Young Justice - Downfall from grace 

I think I understand where you’re coming from as I had a similar point of view about the time spent with characters as well. I struggled with losing my favorite members over and over again until I realized that this show is emulating the comic Teen Titans and Young Justice squads; where they represent the growth and change of youth, because characters like Dick or Aqualad don’t have a story related to growth and development anymore, so the focus is shifted to the new players who are going through the themes of the show I.e. self discovery, etc

The fact that I forgot Cyborg was introduced until you mentioned it at the last second in this video just proves how weird their use of characters is.

I'm a big young justice fan and I'll probably watch till it gets canceled again, but I would be lying if I didn't notice the dip in quality in all forms from the animation to writing from season 2 to 3

They main problem was that they added too many characters. Season 1 was amazing because it had a tight groups of heroes with shared time and a great storyline. Season 2 even though I love it you could see that them added even more characters a good amount them get a short end of the stick or get enough development and also there could be a focus on a character a lot then give them less screen time in the next season. For example tim drake's Robin was dope in season 2 but he isn't given alot of development and still doesn't in 3 and same with bumblebee,wonder girl, mal Duncan. Also blue beetle and impluse had a huge role in season 2 and in 3 their roles are reduced. Also a problem with 3 it doesn't feel like there is a straight forward storyline it feels like it jumps around place and with season 4 it looks like it's doing the same thing

I think Young Justice is trying to copy Justice League/Justice League Unlimited in expanding the world/universe and showing us more characters heroes and villians. However this is at the cost of losing what made Young Justice special in the first place, having the primary focus be on a small of group of teenage heroes trying to navigate through their own personal struggles.

I don't know why Greg is so addicted to time skips. It makes no sense. Season 2 had characters die offscreen which included characters we never saw. I originally wanted to see the Red Hood storyline, now I don't want Greg to get anywhere near Jason Todd. The guy can't commit.

The problem with Young Justice now is that they don’t prioritize character development all the care about is ‘what’s the next quirky adventure our heroes with go on.’ What made season 1 great is it focused more on character development a than story to really get us to care for these characters.

I fucking lost it when they decided to give Harper 1/3 of an episode to explore her gender identity, meanwhile superboy is fighting for his life in phantom zone. The fucking irony is that a few episodes later, the writer (and the whole studio with them because nobody noticed this) forgot that her gender pronounce is they/them. Really shows how much they "care" about representation. Every episode is a mess of plotline that aren't relevant to each other. Beastboy PTSD arc seems like a slog because instead of dedicate an entire episode to him, they sliced it up and spread it through multiple episode. Harper plot is out of place and is a poor response to the backlash in season 3. The main antagonist doesn't show up 3/4 into the season. Zatanna/Kaldur arc can be completely cut out and it would improve everything. Nightwing has been relegated to a secondary character in his own arc. His most meaningful contribution is breaking the 4th wall to read the writer script to solve a mystery that the audience already know. What the fuck? Is this really the same people that made season 1&2? How can it be this bad?

I’m just waiting for Wally to come back tbh Nightwing and Wally are the only characters I care about

After season 2 the show lost track of where it going

Wasn’t a fan of season 3 either. BUT i will say season 4 has been pretty good, I like that all of the arcs have been pretty cohesive in telling a bigger story. I do agree with other comments that state they wish the shows focused on the development of core characters. I do hope that they go back to their original formula from season 1 and 2

This show is now a political campaign with super hero undertones.

I hate to admit I agree with a lot of this. The show has more characters than it can do justice. How are we supposed to feel anything about characters we haven’t been given time to know. It’s even worse with relationships. They too often brush over major relationship developments, like with Nightwing and Batgirl, Aqualad and Wyynde, Bart and Ed. Rather than let us watch their relationships start and unfold, they just tell us they’re together now and we’re supposed to feel something about that. I understand they don’t stop living their lives during the timeskips, but if all the interesting developments happen during timeskips, why am I watching at all?

the way superboy has the same powers with no development in all 4 seasons is crazy

they needed to show the main characters and not focus on depressed beastboy. that sucked.

In the first seasons of Young Justice the show had one plot, one interconnected cohesive storyline and a big but medium sized cast. But now we have a whole bunch of storylines that don't connect or parral at all. Such as the phantom zone storyline and the Atlantic prophecy storyline. And there are too many characters to focus on like Nightwing, batman, beast boy and the outsiders, superboy and the new recruits.

