100%! He conveniently forgot to mention that part of the Judicial Conduct rule that states when ex-parte communications do happen that it is required that "the judge makes provision promptly to notify all other parties of the substance of the ex parte communication, and gives the parties an opportunity to respond.". He straight up denied the meeting ever happened and threw Steele in JAIL for not telling him how he found out about the meeting!
What's crazy is when The Boss attorney was making argument for Mr. Steele, she cited a 1980s case. That wasn't good enough for this judge (it was too old). Now that the judge is putting in his order, he's citing 1980s cases in his defense. Now it's good enough!🤔😂
When he was reading his reflection of the occurrences in the court regarding the Contempt of Court with Mr. Steele, I would either say he sugars coated it so much it makes you sick or he flat out lied about. I watched the actual hearing and he was so out of control!
That is exactly what I said. He didn't "decide" this "upon further review." He is doing this because the Supreme Court and appeals court are going to force his hand. He just wanted to come out before the appellate court could rule on the new Writ of Mandamus. He wants to pretend or give an appearance of his transparency and that he believes he acted properly! He knows he didn't but he is giving it his all to make justifications for why he acted the way he did!
And he deliberately misinterprets the law and case law to fit his narrative and rulings! He knows his interpretation of the case law he sited or that the attorneys have argued to him is incorrect but he twists it on the record purposefully to justify his misconduct!
Just like the judge did with the defense attorneys, many times Copeland went to point out another lie by the prosecutor, the judge jumps in and cuts him off. This judge should be held in criminal contempt himself. HE should be disbarred and jailed for corruption.
If they're case is rock solid and they are seeking "justice", there's no need for all this snady nonsense. The judge and prosecution is an embarrassment to the judicial branch. I really hope that young thug learns his lesson and avoids returning to the old hood ways. Once you make it out, you can't go back without someone trying to pull you down.
Remember when the video surfaced of Judge signaling to Hylton during the testimony of Woody and the court reporters shoes being white. After reading the transcript and her coaching him how to testify about inconsistent statements and purgery explaining if I say the sky is blue and you say red, I think the Judge was signaling move on before he says something that happened in the ex parte because Woody was trying to tell us in his own way what happened in the Judges chambers if you go back and watch his testimony, it’s really eye opening.
Usually the lawyer and his Dad are very measured and diplomatic when criticising a lawyer or Judge. In this video I have never heard them be so direct and black and white in criticising this Judge and prosecution. It sounds like a no nonsense major ass-kicking.
For real-they absolutely drop the gloves when they talk about this judge. Just goes to show how bad this judge is to incur the wrath of these two gentlemen who always give the benefit of the doubt.
“A defense lawyer would be arrested if they did this stuff - A defense lawyer would be in jail”. Heck - a defense lawyer DID get thrown in jail for even asking about this convo! Spot on Papa T!
Is it not super suspcious that the state waited for the moment that Mr. Melnick had time that he wasnt available (which they knew about for months), waited for that specific time to pull Mr. Copeland aside and start talking to him?? This seems incredibly set up. This is insane.
100%! They knew well ahead of time that Melnick could not be there! It was most certainly set up that way to have the absolute most leverage on Woody. Disgusting.
I believe they were hoping that Atty Bumpus, unsuspecting of the f**kery, would go along with the railroading without question. When they attempted to make her the attorney of record, I thought to myself that Atty Melnick was complicit. Why would he withdraw without telling her what was going on? Either way, she wasn't having it
@@k8mcawesome especially saying that Infront of the judge without him admonishing her, sounds like she is use to saying any unethical statement Infront of this judge, together with the hand signs they send each other they are the thugs and gang members threatening, hand signs, ganging up on witnesses, cheating, lying.....on and on I can go
upside down world of the american legal system where incompetence and delays are the norm. Imagine trying to run a business with the legal system as your model.
