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Young Muslims Leaving Islam | Ali A. Rizvi & Armin Navabi 

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@4evaavfc
@4evaavfc 7 лет назад
It takes courage to leave a religion like Islam. Those who leave are to be commended.
@vicachcoup
@vicachcoup 7 лет назад
Courage? Do they live in Afghanistan?
@vicachcoup
@vicachcoup 7 лет назад
I doubt that very much. The risk of you getting killed for apostacy in the US is minute. Can you think of examples where that has happened. You are more likely to be killed by a person who hates Islam for being a muslim. We have plenty of examples of that. It takes more courage to be a muslim and have the media and general population , not too mention the president against you then it is to be an apostate who instantly gains street cred by society. It is tough to remain in a faith that is under attack on so many levels. Which is one of the major reasons people apostasize.
@vicachcoup
@vicachcoup 7 лет назад
A lot of what we write is autobiography. Read your post with insight.
@yummyburger2818
@yummyburger2818 6 лет назад
vicachcoup you dont understand at all, dont you? Nobody understand ex muslim. If we leave the fanatics will kill us. Because it is a rule that Allah want. So whoever kill the apostate will grant heaven If they live in the country where killed is forbidden they will bully you until you suicide. They will do anything to make you die. That is the rule.
@svetlanikolova7673
@svetlanikolova7673 5 лет назад
@@vicachcoup People get butchered everywhere but they cover it up! Are you this stupid? America hides what true Islam is because it goes against their NWO agenda
@Meloman0001
@Meloman0001 7 лет назад
Great work SSFS! Very courageous of the speakers to talk about such an important issue.
@peaceandlove5214
@peaceandlove5214 5 лет назад
I left Islam and proud.
@dahoaishdoa929
@dahoaishdoa929 7 лет назад
I'm 16 years old living in france, and living islam is harder than i thought
@dahoaishdoa929
@dahoaishdoa929 7 лет назад
I already left but my family don't know it yet, I think I'll have to finish my studies to be more independant ...
@ranrae3712
@ranrae3712 7 лет назад
Melrom Yes , please , don't tell them now , tell them when you are an adult , stay safe
@yummyburger2818
@yummyburger2818 6 лет назад
Kinana Al Rabi in France, the only people do that is the fanatics. Yes there are the fanatics even in France. Just dont be friends or marry fanatics
@amz.1234
@amz.1234 5 лет назад
@Nym GRACE who said that your life is in danger if you leave in a Muslim country. Allah said in the qur'an that if they want to believe, let them believe. If they want to disbelieve, then let them disbelieve
@khairowensullivan7489
@khairowensullivan7489 6 лет назад
Armin is badass. "I changed my mind so I don't have to be a good muslim coz I'm not a muslim anymore" #ExMuslim
@koownmyo
@koownmyo 5 лет назад
khairowensullivan I
@fifimsp
@fifimsp 6 лет назад
Armin is such a beautiful person.
@alliedatheistalliance6776
@alliedatheistalliance6776 7 лет назад
Very well said! I've been trying to make this point for years, that religions have no business crying about "intolerance", full as they are of intolerance against other faiths, and lack of faith.
@alliedatheistalliance6776
@alliedatheistalliance6776 7 лет назад
BTW is it true there was another cult leader in Mohammed's time who was his arch enemy? I find that hilarious for some reason.
@alliedatheistalliance6776
@alliedatheistalliance6776 7 лет назад
On the point of people being defensive of Islam, not surprisingly Muslims will say 'why do you only pick on Islam', and christians will do the same for christianity, but what I think he is referring to is how some atheists become defensive of Islam. I think this comes down to ignorance, basically a conflation of Islam as an ideology with the fact that most Muslims are ethnic minorities within the US, Canada, Europe etc. This conflation in their minds of Islam with racial identities makes them act like criticism of Islam is simply just racism. Some actually might be, some people who fairly obviously hate gay people then attack Islam for being homophobic. So it's clearly not a disagreement with the ideology but an excuse to attack a group of people. I also see things like rape of boys blamed on Islam, when in reality Islam is pretty clear any form of homosexuality is punishable by death. Anyway I think the tack to take in this regard is to use the language of the regressives, we need to ask why Ex-Muslims are being marginalised by other atheists, why Ex Muslims are not being given the same degree of respect in terms of their right to criticise their religion. By using their own language and paradigms we can challenge this idea of Islamic exceptionalism.
@alliedatheistalliance6776
@alliedatheistalliance6776 7 лет назад
Sorry don't mind me, just responding to various points here.. I think the key to changing minds, at least some, in the regressive left, is actually going to come from the far left. We need to start or support a far left movement that rejects identity politics, and resurrects the anti-theist vein of leftism, applied to Islam as well as other religions. This would hopefully filter through to the more radical liberals, and the anti-Islam platform would no longer be monopolised by the right.
@Mitun-jg5qz
@Mitun-jg5qz 7 лет назад
In my opinion. If you're a believer in the almighty otherwise if you are not . It doesn't matter because not one religion has no solid proof in an certain afterlife. Let us as human beings just respect non violence.