Tl:DR - I still love the series and want to see it to its conclusion, but I do think it kind of sucks now... My complaint about season 4 is that they treated Zatanna, Kaldur, and Rocket as background characters in their own arcs. It's not that I don't care about Atlantis politics or Forager loving Forager or a Blue/Red Lantern or the focus on Vandal Savage's history again.. it's that the focus of each arc was supposed to be on members of the original team, but because the focus wasn't...I don't care. Also, none of these characters experienced significant growth like Megan, Artemis, and their related characters did. My fear is that they are going to do the same thing with Nightwing. Dick Grayson goes back to being an acrobat occasionally because he just can't deal with being a hero, very likely related to the stress of the job or his grief over losing Wally, Jason, and who knows how many other friends. But is the last arc of Season 4 going to focus on that? Oh heck no! We have to tie together story threads from the rest of the season, so Nightwing will likely be treated as a background character again. I doubt we see Jason Todd and that particular carrot will be dangled over our heads for another season. Another complaint is that Beast Boy's entire depression sprint could have been handled in a single episode rather than splitting it up in 1 minute sections across a whole season. The Episode could have had some focus on Beetle, Static, etc. as they worry about their teammate in the middle of dealing with whatever disaster Beast Boy decided to sleep through, and the episode could have culminated in the rather excellent Black Canary counseling session, instead of it just appearing in the middle of the Rocket arc. This way, you aren't interrupting the other story arcs to focus on Beast Boy who has nothing to do with anything at the time. Also, what about Bumblebee and Guardian? Half an episode focused on Bumblebee going inside her kid's blood to spread the metagene. Where are the consequences of that? What are the consequences of Artemis believing that Wally is dead, especially since this season confirmed there was a way to reach him if he were actually dead (the way that all the magic users tried to reach Connor)? Where has the Light been in the year? At this point the show is creating more open plot threads than it closes and it's making me want to see it to the end, but I am growing exhausted watching this show because it just isn't that good anymore. Also, Some of the characters are not particularly well written (A petty Joker not focused on Batman seems like a good idea, but the execution in this universe is terrible), and the animation has dipped in quality compared to season 1 and 2. I could rant for hours because I am a fan of the series, but let's stop now...

My main problem with Young Justice is the number of characters and time skipped in between seasons 1 and 2. I didn't know about the comic books so when I started watching season 2 I was playing catch up trying to understand what happened in the 5 years which kind of bugged me because the show did a bad job at explaining what happened during that time

My problem with season 4 is that they introduce interesting moral concept like the greater good or good intentions gone wrong. But then crank the evil to 11 like in the final episode of the any arc to absolve the heroes of any mistakes they made.when we first see Zod he is paranoid nationalist vs the team who won’t let him out as they are more afraid of his race an understandable sentiment and his future actions could of being result of being driven cookokoo by the phantom over 1000+ years. By 26 he is just another villain of the week saying I shall conquer the world even if it makes no sense

AMAZING HOW EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID WAS SO ACCURATE TO THE STATE OF THIS SHOW PD. DON'T YOU FIND HILARIOUS HOW RED TORNADO WAS SO IMPORTANT BACK ON SEASONS 1-2 BUT NOW HE ISN'T EVEN HAVE A SINGLE LINE OF DIALOGUE?

The biggest mistake was getting rid of Arsenal and Kid Flash

Season 1 is still the best season for me. Its too many characters and everything is all over the place now. The time skips are too much, there is so much character development thrown to the wayside. Too many random couplings and episodes feel like an excuse to insert as many cameos as possible instead of a comprehensive storyline.

The first two seasons were so great! Season 2 was my favorite! I did not like Season 3, it was a letdown. I stopped watching it.

Definitely enjoyed the video you’re very knowledgeable and well spoken. And you’re hilarious too the ending was fire. We really forgot Cyborg was apart of this series. 😭

This was a great video. I haven’t even seen seasons 3 and 4. It sounds pretty rough, I wasn’t tripping about seeing spoilers, but honestly am kinda interested in watching it now. I guess we’ll see if I ever actually do lmao

hell yeah i totally agree man keep up the great work

I hope young justice go back greatness again

Bruh season 4 is solid LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

S1 was amazing, S2 was great too as a few more heroes were added and had a good storyline, S3 was the worst one for me personally, S4 so far is alright. while they are focusing on the OG 6, it still has different storylines that all merge together, so it'll be interesting to see where it goes

Great video

Tbh im just glad its still a continuous story. It coulda been left in the dust but they decided to revive it. Be grateful

Show was also getting more woke, villains never had a point except "we're planning something" that was not really significant. When the senior super heroes did show up, you'd think it'd be an extra treat to see them be really kick ass. If you thought Robin's fights were cool, wait until you see Batman fight, who should be a head & shoulders better...but when they do fight it's nothing extra special. Fights were kind of a let down, except final episode.

