDP 203. Thanks for watching!

I know, I slipped up. I should have said not as compressed as digital. My mistake. Thanks for watching!

wats the best size of 1080p movie quality only wd best dolby digital or dts audio. i see it ranging from 1.5gb to 4 5 7gbs of fike size when downloading movies

@@CaptainScorpio24 A 1080p movie ripped from a blu ray that uses AVC codec with just standard Dolby Digital no Dolby True HD is about 30GB to 40GB with the HD sound it pushes 47GB to 50GB why most Blu Ray films have two discs one for the movie one for special features. So downloading from the internet your loosing so much quality just buy the disc

@@ryans413 that's alot for 1080p. if its for 1080p 10 bit, i wonder how much it wil b for 4k 10 bit movie

@@CaptainScorpio24 Yea 4K pushes it to about 80GB too 100GB normal Blu Rays have two layers of data 25GB each making a Blu Ray disc 50GB well 4K discs of 4 layers of data at 25GB making it 100GB discs why you can’t play a 4K disc in a normal Blu Ray player cause they are only setup to read and play the 50GB discs.

It’s an app where younger and even adults make videos , but it’s controversial sometimes besides people decide to do stupid trends sometimes.

I get it. My PS3 broke. Later I got a PS4 but about 4 games I downloaded and loved aren’t available for purchase except if I pay a monthly fee. I now need to see if I can get my PS3 fixed in order to have access to those games. If I had a physical copy of them, I’d be ok, but they were never released that way. I periodically replayed those games and probably would for life.

Weekend at Bernie's 2....

Rip them and put them on a hard drive

Yeah DRM is awful and only impacts paying customers. It doesn't affect pirates because pirates movies are always going to work on any device. DVD and Blu-ray DRM is trivial to bypass and make digital copies of. The only more legal way to own media is buying and ripping DVDs and Blu-rays and it's nice to have a physical copy as well

@Jesse Mitchell wha- you probably didn't realize what i said because i meant i like physical media and dont enjoy digital media as much....

@Jesse Mitchell i have collected movies for few years and i always tell to people why physical media is much better, how the fuck would you expect me to get warmth from movies on your usb etc. This is why you should actually read it and not pick only few words from there to there.

@Jesse Mitchell oh yes, i absolutely love how you can't fucking try to read what i wrote 4 months ago. I am staring at my collection, only time when i watch something from some streaming service only when i can't find it anywhere else. You insulted me with wrong arguments and the funniest thing is how you even got the impression "ah yes physical sucks, digital good" from me. Just please read comments better and not just assume the rest you didn't read.

All the way!