You MUST Do This With Your Wedges in Golf! 

I really enjoy your collaborations with Elite Fit Golf. In particular, this gapping session was very good. Today I'm doing a gapping session and loft/lie check on all my irons since our first men's club tournament is happening the end of March. Always good to make your equipment is in spec for the new golf season.

Adam has taught me so much about club making on his channel. Me and a buddy have split costs on a few tools to make our own little golf workshop. We have a swing weight scale and loft and lie bending tool. I just swapped iron shafts and it's been a blast learning all of this stuff. In my mind It's worth it to spend a few hundred dollars one time on the tools instead of spending who knows how much on taking clubs in to have someone else do it. Adam teaches you all the stuff you wouldn't even think about when it comes to clubs.

Great insight. Thank you. Just one reason why my Vokey’s have always been 50, 54, and 58 as it also is easier to match your irons of choice just a little bit better from a gapping perspective.

Definitely gives credence as to why you should go to a club fitter like Adam prior to purchasing!! Love the team work again with you guys!! Great knowledge share here - really appreciate you guys doing this!!

Like the subject. And the combo of two of my favorite experts. It was a puzzle for me too. I used to have just 2 specialist wedges, 52 and 58. my classic iron set had a 45 degree PW. My new iron set also had a 45 degree PW, but since it was hollow body, it easily went 5-10 meters further than the old PW. I thought I could fix it going to 50-54-58, but the 50 still had a gap that was too big. I had no club to predictabiy hit 90-95 meters. Now I've ended up with 47-54-58. The 47-PW gap is ideal, I can take a little off if needed too, and the 54 and 58 I usually do not need for full shots.

This is exactly my scenario right down to the same yardages!! Thanks so much.

Great collaboration by 2 of my fave RU-vidrs! Most MANUFACTURERS aren't doing us any favors with only EVEN LOFTS. In the 90's Wilson offered a wedge in EVERY LOFT from 49 to 60. By the early 2000's as more equipment companies were bought out by BEAN COUNTING CORPORATIONS, the ODD LOFT wedges disappreared forcing US to customize EVEN LOFTED WEDGES. Furhermore: Ben Hogan is quoted saying "show me the man who hits full shots with his wedges...I want to play him for money!" I noticed way back in the 80's that a traditional WEDGE SHAPE did not fly as far as a BLADE or CAVITY BACK design. Therefore I now use LESS LOFT for the FIRST WEDGE. (Stock Blade wedge 47, GAP 50, SW 55, LOB 60) and YES BEN, I hit FULL SHOTS with them ALL!🤣

Matt enjoyed this. I depends on park golf terrain, my club course is 1890 extremely hilly course with very trick green approaches. Greens you can roll off Have the exact same wedges in the bag 44', 48',52', 56', 60' and i would be seen in bunkers with 8i and 9i too! (Irish links golf in strong winds) I lost my 5i out. WITB Driver, 7w, 5Hyb, 6-PW, wedges

I also definitely enjoyed your collaboration videos with elite fit golf. Please keep them coming I especially enjoyed this video on gapping

love you guys working together!

PW = 50* in my old sets of irons including blades and my original Ping Eye 2’s. We carried a 56* and learned how to hit open and closed shots as well as grip down. This gave lots of distance options.

I just went thru wedge gap fitting and ironically had same issue Mr. Short Game. My issue was my swing though and not the wedges. My fitter also gives lessons and pointed out a swing flaw that was robbing me 10 yards of distance. I'm 58 years old, a higher handicap, and my gapping is 10 yards off from you. I'm getting SM10s at 47, 51, and 55 but going to work on swing flaw.

Great video, enjoyed the fitting session with Elite Fit Golf, they look like a real nice company.

So cool, you guys detailed exactly what you did you assessed. The problem explained the solution you guys are straight to the point I was watching another video on changing shafts I believe it was smash factor or smash factory. The guy changes shoves, and his T-shirts are completely different. Great shots I posted what shaft did he change to, and they told me you don’t worry about that. Just try a bunch of shafts and figure it out but you guys are the opposite.

It is great to see your title to tell us what to do instead of what not to do. It makes a difference to make a change. Nice information.

its funny I just came across this video I had bought a 52 degree played it and it was quite to the distance i wanted it to cover I was nervous bout it but I took it in to get bent to 49 and had a great round yesterday makes me feel even more confident about my choice watching this video

Great collaboration!