Season 3 animation was rough, but season 4 has been a lot better besides the zatanna arc.

Great video 👍🏿

Yes. Yes. Yes. Outsiders bored me too tears.

The show did dip in quality in seasons 3 and 4 but so say it is garbage is an overstatement. Season 3 was not the best but just fine and season 4 is much better so far.

Personally, I don’t like the multi episode character arcs. In original seasons, if we had a character arc, they would do it in one episode. I’m disappointed that the arcs I was looking forward to, zatanna, rocket, and Nightwing are not really center on them. Especially, Nightwing, I wanted it to be more about him, would have really love it if if included Jason Todd, but it’s not. I really hate that this week, we got a filler episode, none of the other arcs did this, about character I really don’t care about. Jason Todd as had only a few minutes of screen time in nearly three seasons, but new, random characters get a whole season and episode to themselves?

Yo I love the video. Found out about you from LKIAB and I love your content so far. Your writing is AMAZING and you have really good comedic timing

They killed Wally and no one gave a f 🤷‍♂️but Super boy dies and people from the future show up🤯

The problem is so easy to understand, it's just too many amazing character but not enough time to develop, there's just so many characters that are just their to do nothing and say nothing or just have a small cameo, i wouldn't mind if it was just the season 3 Young justice we could had follow, but then they just got push to the side, or i wouldn't have mind if it was the outsider to be the New team to follow but what happened they just get push to the side and didn't do much for the plot, and if people said that is not so easy, Teen Titan did it and better, we just had Raven, Beast Boy, Raven, Starfire and Robin and they pull it off by just having a Main Team to follow. Season 1 and 2 was having sucess cause it was just one Main Cast of team that we followed but everything just got complicated then time skip happened and more and more character just appeared out of nowhere with no plot or story, some people from the Team i don't even Know who they are like Halo or Geo Force and that Girl that has arrow and some other Girl that is hanging out with Batman and Tim, shit wonder Girl doesn't bring anything special to the team.

Saying it’s garbage is a bit much, i see where you and other people are coming from about certain aspects yeah season 1-2 we’re great but I think the recent seasons are still enjoyable.

Just to many characters and plot points, I miss when all the characters were one team.

I think the series reflects the tragedies that human beings suffer even with superpowers they are not immune to the crisis on earth. Because of this they cannot lead a normal life.

This was a good breakdown. Season 1-2 were epic, the formula changed with season 3. Didn’t help that it was more graphic and halo almost dying became the young justice ode to South Park🥲. Season 4 has been ok, the Artemis arc/ Aqualad arc were my faves so far.

It's not a dumpster fire. Honestly Season 4 is among the best the DCU has ever put out (especially in the second half).

They never resolved key plot points like dealing with the light or saving the future or the real real reason Bart came back in time. Or adding more characters we don't know. or it takes us a season to get to know. Introducing more possible plots and stories that won't go anywhere like Jason Todd is alive, Damian, John Kent, Or Terra ect. They keep doing this. They lack focus. Oh Wonder Girl and Robin are having relationship issues okay WHAT RELATIONSHIP we never really saw that aside form them holding hands! I could go one but this comment would be to long for youtube.

Sir that was great ty!

My interest in Young Justice began to fade with the new art style as it was like they were trying to cash in on the New 52 movies. Halo was by far my least favorite character as I feel like they gave her the spotlight way too much and her “deaths” should’ve had consequences but for some reason didn’t. This one is more personal but The Easter eggs in season 3 and 4 were so forced like the scooby doo ripoffs. In season 2 they used guitar riffs from Batman Beyond which caught me by surprised.

This series is adamant about keeping Wally West dead isn't it? Then again, mainline DC Comics have been screwing him over for years.

I'm so sick of the fast forward time-line where you lose track of who is who. They grew them up between seasons WAY TOO MUCH! They divided the narratives and arcs, as well as the characters too much. Then they use the same tactics over and over killing favorite characters off which really fng bites! Then they continually and constantly ripoff Game of Thrones storyline arc and do nothing but beat up on the good guys embarrassingly all season just to attempt to turn it around THE LAST EPISODE IN. All they have managed to do is turn the show into a public service announcement to promote current sociopolitical issues with today's society especially in teens. It's gotten too political. BLAH!