@alishahid2936
@alishahid2936 7 лет назад
Awesome talk, thanks for uploading
@ankra12
@ankra12 5 лет назад
Must be liberating.
@maganmagan9422
@maganmagan9422 Месяц назад
I love these guys!
@zeabferoz8776
@zeabferoz8776 7 лет назад
such enlightenment......with great minds like these and the analysis of the quran given here im surprised why theres any muslims left in the world lol......loons
@vicachcoup
@vicachcoup 7 лет назад
Great minds? hmmmm . . . .
@vicachcoup
@vicachcoup 7 лет назад
that is just a personal opinion masquerading as fact.
@agauvreau5510
@agauvreau5510 5 лет назад
@@magusguitars i could nt say it better !!
@afifkhaja
@afifkhaja 4 года назад
Great talk!
@mathewtitus49
@mathewtitus49 5 лет назад
I am politically Christian conservative. My best neighbour is a gay couple. I love them but I don't like their lifestyle. E.g. if my son become alcoholic or addicted...I hate his destructive lifestyle, but I love him. LGBTQ are human with God given rights & freewill just like I enjoyed. We hate sin, not the sinner. They are my brothers & sisters.
@eddyavailable
@eddyavailable 5 лет назад
Well at least you arent trying to stone them hehehe.
@pramodwilson2354
@pramodwilson2354 3 года назад
I wish for a program as important and interesting as this, the camera would pan around the audience in the room occasionally, and on the individuals, when they are asking their questions. By the way, my admiration for all the ex muslims grows day by day. Their sense of morality is admirable.
@cinmai978
@cinmai978 5 лет назад
If people arent allowed to offend then all we do is praise. We would be all fake.
@afifkhaja
@afifkhaja 4 года назад
Message to Saudi Arabia: Free Raif Badawi
@Rico-Suave_
@Rico-Suave_ 2 года назад
I think I watched this before, in another upload
@eddyavailable
@eddyavailable 5 лет назад
Imagine using deepfake voice and face to commit blasphemy lol....free speech is a must in the future.
@seemabarman4935
@seemabarman4935 5 лет назад
The oldest root of Islam has been uprooted.
@agauvreau5510
@agauvreau5510 5 лет назад
more and more leaving this cult!
@Hashishin13
@Hashishin13 6 лет назад
Lol the auto caption thinks the questions are music.
@YenkammaNe
@YenkammaNe 3 года назад
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU? By Francois Gautier. Diversity in Divinity and Unity in Spirituality. 1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted 2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik 3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak. 4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman. 5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools. 6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it. 7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure ! 8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead. 9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest. 10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion) 11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi. 12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy. 13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic ! 14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship). 15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy 16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan. 17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study ! 18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped. 19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism! "Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family) 20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival. Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year. 21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu. 22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved. 23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu! 24) You know that Hinduism ☺ is a way of life, with considerable freedom. 25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe! 26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint. 27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily) You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu! This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!! There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every direction "
@theblackwomanizgodatheismi8807
#ExChristian
@MirzaSarkar
@MirzaSarkar 4 года назад
No rationality just excuses. Guys please get logic and rationality of thought in your speeches. You are just complaining.
@BlazingLove316
@BlazingLove316 7 лет назад
Overwhelming evidence of Jesus Christ and what he spoke of makes the most sense. Not to mention testimonials.
@Mitun-jg5qz
@Mitun-jg5qz 7 лет назад
I am a proud Hindu
@Mitun-jg5qz
@Mitun-jg5qz 7 лет назад
I'm born in England. I'm a Hindu. COME TO INDIA.
@Summerspeaker
@Summerspeaker 7 лет назад
Armin Navabi expresses an awfully narrow conception of freedom of speech. Facebook is much, much more like a park than it is like a house. Social pressures, including harassment, *can* curtail freedom of expression. State violence is of course the most extreme way to silence people, but it's not the only one.
@eddyavailable
@eddyavailable 5 лет назад
Its more like a hybrid of house and park. It has a tag on it..if you dont like it you dont go there, especially if you are someone very sensitive and easily resort to violence. Have love and peace.
@theblackwomanizgodatheismi8807
="#ff0000Hi
@vicachcoup
@vicachcoup 7 лет назад
This was boring - pity because I would have like to have heard their arguments for disbelieving in Islam. All I heard were social reasons from what I listened to.
@vicachcoup
@vicachcoup 7 лет назад
Well it's a pity I didn't get to hear there intellectual argument [if there was one]
@vicachcoup
@vicachcoup 7 лет назад
The title of the video is 'young muslims leaving Islam' Perhaps the uploader should have been more honest or accurate in his title if as you claim the subject was about the importance of free speech to apostates.
@JuliaBl
@JuliaBl 6 лет назад
vicachcoup gosh, is there an intellectual argument for believing???
@tulpas93
@tulpas93 Год назад
​@vicachcoup Perhaps you should expect less from things you get effortlessly, for free on the internet. The uploader owes you NOTHING! Some of what you complianed about lacking (elsewhere in your numerous selfish, derogatory comments) was actually presented in the interview! More importantly, what you are looking for is readily available elsewhere (for free on the internet). So stop bitching and whining, put some effort into it, and go get what you want!
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