@@XorbunThao trump lawyer that flipped and was found guilty of perjury prior. what a tangled web of lies and deceit was woven. democracy,communism, etc all have one thing in common: political corruption.
@@billkehler this goes through my mind every time I watch coverage of this trial. If it takes full time media coverage and a top-shelf defence attorney to expose this judge then I can’t imagine how many less fortunate people have fallen victim to this judge’s inability to put his pride aside.
Ashleigh Merchant (who represented Steel in his contempt hearing) said it was crazy the Judge & Prosecutors didn't understand what Melnick was signalling with the "if my client testifies I am withdrawing." She said it's known as a "noisy withdrawal" and it's when you believe your client, by testifying, will potentially be committing perjury. She said Melnick was doing his legal and ethical duty by threatening to withdraw & that the Court and Counsel should have immediately understood that.
Well, the prosecution has been exposed as having nothing but mouth breathing morons in their prosecutorial staff from the very top all the way down. The best part is Willis will be re-elected with about 70 percent of the vote. The non taxpaying voters of Fulton County will see to that.
It's something you learn about in law school. A lawyer is not allowed to suborn perjury. A lawyer also isn't allowed go tell a court that their client is going to lie. Therefore the only logical thing left to do is to withdraw. And anyone who has taken 1L Crim Law knows exactly what it means. Its a noisy withdrawl.
The judge said . Like Mrs love told you earlier.. page 41.. there is no transcript of love in the room when woody was in the room! There is something missing!
That's because the other woman miss hilton was alone with woody all that time at the beginning of this transcript went on god knows what she was saying to him And miss Bumpus.His attorney was in there with ada love and noy woody That's very interesting and when she found out that miss Hilton and Woody had been in another room.The whole time talking miss bumpus never said anything about that!!!
Just watched an interview with woody, and he and his ex attorney bumpus who was present stated even the minute's they finally got hold of were redacted and missing vital information.
The part that really worries me is that it seems like they were so casual about the whole thing. Like this is just normal, every day conversation with a witness. No concern for the rights of the defendants, the witness himself, no one. How many witnesses has this prosecution team done this to?
Kayla Bumpass, a guest on another channel said the timing is off. 3-4 court deputies 2 DA investigators (cops) 2 ADAs Love/Hylton Judge Woody Copeland 1 stand in Atty. Ms. Bumpass for Woody. If that isn't intimidation or coercion, what is?
@@TerriJanehe had a planned vacation when all this went down….he was in court and explained it to the judge. Judge told him to be there or have a stand in.
I haven't been following much on the YSL case but I saw dad is in on this video... I clicked so fast. Lol! Love when you bring your dad in! Y'al are both awesome!
Attorney Bumpus said on another stream that the timeline the Judge claimed was wrong. The way the Judge gave the timeline has to be accurate with the court reporter, but personally I think it would unfortunately be tampered with. If you look closely at the court reporter’s face when Brian Steele was making his record and he said “ Copeland said he was the one who committed the murder “ the court reporter’s neck almost snapped and she looked directly at the Prosecutor table. There are so many things in this case that seem to be “ not right “. I wouldn’t put it past them to commit other false claims to cover their ( Y ) . You can see also the closeness between the Judge and the reporter . I don’t trust any of them.
Boy O Boy, with Fani Willis having to deal with her own allegations of corruption and this being her top prosecutor is bad enough, Granville's issues on top of that isn't fairing well for the integrity of Atlanta's judicial system.
Have you met the US Supreme Court? The ones that ride around on yachts and then rule in favor of the yacht owner. They don't even have ethics rules, they have self enforced guidelines that they ignore. There's nothing trustworthy in our legal system right now. Prosecutors and cops lie, judges help them, and the rich get away with anything they want. Conservatives have gutted accountability in our judicial system in just about 15 years.