The time jumps have always been a problem for me weather just in the show or the 'cancellation/hiatus' Young justice was a great starting show to bring in more people... but if you wanted more content it would show you comics directly MADE for the show, but then it would also show you the 90s team that concided of kon, cassie, bart and tim- who are NOTHING alike between the two mediums Season 4 stars off with m'gann and Connor's wedding- i never really cared... but then I started thinking Connor has basically known m'gann his hole life wile she 60 years Martian-16 years human of age, and then you get to the 'hello Megan' show... did m'gann really love superboy or the idea of what the show? I never forgave m'gann for what she did to conner, he already didn't have much he drew the line at 'mind stuff' because he understood better then anyone how easy it is to manipulate someone- AND SHE WENT TO ERASE THE ARGUMENT, she basically mind-fucks people into getting information... who's to say la'ghann wasn't a victim to this manipulation as well WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO SEE THEM PROGRESS/MAKE THESE CHOICES In the comics it was very well explained WHY the Martians were racist, but I never understood WHY it mattered in the show because Martians can manipulate their body they all have mind powers and have a fear against fire- WHY IS RACISM A PROBLEM IN THEIR SOCIETY (don't give me the, belief in different gods- because jesus crist why would the show put that in as the reason, real weak sauce) So basically I already don't like m'gann and conner- so that's not keeping me in the show, my favourite character is tim drake- HE DOESN'T HAVE A VOICE ACTOR TO DEFEND HIMSELF- all we have is cassie saying "he's a bad boyfriend- boys are dumb- all men suck" the majority of the team is girls and 2 VERY uncomfortable guys who have to listen to this!- and the constant flipping of pov's to unrelated characters! Razor was done dirty, new fans to DC don't know who he is (especiallybecause he's NOT IN THE COMICS)- but if there's one thing to know about the lantern rings is that rage and hope DONT GO TOGETHER- not shoto toderoki magic bullshit should be possible! (Go watch green lantern the animated series- seriously good) Then there's the darkside thing... IN THE COMICS our heroes have fought against him well enough, honestly the light is just getting in the way I'm also sick of the fandom hoping wally will come back- WHAT IS HE COMING BACK TO???? Everything he knew has changed everyone is older, and they should have WAY passed moved on because its been 20 years or something, why did it take the characters THIS LONG to address all this shit (artimiss would be 30ish, and wally should be what early 20s... I don't like that age gap) And the show hints to a comic 'heroes in crisis'- its basically a tell don't show with a murder mystery, basically wally kills everyone because he's too fast or something- i don't know i haven't read it, and DEFINITELY haven't heard anything positive about it Basically WHO IS THIS SHOW FOR, its not for those who started the show because now there are too many characters to little screen time for them to shine Its not for comic fans because nothing is familiar And the episodes don't focus on a character long enough before switching to a different unrelated character- AND it essentially doesn't help IF YOU DON'T CARE FOR THAT CHARACTER ... there is a lot wrong with this show, its time to let it go, look into the other shows, pick up some comics- "fuck cannon- and make up your own AU, to cope with the non existent timeline" (Also they killed jason, but if young justice is the first time you heard that name your probably like 'jason who??'- this show is so not made for anyone, no one cared about jasonRobin so no one cares for red hoodJason... tim drake doesn't get the time)

Yeah, I agree about the characters. The show just keeps throwing random bodies on screen. Season 2 was kind of annoying, but enjoyable. It also felt like it had a coherent plot that wasn't all over the place. Even while divided, it was always a team effort in executing plans. I liked it. Season 3? I thought it was a missed opportunity to build upon Tim, Bart, Cassie, and Lagoon boy. The creators were too quick and eager to overshadow them and center focus around the new members. This show is called "Young Justice" but the canon founding members (Tim, Superboy, Bart, and Cassie) sure do get the short end of the stick. Season 4 is doing the same damn thing as 3...

Why were all these changes necessary?! If people want to make changes, it needs to be done right and with time and development!

I am somewhat understanding why people hate season 3 & 4 of Young Justice. I personally saw some of young justice when I was a kid, but never really watched every single episode of the first 2. I fully got into Young Justice because of season 3 & 4. I may have terrible tastes but I actually liked it. Going back and comparing the the first two and the latest 2 give us staunch differences. First thing is the art style change. The art style changed to possibly fit some budgeting and keeping up with current DC. The second important thing was budgeting. I did some digging and found out budget problems affected the last 2 heavily. This is why many things in the show are not on the same quality. The third and most important reason was the audience. It has been years between the seasons of Young Justice and so much had changed. The writers had to adapt with a new world and a new audience while trying to keep their old one. Season 3 kind of felt like a fun experiment. To see what they could do with everything they had. They got the results and then improved on Season 4. If things go well for them they can hopefully write season 5 better than all the previous seasons. What do you think Kardiac K?