Very cool... I had the exact set up - 44*, 48, 52*, 58, 60*. I decided to dropped my 56*, 60* and added a 58*. The 58* does the work for both of them. So now, I carry the 48*, 52* and the 58*. So far, this has really worked out for me.

this is exactly what i’m dealing with now!!! had a discussion on the course yesterday, it is a such a relevant topic. thanks.

I had the exact same issue and lost the LW and the additional PW. So the set up is 44 (set PW) 50 and 56 SM9. The 56 is M grind and opens up really nicely so I don’t miss the LW at all.

Great video as always.... I still would like to see the dynamic loft delivered but with his consistency I guess it's good as is.

I had the same issue, the sm9 with the t150, i added loft on all my irons lol they are stock de lofted so just brought it back to standard. The t100 where not feeling good for me as my off center hits where too pronounce on the feel, and the t200 feel too “bouncy”

Some people don't mind the offset change with removing loft on a wedge, but more often than not it just changes the look too much because of how the hosel and the leading edge are shaped. I would rather add loft to a wedge than take that much off because of that odd look with offset. That being said, I play the T150 and go 44 PW, 50 Gap, 55, 60, just so I can have a 4 iron at the top end. Very cool gaping session.

Interesting video Matt! So many things to play with in the short game, are you going to swap wedge shafts to Axiom's to match your irons? As i can imagine this tweaking things slightly. Also have you ever tried an iron set matching GW? I play T100s irons with a matching GW and love it to bits. Then go into a 54 & 58 / 60 (condition depending).

Not one to normally comment, but I have to say I really do enjoy your videos. You introduced me to the game two years ago, thank you. Goodluck in life brother 👍🏻

This is exactly where I am at with my wedges. Does indoor gapping translate pretty well to outdoor gapping?

i had pw/48/52/58. i wanted to add my 2 iron in so i worked out my common club vs how often i use club...the 48 came out...yeh the gapping is a big one but it gives me a chance to learn short game control.

My PW is also 44° and I went through the same process but with Titleist before ordering. Ended up with 48 as gap 54 sand and wanted a low bounce versatile option with the 60 4° T Grind. Never really swinging the sand or liob wedge full and I’m comfortable taking distance off. The extra club at the top of the bag is nice to have

Love those shoes! What make are they? Btw, the wedge modification is very similar to what I did so that I could carry my 4 iron.

Great video... thanks

Great video Matt. Very informative. It’s crazy that with the irons so ‘jacked’ nowadays that a third of the bag is made up with wedges!

Cool video my whole bag probably needs this

I agree with doing this a lot. My PW from my P-790's is 45 so I have wedges at 50, 55 and 60. I know 5 degrees is more than usual but it works for me. Although I've never been fitted like this for wedges.

Matt, have you switched to an X100 shaft in all your wedges? I recall the testing you and Adam did swapping out the standard wedge shaft for a 7/8i X100 shaft. Of course cutting the butt down to the right length. After watching that video, I swapped out the shaft in my 60°. It flies lower and spins more (prov 1) and I think it's more accurate directionally. I'm be doing my other two wedges shortly.

Great video it shows me that I may need to do this with my wedges. But I don't have the four wedges in my bag.

Gotta be the biggest scam in golf that an average player needs 4 wedges.

Love those shoes Matt they are awesome

Adam @elitefitgolf is amazing. Went in for a fitting twice and he's so honest and helpful. Doesn't try sell you things you dont need and always makes sure you are fit correctly.

Got fit for a set of the Cobra CB’s 4-P, gap between my 50 and P are good but the gap between my 9 and P arean’t. Will probably get my P bent to 45 maybe 44. Also cant wait for my SM10’s to get here , so jealous LOL Got fit for MG4’s in Oregon, 56-12 and 60-10 for wet muddy conditions. Then moved to Florida andddd, Florida has no mud LOL. Went 56-8M and 60-4T.

Good stuff!

As a long hitter I've always had 5 wedges in my game for last 20 years. Stock PW, Cleavland 48, 52, 56, 60. People are always impressed at my short game since I have 5 wedges and also know my half swing yardages. That's how you score well is 150 and in

Was there any thought of bending 44 to 45 and then have a 50/55/60 setup with vokeys?

I have been through this process with the loft and lie machine. Mine were 60, 56 went to a 55 and the 52 went to a 50, with my pitching wedge at 46. My distance gapping in my opinion was spot on. The lie side of the equation is also very important,an upright or flat lie that doesn’t suit your swing, shaft lengths etc. is bad for you golf. It’s all important and not difficult to do as it is worth it.