Bro, these are not the same thing. She had a relationship and if that’s something corrupt, you best imagine the rate of corruption throughout courts would be enormous
@@Igotnothin_She used tax payer funds & covid emergency funds to hire her boyfriend & go on expensive vacations at tax payer expense! Si much worse that just commiting adultery, which is a crime & a legal crime in that state! People/children destroyed in process, let's not make light of the consequences & resulting damages of adultery!
imo, the worrisome part is how it’s another indictment of the government - Both the judicial and executive branch. There’s already widespread mistrust of police, and prosecutors. I saw it myself, with a judge owning a law firm and employing attorneys that practice in her court. When stuff like this happens from a judge, the allegations of corruption get louder. The two are probably irrelevant to each other.. but it doesn’t look good at all.
Juror #3 for the Karen Read trial said they did puzzles when the jury was waiting for trial testimony to resume. This YSL trial jury could be building model ships while they're waiting for testimony to resume.
This Rico trial was going to be extremely difficult to prosecute. It would take a genius Judge and genius prosecution to make it work. And that is not what we got here.
That’s somewhat true there is so much more evidence from both sides it’s hard to tell outcome . Let’s be honest a new judge don’t mean a victory for Thug and them it could hurt them even worse. As of now they have dam good mistrial case it judge does stay on.
He also gives a snopsis of what occurred in the court room when he held Mr. Steele in contempt of court. But he gave a very watered down version of it. Because I watched the actual hearing.
Attorney Bumpus said they told Copeland he’d be held “ indefinitely”! She also said people were in and out of chambers constantly. She laughed at the comment when the Judge said “ Attorney Bumpus was seen speaking to Brian Steele and Attorney Adam’s” She has worked for the court for years and is often seen speaking to other attorneys. His comments were ridiculous, she said the attorneys knew most of what was said before she spoke to them. Please tell me the Prosecutors can be brought up on any charges for what they did, honestly it sickens me to think they are supposed to uphold the law and instead they abuse it.
What's the purpose of pleading of the 5th when the state can force immunity on you to force you to testify. While the testimony can't be used in court. The testimony can be used by investigators to open up new avenues to prosecute Copeland. Notice there were two investigators in the ex-parte meeting.
There are legitimate reasons why the courts can compel testimony, and giving witness blanket immunity means the only thing their testimony can be used against are other people so there are no 5th amendment violations. If the court cant compel testimony from witnesses then the legal system grinds to a halt as no one has to answer questions ever.
If you're going to plead the 5th, you don't accept the immunity deal. Immunity deals specify that you must testify honestly and cannot withhold any information when answering questions under oath.
@@davidlazerz8564 Yes, and a witness (or defendant) is not compelled to agree to the immunity agreement. Don't want to testify? Don't sign the agreement.
He didn't have to sign anything the prosecution takes a chance and grants a witness immunity thinking hopefully they were told the truth. In the prosecution is giving him is out only thing he has to say on the stand is I don't recall and just keep saying I don't recall. Bacon impeach him all they want You can't go to jail for that. Good news he is a horrible witness for the state they should have just let him pick the fifth and moved on 😂😂
The judge gave bad legal advice to Woody, by stating that he can’t be charged with crimes he testifies to. But the prosecutor can change Woody if they get evidence independent of his testimony. Plus clearly the judge and the prosecutor had exparte communications, as evidenced by reference to matters that were not discussed on the record.
Agreed. If Woody states that he committed murders, and the defendants then assert that he committed the same murders, that constitutes the outside sources that Atty Hylton referenced. Someone unrelated to the proceedings could also make those assertions, and the result would be the same: an admission to committing crimes that you are now able to be prosecuted for.
I've been an attorney in NC for 14 years and in my opinion the state of GA should attempt to recoup the costs of this circus from the retirement benefits of DA Fani Willis, ADA Adrian Love and Chief Resident Superior Court Judge Ural Glanville....
That's exactly what they should do, and I really hope they do that these people need to be taught a serious lesson they should all go to jail as well and see how it feels
Doug Weinstein did an interview and said all the Fulton county judges will have to recuse themselves, this should go to another county. He likely knows those judges too, though.