3:41 you had me there for a second

After watching the whole of S4, I still think they are doing a good job but I agree so far from how it was in S1 and S2. While I can counter all of your arguments with two words: "Inevitable Expansion", I won't because of two things: 1. I agree with you that they jammed in a lot of stories into one short series with a short runtime, rushed pacing, and somewhat dragged on sideplots and; 2. While watching, I always felt myself gravitating towards the original team more than anyone new who was introduced. If only they separated the show into two versions like they did with JL TAS and go Young Justice and Young Justice Unlimited. Young Justice would focus on the perspectives of the original team while Unlimited will focus on the new members and the different sideplots. But again, budget, runtime, all that shit. Now for an unpopular opinion: What made every season after season 2 be inevitably bad... Was Season 2 itself. Why? Because it was where the "Inevitable Expansion" began. Introducing new characters was a good move but it also forced the writers to lose focus.

With the smaller budget, I wouldn't be surprised if any writer/story person couldn't return because the show couldn't afford them and that could explain a dip in quality.

I could respect your opinion more if it was linear . There is so much foreshadowing and it’s done so well even the fans miss it . Almost every episode ties into the each other and that’s even said for past seasons . I know we want our favorite characters all the time but this series does great jobs at building every character at once because the show goal is to build a universe , Earth-16. From a story telling standpoint the show is outstanding . Heavy , bloated at times but still very enjoyable and delicious . I’m hooked

I just binged all 4 seasons and I thought I was the only one that noticed how bad the animation got after season 2 and how incoherent the story became, i like the addition of static shock snd new characters but my God flesh them out a lil bit lol they just piling on characters at this point and I feel it should take a more tv MA approach as well

I still love the show it’s just as great as I remember and is still giving me everything I want

I disagree, there are many people who love this show then don't like it. I know

I like how young justice kind of changes up the mail cast and everything. I don’t know much at DC comics but it’s taught me a lot about new characters .

I actually like it...it strikes me as justice league unlimited mixed with teen titans...it's actually more mature than both there is more death than I expected....there's literally a girl who get a fatality every other episode

I actually still love Young Justice! I think season 4 is amazing!! But we can't all think the same way!

Season 3 I give a pass for it coming out of hiatus on a gamble due to fan wishes. Season 4 I enjoy especially as it’s concluding. I think your complaints boil down to preference of story telling and not liking how they tell the story. The series is not about individual characters. It a collage of young heroes developing with our main cast going from side kicks to mentors to taking lead in the justice league

Ugh, they keep killing off my male characters, first Wally, now Superboy.... I find that kind of annoying.

Really enjoyed your video but I just have to say I personally disagree with your take on season 4. I completely agree that the Zatana arc sucked, and it took up a good amount of episodes so it’s a definite damper on the season as a whole. But other than the Zatana arc I really enjoyed every other arc and side stories, sure it isn’t peak Young Justice but I feel that it’s a bit of a disservice to call it the absolute worst of Young Justice. Then again keep in mind this is coming from someone who has loved young justice since i was a kid so I might just be nostalgic.

I only watched season 1 when i was a kid and i just started rewatching the show recently……yeahhhh not looking forward to s3-4 anymore. Still gonna finish it tho even if it sounds like a complete mess

I like this review was made before it was over

In my point of view, the show fell off in Season 2 because of 2 reasons. 1. A lot of fan favorite characters like Tim Drake as Robin, Wonder Girl, Arrowette, Spoiler, Orphan, Dolphin and a few other new heroes are nothing more than back ground characters, including Robin, Spoiler and Orphan who are my favorites. 2. The unnecessary Timeskips as they raise more questions than ever like, when did Superboy and Miss Martian break up, when did Robin become Night Wing, when did Wally West and Artemis leave to go to college, why did Night Wing and Zatanna break up, how did Tula die? Well that last question is answered in a terrible tie in game. Season 3 was deemed to be the worst by most fans. I’m one of those few fans who found the main problem of both seasons 3 and 4 is the unnecessary blood and gore as it’s trying way too hard to be adult. Don’t forget the shoehorned sex scenes and a massive downgrade in animation as most of the important scenes are in still frames. At least X-Men 97 did a lot of the darker elements a lot better. Plus the animation and character writing is a lot better.

I understand where you’re coming from but Dick, Artemis, Kaldur, Superboy, Miss Martian, Zatanna and Rocket where the Season 1 originals, that’s why they’re getting focus this season. Every other character is just set dressing to showcase the time being passed in the DC universe. Characters from Season 2 like Cassie, Tim, Jaimie, Bart etc are not the main characters. I don’t understand why you dislike the Arc structure of Season 4 when that’s the best way of showcasing and focusing on a character? Also I think Season 4 has been WAY better than Season 3 so I’m a bit confused there.