I wasn't getting the predictable distance that I was used to with my 60° lob wedge. So I had it checked and it measured 62°! I had it bent to 58°. Then had my 52° bent to 53°. I aldo carry a 48°, and my 44° PW was bent to 43°. So my gaps are now 5°. I can always open the face a few degrees if I need a shorter shot.

I have the t150 irons but got the set gw at 48 and then have my vokey sm9’s at 54 and 60

I carry 14 clubs but used to carry 15 to add a 2i. I had a 48* so instead of Vokey 52,56,60 I got Mizuno T24 52/58 then lofted the 52 to a 53 and cut the 58 by 1/4” so back to 14. The 48/53/58 is plenty enough. I prefer to loft up and add a bit of bounce instead of lofting down and reducing a bit of bounce.

I carry 4 wedges. I had too big a gap between my PW and my SW (120/95 respectively). So, I really needed the AW to fill that gap at 105-110 yds. My extra wedge is a 60* LW.

man... I'm so envious of your swing. it's butter, effortless... I have to GO for it to get your yardages. If I swing smooth like you I'm about 30yds short.... :(

My PW is 43 so I have a 48,52,56,60 as my wedge set up. But not sure if I should just go 54 and 60? Looking to upgrade so that’s the decision I have right now.

Did you or can you do a review on your golf shoes? Great video as always

MrShortGame Golf always has the nicest shoes...

Had the same issue with a 44° PW. Ended up going 48°, 54° and 60°. Finished with a nice 10-12m gapping

It's interesting to see how different people end up in different combinations! Fit at the end of last season, I ended up with the PW(44.5)and GW(49.5) being from my ping set and two SM9 at 54 and 58. Because of that I'm curious. You end up with a 54 and 60. Do you mostly play your 60 out of the sand? If not, how do you feel about now playing a 54 from the sand? Love the look of your customs too btw!

What is the grip on you pitching wedge 1?

Curious if the lofts were checked for accuracy before testing. eg was 56 degree wedge exactly 56 degrees

The brilliance of being professionally fitted 👍

My pw is 44. I have 3 vokeys. 48,54, and 60. Works great.

Can you do a video on people who shoot the flag distance then choose the iron they once hit that distance and why they always end up in the front right bunker?

What shoes are you wearing in the video? They look great

I have the exact same wedge setup. I make more birdies because of the wedges so I removed my 3 wood instead (since it is mostly a layup club for me)

this is great stuff! Two of my favorite golf RU-vidrs! Another thing…can you two do another video addressing the flattening of wedge lies? You hear that a lot these days that pros flatten their wedges, especially if they are wedges they take full shots with, otherwise, you wind up pulling shots…any truth to that and what say you on this??? BTW, nice, “I’m a pretty good wedge player.” Really??? You’re MR. FREAKIN’ SHORT GAME!!! You’d better be a little better than pretty good! LOL…

cool shoes!

Did the fitting with Titleist ended up with the same lofts 60, 54, 50, 44

Yea I need to do this with my new wedges I just bought last year. I bought them to gap a 45 degree P-wedge but I didn’t want a 60 degree so I went 50, 54, 58. But I still have too much of a gap between my P and my 50 for distance. Considering bending my 50 to a 48 or 49 and my 54 to 53 but leave 58 cause I typically won’t full swing that one anyways except when absolutely necessary.

Where is this video being filmed at? Mr. Mobile is quite tall.

What a team

MSG...what shafts are in your Titleist irons? Not wedges, but 9, 8, 7...

What about bounce change when bending wedges?

Generally every degree of loft is approximately 2-3yds depending on your swing speed, plus or minus depending on if you’re going up or down in loft to fill out your yardages .

Thats what I went with too. T100 Pw bent to 45, 50, 54, 60. Hardly ever taking a full cut with the 60.

Good vid. Wish you had shown the same chart from earlier to see the final gapping.

I watch his videos wish he would make more!

48°, 52°, 56° and 60° has always worked very well for me. 🤔🤪🇺🇲

most wedges are cast iron , which is harder to bend ?

Do you feel wedges off a hitting mat gives accurate numbers vs grass?

No discussion on how you’ve changed the bounce as you bend lofts?

I like the fact that he mentioned that his PW=44*. These club manufactures have spent the last decade strengthening the loft on irons to sell you how much further their newest irons go. They didn’t do anything except turn a PW into a 9…and still call it a PW.