Pleading the 5th is his right. By giving him immunity took that right away from him. Common sence is that they intentionally took away his right to chose for himself. They backed him into a corner. Good for him to plead the 5th anyway. He should be able to sue their butts off.
Few thoughts… 46:19 the judge allowed Love to recap what she overheard Melnick advise Copeland before he plead the fifth that Friday. -Not only do the prosecutors have a disregard of Copeland’s life, so does the judge. It was evident when Glanville basically said if he suffers harms it’s collateral consequences of testifying. -I’m willing to bet money that this was not the first ex parte communication with witnesses. Remember when the female who was arrested on the material witness warrant told the investigator to have the judge call her???
I believe he said in a previous stream that he bought his dad an entire set up too. Like with a mic and everything but he refuses to use it. Personally I think it makes the sound issues all the more adorable 😂
isnt the dad also a lawyer that has been in the business for ages? What do you expect from him, to *not* bring up sound issues? Now *that* would be something worth commenting about.
As an attorney, I can tell you that this happens quite often. Oftentimes, they grant state witnesses immunity. But often, use coercion to get what they want. I've seen judges recuse themselves. Removed off the bench and often times disbarred. Missouri doesn't play that game. I'm just glad Chief Justice got caught. It's unethical. Unconstitutional. All attorneys must be notified and given the option to attend or not too.
This case should be dismissed because of all the corruption. I bet the judges and ada have done this many times, this is just the first time they got caught. CHECKMATE
why should the case be dismissed? YSL just gets away with all their crimes because the judge was an idiot? Having a mistrial is one thing, *that* would be justified, but to dismiss the claims and ignore all the major crimes would be idiotic and even criminal.
@@SpydersByte I agree with you. However, the way our justice system works is that we all have a right to a fair trial and when there is judicial and/or prosecutorial misconduct there are consequences. Sometimes it is a mistrial. Sometimes it's a new judge. Sometimes it's dismissed without prejudice, and sometimes it's dismissed with prejudice which means they lose the ability to refile charges because they violated the law or the constitutional rights of defendants. Imagine this happens in a case with someone who is truly innocent. Imagine it is you being tried in this court and they truly belive you are guilty. Do you believe the process would be fair to you? Would you get a fair trial? That is the issue here. Hopefully they can retry the case but there is a chance the next judge or the upper courts will see this as a fatal error in the case and they could walk because of it.
@@SpydersByte What crimes ? I've followed this case daily for 2yrs there has not been 1 piece of physical evidence of a crime in this case this case is built off speculation hearsay and lyrics non of which prove anything regardless of ur thoughts or opinion
@@SpydersByte judge was an idiot = Judge was corrupt. I agree though mistrial is the appropriate remedy not dismissing the charges with prejudice. Although I'm not sure what the law says because I thought that once the trial started jeopardy attached & you couldn't just retry. But that might be only if the DA was the cause of the mistrial where in this case it's the Judge.
I really can't understand this judges state of mind. Did he think this was going to pass by quietly with out consequence? He knows it was all live streamed. I wonder what he does when the public isn't watching. It is scary that this is his "public persona"
He's probably done this many times before and is emboldened by the fact that he faced no repercussion. The attention this case received blew up in his face.
I am a member of the State Bar of Georgia and am appalled by what is occurring in this case. In my nearly 40 years of trial practice, I have been blessed never to have had to appear before such an obtuse jurist whose efforts to obfuscate facts are so blatant. For the most part, the other state where I practice has superior (no pun intended) judges who take pride in their work and to whom wearing the robe means something. This judge gives me "man-baby" vibes.