They have too many different people and make the main story too complicated.

Nah Nigga, season 4 brought the quality back up, cause the OG squad linked up at a point. The build up to Dru and Lor Zod was masterfully written which tied into the everyone else’s arc. Even earlier in the season with the shows take on Vandal savage and his connection to Atlantis and Nabu reminded me why I fell in love with the writing in this show. It is more PC and woke, but it’s tolerable and it doesn’t take away from the experience. Mannn I really wish these writers would write some of the live action movies. DC stays sleeping on their Animated Universe writers/directors.

The only good arcs they've had so far are the one at the beginning with Megan or the misses ark and currently it seems to be the ark with Nightwing I wanted to get to know rocket and zatanna more but the arch they gave them were boring and I don't know what they were thinking I honestly think that if they are going to get more seasons they're not going to really explore the original characters again sadly I think they're doing this season to get the original characters out the way so they can focus more on the newer characters they brought in and now they're trying to bring in the legion of superheroes mixed in with that and it's just going to be messy from now on I'm sure there are some fans who still like this but from what I send on RU-vid and Twitter and even some parts of Tumblr not a lot of the original fans who started watching this show like you and me since 2010 are really feeling what they're doing with the seasons I don't know who's writing artemis's ark or Megan's ark and nightwing's ark but maybe they should do more writing like that where they bring up season one stuff that never got resolved and really finish it and focus on that more I never arrived with the whole outsiders thing I forgot about Halo I don't care about Brianna I don't even remember furniture was a part of the team in season 3 cuz his character just seemed irrelevant and I really didn't care I'm at the point where I don't even care about the heroes they brought in in season 2 kind of I just hope if they do more seasons that they give us more focus on these original characters again cuz I still feel there's a bit more they could explore with all of them as much as I will know people want Wally to come back I hope they don't bring him back because he would just get put on the sideline and I don't think they would do much with his character besides try to put him back in a relationship with Artemis and that's it I think Artemis and Wally should say stay separate from each other cuz it finally feels like they're treating Artemis like a character again and not just like she's a part of a couple and I think they would do that with Wally is just put him in a thing where he's a couple again and we wouldn't get fun joking while he just get Wally who's a part of a couple or nightwing's best friend and that's it

Great Video! I think another aspects of the show that used to be great but is not anymore is the artstyle and animation quality... The Artstyle didn't need to be changed at all. It was already Awesome in the first 2 seasons and them changing for the 3rd and 4th season was not necessary at all. The new Artstyle made the characters look uglier and I don't wanna see the excuse of "oh they changed it to show the characters aging" Look at the characters from Season 1 and 2, even after the 5 years time jump, the characters (for the most part) look kind of the same as the 1st season difference is they are taller, older, more matured now and the change seemed natural (A Great example would have to be Nightwing). It seemed to me like the Artstyle changed was just an excuse to make the show look like the current DC Animated Universe Movies and TV-Shows which I strongly Dislike because the first 2 season art style made the show look unique and made it seem like it was from the comics, but now it just looks bland, generic, and ugly to look at. The Animation Quality took a big hit as well. The Animation looks alot more stiffer and unnatural compare to Season 1 and 2 and its most likely the budget being lowered (and pandemic made it worse for Season 4 productions) and with studio MIR having to animate all 26 episodes for the 4th season probably made it even worse and time consuming. So I can understand why but the animations quality is still not good... Sorry for this long comment I just wanted to get this off my mind.

Imagine trying to tell 5 to 6 stories at the SAME TIME🤦‍♂️. Young Justice Season 4 had more potential than 3 cause those arcs had promise but because they were SO RUSHED and 90% of the characters in them WERE RANDOS...it all cluminated into a heaping pile of...I could care less if this series was renewed. It was like 10 DIFFERENT writers had their hand on yhe Steering Wheel at the SAME TIME. Shoutout to Supergirl in the post credits though was literally questioning her lack of presense in this entire series during the show when she's literally one of THE most ICONIC kid heroes. But other than that...I'm good with just knowing Miss Martian and Superboy got married and the rest I can pretty much just headcanon And can we TALK about all those damn COPOUT DEATHS. They did it with Wally...but bro is in the SPEED FORCE lets just be honest as much as the Greg says he hates it, we ALL know Jason is ALIVE and THEN they pull the same BS with Conner like COME ON😭🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Season 4 ONLY got good when they DROPPED all the NOBODIES and picked ONE plotline AT THE VERY END with the Zod Invasion. Everything else was GARBAGE and HOT TRASH cause EVERYON'S DEVELOPMENT is DONE...OFF...SCREEN. Even Beast Boys so called "depression"

After seeing so much of the new episodes the show could have been great. But as time goes on yeah...it's getting worse. My main question why did Connor revert back to his old programing? And don't tell me it's the phantom zone messing with him. He's stronger than that. He remembered the original Kid Flash.