A common mistake people make is buying specialty wedges that flow 4 degrees off their PW but the technology difference between some irons and specialty wedges is drastic and the 4 degree gap from PW to 1st wedge doesn't provide the gap you need. It's a good idea to always find the loft that provides the required distance off your PW and then gap the rest off that. Sometimes you may need a 46 degree specialty wedge to gap off a 46 degree PW. It all depends on the technolgy differences.

So.. 48* Vokey SM10 for sale?

Generally irons gap is 9m or 10 yards. But as amateurs we release correctly some times and the 110 m wedge goes 120 m.

I got rid of my 3-7 irons and now carry a 44 degree PW, 46, 48, 49, 51, 54, 56 and 61 degree wedge set. Now if could just consistently hit my driver 360 yards.

Batman and Alfred did it again. great Video

48°pw, 52° bent to 53 and, 60 work for me, i used to have 4 wedges but i like my 3 iron so went to 3 wedges..My problem is Im using blades from 2006 and losing distance due to age, injuries and old technology.

I go 44, 48, 52, 58. Works great.

So, when you order you next set of wedges, will you order the lofts to match your end point after this gapping session?

My 9 is 41, PW is 45, GW is 50, SW is 55, and LW is 60. I would probably like something between SW and LW. I almost never use my GW. 110-125 I use my PW. Inside there I am at my SW which can go anywhere from a 170 yard blade to a uber lofted 60 yard flop. LW is typically only used from inside 60 yards and I will either sky it to the moon for a total distance of 27 yards, or skull it through the clubhouse windows.

There’s nothing like this place where I live. So I just have to figure it out and order what I need. My gapping goes by 5*. 49* mizuno 225, 54* & 59* t22. My problem, I think, is the 49* 225 comes out hotter. So my yardage is like 115 (120 if I catch it good), 90, 75. My pitching wedge, btw, is around 125-130. Seems like I should get my gap wedge bent weaker, maybe? That would mess with the bounce though sounds like.

4* difference between mid/short irons is great but once you get into the wedges that gap needs to jump up to 5 or 6 degrees. a 48* wedge is pretty silly when the PW is 44. ive always thought 45-50-55-60 made the most sense, but then you take a guy like Tommy Fleetwood who only plays a 52 and a 60 just so he can have more options at the top end of the bag.

A 44° pitching wedge is a former 9 iron. When the lofts started getting stronger, the "gaps" became a problem.

For me I got from 128 aw, 115 52 degree, 105 56 degree, 95 60 degree. With having more long clubs I can’t take out I’m forced to remove one from this perfect gap so I take out the 115 yard club normally

So you went 44, 50, 54 and 60? That would never work for me. From my 6 iron to LW, I have 4 degree separation between each club. So, I go 42 (9 iron), 46 PW, 50, 54 and 58. It is perfect for me and I do not miss the 60. I guess the idea is to do whatever gives you the most confidence. Great video. I think it is so important for us to tinker on this level and find what works best.

45 yards for 5 clubs is actually 11.25 yards progression since there are only 4 gaps between 5 clubs. Progression would be TY/(N-1). 45/(5-1) = 11.25. If you drop to 4 clubs then a perfect progression would be 45/(4-1) which is 15 yards per club.

5:40 5 wedges gives 4 gaps. So in a spread of 46 yards the "perfect gap" would be 11-12 yards between clubs, not 9 yards 🙂 So from the shown data one degree stronger SW and 1.5-2 degree stronger GW will give the perfecting gapping, if those strikes of course is representative of your regular average strikes on course. Likewise if you chose to drop one wegde as you discussed, the gapping would be 15-16 yards, which is a bit of a stretch.

You should either pull the 4 iron from the bag or the 60° based on the course that you will be playing.

Interesting, I have a 25 yard gap between my gap wedge and my pitching wedge so I learned to hit lovely three quarter pitching wedges 👍😂

4:35 Mr 5’6

What i miss is the pre club check if they are really the lofts and lie you say they are. And also you have something called memory of the steel in the hosel. Clubs will go back to there original loft and lie. especially if they are not forged clubs

My pitching wedge is 46, my approach wedge is 50, my sand wedge is 55, and lob wedge 60. works for me.

My problem is that I don't consistently hit any club well enough to say which one I want to lose, but I have a driver, 3 and 5 wood, then 3-9, pw, and the lazrus 3 pack (52,56,60) and a putter.

I'm a math teacher, thank you for going thru the numbers slowly to make sure that everyone knows that there is 4 degrees between them. Many people are very, very stupid. Just not the people that watch golf videos.