I learned that Ms. Bumpus was a stand in lawyer that day. Doing a favor for the actual lawyer. Poor Ms .Bumpus all caught up in this for standing in for her lawyer friend. Also, Tae was killed over the weekend
@@Tsanamii Tae is one of the guys in the pics that woody identified. It's hard to say if Tae and woody were friends cuz one time woody was identifying tae as a shooter and over the weekend woody referring to Tae as his friend. I don't know the details of the killing however I do know it's Tae that was killed and people thought it was woody at first but it was Tae killed over the weekend. Check out "lead attorney" this is who I was watching when I heard it. It was his Monday show. This guy has done every day of this trial.
@@88jeebs I know that. But he knew that they were dicking him around from even before the meeting. That's what I meant. That transcript is sketchy conversations in cars conversations without atty present etc.
This is absolutely horrible on the states part. Im very curious if there will be any repercussions for the state?? The part that the judge really did wrong imo was allowing this and then covering it up the way he did. Also, hey there Papa Tragos. Thank you to you and Peter for covering this. ❤
I would have done the same thing if that is indeed how the information got disseminated. "Hey Mr. Defense Lawyer, while I was on vacation and had a stand in lawyer representing my client, a sworn witness in your case, the judge and prosecutors had a coercive exparte meeting with him and I bet they didn't tell you about it. Thoughts?" Would have been the easiest email I'd ever sent.
Papa T - we appreciate you!! Thank you for the time & effort you’ve invested to review various issues with this case, and for sharing your knowledge and expertise with us. I always look forward to you joining Peter on his videos - and I know many others do, as well. Thank you, again, and have a wonderful time in NC! 🙏💙🙏
Ms Love: "It doesn't matter what was said" By a prosecutor. To a witness. Without his lawyer present. To coerce testimony. Which directly impacts the lawyer's ability to represent his client.
I truly appreciate how you guys get straight to the point and called out all BS. No sugarcoating, no tap dancing. Right is right and wrong is wrong. I thoroughly enjoyed this video and y'all's POV. Thank you!
they thrusted this immunity on him. He didnt want it! He told them over and over! they forced him to testify and intimidated him with jail until "ALL" still awaiting trial were concluded!! Hyland verbally said to him more or less that she would turn a deaf ear if he lied on the stand making it as an "inconsistent statement" but the immunity says he forfeits the immunity if he commits perjury on the stand!! Even better, he never mentioned killing Knut that he "supposedly" to have said. oh the corruption and coercion!!! recusal and mistrial is the only honest thing to happen and disciplinary action against glanville and the state attorneys.
As someone with hearing/processing disorder (ADHD/autism) the way they railroaded and coerced someone who was obviously confused and has his own standards of coping mechanisms and safety concerns is sickening and disturbing
@@angeleyes3386 actually I’m dismayed with the unethical behavior of the prosecutor(s) and judges. They’re violating a person with disabilities/disadvantages rights and privileges. I actually believe him that he’s a habitual and pathological liar. Weirdly because I have ADHD/autism I can absolutely accept that he’ll use any means at his disposal and learned behaviors as coping and survival mechanisms it happens in all classes of people. It’s the power play on the people who know betters’ part against a disadvantaged individual who is clearly misunderstanding several aspects the situation and they’re acting like he/his side are the ones in the wrong.
1:13:59 I’m starting to believe they knew he was going to plead the fifth so they gave them an immunity anyways without him even saying yes to it. The state felt free obligated and comfortable, giving away immunity. How many times have they done this before and the courts have just ran with it probably very very many. The whole state needs to be investigated.
This all sounds like another Canton/Bev cover up but I don't buy this one working with forcing attorney to go to jail! Now trying to protect self, after the fact.
If you read certain things it looks like the transcript was gone over with a fine toothcomb. The sentence structure doesn't make sense... have each person read this... it's a choppy convo & humans don't talk like this.