Bruh you might need to make another video on it. The latest episodes have been fire

Yeah not a fan of season 3 too. But I think season 4 is much better and I definitely am enjoying it more.

The woke garbage, the messy plots, the obvious budget cuts, the bad writing, bad voice acting and the inclusion of way too many damn characters did it for me

You could’ve waited to season 4 was over so you could give a fairer and more accurate opinion

this show went downhill fast

Knew season 4 was going to be terrible after seeing Beastboy storyline on his Twitter pandering for that idiotic "Outsider" label. Making Lex quote Donald Trump was also cringe

The AT&T hat is crazy

Watching this exhausted me honestly 🥱🥱

Like it or not, my man is spittin facts

@KardiacK Okay I get how you could think that season 4 was all over the place but if you pay really close attention to the plot it really wasn’t and I’ll break it up into the arcs. Superboy and ms martians arc was the introduction to the season with its main point being superboys “death”. Then we go to Artemis with her main point being.. well her arc didn’t really tie in other than showing us how she is continuing to cope with the death of Wally and now the death of superboy while also giving us amazing character development for Cheshire and setting up Artemis for the night wing which I’ll explain when I get there…huh guess her arc was kinda important in a way 😅. Anywho next is the zatana arc which is important in two big ways if you watched the post credit scene at the end of the season. Zatanas arc set up Mary in how she was, in her mind, wronged by zatana and the others which made her quit Z’s group which sets Mary up for the big reveal of her being by darkseids side on apocalypse with supergirl, in turn setting us up for season 5 without us even realizing til the very very end of phantoms. The other very important part of zatanas arc was Z finding out by repairing klarions damage while he was searching for a familiar that superboy was indeed alive! The whole Child thing was weird and all but outside of that Z’s arc was very important. Then we have aqualads arc which explained the lifespan of savage and the fall of Atlantis to tie in how savage planned to use a mixture of a clone of his grandson and orms mind to try to take over all of Atlantis and sea dwellers and it also showed the characters fighting of a fire pillar that Child used to try to destroy Atlantis. This arc was also not as important as the others but it did show us Aqua lad finally taking a short break for himself which set him up for Nightwings arc as well. Now come, in a way, the most important arcs rocket and nightwing. Rockets arc was very important. It showed how the justice league the green lantern corps and the new gods attempting to make a very powerful alliance to prepare for darkseid if need be which is awesome, but outside of that it advances the story in showing us that superboy is actually in the phantom zone with the house of zod and also shows general zods son and how he is trying to release everyone from the phantom zone which of course is most important cuz the zods are the main key point in this season. Now finally we get to nightwings arc which shows what we have all been waiting for in most of the classic characters from the series trying to figure out how to get to the phantom zone to save superboy which also leads to the giant season finally of the team and the legion of superheroes who were trying to prevent superboys death throughout the entire season fighting against the zods and winning and then the seasons end with the Mary and supergirl thing I mentioned that was built up for s5. This was a lot and I hope it shows that the arc plots indeed were all important to the plot in their own significant ways and shows that the writing for this season was indeed not trash but a well written season that just required patience some brain power to see how this entire season tied together. Young Justice is still my all time favorite series by dc that is still ongoing and it is not trash at all. I here your opinion and I respect your opinion but I disagree with it largely and I hope this break down helped show that the season wasnt trashy written at all it just wasnt as straight forward as season one was 😊

I think everyone is saying the same thing they added too many characters. I think they could’ve tried to learn from how justice league unlimited did it with all the new characters they slowly introduced ..

It’s funny because I think the head writer of the show said that there’s been a lot more people watching Young Justice sins season four which is funny

I was a fan of the show from s1 to s2 and wanted the show to come back but I have really not liked the show at all ever since it's come back. S3 was a huge disappointment it was boring, forgettable as hell it was a drag to get through all the episodes. The show has way too many characters but doesn't utilise most of them, they keep focusing on characters I really don't care about. The budget of the show feels less than before the animation looks worse than what it was in S1 and 2, some characters don't have voices I will never forgive them for what they did to Tim Drake one of my favourite characters in DC( he only speaks in one episode and is silent throughout even when other characters are directly speaking to him). A show called young justice doesn't focus on young superheroes like Cassie, blue beatle, impulse etc. The biggest problem I have with the show is that it's just not fun to watch.

