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Always report to gas supplier and get a reference number - Put ref no on paperwork, commissioning sheet and invoice. Covers you for the future as well as demonstrating professionalism. You did the right thing...
Well done on your tough mudder, ten miles is phenomenal achievement. That was mighty quick and tidy on the gas pipe. Who or what is Cadent I assume it’s a gas inspection regulating body from all the comments. Keep up the good work.
Hehe, years ago I went to look at a Main Mersey multipoint heater (well before your time 🤣) 15mm copper finished a metre away and remaining metre or so was green garden hose with 2 jubilee clips... Another one for you Luke, get the rotary pads from floor cleaners, used ones are fine...chuck in van and cut off a bit when needed...awesome for cleaning copper...£70 seems excessive for a wire brush, lol
Just keep doing the right thing, most of the Cadent lot round here will adjust it if you are on site/ leave a note. Always use a water gauge to prove its low, they like that to.
Good video, I find if you stay and work with them they will sort the issue, otherwise they just say it’s fine, a little tip to any one who needs it, I’ve had loads of issues with the plastic inserted pipe, they use 16mm sometimes to push round the last bit, never gives the right pressure, if you look on the back of the black iron connector it usually tells you what size pipe is inserted, every time I’ve pointed out its 16mm they just call the dig team, bingo bongo bango
Needs to get a set of M8 or M10 threaded rod cropping jaw for the press tool and use some euro rings threaded rod and back plates, will save a lot of time and clip in any scenario 👌
Had these at 6 mbar and the gas transporter has left the appliances connected😮 So called engineers want to go home and let the next bloke sort it out! We as Gas safe Engineers are left in the firing line
Had a similar job a few months ago. 24 KW combi in a flat with meter in the dentist basement miles away. 17mb working at the meter and 7 mb working at the boiler!! I ran a new gas main within the flat to boiler location consisting of 1 leg of 35mm and loads of 28 down to 22 at the boiler. Got 15.5mb working at the appliance still only 17mb at the meter. Didn't even bother ringing cadent as they're as usless as a chocolate teapot.
Used to be a lot easier when you had the lead press seals on the governor 😝 I’ve had the same with cadet recently and had one engineer admit that they were getting update training to put boilers into max mode rather than running a tap. Keep up the good work. #yamyam
8:50 £70??? Wow. Did you rob the bank lately? :-) Cheap, same style red pipe cleaners from ebay (15mm, 22 and 28 plus form to trim the lagging) £17 And you can use it in a drill, or manually, because it has very nice notches on the cover
I started out fitting smart meters before going on to boilers, as a meter fitter you're allowed to adjust the regulator-its just a flat head screw on top and they give you plastic seals to put on afterwards, now I've lost the meter qual it's a nono. Seems crazy that meter monkeys can do it but now we have to call out cadent for a 30sec job
Is that true I’ve still got my met1 I thought the only people who could touch the meter was the gas supplier I did the met1 to go do meters thought it would be an easy life lasted 2 days board the shit out of me
The gas transporter needs to first adjust the regulator pressure and if that doesn’t work, change the gas meter (in case something inside is partially blocking it). Have the pipes in the street been replaced/worked on recently? Leaving sh*te inside the meter/regulator/pipework/appliance gas valve. If you had the correct gas pressure at the meter, I’m sure 22mm pipe, for that length of run would have been suffice. Saving you some pennies! Others would have adjusted the meter regulator themselves, and claimed ‘the seal was not there on my arrival!’
I’ve been pressing 2 years now. You’ll get the hang of it, what to press first due to access etc. I press upto 108MM as I do a fair bit of Commercial and you cry hard when you mess up and the fittings are over £100 a go 😂
Nice moves, Luke. Cadent.....is there anyone we can trust out there?? What, they wanted a humongous gas leak to jump all over on?? It's like they just didn't want to get tucked in and reset those gas numbers properly, like it wasn't 'taxing' enough. For it to take a wholehearted tradesperson like yourself to actually move the woods for the trees for them 🤥🤥 And wait....what the hell was that?!? 15mm on the gas pipe?!?! Nah, that's not a bad day, don't even see a level 3 first year student doing that. And that was supposed to be professional?! Seriously. Must have run out of 22mm. Lost the 22mm cutter, so piped in the 15mm as he/she had the cutter for that!! Doesn't look as if Cadent did much observation, anyone should have spotted that rotten elbow in the meter upon the simplest of inspections. And more so they did nowt as it couldn't pass the tightness test. What's more shocking - the shoddy pipework or Cadent's lousy approach to it all!! 👍👍👍
Feel for the customer because it’s 2nd time I’ve been to put an install right that they paid a lot of money for, least now I know it’s all correct and no problems for warranty 👍👍
Cadent are a nightmare. I stay and wait now so I can put the boiler in service mode. To many times I've reported the same low pressure 3,4 years in a row. I've even caught an engineer turning the temp down on the boiler to get it to modulate more. I now ask my customer if they have had a new meter when I walk in because these new govners are set to low. Did one Sunday, 2.5mb different to last year at the appliance.
Mate I'd be a millionaire if I got paid for the amount I call wales&West . They've changed there minimum op which is no good to us . The manufacturer's and gas carriers don't seem to be able to communicate or don't like each other 🤣. Plumbliketom had a right ding dong with gs inspector over meter pressure and pipe sizing 🤦🏻♂️
You can actually at risk the supplier of gas and they are only allowed to supply 17mb if under fault conditions ie working in street etc I had to at risk them before and it was the only way the engineer would up the pressure
Yes, that's correct of course. When you measure at the gas valve inlet test point, Worcester suggest a further 1.5 mb is an extra typical drop to allow for. So a 2mb drop from the meter to this point is fine.
@@martinwright7093 the requirement is to provide pipework with a drop of less than 1mb between meter and appliance. If Worcester only require say 15.5mb at the appliance the reading at the meter can't be more than 16.5. If it is the pipework is undersized. There requirement is not a get out to fit undersized pipework.
@@andywareham6334 No, I agree completely. But I think Worcester are saying that 15.5mb at the test point equates to 17mb at the actual inlet to the appliance because of the drop between the inlet and the test point. But you're right, there shouldn't be more than 1mb drop on the pipework.
We always fit a gas test point at the inlet to the boiler and test there. You cannot test pipework for 1mB drop from a boiler test point - Too much pressure drop across the smaller inlet pipe/valve. On a Vaillant 837 the pressure drop between the test point we fit on the supply pipe and the boiler test point is over 3.5mB !
I’m all for spending money on tools even ones I don’t need but I looked at them pipe cleaners and couldn’t justify £70. The spare brushes are another £10 plus about £7 delivery 😂 should come with 5 meters of spare brush to cut down the scruffy thieving bastad 😂 preying on his fellow plumbers
Cadent won’t want to know mate, as you say they will run hot water, did you know your sleeve for the gas should now be metal the same or greater tensile strength as the copper pipe not plastic, a right pain when your running 28mm pipe, means we should all be carrying lengths of 32mm to use as pipe sleeves.
@@cliveramsbotty6077 it’s 15mb in extreme conditions. That’s why they say only 1mb across system. Currently the standard is 18.5mb if you have less than 18.5 you call the gas network for your area Google igem 13 working pressure you’ll find the info