This Judge didn’t give any of these examples of why he didn’t have to do anything. I think he’s only come up with these as excuses later. He didn’t Confirm the ex partse meeting at all! He refused to release the transcript on 6/10/2024
I believe Brian steel and weinstein adams and schardt should request the audio recordings if you notice alot of Copeland responses there's a bunch of ---- and it isn't because 2 many ppl are talking 🤔
13:45 😤Like so much else JG & ADAs say in this case (until pressured to own up): JG’s account here doesn’t add up. He claims 10:17am-11:28am private mtg bt Copeland & Bumpus (NO WAY i believe that happened - 1.15 hrs just them? no interruptions? no interjections? No one else there?) & Then just 3 little min afterwards to wrap up entire mtg, & Copeland suddenly testifies? IMO, JG & ADAs still aren’t entirely truthful about any of this
to be fair I think Glanville should have said on the record "in total" Bumpus and Woody had private conversations for an hour (since the transcript noted the times) but the way he said it on record was that bumpus and woody had an hour long conversation which means something completely different. But did all those "off the record" times total an hour? i didnt add it up.
@@lilkoutsi idts - judge specifically states that he & everyone left the room & those 2 had a private mtg from 10:17am-11:28am; group mtg resumed 11:28am, finished @11:31am. Transcript shows something totally different. Surely judge knows a lot of ppl won’t read source material & rely on his recap…& so the saga continues…
I’m not a lawyer but also not an idiot and what the judge stated to back up his ruling was not the same thing. Also, if all of this was detailed as he says, then he had no reason to throw the tantrum when he got called out. He made his bed…….he needs to take off the robe and let someone who is competent take over this case. And what about the contempt charge so Steele?! Waste of time and money. Maybe he needs a refresher on these things. People are over the 10 month prep phase to just get the jury , step aside ma’am, prosecutors. The defense attorneys seem to be the only ones remembering what they are supposed to be doing. This is a mell of a hess😮.😅
If you actually read the "immunity deal" it only protects him from things he says. But they can still prosecute him if they find other evidence of the crime he admitted it. It doesn't actually protect him from anything. Only from them using his own testimony.
@@gcwmn1961 I could be wrong so please don’t get upset with me 😊I don’t think the original post was implying what you think. I took the post to be just about the DAs office. But maybe I am way out in left field here.
Supposedly they did if you read the transcript. The fact they are willing to give him immunity for murder in exchange of him telling the jury Young Thug ordered it is insane considering he repeatedly told the prosecution he lied about Young Thug because he knew that's what they wanted to hear and it would keep him out of jail. . . It's pure insanity. Positions of power need to stop being filled with narcissistic egomaniacs. Because that's really what this trial is. People like them who seek positions of power are jealous, envy ridden, and resentful demons. They can't be wrong and can't stand seeing other people successful that don't play the game the same way they do.
1:11:45 I’ve listened to this read out several times and it sounds corrupt and backwards. I’m not sure how this case is still happening. What about all the things that happened before this that we don’t know about? But the court does.
I remember hearing that the court reporter might not have been there for the entire duration. If so, could that mean some of that meeting was NOT recorded?
There are allegations that the police officers were wearing tactical gear and had semi automatic weapons when Mr Copeland exited the elevator, and that the transcript has been altered, that at times the court reporter was told to stop, and that there is a whistleblower.
They have pulling this shady stuff for a long long long time, it’s only now it’s coming to light! They are way to comfortable doing this! So happy your channels and others are calling out the hypocrisy of the DA and the judge! Now every case that’s been before this judge and with the DA needs to be looked into!
I dont know which case makes me more mad, this one with this beyond corrupt judge or Sarah Boone and her nonsensical letters to the judge. Its definitely a toss up😡🤬😡🤬
They had all of those people in the ex parte hearing but they’re so worried about who leaked it. Make it make sense. So everyone else could hear EXCEPT the defense?
Meanwhile these defendants are confined with no bond pretty much waiting for the mistrial or appeals court later to reverse any conviction if there is one , electronic leg monitor and allow them a bond being confined this long and still not a bond seems like an injustice as well