3:59 the thing that bothered me the most was that they forgot that Black widow was there then mother/therapist. So I made no sense that beast boy went through his depression art why couldn't they just hide the fact that he was going through depression from Black Canary instead of just taking her out. That was one of the moments that bothered me about season 3 not including season 4. Personally I didn't like the fact that they also put Superboy and his marriage to the forefront of the whole season3.

The biggest mistake that happened in that show is the multiplicity of characters that made the story distracting, not to mention the low quality of episodes in season 4 and also the situation of that Muslim girl I mean really it is not necessary to talk about any divine religion this is a TV show for fun and most importantly Muslims are not homosexuals like this It was so filthy I have the book the most important question is will it get any worse than it is?

I got to disagree. Don’t get me wrong season 2 is the best season of YJ while season 3 is the worst. But this new mini arc they are doing in season 4 is amazing to me. Mini arcs allow the writers to explore new genres, demonstrate how lived in the world is, and keep the “young” in young justice while still allowing the characters to age. Zatanna’s arc is the weakest of season 4, but most of that has to do with DC’s magic system issues. I’m hoping that this whole magic arc is an investment in the future for better magic stories that they couldn’t have done otherwise. With how many call backs they included in this season alone, you can’t doubt that if given the opportunity the writers will make good on the other story lines they got started. It’s just not all stories can work for the same main story. They chose the right stories to explore for this season. I especially liked that the light wasn’t the main bad guy this season and just in the background. It’s refreshing to not have the same villains over and over again. Sorry you don’t like the show man. I wish you did.

Y’all gotta understand young justice after season 1 and 2 has changed completely it already has told the arcs of our main team and now Snice it’s not consider a kid show at all they can show the themes they always wanted to show even if people don’t want to explore a lot of these themes and have so many fucking characters it ridiculous but my Favourite character Super Boy got good moments and still got some moments to come some of my favourite being Like in season three the raid on the meta trafficking fight club Where Connor fights Mammoth again without the Shields and really won probably with better training and a blast from the bio ship but still whooped his ass at they probably fought the most in the whole series like they have 5 fights scenes in all of young justice much more than any character Connor friendship with JR continues which was awesome to see again Artemis got good moments too and the season 4 arcs are still interesting and really love Lor zod and his squad and child only new villains we really got that were the main ones at least but yeah I m still happy we got something for one our favourite child hood shows though it matured quite a lot and definitely changed forever

this may not age well based on these last few eps

The first and the second season had the same problem about the characters and the disconnection between chapters and plots, but those weren't too bad as the season 3 and four. They believed that, adding limitless characters season after season, the series was going to be better, but it has just shown how they never learn that we liked the series because of the characters and how well they were developed in the first season.

I agree there were some bust spots but the story with Superbly and Zod brought me back in.

This show went down hill cause they kept introducing new characters and people wanted the original characters back. Also this show did feck all with darkseid. There's only so many times you can have darkseid in the background until it becomes boring. There's also to much buildup to final crisis storyline with a crap payoff. Also s4 becomes incredibly woke.

I mean I feel you I feel you all I haven't finished watching season 4 but holy crap Young Justice when it came back it came back for the worst and I don't know what happened I don't know why but this show isn't the business anymore. I always say it after season 2 that whole time skip thing that they did can only be done once but they keep doing it every season and then they treat us the viewers as if we already knew what happened between the years that been skipped because they literally talk about things as if the audience has already seen it and we haven't seen it. It is a problem because it is a mixed Marsh of characters to be honest a lot of characters haven't really gotten that much attention since season 1 to be honest and then you're bringing them back for season 4 and it's just like season 2 and 3 you should have been developing them instead of bringing in new characters you know I mean what they need to do is they need to look at how Justice League Unlimited where they brought in new characters but what they should be where Young Justice like they did with Justice League first is focus on the team for season 1 let those characters grow and have at least two seasons to themselves then what season 2 should have been should have been season 3 then you could have had what season 3 is could have been season 4 and what season 4 is could have been season 5 without some of the time skip that's the major Crux of it is all over the place and the time skip is so lazy. I understand they want to do some kind of mystery thing or whatever or get us a you know put the clues together on what happened but it gets kind of annoying at this stage of the game

All these past seasons have been the focus of "the light", but that became confined. More developments needed to be made, for example to characters have grown,we have the entire galaxy now to explore, look episode 21,22 of season 4.... Witchboy just got a backstory explained,together with the chaos and lords of order. Vandal savage and his corporation....